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Is the Space Goofs article breaking the MOS:GENDERID rule?

It's about time I let you know about this. So Candy (a character from the show) is referred to with male pronouns on Wikipedia. I watched a gameplay video of the video game Stupid invaders (which is based on the show), and in the game Candy mentions that they are transgender and wants to get sex reassignment surgery. In France male pronouns are gender neutral, and since the show was made in France I didn't question it, but the English dub still refers to Candy an effeminate male. So is this breaking a "law" on Wikipedia or am I just TOO obsessed with the topic in question? Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk) 16:24, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Atlantic Ranter 9705! Sorry for the delay getting back to you here! Life's been busy for me and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my messages and Wikipedia emails :-). It sounds like there are a few issues here (assuming the information is accurate and true): One issue is that the article is describing the character with the assumption that the reader is not from Latin America by using the word "he" by default. This also becomes apparent when the description states that the character "gets in touch with his feminine side by sometimes disguising himself as a woman" - in the Latin American version of the show, it may be viewed that the female character "gets in touch with her masculine side...". Another (possibly bigger and more concerning) issue is that none of this information (the dressing as the other gender, the information stating that the Latin American version of the show portrays the character as a female, or the information that you described in your message here) is referenced by any sources at all... in fact, I was tempted to resolve these issues by removing all of that content (I added "citation needed" notices instead, though I'm questioning whether or not that was the right choice to make). Regardless, I went ahead and edited the description for you and fixed what I felt were issues that needed to be improved. You can view the exact changes I made by clicking here. I think that (minus the addition of references and any additional relevant information) the changes made resolve these problems and that the description is much improved. What do you think? Do you still have concerns? Let me know and I'll be happy to discuss it with you further if you do. Thanks again for the message, I apologize again for the delayed response, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:07, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Atlantic Ranter 9705 - Also, I read through MOS:GENDERID, and I feel that this guideline isn't intended for this exact situation (where multiple versions of the same cartoon are produced in order to portray the same character as having a different gender depending on the country it's broadcast in). This style guideline appears to be intended for people or characters who are portrayed, represented, identified, or exist in one form (meaning that multiple versions of that person's existence aren't floating around - there is only one Najat Vallaud-Belkacem, Bill Gates, or Daffy Duck). The guideline states that, when there is a question of the person's gender in relevant situations (such as the articles of Chelsea Manning or Caitlyn Jenner for example), the article is to be worded to refer to that person, by default, according to the gender that they most recently announced or stated that they identify themselves as or that they've assigned to themselves. For example: if 100 reliable sources say that someone announced that they identify as a female, but one (or a few) reliable sources covering the person's latest or most recent statement(s) on the subject state that the person identifies as male, we are to word the article using the male gender identity of that person (including the assigned name that they go by). Hopefully my explanation of this guideline helps to clear up any confusion. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:56, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! [the link to a gameplay video that has the "Transgender info" in the very first cutscene AKA. A source], also my source is a cutscene from a game that's supposed to take place after the events of the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Atlantic Ranter 9705! I would make sure that the sources you found meet the criteria outlined here. If it doesn't, we really can't use it to assert that the information being added is 100% verifiable, accurate, and true... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:59, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I read the criteria/rule and you can use online videos as a source/references/link at the end of the article, the only thing I'm curious about right now is whether or not Wikipedia writes about fictional medias in a "canon" point of view, or in a "realistic" sort of way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk • contribs) 22:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Atlantic Ranter 9705 - Good question... I'm not 100% sure what either "point of view" you describe refers to, honestly. The viewpoint that all article content must reflect is a neutral point of view above all else, so keep this policy in mind when asking or making a decision, or when you go to make updates or changes to the article. If you're still not sure, you might find the answer to your question by asking at the Wikipedia helpdesk. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:15, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Example; the Wikipedia page for the movie Heavy Traffic, it uses the word “transvestite” to describe one of the characters. Another example; Any page on Wikipedia that refers to a female fictional characters as a Nimphomaniac. Those terms could be seen as offensive or inaccurate to some people (including me, which also is the reason people think that I’m “vandalizing the site”). The only reason why I asked to edit the page in the first place, was because the foreign (French and Brazilian) articles mention that Candy is “transgender” in the video game Stupid invaders which takes place after the events of the show, making it canon (well to me at least). I do think that maybe YOUR “edit” was “not very good” to say the least. PS: I was not trying to vandalize Wikipedia, and I have good intentions! (That’s why I changed my name too!). PPS: I wasn’t concerned how Candy was described in “the world of the show” if that makes sense, I just wanted to know if you’d count Stupid invaders and Space Goofs in the same universe (because if you watched the cutscene then you’d might understand) (5:16) UTC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Atlantic Ranter 9705 - Again, I'm honestly not sure what terms should be used nor am I sure of the best way to express the content given this specific situation. We're talking about an animated cartoon and then adding issues of gender into the mix - something I'll admit that I have no experience with :-). You might find better luck by asking on the article's talk page in a new discussion, or possibly by asking your question at the help desk. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:10, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Oshwah! I believe that the video link that I sent you COULD be used as a reference, as the “rule” does not seem to exclude YouTube videos. To be honest I think that your edit should be reverted by me! [FRENCH version of the Space Goofs Wikipedia article] does IN FACT read the info that I keep repeating, and most of all, I have found my answer before you can even respond to dis! PS. I created [female version of Daffy Duck on my Tumblr account], So yeah! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Atlantic Ranter 9705 - That's your call and that's entirely up to you. I was only trying to help improve the article section and help answer your questions. I have no vested interest or involvement with the article or the topic areas at all. Do what you feel is correct. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:12, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New photo

I wanted to add a new photo on Briand's article, but it doesn't appear. There is a short text which says 220px, but I'm trying to make the downloaded photo appear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zwnisfromgreece (talk • contribs) 1 August 2018 21:27 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Zwnisfromgreece: You appear to be trying to use an external image: you can only use images which have been uploaded to Wiki Commons or to Wikipedia. Note you cannot use images where you are not the copyright holder or you do not have permission to use the image from the copyright holder (for which you will need to provide evidence). Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 22:04, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Zwnisfromgreece, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions and request for assistance. I'll be more than happy to help point you in the correct direction. The response provided by Eagleash above is correct - external URLs of images do not render on Wikipedia. All images must be uploaded to the website and then linked from the File page on Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Commons in order for them to render exactly like all the other images you see. However, before you perform any kind of upload or use of this image on Wikipedia, you must locate the copyright and licensing information from the photo and the website from which it's located at, and make sure that you read and fully understand Wikipedia's image use policies (specifically, this section of the policy regarding copyright), as well as Wikipedia's policies on copyrights. Any kind of violation of copyright policy is taken very seriously on Wikipedia because it puts the article content as well as the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikipedia website at risk, so please use extreme caution and put fourth a level of upmost diligence to make sure that everything in the area of licensing and copyrights are followed. Make sure that you locate the copyright and licensing information for this image, that the copyright and licensing of this photo is compatible with the upload and use of this image on Wikipedia (if it's not compatible or the findings show that use of the image is disallowed, then you cannot proceed with uploading or using the image here), and correctly tagged and labeled on the file page after the upload is completed and before it's linked to the article. I admit that I'm not an expert when it comes to copyrights and licensing; I only know basic information. However, if you have any more questions about this, please do not hesitate to let me know or (recommended) ask for help by visiting this page dedicated to media copyright questions or look for your question at this FAQ page. Either way, myself or another editor will be more than happy to help you. Good luck and happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:21, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ANI notification

Hey

This is not about you, but you probably would like to be notified about this topic too: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Lepidoptera~plwiki ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:56, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ToBeFree - Hey man, how are things? Thanks for the message and for the notification. I'll go by and take a look :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:14, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you :D I just handed in my BSc EE thesis -- this feels awesome. I'm now taking some time for gaming and reading, but will also have much time for Huggle again in the next weeks. You're fine too? Cya on HAN/IRC :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
ToBeFree - Awesome, and congratulations on getting your thesis completed. I remember that exact feeling too back when I was in college... when you get that ridiculously challenging and huge project done and the moment when you hand it in and say to your self, "It's finished... It's done..." and can strike it completely off of your list of things to get done... that intense wave and feeling of relief and that figurative weight coming off your shoulder is one that I'll never forget. I'm doing well, thank you! Just been busy with real life stuff, but that's life and that's how it works... Oh well. And of course - I'm on IRC 24/7 and usually active, so I'll surely see you there soon ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage

Since you are a Software engineer can you help me design my new userpage? I do not want to use the userpage maker.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If would be much better for you and very much in your best interest to learn how to to use tables, styles, fonts, colors, pictures, infoboxes, and other tools in order to customize your user page. Else you'll robbing yourself of the opportunity to learn about these tools and styles and how to create and use them... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, software engineers are not necessarily designers. They can help you with technical issues but probably not designs. (although I think Oshwah is a talented designer. Great templates and user page ) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 15:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
HA, thank you :-). I also think that the opportunity to experience the satisfaction of designing your user page (as well as the learning that you'd get from doing do) are also things that you'd rob yourself blind of by having someone else just do it for you... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:38, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You have only one life. Why not experience it yourself? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 15:40, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alright...

Just because I'm curious, who is the zebra vandal? Home Lander (talk) 02:20, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Home Lander - I'm not sure, but their user creation log is very close to a bunch of other LTA creations that I just handled. As soon as I saw the username "Fapstronaut" created, I established these accounts with the rest of them and blocked them both. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, figured the weird one would probably be something more. Never mind! Home Lander (talk) 02:23, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
They use all sorts of different tricks to get through the automated and human filters and screenings... I'm not perfect and never will be perfect, but I always try and do my damn best and with this project's best interest in mind ;-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Potato pancake

Hello.. I´m very busy and don´t learn wikiedit.. I´m sorry & mea culpa. I´m a Czech and I say that bramborák is pancake like a Ashkenazim´s latke. Bramborák is fried on the pane with some lard or oil.. no deep frying! And Czech garlic is toxic ingredient.  :-) Please, edit this article, if you want it.. best regards, Sigimer. 46.183.64.9 (talk) 08:38, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Thanks for the message and for the explanation. No worries; just understand that edits like the one you made here will typically be interpreted as being nonconstructive by others who review it. Though you seem to have meant well with your edit, we also have policies regarding the requirement to word articles to reflect a neutral point of view. Opinions and personal preferences must remain completely out of article text and cannot be used. If you're interested in furthering your learning, knowledge, and experience as a Wikipedia editor and a member of the community, I recommend that you consider creating an account for yourself and use it to not only go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial, but use it to edit and improve the project. There are many advantages to creating and using an account which include the ability to create new articles and pages, request and be evaluated for being granted additional user rights and access levels (which you use to further your involvement with improving the project and hence your overall knowledge and experience), and much more. Give it some thought, and please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions. I'll be more than happy to help you if you do. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:43, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Never ending childish vandalism

Hello. Would you mind protecting Vellore Institute of Technology? I don't know if it's a bunch of kids who weren't accepted who are doing it, or other people, but this article plus a few other articles about Indian institutes of technology are being repeatedly hit by large numbers of IPs... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 12:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas.W -  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:24, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request - Aishwarya Dutta's Wikipedia page

She also acted in a bengali movie called Bouma in 2009. Can you please add this information to that page?Jasheema (talk) 14:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jasheema! You need to make an official edit request by following the instructions on this page. This will allow it to be visible to multiple editors, who can review your request and help make the changes assuming no issues are found. If you have any more questions or need anything else, please let me know and I'll be happy to help. Cheers :-) - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:53, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
thanks for your response. I tried to make a edit request. After clicking publish it asked for me to enter a captcha. I entered the captcha and again clicked publish but again its asking me to enter the captcha. How to know that my edit request is active?
(edit conflict × 2) Check your contributions to see if you made an edit to that talk page. Maybe you should wait and edit other stuff until your account is autoconfirmed to avoid the annoying captcha. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 16:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
thanks. I have checked my contributions, but there's nothing about my edit request on that page. As well as may I know how long will it take to autoconfirm my account? If my account gets autoconfirmed, then will I able to make an edit request without asking for captcha?
It takes four days and ten edits to become autoconfirmed (and 30 days and 500 edits to become extended confirmed, just FYI). Yes, you can submit edit requests you want on 30/500 protected pages (but NOT for semi-protected pages since you are already autoconfirmed). ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 17:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I have made an edit request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasheema (talk • contribs) 19:17, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No problem; always happy to help :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:41, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Carroll Maingay

Hi @Oshwah:, you recently deleted the newly published page for Alexander Carroll Maingay. This was created at an afternoon editathon at the University of Edinburgh by one of my colleagues at the Library & University Collections team User:Sscarles. Could you let me know what the issue was with the deleted page and whether we can get the article back into Draft space to work on it further as we do not want to lose an entire day's work and for User:Sscarles to have had a bad first experience of Wikipedia editing as we are keen to encourage more library colleagues to contribute knowledge to Wikipedia.--Stinglehammer (talk) 14:41, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Stinglehammer, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. The article was deleted because the creator blanked the entire page, and I thought it was because he didn't want to continue working on the article anymore. If this is not the case, I can restore it no problem - just let me know. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Oshwah, many thanks for looking into this and coming back to me so quickly. If it was blanked then it must have been blanked in error as we definitely want to retain this article and the work that went into it. Could you revert the deletion please? Sscarles (and Gweduni) will be so pleased as he thought all his work was lost. (If it needs any tidying up, I'm happy to work on it). Many thanks, Stinglehammer (talk) 17:24, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Stinglehammer -  Done. Let me know if I can do anything else for you. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:32, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Geraldine Bazan

Could you suppress my IP address for Geraldine Bazan please? Thank you. It begins with 5. 🖍S (talk) 15:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

CrayonS - I've rev del'd the IP information and I'll have it suppressed. Please leave a dummy edit... just like I had you do before :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. <3 🖍S (talk) 15:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No problem :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:48, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
CrayonS - I went ahead and had a soft block applied to the IP address of your network. This will let you edit like usual while logged in under your username, but you won't be able to accidentally edit while logged out anymore. If you see a block notice when you attempt to save an edit, you're not in any kind of trouble... you just need log into your account and you'll be back to business as usual ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. DeltaQuad?! <3 🖍S (talk) 17:37, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Accidents

I live on Conesus Lake where the incident supposedly took place and have no recollection of such a serious sounding accident. So I searched all local sources and found no reporting in any news source anywhere. Combined with the dramatic accounting and terming the waters of Conesus Lake in August as "freezing" (average water temperature that time of year is about 70 degrees f) I believe this entry is an extreme dramatization of the actual incident at best, and maybe did not occur on Conesus Lake at all. My edit was to put the entry into context.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.176.201 (talk) 18:38, 2 August 2018‎

Hi there! Thanks for the message and for explaining your edit to the article. I appreciate that you tried searching for sources and updating the article to reflect what you found (which were none). I wasn't able to find anything either, however it looks like SarekOfVulcan has since resolved the issue that you expressed in your explanation here (thank you, SarekOfVulcan, for doing that!) so everything should be okay now. Next time you have concerns with something like this where content is on an article without any sources cited and where you also cannot locate any sources, it's best to just edit the article, remove the content, and explain in the edit summary that you "removed unreferenced content where you didn't find any sources" (or something similar), and save those changes. If you need to discuss concerns about an article's content or add statements where you feel something isn't correct or has been written to reflect an overstatement or exaggeration (basically, anything written that isn't reflecting a neutral point of view) like you did with this edit, these kinds of statements and discussions belong on the article's talk page. Read through this help page for more information on talk pages, where to find them, and how to use them. Please also let me know if you have any questions or additional concerns, and I'll be more than happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and for explaining what you were attempting to do, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edits needed to Fairfield Ohio page

Hi, Oshwah. I am the Communications Manager for the City of Fairfield, Ohio, and there is a wrong item on the Fairfield, Ohio, city page. It lists Mark Wendling as the City Manager with a (D) after his name. He is not affiliated with any party, and cannot be as a function of his role with the City. We would like his name removed completely since he's not an elected official, please. Jendex1965 (talk) 20:06, 2 August 2018 (UTC) At the very least, he needs the (D) after his name removed, as he is not registered with any political party.[reply]

(talk page stalker) I've removed the uncited political affiliation. I also updated the link to Steve Miller's page, rather than using a two-year-old archive. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:11, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jendex1965, and thanks for leaving me a message with your concerns regarding the Fairfield, Ohio article. It looks like SarekOfVulcan has since edited the article and removed content that was unreferenced or poorly referenced, and hence resolved the issue that you expressed concerns with here. However, I also saw that since he made those changes, you also edited the article and removed Mark Wendling as the listed City Manager from the article's infobox. Why did you remove this information? Since you work for the City as a Communications Manager, please know that it represents a conflict of interest when you edit this article directly. It's a highly discouraged behavior that the community receives poorly when discovered, and usually results in those changes being reverted. Next time you're faced with editing an article you have a personal conflict of interest with, you should create an edit request instead so that other editors can review your proposed changes for issues and then make these changes for you assuming none are found. If you have any more questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and for expressing your concerns here. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Personal image

Can I use your images on the article Selfie.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.148.186.251 (talk) 10:48, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, because it's not a selfie. Natureium (talk) 11:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! While I'm flattered that you would like to use the image on my user page as part of the Selfie article, the image is not a "selfie". For an image to be a "selfie", it has to be one that someone takes of themselves while they are holding the camera :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Other people on my IP

I think there are some other people on my IP address because I didn’t vandalize these Wikipedia pages. I have a home IP and it is usually shared with a few houses.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.78.72 (talk) 21:24, 3 August 2018‎ (UTC)[reply]

(talk page gnome) I am not answering for Oshwah, only helping out. In case it applies, please see WP:BROTHER. But, please create a Wikipedia account and make sure to always logout when done. This would ensure to differentiate your edits from those of others. There are other advantages such as your own talk page (even if your IP address changed), a watchlist, potential user rights that you may eventually need, etc. —PaleoNeonate – 22:42, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I don't think WP:BROTHER applies here since last edit by the IP (before this one) was more than a year ago. I'm almost certain it's a dynamic IP, and the user only saw those stale warnings after getting assigned their current IP address. So, to answer the IP question - nothing to worry about, but PaleoNeonate is correct - you should create an account if you don't want to receive messages intended for other unregistered users (among other benefits). It's free, of course, and only takes a minute. =) byteflush Talk 00:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As (somewhat) stated above (lol), you need to create an account and use it to edit Wikipedia in order to avoid any future warning and messages that involve edits that you did not make. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:06, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again,

Is this some sort of legal threat? Should I inform Jimbo Wales about this? Thanks. Adam9007 (talk) 00:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Adam9007: The following letter has been sent to the Wikipedia Founder. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 07:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
legal@ has already been informed. Thank you for bringing this to our attention though Adam9007 . --TheSandDoctor Talk 08:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. I was thinking of something else. --TheSandDoctor Talk 17:03, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Hi Adam9007! Thanks for the message and for bringing the edit, your question, and your concerns to my attention. I just read the entire text from the diff you provided. While I definitely see how one would become concerned in relation to NLT from this edit, and while the edit certainly outlines concerns with the article, its content, how the editor feels that that the content negatively impacts them and should be edited to remove such content, and uses terms such as "defamatory" multiple times - I do not see a threat of legal action in the diff you provided. The conclusion of the edit states, "I and my lawyer are happy to work with your administration to provide written evidence of the facts to ensure legislative protections are in place for all parties", which could be interpreted be having a "chilling effect", but I personally don't see enough of one to justify that NLT applies to this edit and that administrative action (such as blocking) is required - not without messaging them to notify them of NLT, asking them to clarify their intent, and giving them a chance to respond first. If we want to truly resolve the situation, we should offer to help them or point them to the appropriate contact page so that they can receive assistance regarding their particular concerns. If it were me, I would leave a message on the editor's user talk page, tell them that you saw the edit provided here (give a URL to the diff), state and reiterate that they are correct in that we care about the accuracy and neutrality of the content in all of our articles (especially with BLPs) and that we exert our upmost diligence to keep articles in compliance with policy (link them to the policy and guideline pages I listed), and offer to help take a look at the article and do what you can to help. Informally let them know at the end about the NLT policy (again, link them to it) and also link them to the contact page and tell them to contact Wikipedia using this method if they still have concerns. Let me know if this is something you want to take on and help them out with, or if this is not something you plan on assisting them with and/or you don't want to be involved with, and I'll be happy to help them directly instead. Either way, someone should at least try and help them ;-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:16, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm writing the message I described above on the editor's user talk page now. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:29, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. You can read it here. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
leave a message on the editor's user talk page, tell them that you saw the edit provided here (give a URL to the diff), state and reiterate that they are correct in that we care about the accuracy and neutrality of the content in all of our articles (especially with BLPs) and that we exert our upmost diligence to keep articles in compliance with policy (link them to the policy and guideline pages I listed), and offer to help take a look at the article and do what you can to help. Informally let them know at the end about the NLT policy (again, link them to it) and also link them to the contact page and tell them to contact Wikipedia using this method if they still have concerns That's not the sort of thing I'm good at . In fact, that is the sort of thing I'm not good at . Adam9007 (talk) 03:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Adam9007 - Hey, you can't improve if you don't try, right? ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Melbourne Victory FC redux

Hi Oshwah, GiofanniRahman just added the same unsourced content at Melbourne Victory FC that lead to the page protection and from the look of their talk page they have a long history of similar disruptive/unsourced editing, any chance you could take a look? Thinking a short block might be appropriate? ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  10:13, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CJinoz! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your request and your concerns. I definitely agree that this user has had issues with this in the past and has been warned numerous times for adding unreferenced content to articles. I've blocked the user for 72 hours due to the edit that (s)he made to Melbourne Victory FC. It would be a good idea to go through this user's latest contributions and make sure that their other changes aren't aren't unreferenced as well - I see a lot of edits that this user recently made that are the target articles' latest revision. Are you able to do this? Let me know, and thanks again for letting me know about the issue :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Apologize

I had changed motto of Marathwada Institute Of Technology Motto. I apologize that it was done by mistake. Dhananjaykale1997 (talk) 16:50, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dhananjaykale1997! No worries; thanks for the message and for letting me know. Happy editing - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:53, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Could you take a look at this article?

Hi! Would you mind taking a look at [REDACTED - Oshwah]? I've just made some edits to remove BLP violations, but I think revdel may be appropriate. It should be clear which information I'm concerned about, but if there's any doubt, please drop me an email and I'll elaborate off-wiki. Marianna251TALK 19:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just noticed you redacted the link to the article - apologies if I should have emailed you straight away instead of leaving this message. Marianna251TALK 19:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Marianna251! No problem; it happens all the time. Emailing these requests is preferred as we want to do our best to generate as little attention to the edits in question as possible, and adding requests here will trigger a Streisand effect-like response ;-). Thanks for your diligence and for letting me know about the content in question. Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can do anything else for you and I'll be more than happy to help. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:49, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help! I'll email anything I come across in future. Marianna251TALK 19:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Marianna251 - No problem; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:52, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

Hello, Oshwah. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

- BilCat (talk) 20:00, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BilCat - Just received it, and I'm looking at it now... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 20:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat - No problem. Just replied; check your inbox :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The user still doesn't appear to get it, and has removed the other user's IP address from its signature on my talk page. I've restored it with a note not to do it again. A follow-up on his talk page might be needed. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 07:18, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat - I just left the user a message asking him to stop removing the IP information from your user talk page, and I explain directly that the IP doesn't belong to him. Let me know what happens and if this helped or not... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:23, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

deleted Ofelia Garcia

Why did this get deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanhastic262 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Khanhastic262 - Was this content you added to your userpage about you? Or someone else? It looked to me like the information was intended to describe yourself. Let me know. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I want to create a wiki page for Ofelia Garcia.. how do I do that.. Thanks, Khanh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanhastic262 (talk • contribs) 21:08, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See also: Ofelia Garcia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Khanhastic262. It looks like the article on this person already exists - see Ofelia Garcia. Since an article exists on this subject, I went ahead and restored your user page and the content you added to it. Feel free to use the information you added to your user page and merge it with the content at Ofelia Garcia in order to make one page. Please let me know if you need anything else. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No they are two separate people.. One is an artist... that is already exists the other which is a scholar ( I create) this.. hence the title Ofelia Garicía (professor) and scholar... that is the reason why I created this.. two different people... Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanhastic262 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Khanhastic262 - Ah, okay I see. You're welcome; thanks for the messages and I wish you happy editing and the best of luck with the article creation :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:25, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

iDubbbz real name

https://i.4pcdn.org/tv/1487390980871.jpg

His real last name is Washburn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.251.161.176 (talk) 20:59, 4 August 2018‎

That link you provided means nothing as far as a reliable source is concerned. Please take some time and review Wikipedia's guideline page on identifying reliable sources, as these are the sources we need to locate and use in order to verify content within articles - especially if they're biographies of living people. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]


It hasnt appeared on wiki yet. Do i have to start the whole process over? Thanks.

Blocked Mamamoo page.

May I ask why its now blocked when we have been asking for a fair removal of an information? Iy was unfairly written by someone who just wanted to attack.

If that information stays there, then the controversies should be added in any other page. Thanks. Viratvio (talk) 21:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Viratvio - The article was protected due to the persistent disruptive editing behaviors that started to occur. I'm aware that there was an effort made outside of Wikipedia (somewhere on social networking) to recruit people to come here and update the article to remove the information. This behavior is known as meat puppetry, which is against policy and not allowed on Wikipedia. Instead of attempting to recruit like-minded individuals to force a change to a page using disruptive behavior, those users are expected to resolve their disputes properly and discuss the matter on the article's talk page and come to a consensus regarding the proper action to take. If users are recruited to run onto the talk page and make edits there, this also counts as meat puppetry and is disallowed just the same. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:39, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

COI/POV edits on politician page

Hi! See this diff. The mass removal seems to indicate POV/COI issues. I already posted a notice on user's talk page. I didn't take to ANI or AIV yet, but I wanted advice on how best to proceed. Also, feel free to ping user. I don't want user to think I'm talking behind his/her back. Just trying to figure out how best to proceed in cases like this. Thank you for your work! --Policy Reformer(c) 21:22, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi PolicyReformer! It's good to talk to you again. I hope your weekend is going well so far. Thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns and request for advice on how to proceed from here. I took a look at the article's edit history, and I see that multiple users have reverted Krieg13's changes to Mimi Walters only for Krieg13 to revert the article back. I've left a warning on Krieg13's user talk page regarding edit warring and 3RR. If you haven't created a talk page discussion over this issue and pinged Krieg13 to join in on the discussion, I recommend that you do so. Make sure that you avoid breaching 3RR and violating Wikipedia's policy on edit warring (refer to the two links I provided for details); it's easy to get sucked in and it's not something you want to do :-). Now that the user has been warned, they're expected to stop this behavior and discuss the matter on the article's talk page. If the user continues to revert the article back to their preferred version after someone else undoes the changes, report the user to AN3 or let me know. If you need anything else, you know where to find me ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:21, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, for the follow-up and suggestions. I'm going to post a longer follow-up the article's talk page. Will ping both you and user there. Thank you so much! --Policy Reformer(c) 22:29, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
PolicyReformer - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:30, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Radio station accounts

Not sure, but the accounts you've been blocking because they have radio stations as their account name might be one of these; it seems familiar. Home Lander (talk) 23:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Home Lander - I think you're right. I do remember dealing with a huge issue with the creation of many radio station usernames and I think I remember being told or shown an LTA page... it was awhile ago though. My usual process (if it's just one or maybe a couple) is to soft block the account as promotional / representing a company. However, if they start to pick up, I just hard block one so that the IP gets autoblocked and if I remember correctly, that usually took care of it... thanks for the message; I'll see what I can't figure out... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of women executed in the United States since 1976

Hello! I noticed that you have semi-protected List of women executed in the United States since 1976. While I have indeed reverted the false information added by two users, it looks like the unsourced change of information goes way back. Beginning from December 2017, several apparently distinct users, both IP and non-IP, have made multiple edits in a row changing information, arbitrarily changing execution methods and the ages of the executed women and adding a citation to the apparently non-existent source harrisprosecutor.org. I have reverted to before the suspicious long chains of edits. Should there be an SPI? --Leugen9001 (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Leugen9001. There certainly is no harm in creating an SPI if you have legitimate belief and legitimate evidence and proof that sock puppetry is occurring. However, depending on the evidence submitted, how recent the users have edited, and other information - the options to pursue might be limited. Just remember that the purpose of an SPI is to document evidence in order to assert that two or more accounts are being controlled by the same person. While you can certainly add anonymous IP users to the report in order to help with proving the case, creating an SPI to only report IP users isn't the normal workflow (unless in very significant or extraordinary circumstances). If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:10, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral point of view

The passage I restored had been there for months, but was taken out for unexplained reasons. I wasn't even the one who put it there in the first place.

Now I'd like you to explain why my restoration of that passage was "non-neutral" and how you caught wind of it mere seconds later.2601:84:4502:61EA:456F:E528:DD7:CF11 (talk) 02:33, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I believe the content was removed because the text seemed to be an opinion or an analysis. All content on Wikipedia articles must reflect a neutral point-of-view and I don't believe that this text is in compliance with this policy and should be left removed. Hence, I removed the content from the article. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

POV warriors at Caucher Birkar

Hi Oshwah, hope you're ok. I have a question about page protection. There is an ongoing edit war at Caucher Birkar with some users (mostly IP/new accounts) trying to add "Kurdish" in the nationality of this mathematician. I asked for page protection : [1] but my demand was removed by an admin saying "rm dupe". I must confess that this is quite disconcerting, i asked for clarification to the said admin but no answer. Would you be so kind as to give me a reason that would have motivated the administrator to refuse my request? Thank you in advance. Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) 02:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikaviani. Your request was removed simply because someone else submitted a protection request for the same article before you did; the admin was just removing one of the two requests to eliminate confusion. I just reviewed and applied semi-protection to the article, so all should be set for now. If more problems arise with the article, file a report at the proper location or let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:52, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much ! Take care. cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) 02:56, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wikaviani - No problem; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:58, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, i know that mate, this is why i come here when i can't find an answer to my questions. And this is also why i would strongly support you if one day you consider applying to become a bureaucrat. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 03:05, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wikaviani - Hahaha... Bureaucrat, huh? Haven't even given that a thought. Maybe someday (years down the line) if the need becomes present I may consider it, but it's definitely not on my "priority radar" right now ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:08, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, Of course, this is your call, but still believe that you would be a great bureaucrat with a great ... haircut ! :-))Wikaviani (talk) 03:17, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editing

Hello. Thank you for the input. However I have been receiving multiple messages and warnings for editing that I have not done but Wikipedia is attributing to me. I believe I have been hacked and am thus deleting my account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.185.39 (talk) 03:11, 5 August 2018‎

If you're receiving warnings for edits that you're not making on Wikipedia, the solution is actually to create and use an account :-). By doing so, you'll only receive messages for the edits you make. If you want more information on the advantages of using an account, you can click here to review the help page. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:14, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

124.104.239.158

124.104.239.158 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

User:My Royal Young is back. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:98CA:B38A:37D4:F038 (talk) 06:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

...and he'll need his talkpage access disabled too. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:98CA:B38A:37D4:F038 (talk) 06:27, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Way ahead of you ;-)...  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:28, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of Nationality

This is ONE of the definitions of "nationality" in a Merriam Webster: "people having a common origin, tradition, and language and capable of forming or actually constituting a nation-state". Please pay attention to the usage of "CAPABLE" in the definition. Kurdish is nationality, similar to Arab, Turkish or Persian.

What is the reason that you force the concept of nationality in the case of Caucher Birkar??

What is the reason that Persian agents are allowed that to edit the Cauchar Birkar Wiki page but Kurdish cannot?

What is the reason that whatever definition that you give MUST be correct??

Why the freedom of choosing a nationality by a human being is ignored. In the case of Cauchar Birkar he devoted his award to "Kurdish Nation", the few people in the Wikipedia force it to what they want?? Why these few people act like the Iranian Gov.

Last the Iranian Gov. TV presented an interview with Cauchar Birkar's father while he was speaking in Kurdish and congratulating to the Kurdish Nation the subtitle in Persian added IRANIAN!! This is fraud. Why the same mindset is forced by few Persian agents here and unfortunately you support the same idea???

Even the English definition of NATION doesn't require PASSPORT, STATE or .... 40 million people are Nation, similar to Arabs, Turks, Persian and ....

IP

IP Conversation is going round and round and nothing is been done. I'm NOT causing disruption, I just want something removing from a page that I feel relates to me and was related to another . I did NOT introduce the IPs to Bills page. The current actions only reinforce my opinion that Wikipedia appears to be a closed club with complex rules to stop others freely joining in and contributing . The sharing and distribution of information appears to be of secondary importance to a set of rather complex rules on enforcment . I have in good faith tried to contribute something that unfortunate does not meet the standards of another and they have removed it. When the situation is reversed that person calls it disruptive. I reiterate that I am NOT disruptive or wish to cause any vandalism or offense. I think we have all wasted enough time on this . Either you will do the right thing and remove want I have requested or you wont.

Matchkick - I have no idea of what you're talking about outside of what I was asked to talk to you about (which was your edits removing IP signatures from BilCat's user talk pate)... whatever dispute or issue you have over article content and wherever it may be is between you and and BilCat. Instead of distracting yourself over issues that are irrelevant to the article content itself, you need to work with BilCat (and any other involved editors) on the article's talk page, and resolve your disputes properly. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bill doesn't appear to want to work things through that's why he (not I) got you involved and others regarding IPs. I feel there is no point in dealing with him, he's made up his mind and he really hasn't offered me anything constructive in the way of help as to how I could improve my chances of not falling foul of editorial decisions. I really don't care anymore if the article he edits includes my contribution or not. I know my comments to be a fact and wished to share these with others ( whilst folks may not like the verification that I have offered, nether the less it IS and will always remain a FACT based in truth). NO amount or editing or re-editing of a page will ever EVER change any fact. If others don't want to listen or accept something and perhaps share in the joy of learning another snippet of knowledge , then fine, it's not my loss. What I don't like is the culture of Wikipedia where no addition appears to be easy to make without crossing a quagmire of rules . I'm sorry but this is not an irrelevance that new comers feel alienated and not welcomed. It is a problem that you should not dismiss and of hand .

Lambton Arena and Minor Sports in Lambton

Hi,

I want to add that there is a hockey arena in Warren Park/ Lambton named Lambton Arena. At this rink are 2 minor hockey (5-21 yrs old) not for profit, coommunity based house leagues and "rep" organizations - Warren Park and Toronto Eagles.

The Warren Park Minot Sports organization was established in 1955. How do I add this to pass Wikipedia's (rules).

Bill

Jason Peters

So “Redskins player Chris Baker realized his team had no chance of fairly winning the game. Decided to follow long standing Washington tradition of taking opposition players out with a cheap shot“ is neutral, but “Redskins player Chris Baker performed a ‘cheap shot’ against Eagles quarterback Nick Foles” isn’t? My change made the page more neutral and also corrected the grammar.

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