Talk:Anne, Queen of Great Britain

Kudos, regular article editors

A pleasure to read and review this article for classroom use, in anticipation of the interest that The Favourite will engender. Very nicely done in most all aspects, many thanks to the regular contributing editors. Moreover, it seems significantly trustworthy, given the apparent thorough sourcing. (No checking done, hence the apparent.)

Would ask for the continued updating of the article, as much of the historical work cited is 15 years old, or older. And—should one wish a thankless WP task—perhaps, for sake of scholarship, one might ask that the article provide inline citations for all information drawn from the old Britannica article that appears in the bibliography. [Understood, this is an extraordinary request, as almost all cases where this public domain content is used in WP, it is used without inline citations, contrary to academic standards with regard to the lifting/plagiarism of content. But this article is on its way toward being extraordinary (better than a GA), so why not "pull out the stops"?] But again, brava, bravo, regular editors. 2601:246:CA80:3CB5:1DFE:9D32:88DD:352 (talk) 16:28, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

As a queen Anne had two female lovers. First Sarah Churchill, second Abigail Masham, born Hill. These women where called the queen her 'favorites' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.10.141.230 (talk) 08:59, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 29 December 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) CThomas³ (talk) 22:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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• Anne, Queen of Great Britain → Queen Anne
• Queen Anne → Queen Anne (disambiguation)

– This was discussed over 2 and a half years ago with no change. I believe it is clear that it should be replaced as the clear majority searching Queen Anne are looking for this page. It was suggested that people could be looking for Anne Boleyn, however as pointed out she is almost universally known by her last name. I just think it makes more sense to change it as she is by far the most relevant Queen Anne, earlier this year Henry VII's page was similarly changed, and 'Queen Anne' already directs here. Jasp7676 (talk) 20:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. —Nnadigoodluck███ 22:38, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Note: Queen Anne titles a dab page with significant content and so is ineligible to be moved to unless it is also proposed to be be renamed. This request has been altered to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 03:03, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. There are other Queen Annes and the disambiguating clause is more precise. The primary use argument is weakened by considering that the Tudor Queen Anne is more popular in page views[1]. DrKay (talk) 22:22, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
• Please note Wikipedia:Requested moves#Request all associated moves explicitly. The move of the disambiguation page also needs to be listed here. DrKay (talk) 22:30, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

To editor DrKay:  done, and Happy New Year to all! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. ^put'r there 03:17, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

• but surely you can agree that Anne Boleyn is very rarely referred to as Queen Anne and her surname is usually used? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasp7676 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

• You either refer to her as Anne Boleyn or Queen Anne, not 'Queen Anne Boleyn'. That term is technically incorrect. Thus, it is safe to assume that Queen Anne can refer to both Anne Stuart and Anne Boleyn and the argument that DrKay made is valid. Not to mention that there dozens of other queens who were also named Anne. Keivan.f^Talk 00:47, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

• I understand that no one says Queen Anne Boleyn but it is also true that very few people say Queen Anne when referring to Anne Boleyn, they simply say Anne Boleyn. I think this is necessary since Queen Anne is the most famous Anne by far and the page directs to her anyway. Jasp7676 (talk) 01:24, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose first, neutral on second (i.e., a primary redirect). Srnec (talk) 17:25, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, as she is clearly the primary topic for this title on the English Wikipedia; per WP:COMMONNAME, as she is most commonly known in English as "Queen Anne"; and per WP:CONSISTENT, for consistency with the Queen Victoria article title and with all the other British monarchs articles that have been moved to their common name without disambiguation. Even if the main article ultimately isn't moved, the disambig page should be moved and "Queen Anne" should redirect here per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:16, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. There are other Queen Annes. Dimadick (talk) 17:26, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. There are other Queen Annes. This goes against the guidelines in WP:SOVEREIGN. Walrasiad (talk) 21:59, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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Merging of titles of infobox

I think the titles of the infobox should follow that of George III, as in keeping “Queen of England, Scotland, and Ireland” and adding a footnote describing that from 1707 she was Queen of Great Britain and Ireland, thereby condensing her offices in the infoboxes. AKTC3 (talk) 21:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

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Possible move change and names

Although I don't plan on starting a discussion in the near future, I do believe the page's name could change. A few things that need to be taken into account are that Anne's page name follows the structure of "Anne, Queen of X". Although by no means the only important thing to note, Google Searches are telling. Following said structure here are the results:

1. "Anne, Queen of England" has 70.500 results
2. "Anne, Queen of Great Britain" has 63.800 results
3. "Anne, Queen of Scotland" has 24.500 results
4. "Anne, Queen of Ireland" provides only 4 results

It's clear that changing the page's name to "Queen of Ireland" would simply not work, and "Queen of Scotland" add confusion with Anne of Denmark, wife of James VI and I. In fact, these two searches don't even identify Queen Anne as the person being searched. Although "Queen of England" does bring up more results than "Queen of Great Britain", this isn't always the case, and given she spent longer as Queen of Great Britain, it makes sense for this to remain the page's name.

However, looking at the following Google Search results:

1. "Queen Anne of England" has 318.000 results
2. "Queen Anne of Great Britain" has 217.000 results
3. "Queen Anne of Scotland" has 149.000 results
4. "Queen Anne of Ireland" has 8 results

It's clear that following the "Queen Anne of X" is far more recognizeable than "Anne, Queen of X". Moreover, if one looks at things like biographies of her, she is always referred to simply as "Queen Anne". Granted, as there have been many women named Anne to hold the title of queen - both queen consorts and regnants - it is understandable that there would be hesitancy to make Anne Stuart the primary topic. Especially when some of the other "Queen Annes" may be more popular than this Queen Anne is; whether in google searches or pageviews here on Wikipedia.

However, what is clear is that almost any discussion of Anne of Great Britain places her title as Queen before her name. Like her, we have "Queen Victoria", rather than "Victoria, Queen of the United Kingdom". Taking this into account, I would argue that if the page name were to ever change, it should follow the structure of "Queen Anne of X", rather than the present one. PanagiotisZois (talk) 12:23, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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Requested move 15 February 2024

Anne, Queen of Great Britain → Queen Anne – "Queen Anne" is by far the most common way to refer to her. Yes, there were other Queen Annes, but they were either only consorts (i.e. Anne Boleyn) or they were obscure leaders of non-Anglophone countries. In English, the British monarchy is by far the most commonly discussed monarchy, so on English Wikipedia, it's entirely appropriate for the only Queen regnant named Anne to be "Queen Anne". "Anne, Queen of Great Britain" gets me 67,400 google results. "Queen Anne" gets me 28,000,000. She was also not just the Queen of Great Britain, she was also Queen of Ireland (and Queen of England and Scotland up until 1707), so let's ditch this inaccurate, awkward, uncommon title in favor of the more common and accurate way of referring to her. DieOuTransvaal (talk) 23:24, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment isn't "Queen" in front used for consorts, i.e. Queen Camilla, and queen regents are with the country format, i.e. Mary of Teck? cookie monster 755 23:51, 15 February 2024 (UTC)