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During Muhammad's life, Jews lived on the [[Arabian Peninsula]], especially in and around [[Medina]]. Muhammad is known to have had a Jewish wife, [[Safiyya bint Huyayy]], who subsequently converted to Islam.<ref>Ibn Saad, al-Tabaqat, pp.120-123.</ref> Safiyya, who was previously the wife of [[Kenana ibn al-Rabi]],<ref>Ibn Hisham. Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya (The Life of The Prophet). English translation in Guillame (1955), pp. 145–146</ref> was selected by Muhammad as his bride after the [[Battle of Khaybar]].<ref>[http://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/251 Sahih Bukhari Vol. 5, Book 59, Hadith 522]</ref>
During Muhammad's life, Jews lived on the [[Arabian Peninsula]], especially in and around [[Medina]]. Muhammad is known to have had a Jewish wife, [[Safiyya bint Huyayy]], who subsequently converted to Islam.<ref>Ibn Saad, al-Tabaqat, pp.120-123.</ref> Safiyya, who was previously the wife of [[Kenana ibn al-Rabi]],<ref>Ibn Hisham. Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya (The Life of The Prophet). English translation in Guillame (1955), pp. 145–146</ref> was selected by Muhammad as his bride after the [[Battle of Khaybar]].<ref>[http://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/251 Sahih Bukhari Vol. 5, Book 59, Hadith 522]</ref>
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* This original research was re-added by {{u|Debresser}}.--[[User:SharabSalam|<span style="color:#8D056C ">SharʿabSalam▼</span>]] ([[User talk:SharabSalam|talk]]) 14:02, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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"Stop hand.svg We know that the Semites include Arabs."

So why continue to peddle this incorrect usage? Anti-Jewishness is a more appropriate term, which is both accurate and sensitive to the matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.51.160.174 (talk) 13:49, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 January 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Antisemitism in Islam per consensus.  samee  converse  22:29, 16 January 2019 (UTC) (non-admin closure)  samee  converse  22:29, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Islam and antisemitism → Islamic antisemitism – "Per WP:AND, avoid the use of "and" in article titles in ways that may appear biased"; also WP:PRECISE. See related RM for Christianity and antisemitism. buidhe (formerly Catrìona) 14:55, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. The existence of Islamic antisemitism is not denied (except by hardcore deniers) - and does not imply that all Muslims are antisemitic.Icewhiz (talk) 15:45, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Note - I am fine with Antisemitism in Islam as well. Icewhiz (talk) 10:05, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The title should be in sync with the content of the article. The article isn't solely about Islamic antisemitism. The article is about the relationship between Islam and antisemitism, which includes Islamic antisemitism, of course, but also other issues, such as the question of whether Muslim rulers' treatment of Jews was antisemitism. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 16:05, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support and I would also support a move to Antisemitism in Islam as well if scope concerns exist. feminist (talk) 04:49, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support this is the proper scope of the article. As a self-proclaimed successor faith to Judaism, just like Christianity, Islamic thought has been full of polemic, including rather violent polemic, against those semi-barbarians who did not "update" their beliefs to the superior latest "upgrade". Again like the Christian case, Islamic history is also full of theologically justified persecutions of Jews, as Maimonides could tell you. This concerns Islam (like Christianity) as a realized system -- not specifically the scripture, and certainly Muslims as a group. --Calthinus (talk) 01:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose; Move to Antisemitism in Islam. Rreagan007 (talk) 02:12, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Imo this is more of a thorny case as moving to that could imply a bit of an anti-Muslim POV, depending on interpretation, as it could be read to imply that antisemitism is an integral part of Islam. --Calthinus (talk) 02:59, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Antisemitism in Islam seems better from that pov, no? Johnbod (talk) 16:15, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Johnbod: not to me at least, i.e. "Islamic antisemitism" is antisemitism in Islamic societies or using Islamic justification; "Antisemitism in Islam" would imply antisemitism is a part of Islam.--Calthinus (talk) 15:05, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Shiekh Iyhab Bayan

There are thousands of "sheikhs" throughout the Middle East and we should require some degree of notability before the opinion of one of them deserves mention. Such as being notable enough for reliable mentions on multiple occasions or, if you like, notable enough for a Wikipedia article. As far as I can tell "Iyhab Bayan" is entirely unknown except for one nefarious sermon that MEMRI (itself a nefarious organization) allegedly obtained. It is not enough to pass WP:WEIGHT; see also WP:ATTACK. Zerotalk 23:51, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Original research

None of the sources here talks about anti-semitism. WP:OR says This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources.

During Muhammad's life, Jews lived on the Arabian Peninsula, especially in and around Medina. Muhammad is known to have had a Jewish wife, Safiyya bint Huyayy, who subsequently converted to Islam.[1] Safiyya, who was previously the wife of Kenana ibn al-Rabi,[2] was selected by Muhammad as his bride after the Battle of Khaybar.[3]

References

  1. ^ Ibn Saad, al-Tabaqat, pp.120-123.
  2. ^ Ibn Hisham. Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya (The Life of The Prophet). English translation in Guillame (1955), pp. 145–146
  3. ^ Sahih Bukhari Vol. 5, Book 59, Hadith 522
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