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Meaninf of semitic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people
A member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.
My argument is simple, how can the word antisemitism be used as anti Jewish, when the definition of the word Semite/Semitic describes a group of people speaking a language. so if the you add the "Anti" t Semitic it must mean a group of people who do not speak a particular language. This page is inaccurate and 141.0.147.90 (talk) 10:10, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- NO. This has been discussed exhaustively, several times. And every time, the consensus has been to recognise that the term antisemitism, while its etymology may be challenged, means. and has always meant, racism directed against Jews. There is a link above to the archives where these discussions are stored. RolandR (talk) 12:33, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- 'racism directed against Jews' hardly makes sense since the jews aren't a race. 31.48.245.78 (talk) 21:31, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
Wrong definition?
Antisemitism [...] is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews. That seems plausible if 'semite' mean 'jew', but it doesn't does it? 31.48.245.78 (talk) 21:29, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- Yawn. "Antisemitism" means antagonism towards Jews. It doesn't matter other than etymologically what "semite" means in isolation. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 21:42, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
Content disputes are not vandalism
@RolandR, Fidelioas, and Île flottante: Content disputes are not vandalism. Unfounded accusations of vandalism constitute personal attacks. Please work this out here on the talk page, not edit summaries. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 20:02, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- this has already been raised. Making an extra post is spam/superfluous to utility. In any case I still disagree with the original edit. Île flottante (talk) 00:19, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Île flottante, I raised this on your talk page as a behavioural issue. The talk page of the article is the correct place to discuss content disputes. In terms of the content dispute, I'm in favour of removal. It's not exactly the most illustrative image, and I think the section has enough images as it is. Cjhard (talk) 01:20, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Using terms like ‘behavioural issue’ really isn’t conducive to a good discussion. It implies you think you’re perhaps my teacher with a right to discipline me, which is extremely patronising and also quite plainly wrong. Given, however, that other editors disagree with me on this, I withdraw my objection to the original edit. Île flottante (talk) 22:28, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, and please desist from false accusations of vandalism; WP:NPA matters. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 00:34, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- Using terms like ‘behavioural issue’ really isn’t conducive to a good discussion. It implies you think you’re perhaps my teacher with a right to discipline me, which is extremely patronising and also quite plainly wrong. Given, however, that other editors disagree with me on this, I withdraw my objection to the original edit. Île flottante (talk) 22:28, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Île flottante, I raised this on your talk page as a behavioural issue. The talk page of the article is the correct place to discuss content disputes. In terms of the content dispute, I'm in favour of removal. It's not exactly the most illustrative image, and I think the section has enough images as it is. Cjhard (talk) 01:20, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Suggested edit to the section on the 21st century situation
This sentence seems clumsy to me and needs punctuation and rephrasing:
"In Eastern Europe the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the instability of the new states has brought the rise of nationalist movements and the accusation against Jews for the economic crisis, taking over the local economy and bribing the government alongside with traditional and religious motives for antisemitism such as blood libels".
My suggestion is this:
"In Eastern Europe the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the instability of the new states has brought the rise of nationalist movements and accusations against Jews of responsibility for the economic crisis, of taking over the local economy and of bribing the government, along with traditional and religious motives for antisemitism (such as blood libels)".
I don't want to make the edit myself in case I have changed the sense in the wrong way.truthordare (talk) 17:01, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
- Try splitting it into two or more sentences. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 18:19, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
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X - Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews and Arabs.
Y- Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.
The definition above is incorrect - Semites are members of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs. - The current text states that it's just Jewish people, this is incorrect and could be construed as targeting.
Change X for Y Warpeye (talk) 16:12, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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template. This has been discussed here multiple times. See the page archives, links are above. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:25, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
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Change “ Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews.[1][2][3] “ to “ Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jewish, Arabic, Amharic, Tigrignia, Tigre peoples.” Sam Seeking Insight (talk) 01:13, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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