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Common Questions & Answers

These following questions have been addressed repeatedly:

"Wii" vs. "Nintendo Wii"?

The first and most frequently asked question -- and the official trademark is just "Wii". See the Talk archives (pages 6 thru 10) and the separately archived survey if you need the details.

"Wii" vs. "The Wii"?

Obviously, the official trademark is not "The Wii" but "Wii". People generally call it "the Wii" (like a common noun), while Nintendo prefers to phrase it as simply "Wii" (like a name) to utilize its similarity to we (e.g. "Wii will change gaming forever").

"Wee" (as in urine) ?

There is no need to mention urine in the article, so please don't. For a survey on the subject, see archive #14.


North America vs. Japan

Any word on why North America gets the better end of the deal this time around, what with an earlier release date and Wii Sports packaged with the console? —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 04:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, Japan gets the system at a cheaper price (since they aren't forced to buy Wii Sports like the rest of us have to). They also get all the accessories and Virtual Console games at cheaper prices. This isn't a messageboard though. TJ Spyke 04:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm aware that this "isn't a messageboard". It's a place to discuss the content of the article. And I haven't seen any mention of why the Wii is going to be released in North America before it is released in Japan, on Wikipedia or otherwise. Seeing as how this is a break in (logical) tradition, it seems noteworthy enough to mention in the article. The fact that Wii Sports comes pre-packaged with the system in all places but Japan is curious, too. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 05:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Do you have some article somewhere that mentions why Nintendo did this? If so, bring it forward and be bold in editing the article. I haven't seen any reason, although it would be a nice addition, possibly one sentence in the introduction.--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 00:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
That's what I'm saying. I haven't seen any article citing a reason. But I'm not actively looking for one. I figured you guys, who regularly edit this article, may have found something. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 01:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
The reason for the delay was because Japan's holiday shopping season starts later than in the Americas. Thus, Nintendo decided to push back Japan's release date. (I'm still looking for the article which gives this reason, will get back to y'all as soon as possible.) fmmarianicolon | Talk 02:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Here is a link to the article mentioning the reason: http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/fun.games/11/19/nintendo.wii.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories . I'd edit it in, but I'm not sure how to reference a CNN webpage that used an Associated Press story. fmmarianicolon | Talk 02:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Sensor bar

Any idea on which physical principle it works?--Nemissimo II 09:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

See Wii Remote#Sensing. JQF 17:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm guessing infrared, like most remotes use. Jecowa 05:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
The bar has infrared LEDs on each side, and the Wiimote detects these and uses this to estimate where on the screen it is pointing. TheWarlock 16:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Wii remote

Its called the Wii-mote not wii remote, If you dont know about it dont edit it!!!!!!!!!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zach The Video Game Guy (talk • contribs) .

It's called the Wii Remote, not Wii-mote. And this is Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia that anyone can edit. // Sasuke-kun27 20:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Sasuke is right, it's called the Wii Remote. It was the press who started saying Wiimote/Wii-mote, but the controller is still the Wii Remote. TJ Spyke 21:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I would also like to point out that it's fine to call it the wii-mote on the talk page, just not in the article.--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 01:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but doesn't it at least deserve a mention in the article? If no other reason than for clarification of the distinction between the two? I believe that the word wiimote, which I believe was coined by Matt Cassimisina at IGN Wii, has had a profound effect on many people's perception of Nintendo PR and Marketing. In fact, I remember an interview with Perrin Kaplan, VP of Big N's Marketing in the US, where she specifically said that someone had made a slip during a speech and had called it a Wiimote, making the joke that Matt had done some marketing spin for them. LavaHot 09:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Although Nintendo has referred to it as the Wii-mote before, the retail package used in North America reads "Wii Remote / Télécommande Wii / Control Remoto Wii." "Wii Remote" seems to have been their final decision for the English name. Jecowa 05:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Wii Remote was always the correct name. Every statement released by Nintendo (not interviews with PR people) only says Wii Remote. Also, The Wii Remote page makes mentione of the incorrect name. TJ Spyke 05:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Time to archive this page, wouldn't you agree?

-topic-

Duhman0009 21:50, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I would, and did. Just64helpin 22:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

USB memory card

Is there any information out yet about using a usb flash drive as a memory card. i figure it wont because they will want you to buy more of their products(unless they make them) but i really hope it does so i have an extra 60GB(portable HDD) of storage space.70.105.103.109 22:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)Masterpyro

Perrin Kaplin says they won't be supported at launch, but would be possible with a download in the future. TJ Spyke 22:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
It was also mentioned that there's a slot for SD cards on the fron that can be used for memory expansion. I can't think where but there was also an article that said .mp3s on SD cards can be used for custom soundtracks at least on Excite Truck. Anyone remember where this was? BigHairRef | Talk 14:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
This was mentioned in an IGN Article, since they had the official boxed copy, with the final retail manual (as well as being able to play the game), and so this is confirmed. Eriol Ancalagon 19:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I saw an article about using mp3's with excite truck on ign. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.57.96.232 (talk • contribs)
USB drives don't work. I tried it. You need an SD card or possibly an MMC card (since they are basically the same except that SD is a little thicker and has a lock feature). My MMC card is in my phone and missing right now, so I couldn't test an MMC card in it. :( Jecowa 05:41, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

"Popular culture" section

So, what's the consensus on this section? Should it be added or not? Just64helpin 22:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Considering it only contained one item, I don't think it contributed much to the article. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure pop culture sections ever add any value to an article. --Lethargy 22:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I think that some mention should be made to the mass of pro Wii anti PS3 buzz on YouTube and the sort. Particulary the Mac vs. PC PS3 vs. Wii parody- ~~Nicmerva 23:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Also see the discussions here (from Jimmy Wales) and at Wikipedia:Trivia. --Lethargy 23:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Reggie thinks it should [[2]], and you can't argue with the Reggienator, Dctcool 14:41 16 November (AEST)

Tense changes

Is there any organized plan for the changing of future tense in regards to the article's subject? Many changes will have to be made to the article once the console is released. Just64helpin 17:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I have created a page here, with pages that will be affected by the Wii launch (in more than tense perhaps as well). I think it would be a good idea to organize something where each person gets, say, 3 or 4 articles to edit (depending on the number of participants) so that we can have up-to-date info within two hours or so. Scepia 19:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I, Linktriforce007, would like to update Virtual Console (Wii) if you would allow me to. Linktriforce007 21:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Why are you asking us? By all means, be bold! Get started. —Shanesan (contribs) (Talk) 22:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
S/he's talking about when Wii is released. Reread Scepia's comments. — Jaxad0127 04:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

It's he. And yes Jaxad0127 is absolutely right when he says I'm waiting for the Wii's launch. I have a Wii on preorder, and I will pick it up on Day 1 to provide you with the latest VC news, Linktriforce007 style. Linktriforce007 21:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Simply looking at the VC list on the console is original research. You have to cite other sources and their lists, not your own experience. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 20:24, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Launch titles

You guys are in late. There are 29 confirmed launch titles, and Wii Play isn't one of them... go have a look at IGN's Wii Launch Guide 70.80.67.160 23:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Um, you are wrong. There are 20 launch games, with 13 more games coming out after launch and before the end of the year. IGN has been wrong many times, including now. Nintendo released a PR statement today with the games that will be out at launch. As for Wii Play, if you check you will see it's listed as a launch title in Europe/Japan/Australia where it IS coming out for launch. TJ Spyke 23:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

"References" cleanup

The "references" section is quite long and contains many redundant or similar links. Some consolidation is required to reduce its size. Just64helpin 01:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

For those unfamiliar with how to do this, see Wikipedia:Footnotes#Citing a footnote more than once. --Lethargy 02:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Future enhancements

Mausy5043 10:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC) : Nintendo has already announced (by way of Sonic) that they will be installing DVD functionality in the next version of the Wii. I expect more announcements to come. Is it possible to add a chapter for grouping of the announced upgrades to the current hardware incursion?

Playing old games?

So will this Wii be able to play old NES and SNES games? Can it play them straight off the cartridges or will I need special adapters? Would it be worth the money and the bother to buy the Wii just to play old games? JIP | Talk 11:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

See Virtual Console (Wii). You have to purchase them from their online service; you cannot use original cartridges. -- jeffthejiff 11:42, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
    • good too, because some of the better NES and SNES cartridges contain a battery that would hold your saved game data. These batteries have been dying, causing your saved games to be reset.--68.34.10.182 13:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Nunchuck, Classic Controllers

Anyone think that it'd be worthwhile having something about the nunchuck controller on the main page or perhaps on its own new page? It and the classic controller appear to have been left off the main descriptions. BigHairRef | Talk 15:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

In fact, the article has no explanation whatsoever of what the 'classic' controller is. --InShaneee 20:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
There is a link to the Wii Remote page, which goes into lots of detail. Also, it's spelled "nunchuk". I wouldn't be opposed to a small description of the Nunchuk and Classic Controller on the Wii page. TJ Spyke 20:42, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Someone who can edit fancy putting them in then? I reckon some pics to go along with the wiimote wouldn't go amiss either. BigHairRef | Talk 01:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I've created a page for the nunchuk but mainly becuase of incompetence and not really having time it's not oo great at the mo anyone fancy trying to improve it? Nunchuk controller BigHairRef | Talk 01:51, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

RGB Cables on Display

There are RGB SCART cables coming out on launch in the UK and probably Europe. They're listed on Amazon and many other online shops. Could someone who can edit please edit accordingly. RatzaChewy 16:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

There's a picture here if it's of any use, as well as packaged remotes and nunchuck controlers. BigHairRef | Talk 19:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hurrah for cardboard boxes.Sockatume 21:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Interestingly (assuming these are the EU boxes as well) this is the first time I've seen any Nintendo consumables displayed in what they're sold in (a la sony PS2 controllers and memory cards) rather than just having the picture of them on the box. Letting people touch what they'll be using, possibly something of a marketing tool to get more people to buy. Perhaps my inner conspiracy theorist is going ott a bit. BigHairRef | Talk 01:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Game Development

There is a game development section in the PS3 article, shoudn't there be one here? I think the program LiveMove, by AiLive, should be mentioned- [3]
Also, I think it should be mentioned that game development for the Wii costs considerably less than the other consoles, as little as half- [4] and that Nintendo's shares have reached a record high in Japan in anticipation of the Wii- [5][6][7] BeefJeaunt 17:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Hardware

Wasn't it decided to hold off on posting MHz details till IBM, ATI or Nintendo said something on the subject? When did the IGN numbers get added back in? Is there a new more reliable named source for them? The IBM technical specifications on the processor that is suspected to be the Broadway (the 750CL) has a clockspeed listed of up to 900MHz and it is apparently designed to use speed step quite heavily, the rumor has been going around since those details were made available that the rather odd clockspeed of 729MHz is simply an average speed.

In fact it looks like the sourced IBM numbers were replaced with the IGN numbers from the unnamed source in this update. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wii&diff=88148062&oldid=88140082

I guess that until Nintendo tells us what's inside or someone opens up his Wii and takes a look at the partnumbers on the chips, we won't be certain what's inside. IMHO, the info put on the page should reflect the information currently released. And that means it's a PowerPC codenamed Broadway produced on 90nm SOI CMOS. Everything else is pure speculation. (Mausy5043 20:49, 16 November 2006 (UTC))

I think its about time the specs are put up. I also think the IGN specs are correct, as how GameFly, PC Magazine, etc are all using the numbers.
Plus IBM released a specs sheet about 1 1/2 months ago which is the same specs IGN released. This probably refers to the Wii's CPU.
http://www-306.ibm.com/chips/techlib/techlib.nsf/techdocs/2F33B5691BBB8769872571D10065F7D5/$file/ppc750cl_ds_dd20_5oct06.pdf
The IBM Spec sheet actually says it is anywhere from a 400MHz(IBMPPC750CLGEQ4024) to a 900MHz(IBMPPC750CLGEQ9024) procceser and there is no 729 at all in the documnet(Catprog 1:31 + 1000, 20 November 2006)

BusinesWeek article: The Big Ideas Behind Nintendo's Wii

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2006/tc20061116_750580.htm

Interesting stuff about design considerations. Maybe some of the information can be used in this article.

-- nyenyec ☎ 20:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Release Date Hijinks?

Should there be any mention of any of the lineups, or other activities that will or have happened surrounding the release of the console itself? It may be noteworthy, and deserving of its own section. Historical value if nothing else perhaps.

Just throwing the idea out there for others to comment on. Eriol Ancalagon 03:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Miyamoto: Wii supposed to be a sub-$100 console

"My idea was to spend nothing on the console technology so all the money could be spent on improving the interface and software. If we hadn't used NAND flash memory [to store data such as games and photos] and other pricey parts, we might have succeeded." Full Article: http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746380p1.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zabrak (talk • contribs)

Actually, that just means his original idea was to do that. I don't really think this is worth mentioning IMO. TJ Spyke 05:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Sometimes I wonder if there's enough material for an article on the history of the console's development. I bet there is. --Maxamegalon2000 05:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Definitely seems worth mentioning to me. --Lethargy 22:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

WHY?

--"P-Machine" 06:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)why cant we edit SOME OF US try to do a good job. cant some of us get the privalage of editing at least?

Only anon IP's and accounts less than 3 days old can't edit it. Once your account is 3 days old you will be able to edit it. TJ Spyke 06:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
You can also propose additions here (in the talk section). --Czj 06:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Could we discuss it on my talk page please thanks --"P-Machine" 06:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

"List of video games published by Nintendo" up for deletion

"List of video games published by Nintendo" is currently up for deletion. You are encouraged to take part in the discussion here. --Czj 06:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Vega?

Why is the following line in the main article?

Mostly people with the last name "VEGA" would have a really good chance of buying and owning the NINTENDO WII."rv"

HEY IM PRETTY SURE THIS IS VANDILISM HOW DO I DELETE IT?--"P-Machine" 07:07, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

7th Generation?

NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii. I count five.

Handhelds are not a new generation, they are a different platform!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.35.208.20 (talk • contribs)

The first two generations were before NES.--Ac1983fan 14:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Specifically, they're the Pong/Channel F generation and the Atari 2600 generation, respectively. 128.226.230.89 20:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Not quite. The Pong generation was not a general purpose console generation. The two generations were the Channel F/Atari 2600/Intellivision/Odyssey 2 (there are a few more I'm glossing over) and the "Super System" generation which included the Atari 5200 and Colecovision. Had the video game market not crashing in '83 and '84, the Colecovision would have most likely ended up as the top-dog console. So the seven generations are:
 # First Gen (Atari 2600/Intellivision)
 # Second Gen (Atari 5200/Colecovision)
 # Third Gen (NES/Sega Master System)
 # Fourth Gen (Genesis/SNES)
 # Fifth Gen (PS1/N64)
 # Sixth Gen (PS2/XBox/Gamecube)
 # Seventh Gen (XBox 360/Nintendo Wii/Playstation 3)
I hope that answers the question. :) Jbanes 15:04, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Check out History of computer and video games for an explanation of the different generations of video games. TJ Spyke 20:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Citation needed in Colombian price

The article says that the Wii will cost 1.100.000 colombian pesos, but then it says "Citation needed" I am from Colombia and I have sources that confirm the colombian price, as you can see in this online store http://www.fotojapon.com/especifico.aspx?id=34970 I don't know how to eliminate the citation needed and if someone can add this as source, I will very thankfully - Palpo


keyboard and mouse

will the wii support a usb keyboard and mouse for browsing the internet?

They've not said anything about it and the manual doesn't mention anything so probably not. That said nobody has tried just plugging in a generic keyboard and mouse yet, so you never know. I reckon if it does happen it'll appear with a firmware update, and perhaps some official keyboard/mouse. Sockatume 16:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I tried plugging in a mouse. It didn't do anything. Hopefully they'll let at least a keyboard for the internet channel. Mouse would be nice too for the world wide web. By the way, I also tried plugging in my memory card reader to see if I could use my sony memory s tick with it (my SD card is in my cell phone and my cell phone is missing). Jecowa 05:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

North American release

The article says 4 million by the end of the year. Does anyone know how many in the U.S. for the launch? 72.187.97.84 16:34, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

"The majority" of the first 2m unit shipment is going to the US, apparently. So that's at least 1m. Japan's getting 400k so that leaves at most 600k to be distributed between Europe and Canada. It's reasonable to assume a similar distribution of units for the rest of the year. Sockatume 16:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I've heard around 1 million for U.S. launch also Tuesday42 16:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
It's 1 million for North America on launch day. 4 million worldwide by the endo of the year with about 2 million of those to North America. TJ Spyke 19:03, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

RGB output

It's pretty obvious from Nintendo's shipping of first-party RGB SCART cables that the Wii supports RGB SCART output, and it's stated as such in Nintendo's official magazine here in the UK, however my note to that effect was removed (along with some other technical detail) in this edit. Care to justify? Sockatume 17:27, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Ye olde tech specs

Yeah, the IGN numbers about the Wii's number crunching capability. Regardless of the fact that they are totally unofficial and Nintendo probably won't ever comment on them, they are nonetheless being published in print (e.g., PC Magazine) as the "official" numbers. So do we mention it? The official standard is verifiability not truth, and these numbers are certainly verifiable from sources both online and in print even if they're not true. --Stratadrake 23:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

There are pics of a disassembled Wii circulating already. It shouldn't be too difficult to track them down and get information on them based on the part numbers.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.6.0.159 (talk • contribs)
Links please.. And should we include a 'wii unscrewed' video in the external links when one becomes available (as it inevitable will).?
People at PopSci have already disassembled it and taken photos (see section below). The graphics chip is bigger than the CPU, but the code numbers aren't exactly exoteric. In reference to the tech specs, PopSci describes the Wii as "75% slower than the 360"[8], in other words, just under 50% the number crunching power. Whether that's based on the IGN numbers or not, I dunno. --Stratadrake 19:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Wii Chanels

trhe section on the Wii Chanels etc is gone, Was it removed for a reason?

Someone just didn't close a <ref> tag. Thanks for spotting it. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 13:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

UK Reviews

Not sure if the reveiews section wants it but the firs UK review that I'm aware of has been done in CVG. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=149383 , it got 10 if anyone's interested. BigHairRef | Talk 13:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Rumors and other release events

I, along with various other people, were told that there would a Gold Wii given away to one lucky person. This was at the Redmond, WA Game Crazy, which was apparently the official Release "party". GC employees just gave away old non-Wii Nintendo stuff, probably from Fusion Tour or E3. No special guests came. The only raffle was for a GBA Micro. They started selling Wiis at 12:01, but it took them an hour and a half just to get through forty people. There were already 300 people waiting line since noon, so they probably walked out by 5am.71.231.93.78 14:32, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

There were two official launch parties: Toys R Us in New York City (where Reggie sold the first Wii) and CityWalk in Los Angeles. There are no gold Wii's (unless someone spraypaints their Wii). TJ Spyke 23:06, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Wii Channels & Games available...

I'll leave the main page update to someone else, but here's the channels that are currently available in the US for WiiConnect24:

  • Disc Channel (Current game inserted into the unit),
  • Mii Channel
  • Photo Channel (if you have inserted an SD memory card from a camera - works with pictures and video, including puzzle games you can play with the video, slide show with the photos, etc. Actually, it's quite fun)
  • Wii Shop Channel (Features cheesy Zelda-style elevator music while shopping) Current games: F-Zero (Snes), Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis), Super Mario 64 (N64), Sim City (Unknown - most likely SNES version), The Legend of Zelda (NES) and Donkey Kong (Likely Arcade, unlikely Atari).
  • Wii Forecast Channel - Currently unavailable, as of 10:30 on November 19th, all internet updates applied.
  • Wii News Channel - Currently unavailable, as of 10:30 on November 19th, all internet updates applied.

I can go through the US systems menu if anyone's interested. But if anyone can confirm these details so far, and thinks it is worth the front page, they can post it. Most notable now is the unavailability of news or weather forecasts. Ryanfenton 17:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Left-handed people

How about the lefties? Wii can be use by both left and right-handed people, but lefties may find very uncomfrotable the use of the wii-mote in the right hand, i.e. to aim. And Nintendo seems to ignore this fact. Only a few games will be full left/right compatible. Link, Zelda's character, was always a lefty. In the Wii version he's right handed!

Actually they confirmed (lost the reference) that in Twilight Princess you'd be able to choose a left- or right-handed Link, probably because the decision to switch his handedness was made so late in development of the Wii version. No word on whether it'll be swappable for any other games though, I'm kind of hoping it'll go into the TRCs. It'd be weird to be using my left hand to aim Samus' right. Sockatume 16:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I haven't found any menu options for changing the on-screen handedness of Link. But you can easily swap which hands you hold the controllers in (Wii Remote and Nunchuck) - there is no inherent handedness to the controllers. Ryanfenton 17:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm a lefty myself, but I still mouse right-handed and thus won't have a problem with a right-handed Link. Still, we need a reliable source, and the game's manual makes no mention on this subject. --Stratadrake 19:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Even though I'm right-handed, I still want to play with left-handed Link because Link is left-handed. My sister is picking this up for me; I'll have it Wednesday night. If it has not already been determined by then, I'll be sure to tell you about it. Jecowa 22:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
FyiFoff 23:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC) they talked about this on Attack of the Show on the G4 network on TV, the major game designer of Ninetendo is a southpaw, they have a viewer Q and A about this. I'm sure there is something on there home page about it. You can even play the DS with your left hand, look at that "brain game", it ask you if you are left or right handed. FyiFoff FyiFoff 23:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I was playing Wii. You make a Mii, and your Mii is like your profile for the Wii. In Wii Sports you can choose to make your character left-handed or right-handed for the different games in Wii Sports (Tennis, Baseball [pitching and batting are separate], Bowling, Golf, Boxing). Hopefully the same will be true of Twilight Princess. Jecowa 23:55, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I have Wii. I have Twilight Princess. There is no option to change Link's main hand. It doesn't effect gameplay at all - they should have left link Left-handed. I'm left-handed and I don't care that he's right handed, only that he's not right handed. —Shanesan (contribs) (Talk) 03:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
You do know that there are more than 1 Link's? It's not the same Link in every Zelda game. Link is USUALLY not right handed. TJ Spyke 03:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Everyone is making a big deal out of Link's handedness, but the real travesty is that Heart Containers are broken into five pieces! I mean, how can they mess with such an important detail that we have grown to love??? A five-part heart container will NEVER be a true Heart Container, and that means Twilight Princess will NEVER be a true Zelda game!!! Sraan 06:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
lol Jecowa 06:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Please keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a forum for discussing the topic (referring to the two comments directly above mine). This a page for discussing changes and additions for the article. // Sasuke-kun27 20:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Yahoo has a page about the Wii. Should the link be included in this article? If you agree, please go ahead and put it in the external links. Also, shouldn't we break up section 8, External Links, into two subsections: Official and Unofficial Coverage? • s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk • November 19, 2006.

Shouldn't this link:
Xbox and Wii to Break Playstation Domination: Analyst
go under "Unofficial coverage" section? Also I would like to add a link:
Howstuffworks "How the Wii Works"
under "Unofficial coverage". --ADTC 13:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

In bits

Didn't take long - here is a link to pictures of a Wii disassembled http://www.popsci.com/popsci/whatsnew/2526081bfbcfe010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

Suitable for external links?

And for those still uncertain about the CPU maybe this will help http://www.popsci.com/popsci/whatsnew/2526081bfbcfe010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd/14.html

The CPU reads:

IBM Broadway 39X6735 IBM9316 BWYC-72914 06310636V 14 CANADA

Does anyone know if this info tells us what sort of power chip nintendo got.? Thanks

Broadway (microprocessor) is an article about Wii's microprocessor. • s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk • November 19, 2006.

Uses of SD cards

I don't know if this has been answered anywhere yet, but I've been wondering if anyone has a list of known uses for SD cards as it relates to the Wii. Eric42 22:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

One use of the SD card is to store additional downloads from the virtual console library. Moreover, please see Ryanfenton's comment above. • s d 3 1 4 1 5 talk • November 19, 2006.
Another use of the SD card: The Photo channel. There are two sources of photos that you can use in the photo channel - SD memory cards and the message board. Photos can be imported into the game from an SD card. You can do lots of things with photos, such as editing and making a slide show. Also the SD card serves as a memory card that can store game data. Go to "Wii Options" in the main menu, then "Data Managements," then "Save Date." GameCube saved game data must be stored on GameCube memory cards, but Wii saved game data can be stored on the 2163 blocks of internal memory or on a SD card. Just to give you and idea, Wii sports is currently taking up 2 blocks on my internal memory. Jecowa 04:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


Working list of known SD card uses (please add to this):

  1. Store your Virtual Console games
  2. Transfer photos to your Wii
  3. Store your Wii saved game data
  4. Play your MP3s in Excite Truck

Peru

In this article it says that it will be released on 19/11/06 but the real date is 10th December.Pepepe 22:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

23:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Wii Colors

Right now the Wii only comes in white, but pre launch showned other colors. Is there any truth, future color to be released or different colors in other countries? FyiFoff 23:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Many consoles do that, it's just to show what the console could look like in those colors. Nintendo has said no other colors are planned at the moment, although I think they will eventually release at least 1 other color. TJ Spyke 23:51, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, we do have Gamecubes and 64s in other colors. I guess it's just a matter of time.WilburBillyPatriciaWillie the Walrus-talk to me 18:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm guessing black will be first. Jecowa 19:53, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Updated Australian release list

PALGN has an updated Australian release list [9]. I haven't checked every single game, but at the very least, The Ant Bully is no longer a launch title. I was going to take it out of the launch table, but I didn't have the patience to figure out all the formatting in the table. So uh, yeah, someone who can do it should. Nova Prime 03:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Wii Sells 600k+ on day 1

According to this website [[10]] it currenly shows us a constant up to date report on how many units have been sold, remember, These figures keep on changing every few minutes, and remember they may not be 100% accurate— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dctcool (talk • contribs)

They are not accurate, not unless the Xbox 360 somehow managed to sell 3 million systems since the end of September. I wouldn't consider them reliable. TJ Spyke 04:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
3 Million? how did you pass math? the units sold at the end of September was 6 Million according to the 360's wiki page, and that page currently says that the 360 has currently sold 7 million units, which means they would have sold an Extra 1 million consoles more in about 8 weeks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.47.116.249 (talk • contribs)
why not just say the numbers shipped like with the psp and ps2 for now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tim curry (talk • contribs) .

Backwards Compatibility?

A quick question here:

The Wii console is backward compatible with all GameCube software and most peripherals.

So, obviously, "most peripherals" implies that, well, it's compatible with most peripherals... (duh)
But... the console isn't compatible with the modem adapter, broadband adapter, gameboy player, av cables, or ac adapter... That's 5 things.
It is compatible with the controllers and the memory cards. That's 2 things.
So, obviously, in order for it to be compatible with "most" gamecube peripherals, it must be so with at least 6 of them. (and this is assuming that composite, s-video, and component cables all count as the same single item) So... are there any others that it does work with? Or does that need to be reworded? Bladestorm 20:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Assumable it works with any special controllers - the bongos, the dance mat, any racing wheel that may or may not exist I forget. It also works with Freeloader, I hear, if that counts. Webrunner 21:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
The microphone. --Thaddius 21:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
What about it? // Sasuke-kun27 21:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Can you cite a page that says it works with this "Freeloader"? Also, happen to know if it works with whatever cheat devices worked with the Gamecube? (gameshark? pro action replay? what are the youngin's using these days?) If both do, then that's definitely "most" peripherals that are compatible with the wii (when you count the microphone, bongos, etc). If not, then most do not, and it should be reworded. (of course, I figure, for now, it won't hurt to leave as-is, but somebody really should check up on that) Bladestorm 23:06, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I have talked to people online (who I do trust and they are reliable) who have tested the Freeloader and Action Replay, and both work. I can't cite them though since messageboards aren't allowed for citing. TJ Spyke 23:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
The only freeloader I know and have at home for GameCube is just a simple disc with software on it used in order to play japanese and american (as I am from europe) import games. As it is only software I recon it should be useable with the WII. Dunno in which way the freeloader gets around the PAL restriction, but if it is just something like flagging the game as PAL (which I suppose, as you just insert the disc, load it, then eject and insert the JAP/US game disc) it should definately work. Aetherfukz 23:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, message boards might not be directly citable, but for the sake of something like this, I'd say that's good enough. Consider my objection... uh... abandoned? rescinded? meh. you get the idea. Bladestorm 23:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

"Most peripherals" is ambiguous in that it could mean peripherals by type or peripherals by the population (or rather, the amount in existence). If considering the latter, most of the peripherals out there are probably controllers and memory cards, not other items such as networking adapters. --Trakon 23:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Please, please, please show me where you heard Freeloader works with the Wii! The reason I ask is that I a) very much enjoy the couple of japanese GCN games I have, and b) have Freeloader and have tried it a couple of times already, and have gotten Disc Read Errors consistantly (also the case with japanese GCN games). I have tested legitimate, NA region GCN games and they work, as well as all my normal Wii games. This isn't just a matter of verification, but I would like to know as many details about the working attempts as possible to compare. --Author X 14:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Non official priceing

Should I add the non official danish prices, that have been told from the guys in EB?

All prices are in DKK

Wii: 2.199,- Wiimote: 449,- Nunchuck: 279,- Wii Play: 549,- Zelda: around 549,- Other Games: around 499,-

My scource: [11]

I'm new, so please tell what should be done. (And email me if you add the prices :-) ) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cmol (talk • contribs) .

No. If they're unofficial, what's the point. Unless someone can come up with a reason to add them to the article, I see no point in doing so. // Sasuke-kun27 23:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Heads Up for Pictures

Just giving a heads up that I'll be taking some very nice pictures of the system and all of the accessories for the article. BlueMint 23:34, 20 November 2006

No need, I said I would do it and I will tonight. TJ Spyke 23:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Really? Where? BlueMint 23:39, 20 November 2006 (MT)
Right here: Talk:Wii/archive16#Controller Photo. I would have done it yesterday but my camera wasn't working. TJ Spyke 23:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, lets see who gets 'em up first. BlueMint 17:30, 20 November 2006 (MT)

Interesting, really, but I say it's still not stable enough information.

I don't think we should add the specs just yet. Nintendo, IBM, and ATI still haven't said anything themselves.

  • Under the RAM amounts, the link sourcing 1T-SRAM goes to a website describing how Linksys' 1T-SRAM is going to be featured in the product. No actual amount was given.
  • Under the RAM amounts, once again, the link sourcing the inclusion of GDDR3 RAM only links to a site describing the RAM, absolutely nothing Nintendo-related was mentioned.
  • We've already ruled out IGN as an unstable source at the moment, since they never mention exactly where or who they got the specs from.
  • In USA Today's interview with Nintendo, they never asked Nintendo about the specs, and never mentioned where they got the spec info from.

I'm going to keep the specs as they were earlier (unknown), for now. The Captain Returns 02:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

The RAM information at least is 100% confirmed. The link to the GDDR3 RAM site has the same part number as the picture of the RAM that was put up; that's why it constitutes a reference. As for the 24MB 1T-SRAM, this is just the same type and amount of RAM that was used in the Gamecube so it makes perfect sense (considering the 100% backwards compatibility) that it would show up again in the Wii. So I've put the RAM information back.
As for the clock speeds, well Nintendo doesn't want to release this information because it makes the Wii look bad, so we may never get official confirmation. Developers have access to this information but when they leak it they do so anonymously because they're under NDA. But look, these same 729Mhz/243Mhz numbers showed up in two independent sources are probably not copying from each other. This kind of thing is considered strong evidence usually. 729Mhz is also exactly 1.5 times the Gamecube clock and the number "729" is written on the Broadway chip, giving more circumstantial evidence that it's correct. I'm not sure how much evidence you feel we need here. For now I've put the information back with the qualifier "reportedly"; I guess if you're really unhappy with it you can remove it again and I won't revert, but given the preponderance of evidence I'm pretty sure it will end up in the article eventually and it might as well be now. Redquark 14:32, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
doesn't the fact that 729 is exactly 1.5 times 485 make it more likely that some idle tosspot just multiplied 485 time 1.5 and posted it to ign?
Perhaps, but as a matter of fact motherboard clock speed changes often work in neat multipliers. You have an oscillator crystal running at a certain rate, and you put it through a little device that outputs 3 pulses for every 1 or something. In Gamecube backwards compatibility mode, the Broadway would need to run at 485Mhz, so it makes sense that the native Wii clockspeed would be a neat multiple of that. Redquark 17:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Point taken but 2 times would be a neat multiplier, 1.5 times no so easy to do? As for back-compat - yes maybe - but if the cpu is faster it could run and finish it's task ealier on in each 1/50sec (or 1/60sec) frame.
I asked whether anyone could interpret these numbers on the cpu :

IBM Broadway 39X6735 IBM9316 BWYC-72914 06310636V 14 CANADA http://www.popsci.com/popsci/whatsnew/2526081bfbcfe010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd/14.html

Now seems like a good time to ask again.87.102.16.174 18:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Considering that the evidence is unbelievably tilted towards this being true, I guess it should stay. Peace. The Captain Returns 01:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

670,000 or so units sold

While nexgenwars.com is an awful unreliable site, TGDaily is one. The fact that they are publishing the numbers give reliability to the source, even if they consider it unreliable still. We have had this discussion with VGCharts in the best selling article. In other words, it is correct to add a link to tgdaily.com for the approximate sold numbers, but it is not to add a link to nexgenwars.com, even if both have the same information or even if tgdaily.com has a link to nexgenwars.com -- ReyBrujo 05:08, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

The TGDaily article even says "At least if we believe NexGen wars", which means they are not saying that NexGenWars is right and they are just saying what that site says. It's the same way sites like GameSpot and IGN sometimes report rumors posted by other sites. TJ Spyke 05:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, and they are publishing it, thus backing the article up (even if they don't back their source). Wikipedia:Verifiability states that our threshold is verifiability, not truth. Do we have a reliable source? Yes, TGDaily certainly is. Can we verify the information? Yes, the link is there, they give the number and even the source. Do we believe nexgenwars.com? No. But the fact that they (TGD) is backing the article up (it is in their site) is enough for us. It is just the same with all those analysts speculation that are usually pretty off. In this case, nexgenwars.com could be a pretty awful place ran by a 13 year old Flash programmer, but we are not including the unreliable source, we are including the reliable one. This is a common mistake we do at Wikipedia: analyze the article, and wonder whether the sources the site used to create are reliable or not. We are not required to determine if nexgenwars.com is a reliable site. We are required to see if TGD is one. And since it is, we can include the information. -- ReyBrujo 05:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Is TGDaily a reliable source either? To be honest, i've never heard of them before today and i've never seen them mentioned anywhere. TJ Spyke 05:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
It is part of Tom's Hardware Guide network, and one of the 10,000 most visited sites in Internet. However, I will give you the fact that it is pretty hard to find other sites that had quoted them, as most quote Tom's Hardware site directly. I remember it appeared in Next Generation (I discovered it that way), but may have to dig some in order to get more references... since it is already too late, I will leave this option for people wanting to add the information in the article: prove TGD notability to include that link :-) -- ReyBrujo 05:47, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
It's way too early to have any North American launch figures for the Wii or the PS3, NPD releases that data a month after the launches. The only way I could see that we should add North American launch figures before NPD's data gets released is if Nintendo or Sony themselves make a press release that they have sold such and such units at launch. Anything other than that is just conjecture. Dionyseus 05:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
just say the numbers shipped like on the psp page
Oh, and the guy who runs NexGenwars is 18 years old. He somehow manages to get all this magical sales data all by himself. Amazing, isn't it? source (scroll down for a 'yay, birthday' post) --King Nintendoid 20:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

also i found this site http://www.playfuls.com/news_05259_Nintendo_Wii_Sells_Out_In_North_America_And_Canada.html

Firmware updates break the wii -- "Blocks"

[12]

Soo, yeah. This isn't really conclusive yet, i don't think, since it came from one website that i know of. If you are going to add it, please find at least one or two seperate news agencies for sources. Also, let's keep it POV-free, ok? dposse 18:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I've found two more sources but I seem not quite to have got the hang of the formatting mode for it. The URLs are viewable in edit section bu I can't quite work out how to sort out the cites.BigHairRef | Talk 19:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
If this is included, it is definately worth noting that you can back up game saves on an SD card, as well as entire Virtual Console games. Never mind, I just realized while typing this that you need the update to use the SD card, and now feel quite silly. Well, at the very least, you can save your Mii's like rats from a sinking ship on your wiimote. --Author X 21:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
From what I've heard/experienced, there are two updates -- the first one lets you use the SD card, and the second is the one that's been "breaking" things. Detailed blog entry with pics, via kotaku -Lhall 01:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Please don't quote everything in articles, as that can be considered copyright violation. Also, this is not a gaming forum. Just link to the article and make a note about its content. Thanks! -- ReyBrujo 21:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, i didn't realize that infomation and the news was copyrighted. dposse 00:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I had my Wii hooked up by 8:30am on Sunday morning and got 2 updates as far as I could tell. On Monday I used my cameras SD card to transfer monkeyball and trauma center save files to my roomates Wii... It worked just fine. I have been on my Wii all day until just now when I found this article on Digg. I haven't received a firmware update yet but should I not do it? Or does this story simply have no merit? --24.231.203.166 10:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Wii Startup Disc

Did anyone ever find out about what it is?Cocopopz2005 04:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Probably what the firmware upgrades you have to download now (SD support and online access). TJ Spyke 04:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Will the problems with updates and stuff be fixed by the time pal territories get it? (early december). Any idea if a disc will be shipped along as well with some other updates? I heard reports of pplz wii's have stopped working.. That scares me! Cocopopz2005 04:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

It's only a very small number of Wii's having problems, and it's the systems themselves (not the updates) that are the problem. I downloaded the updates and haven't had any problems. TJ Spyke 04:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

So these should be ironed out by the PAL release - meaning that there should be no real problems? Cocopopz2005 04:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Shortened

Yep. WAY too long. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ASHTONZANECKI (talk • contribs)

Model Numbers and model changes.

The console model does change or at least the number. Small differences in manufacturing process and different components make the console units different. I'd like to see a list of console models, when they were released and what the changes might have been.

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