User talk: Diannaa

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Markham, Ontario

Hi, I have noticed that my edits from April 15 on the article "Markham, Ontario" have all been removed due to copyright violations and plagiarism. I am sorry if the content that I have added resembled content from other sources. However, I have not intended to plagiarize as I already know the information off the top of my head, and I added the citations to ensure that what I have written down is verifiable. Would it be possible if the version from April 15 is restored so that I could restate or summarize my work to avoid future copyright issues? I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks, 209.221.91.117

Constitutional Court of Azerbaijan

How do you do! Sorry for bothering but I'd like to thank you for advices, I appreciate it. Also, I'd like to ask you to allow me to paraphrase the article called "Constitutional Court of Azerbaijan". --Acdc88 (talk) 17:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

IKt's okay for you to edit that article but everything you add needs to be written in your own words, not copied from elsewhere online. One thing I find that works for me is to read over the source material and then pretend I am verbally describing the topic to a friend in my own words. Stuff should also be presented in a different order where possible. Summarize rather than paraphrase. This will typically result in your version being much shorter than the source document. There's some reading material on this topic at Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing and/or have a look at the material at Purdue or study this module aimed at WikiEd students. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

removal of changes on Root microbiome

Dear Diannaa, I suspect that my changes on Root microbiome article were removed because of similarities of text that was detected automatically. If you would compare the text to its source, you would see it was rephrased where possible. I assure you, that I comply to the rules of citing and not copy-pasting. I think the problem arises due to several sentences where there is a listing of bacterial species, which is unavoidable and gives stretches of identical text. I hold a PhD in Science, and Microbiology is my subject; In fact, I edit Wikipedia as a volunteer for FEMS, who are holders of license of article I was citing (to know about project see here: https://fems-microbiology.org/network/types-of-involvement/volunteering/). FEMS grants me the access to their journals, which is one of my major citing sources. For the future, I need to know what to do in such cases - of course I can try to be more stringent and reshuffle the text even more, can I then put it back? Although in my opinion this is just taking time and not giving more value. Anyway, let me know how to proceed for this article. Regards, Dukas.ju (talk) 21:37, 2 April 2019 (UTC)Dukas.ju

Your addition was flagged by a bot as a potential copyright issue and was assessed by myself. Here is a link to the bot report. Click on the iThenticate link to view the overlap. Google searching shows that there's even more overlap than was revealed by the iThenticate tool, far more than is acceptable on Wikipedia, and that's why I had to remove it. Having access to an article is not the same thing as having the right to copy it here unaltered. Shuffling things around is not adequate; you need to re-write the content in your own words. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:13, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

So Percussion

Hi, Diannaa. I got your note that said I couldn't use the exact words from So Percussion's own site. Thanks, I wasn't trying to plagiarize. I just figured it was such a minimal fact, that the name suggestion came from a member's sister, that it didn't matter much to rephrase it. But I will rephrase in the future. Just out of curiosity, are you the one who changed it? I'm surprised you didn't keep the fact that she lived in Japan at least 20 years and worked as a translator? --Greg Dahlen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg Dahlen (talk • contribs) 02:02, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I removed it because the wording was identical to the source. That's a violation of our copyright policy. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:41, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Traditional knowledge cleanup

Thanks for your help with the copyvios. I think I would have gotten to it eventually, but either way, better it's gone as soon as possible. You know... the stuff added by that account was so full of weird misinformation (even if well-intentioned) and red flags, my instinct was just to mass-revert all of it rather than take the time to pick through it all. Next time I'll trust my instincts. Thanks again. - CorbieV ^☊ ☼ 20:58, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Draft in Catherinelegge's Sandbox

Hi Diannaa, thank you for your monitoring of copyright violations. The work that was present in Catherinelegge's Sandbox was part of a project for the International Politics undergraduate class as Memorial University of Newfoundland. Three students were working on that draft, and they would like to rectify their errors. However, their draft was blocked and deleted, and they do not have an alternate copy of their work, as they were drafting in that sandbox. Would it be possible for you to reverse the block and deletion of their draft in Catherinelegge's Sandbox so that these three students can revise their work to be in compliance with Wikipedia's copyright policy? Thank you! Griffyn1987 (talk) 13:56, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry but we can't host copyright content on Wikipedia, not even in sandboxes or drafts, so I can't restore it. If any of the students has activated their Wikipedia email, I could email a copy. But the work would have to continue offline, as we can't host it here. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:00, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Diannaa, for your speedy reply. At least one member of the group, Jjpandy, has an active Wiki email at which they could receive a copy of their draft, which they will revise offline. They were a little surprised that their work had been lost, but they've certainly learned a lesson on the importance of adhering to Wikipedia's copyright policy. Thanks again! :) Griffyn1987 (talk) 19:24, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Email sent. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:17, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Hello, Diannaa. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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BilCat (talk) 18:01, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Question about revdeleting copyvios

When a copyvio is found and removed, How do you A) tag the diff for removal, and B) determine weather or not it's worthy being removed? (For example, would this or this be removed?💵Money💵emoji💵^💸 14:33, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Marking of material that needs to be revision deleted is done with the Template:Copyvio-revdel. It calls for the person adding the template to add the revision number of the diff where the content was added as well as the diff where it was removed, and the source url. All violations of the copyright policy should be removed, and they should all be revision deleted, but different admins will have differences as to how far they are willing to go with this. All the admins listed at Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests are experienced at doing revision deletion and will make similar but not necessarily identical decisions as to what to do. If in doubt, remove the violation and tag for revision deletion, and the patrolling admin will decide what to do. If you are not comfortable using the template or find it awkward or tricky to use, please feel free to report here with the details and I will look at it. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:44, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Remember the Ultraman pages you have protected?

Back then you have protected the pages The Return of Ultraman, Ultraman Ace, Ultraman Taro and etc because of an anon, but this anon returns in an account and he has re-doing what you reverted. That user's name is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oon835. Zero stylinx (talk) 14:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't have time to look after the Ultraman pages any more. Please post at WP:RFPP if you want protection. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 16:39, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Look, I don't want protection, because doing that means I can't edit the page too. All I want to point out is that your previous action is a waste, unless this user is given a suitable action.Zero stylinx (talk) 16:54, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't follow that I must continue to police this suite of articles. I am prepared to live with the fact that my previous efforts were in vain. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 17:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Possible copyright violation by MrKiD2.0

You have warned this editor about copyright violations before in their talk page, it seems like they doing again in Man on the Moon: The End of Day [1]. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 12:40, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Which part of the edit is copyvio? from which source? I have a feeling you are counting the two quotations as being a violation. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 17:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

The two quotations are taken from this source. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 12:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Are quotations a violation of the copyright policy? Asking for a friend ;) — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

The quotations are okay, right? TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 13:07, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes. Short quotations are okay to use — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:10, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, just making sure. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 13:14, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Possible COPYVIO Brandon, Mississippi

Hello Diannaa, According to Earwig's Copyvio Detector, there is a high probability of copyright content added on March 3, 2019 to the History section of the Brandon, Mississippi article. Regards. Woodlot (talk) 18:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for reporting. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:38, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again Diannaa, but the copyright content has been reinserted on the Brandon, MS page by the same offender. Woodlot (talk) 14:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I will watch-list the page and have written the user a short note which I hope will get his attention. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:37, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

2405:204:A0AA:82FD:9DDF:22F4:C609:CBBB

I am having difficulty trying to tell is user:2405:204:A0AA:82FD:9DDF:22F4:C609:CBBB is a vandal because they keep making these subtle changes to peoples heights. Could you please give me your opinion on them. CLCStudent (talk) 20:40, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I think this belongs at WP:AIV — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, the only reason I did not report them there is because it was hard for me to tell if they are a vandal. CLCStudent (talk) 20:48, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I would say yes. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Cordeaux

Hi Diannaa,

concerning your removal of text I added to John Cordeaux (ornithologist). Sorry, if I crossed the border of copying "nearly verbatim" (as you mention it) and summarizing in my own words. Of course that was never my intention. I cannot really check what I have done wrong, because you removed the text. Could you please copy it to my sandbox, so that I can further work on it and ask your help, if I don't manage to handle this?

I had the intention to "combine" this text with other (scarce) biographical notes on Cordeaux I found. I was still working on this. But it is something that I do beside other things, so it can take some time. Apart from that, English is not my native language, and I do not always find the right words. Sorry for that, again. But I'm happy to continue working on it in my sandbox first, before putting it in the main namespace. Many thanks in advance for your help, --Dick Bos (talk) 07:51, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry but we can't host copyright content on this wiki, not even in sandboxes or drafts. Instead, I have sent you a copy of the removed material via email. The email address you have listed for nl.wiki since you don't have email access via en.wiki. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Cyamites2

Hello. You changed a portion of my edit on the Cyamites page, and while I now understand not to state ancient opinions as fact in Wikipedia's voice, and can reword those things, I want to make sure we agree before I make any further edits.

• Firstly, Theoi's Copyright ended in 2017, as stated at the bottom of their website, and at the beginning of 2018, Aaron J. Atsma of [Theoi.com] was quoted by an interviewer at [2] in saying "The aim of the project is to provide a comprehensive, free reference guide to the gods (theoi), spirits (daimones), fabulous creatures (theres) and heroes of ancient Greek mythology and religion". It now allows users to copy text from their website which was previously not an option, and other sites cite Theoi such as [3] as an example of a proper citation.

• Secondly, I had deleted the third note, listing Pausanias Description of Greece 1.37.4 because it did not fit with its original statement being in regards to the stand near his temple, as this cite is in regards to him having a temple on the Sacred Way where only those who had been initiated at Eleusinian or had read the Orphica would understand. I admit the citation needed fixing, but I'm not sure if you deleted it for the same reason as the first. Can I add these again if I say they are quotes from such-n-such?

• Thirdly, is in regards to the difference in names, and that of ancient opinions versus the historical record. The Eleusinian Mysteries are discussed throughout the Socratic dialogue#Platonic_dialogues, and Plato's Cratylus which discusses "whether names are "conventional" or "natural", that is, whether language is a system of arbitrary signs or whether words have an intrinsic relation to the things they signify". A considerable amount of time is spent discussing the origin of Hadês' name whose earliest attested form is missing the proposed Digamma in the third line of Homer's Iliad, where dropping it destroyed the rhythmic structure and left the meter defective according to [4], but that is argued in its comments.

• To further support this, I'm working on the following, but I do not know how to include an image of it in case you cannot see it due to not having Archaic Greek fonts installed on your system.

In Ionic Greek, Digamma, waw, or wau (uppercase: Ϝ, lowercase: ϝ, numeral: ϛ) is an archaic letter of the Greek alphabet that originally stood for the sound /w/, but had disappeared before Homer's epics were written during the 7th century BCE, yet its former presence can be detected in many cases because its omission left the meter defective. The word Anax ἄναξ "(tribal) king, lord, (military) leader". would have originally been (Greek: ἄναξ; from earlier ϝάναξ, wánax) and is attested in this form in Mycenaean Greek. Further evidence coupled with cognate-analysis shows οἶνος from earlier ϝοῖνος also used /wóînos/ (cf. Cretan Doric ibêna, cf. Latin vīnum and English "wine") when the meter was defective.

Because of the above, and that Cyamites is said to be an epithet of Hadês, I think both versions can be asserted with the proper citation and wordage.

Thanks for your help, Davidlwinkler (talk) 08:27, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

There's two reasons I removed the content. First, the page is marked at the bottom as "© Copyright 2000 - 2017 Aaron J. Atsma, Netherlands & New Zealand". "Free to use" is not the same thing as being in the public domain. Second, you added " I cannot state for certain whether he was the first to sow beans..." without stating who said this. The way you added it, it looks like Wikipedia is saying it. It's okay to use quotations as long as they are properly attributed and you put quotation marks. For example, it's okay to write "Pausanius said in his Description of Greece: 'I cannot state for certain whether he was the first to sow beans,' Hope this makes it clearer why I removed it and what you should do next. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:29, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

References

Just to clarify for the user, "Copyright 2000 - 2017" doesn't mean the copyright runs out in 2017. It means that there was new material added in 2017, so that material is under a copyright that began in 2017 but will run for decades to come. --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:54, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Nat Gertler, thanks for that. I've found some other citations to make a decent page out of it, but I need to spend some time reading about credible citations to help recognize poor ones in the future. Thanks for the tip!Davidlwinkler (talk) 18:13, April 2019 (UTC)

Diannaa, I've worked diligently in my sandbox for this Cyamites page, and it's pushing what seems to be about 20 pages. Once I finish, I'd appreciate it if you would edit what I have prior to my submission, but wondered if you could take a look at the Pythagoras page. I noticed a citation to a book by Richard J. Simoons I'd wanted to use, but it is copyrighted. In fact, it seems that the big update this page received is full of citations to copyrighted material. Thanks in advance,

Davidlwinkler (talk) 07:14, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't have time or interest in going through your sandbox. Most of what's there appears to be quotations. It's not clear what I am supposed to be looking for. I don't understand your second question either: pretty much all of our source books are copyright, and what we do here is write our own prose using such sources. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:32, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

I thought since Wikipedia editors review sandboxes when submitted for review, they might also give suggestions prior to submission. I have some particular questions about my article, such as its flow, and if all of it can be combined into the one article, but haven't been through the submission process to know what it entails. There is a lot I need to learn about citations; however, your response just explained the freedom I have to write an intro. Thank you. The quotes in my sandbox are properly sourced, but most of the statements are from other Wikipedia pages, and were in Wikipedia's voice. Thank you again. - Davidlwinkler (talk) 16:36, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't have the time or interest to work on this with you. Please note that copying within Wikipedia requires attribution. Please see WP:copying within Wikipedia for details on how to do it. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:56, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

remove copyright content copied from https://www.thehindu.com/2004/04/29/stories/2004042905070400.htm, https://eci.nic.in/eci_main/Exhibition_Panels/Panel5.pdf

Hello Diannaa, Please understand that the information put up by me from the source is in Public domain. Info. about new design & technology added as per new manual uploaded by the Election Commission. Only a part of the manual was used in the wiki page. Further, there is an ongoing elections in India and the information will be helpful in understanding about the design of the EVM used in the country. Please republish the material I've posted on the wiki page. This will also help eliminate the fake news circulation about the voting in India through EVM. Keeping the old info. on the page is a regressive action. Please let me know about your view on the page. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishekraj170 (talk • contribs) 05:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry but both pages are marked at the bottom as being copyright. That means you can't copy their contents here - it's against Wikipedia's copyright policy to do so. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:40, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Please visit this link for the info. on copyright material. https://eci.gov.in/website-policy/copyright-r4/ You please republish the material and I'll edit the same. Abhishekraj170 (talk) 19:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

That page says that "This is subject to the material being reproduced accurately and not being used in a derogatory manner or in a misleading context", and we can't guarantee that, so this license is not liberal enough to be compatible with our license. And that license certainly does not apply to The Hindu, which is not a government publication. Sorry, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:23, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, the part of material taken is used in a useful and accurate manner for the awareness of the common people about the EVM and never used in a derogatory manner as the copyright info. page said. If there is any discrepancy, please let me know. I'll edit the part from 'The Hindu'. Or you can yourself edit or remove that part. Please re-publish the removed material. Be assure that I'll rewrite in my words from next time and will take care of the copyright content. Thanks! Abhishekraj170 (talk) 05:54, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

The problem is that anything posted on Wikipedia is free to share under the terms of our license, and we can't guarantee that re-users of the content as required under the Government of India's copyright policy. Therefore you can't copy it here. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Copyright help

Hi, Dianaa. I see that you warned BoogaLouie about copyvio in 2016, and the editor's talk page shows warnings in 2010, and two from 2012. This is a 2017 problem, as is this. And another with straight cut-and-paste ("Less than two per cent of reported crimes are prosecuted.") He is still making a lot of content contributions; has anything been done about watching or mentoring this editor, or is something else needed? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:17, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi SandyGeorgia. If the most recent violation you can find is from two years ago, it's likely the violations have stopped. Monitoring or mentoring in such a case would not be a productive use of my time. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:42, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Dianaa; I hadn't actually checked beyond that one article, but if you're not worried, I'm not worried! Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:49, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I edit a lot of articles that are controversial where using quotes avoids complaints about accuracy, on the other hand wikipedia policy forbids "quote farms ", and I've had text deleted on that grounds, so sometimes you are caught in the middle. --BoogaLouie (talk) 23:45, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Short properly attributed quotations are okay to use. No worries there. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:16, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

mikhail shishkin (writer)

Hi, Diannaa

Thank very much for your attention and for helping me to write the article!

I agree with some of your removings. Nevertheless I have some questions:

1. You removed the information about Shishkin´s education and the very important information that he moved from Russia to Switzerland. Would you be please so kind to explain the reason?

2. Why did you remove the information about his debut? The short story got the literary prize for the best debut of the year.

3. You removed the quotation from Shishkin´s Open Letter. What is the reason? It is a quotation. Should I shorten it?

Mikhail Shishkin declared in his Open Letter:

A country where power has been seized by a corrupt, criminal regime, where the state is a pyramid of thieves, where elections have become farce, where courts serve the authorities, not the law, where there are political prisoners, where state television has become a prostitute, where packs of impostors pass insane laws that are returning everyone to the Middle Ages – such a country cannot be my Russia. I want to and will represent another Russia, my Russia, a country free of impostors, a country with a state structure that defends the right of the individual, not the right to corruption, a country with a free media, free elections, and free people.

5. The article got this alert:

Cite error: The named reference taplin was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

Is it because you removed the reference which was before?

6. You removed the link to Shishkin´s literary Agency? why? Should it be posted on another place in the article?

• Shishkin´s Literary Agency

thank you very much for your support! I will appreciate your answer to my questions.

Schischkinm (talk) 20:25, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

I have removed some material from your post. Here are answers to your questions:

1. The material was removed because it was copied unaltered from the source. You can't do that; it's a violation of our copyright policy.
2. The material was removed because it was copied unaltered from the source. You can't do that; it's a violation of our copyright policy.
3. I meant to restore the quotation but I forgot. It's back now.
4. There is no question #4.
5. The cite error is gone; it was fixed by a bot.
6. We don't normally include the name of an artist's agent. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

References

Enjoy the Spring Season!

I hope that this Spring brings you some good moods and pleasant thoughts. Thank you again for being a good woman! Sincerely, Michael

MichaelPeiper0331 (talk) 21:03, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello Diannaa, thank you for the message you left on my profile and for the attribution on the Azerbaijanis article. I was not aware I had to do this, I am still somewhat new to this and am reading the rules as I progress, thank you very much for bringing this to my attention. Migboy123 (talk) 23:53, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Le géoparc des dinosaures du pays de Hateg

Hi Dianna. Per WP:THQ#Je ne peux pas télécharger mes propres photos sur un article que je viens de créer, this might be a good faith attempt to get an article from French Wikipedia translated into English for English Wikipedia. How should this be attributed since it seems to technically be more of a copy-paste move than a translation of content found on French Wikipedia? -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:26, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I added a note on the draft itself and in an edit summary. If and when the draft gets translated, we can add a translated template to the talk page. I've also left the user a note about how to do attribution when copying compatibly licensed material in the future. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look at this. — Marchjuly (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Draft: Free Burghers

Your instructions with regards to copy right guidelines are highly valued, thank you. I will make sure that edits as well as proposed articles will adhere thereto. Please accept my apology. Part of the article has been altered to make good the cited error. Also; I will, to put at ease, re-visit the article with due diligence once more. Warm Regards Bhistory 09:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boershistory (talk • contribs)

Some stroopwafels for you!

Thanks for your guidance, these are delish with coffee or tea. Bhistory 09:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

How to know if a web site is good for citation.

Hi Diannaa,

In my original edits I used a web site called IMDB as a reference for the articles I worked on. This web site is no good and I am going back to my earlier edits and fix that.

Regarding databases I was wondering if TCM, and TV Guide were good?

I also found the The Classic TV Archive Homepage at: http://ctva.biz/

This page would be minor miracle if it could be used as a citation.

Is there a list to find out what web sites are acceptable or not in Wikipedia? Filmman3000 (talk) 06:46, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

The place to go to find out which sources are considered reliable and okay to use is Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. There's a list at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. If you don't see the source listed, you can search the archives, and if you still can't find it, you can post a question. What Wikipedia is looking for is websites that themselves use reliable sources and have editorial control over their content. ctva.biz is not considered a reliable source; IMDb is not considered a reliable source; TV Guide is okay to use. I was unable to find anything out about TCM, and was unable to locate any content on their website other than lists of things for sale. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:57, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks strange about TCM below is a link to the citation I use.

http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/88611/Roogie-s-Bump/ Filmman3000 (talk) 22:24, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

I just found out what was odd about TCM when you googled them. Basically the first page that pops up is their store not their home page.

Thanks for the feedback! I have brought this subject to the Reliable sources/Noticeboard.

I wrote the following and on the Reliable sources/Noticeboard. It will help figuring out if TCM is a reliable source when it comes to their database. :::also contacted them to see what they had to say about this.

Link to discussion: :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#How_would_guys_consider_TCM_%28Turner_Classic_Movies%29_especially_their_TCMDb_section_for_sources_and_citations.

What I say about it:

Turner Classic Movie has a solid Database for film. I also believe that it is NOT user-generated. Check out their TCMDb section. They seem reliable :::when it comes to year of release, cast & crew, even some areas have a Leonard Maltin reviews.

Main Page: http://www.tcm.com/

TCMDb section: http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/?ecid=subnavdatabasehome

"To Have and To Have Not" film page: http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/3190/To-Have-and-Have-Not/

If you can join the discussion on the Notice Board it would be appreciated.

Thanks again for your feedback and time. I truly appreciate your good guidance on this site.Filmman3000 (talk) 22:53, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Plagiarism

Dear Diannaa, I would appreciate your input on MotherFatherSon#Episodes short summaries; this shows that since the revision as of 20:29, March 28, 2019, I have been dealing with blatent attempts to copy 'n' paste.
Your intervention would help an old Welshman who appears to be hitting a stone wall. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:10, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the report. There was copied material right from the first edit. I've restored your clean version and hidden most of the editing history. Their last edit was only a few minutes ago so hopefully they will see my message and stop now. I will watch-list the page and will semi-protect if the activity starts up again. Blocks won't work since the activity is coming from a coupla different dynamic IPs. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:11, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks for such a quick action. I am most grateful. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:23, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Richard E. Cole

Hi Diannaa, you helped me with some copyvio issues on the Richard E. Cole article last September, and we were able to save the article from being deleted. Col. Cole passed away today, and I'm glad we had his article published in time. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 03:24, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Copyvio, 92.4%. Could use a second opinion.

This BLP, Daniel Heath Justice is pretty much wholly copied and pasted from the sites listed here. Clicking on show all also brings up 92.4% confidence on the entire "Personal Details" section. Article looks to have been created by one of the contributors to the BLP's anthology, promoted in the article, and a co-editor on another of the projects promoted. This is pretty overwhelming, re: Do we need to delete all past revisions? Should we just delete the whole thing? Indigenous girl is attempting cleanup now, but even the lede includes copyvios. - CorbieV ^☊ ☼ 22:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Yep, even after being gutted, even what's left, that isn't direct quotes, is copyvio[5]. - CorbieV ^☊ ☼ 22:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

However it's not a bottomless pit of copyvio. Versions prior to March 2018 are okay, so I've re-worked the lead, partially with content from the older versions. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:09, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Forgot to say, I am concerned about the unsourced categories and date of birth so I am going to remove some of that stuff. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:10, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with this. - CorbieV ^☊ ☼ 23:33, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Nouvelle Experience

Hi Diannaa! Thanks for adding in the citation on the Cirque du Soleil article I edited. You noted that it was copied over from Cirque wiki, but it was actually taken from a contribution written by (TruSilver in 2007, almost two years before the article on Cirque Wiki. The content was removed by someone for whatever reason. How do we go about keeping the attribution to wikpiedia and not to an external source that merely copied what was lost on wikipedia already. Thanks! Sam 128.250.0.195 (talk) 04:39, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps next time you could state in your edit summary where you got the content so that I can locate it readily. Once the material is removed from the source Wikipedia article it is difficult to locate, as Google searching won't show it - it will only show the mirrors. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Ecocide

Hi Diannaa, You say you have removed material I added to the page on Ecocide. As far as I can see, what I added is still there...? Freedained (talk) 08:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Only part of your additions was removed. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

How to change the class of an article

Hi Diannaa,

I have worked on several articles that I believe can receive a class upgrade, especially those that were in stub class, and start class. Unless it is allowed, I don't want to be the guy who upgrades his articles on his own, just to avoid another sticker debacle on my wall. What is the normal procedure thanks.

And thank you for your help one day I will glue a barn star or a pancake sticker on your wallFilmman3000 (talk) 21:21, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello Filmman3000. I think any editor can make the decision to upgrade an article from stub class to start class. Remove the stub template from the article and change each of the wikiproject ratings on the talk page. Anything beyond that I think I would post at a relevant wikiproject page and ask one of their people to re-assess. Good Articles, A-Class articles, and Fearured Articles all have formal review procedures before those grades can be assigned. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:48, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Forgot to say: Here's a chart that shows the levels: Wikipedia:Content assessment— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 00:10, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Alberta Odell Jones

It is hard to infringe on something when you are the author. Check the University of Kentucky article that I wrote on this over 6 years ago. Also, my grandmother is her sister, check WHAS11 news for this verification. What I wrote is truth and since I live with the person who knew her best, her sister and she had me to correct the info, because New York Times and several quote sources have stated things that are not correct. No copyright issues when you are the original author as well as have the living blood relative who is the contributor. I am the niece so I think I would know the history of my aunt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicole8134 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

We need to have documentation that shows the copyright holders have given permission for the material to be copied to this website. Wikipedia has procedures in place for this purpose. Please see WP:Donating copyrighted materials for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:06, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Well Diannaa why don't we bring suit against you and Wikipedia for publishing about my Aunt without our permission or even verifying that what was originally published was even the truth about my Aunt's life or legacy. I will check with my grandmother Mrs. Shanklin to see if she would like to bring suit against you all since you did not have permission to print or even have the decency to verify what was written was even truth. We will consult with our attorneys to see what we can have done about this, especially since it was published without consent or knowledge. So where do we have you and Wikipedia served? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicole8134 (talk • contribs) 13:20, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

While you are welcome to contact your lawyer or initiate legal action, threatening people with legal action is not permitted. You need to immediately retract this threat of legal action or be blocked from editing. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:33, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

You all should be required to get permission considering all news sources do not print what is correct. You all need to check those references before publishing anything and if the person is living or the person handling the estate is living you need to require permission. As I stated there is no infringement on what I wrote, since I was the one who wrote what was published over 6 years or so ago, which can be verified by the UK archives. What is written on your site does not hold all truth. You all are scared by attorneys so, to try and keep your stand point you threaten to block people from editing information about themselves, their family, etc.That is a cowards why of doing things, and if you where not concerned or know this to be true then you would simply reach out to the family or the person either by phone or email, since that is how all the others have reached out to us when they are going to cover anything about her. My grandmother is not happy with you all and wishes for you to remove her sister from Wikipedia. You did not have permission from her or our attorneys to print without prior consent or preview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicole8134 (talk • contribs) 13:39, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

We don't need permission from your family or its attorneys to write an article about a given person - US law (which is the governing law here as Wikipedia's servers are hosted in California) makes this clear. And of course we'd be scared of attorneys - who wouldn't be in a system where SLAPPs such as what you intend to file are routinely filed? Even in states with strong anti-SLAPP laws (like California, again) the goal of such lawsuits isn't actually to force an action - it's to bleed the victim dry. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^Bori! 21:26, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

		The Purple Barnstar
		For the grace under fire you have displayed in this thread, I hereby award you the Purple Barnstar. Don't thank me, you've earned it :) TomStar81 (Talk) 00:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Copyright

Lists of facts are not subject to copyright. Medical conditions are defined by a number of clinical features. To describe a condition the specific clinical features must be listed. Because there this particular condition is rare any listing of its features will look similar. Nonetheless it is no harm to have the attribution listed.Virion123 (talk) 07:06, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Copyright

Sorry I will edit my words only. The mistake committed because of lack of source . Thank you BHARATHESHA ALASANDEMAJALU (talk) 18:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Jstor journal

Hi Diannaa, I note you have yourself down with jstor access. I am looking at using this journal in this article, though I can only see the first page (of 3). Are you able to access the remainder, and if so, how would I be able to access this? Thanks. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:36, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

I've downloaded it - if you could activate your Wikipedia email I can get you a copy. I can't send an attachment via Wikipedia email though, so you will have to email me and I will send the attachment in my reply. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:49, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Ah yes thanks for pointing that out - I was going to change it but never got round to it, so have put it back to original. Should be ok now. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:24, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

I've sent you an email - you need to reply so that I can send the attachment. The Wikipedia email system does not allow attachments, so I can't send it until you do. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:34, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Email received - the PDF should be arriving at your inbox momentarily. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:45, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Received, thank you. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:53, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

History of homeschooling

Hi Diannaa

You have removed content from one of my Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homeschooling_in_South_Africa. However, the quotations that you removed were copied from one of my own articles on the website www.sahomeschoolers.org (which is my personal website) or an article written by myself on www.pestalozzi.org. Given that I am chairman of the Pestalozzi Trust, I can also give permission to copy text from that website. If I copy my own writings, I do not view this as an copyright infringement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bouwevandereems (talk • contribs) 05:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

We can't take your word that you're the actual author. Please see WP:Donating copyrighted materials for how to formally allow Wikipedia to use your writings. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^Bori! 05:46, 15 April 2019 (UTC)