Talk:Charles Darwin

Gertrude Himmelfarb's "Darwin and the Darwinian Revolution"

It's interesting (but not surprising given the attitude towards evolutionary theory here on Wikipedia) that the book with perhaps the most extensive research on Charles Darwin's religious views is not even mentioned in the article. She notes that Darwin's father was a secret unbeliever and that, in a passage deleted from Darwin's autobiography, Darwin refused to believe in Christianity, "Citing the 'damnable doctrine' that would condemn all disbelievers to eternal punishment, he protested that 'this would include my Father, Brother, and almost all my best friends'-which made it an unthinkable, to say nothing of thoroughly immoral, idea. There may be more sophisticated reasons for disbelief, but there could hardly have been a more persuasive emotional one." Gertrude Himmelfarb "Darwin and the Darwinian Revolution" p.22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritashistorica (talk • contribs) 03:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Please sign your posts, and WP:assume good faith as required by WP policy. This is a specific detail, which is shown in context in Religious views of Charles Darwin#Discussions with Emma. The passage is included in CD's full autobiography, which notes that '1 Mrs. Darwin annotated this passage (from "and have never since doubted"…. to "damnable doctrine") in her own handwriting. She writes:—"I should dislike the passage in brackets to be published. It seems to me raw. Nothing can be said too severe upon the doctrine of everlasting punishment for disbelief—but very few now wd. call that 'Christianity,' (tho' the words are there.) There is the question of verbal inspiration comes in too. E. D." Oct. 1882. This was written six months after her husband's death, in a second copy of the Autobiography in Francis's handwriting. The passage was not published. See Introduction.—N. B.' (Nora Barlow). Your "secret unbeliever" stuff looks to be unsourced synthesis or original research, and taking a few words out of context is inappropriate in this overview page. . . dave souza, talk 11:51, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

I have an issue with the image in the info box

The image of Charles Darwin in the info box isn’t how he usually is depicted. Why not use a more recognizable image of him, what was wrong with pictures of him having a beard. Also Wikimedia already has images of him with a beard.CycoMa (talk) 07:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

This was a deliberate choice, fully discussed among editors, and validated by detailed community assessment which made this a featured article. It shows Darwin's appearance when he'd achieved international fame for The Voyage of the Beagle and On the Origin of Species (1859), before the bearded stereotype began in 1866. This article is largely focussed on the earlier period, but also covers his later years and in these sections has five portraits and three caricatures of Darwin. . . dave souza, talk 09:12, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

But doesn’t Wikipedia select the most recognizable images of a person on their articles? I mean it makes more sense to have the bearded Charles Darwin. CycoMa (talk) 09:14, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

That's not a really strong reason to replace an image which, according to the caption, shows Darwin in 1854 when he was preparing On the Origin of Species for publication. According to the caption on the bearded image later in the article, he grew a bushy beard between 1862 and 1866 which has no particular reason to be highlighted. Johnuniq (talk) 09:16, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

The reason dave souza wasn’t a very good reason either. CycoMa (talk) 09:28, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Numerous editors have thought these good reasons, the stereotype is misleading if used to headline his achievements predating the bushy beard which only appeared in public in 1866. In my view the current image, as used in the featured article version, works best. . . dave souza, talk 09:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2021

I would like to edit the Charles Darwin page and add some interesting information and hope you will like it. Thank you. Dinu W. 112.134.165.210 (talk) 13:01, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

The main content: Voyage of the HMS Beagle

Not done. This is not a "complete and specific description of the request". NightHeron (talk) 13:45, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Why isn't this mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia?

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55769269 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.166.139.141 (talk) 08:06, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Per WP:UNDUE; see earlier discussion [1]. NightHeron (talk) 09:45, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

WP:URFA/2020

Dave souza this is the rare 2006 FA that has apparently been constantly tended and watched and is still in very good shape. Some notes for the FA sweeps at URFA/2020:

• I have adjusted for MOS:SANDWICH throughout; hope my edits are acceptable.
• There are some Harv Ref errors (see )
  • Anonymous (1893). "CHARLES ROBERT DARWIN (Obituary Notice, Friday, April 21, 1882)". Eminent Persons; Biographies reprinted from The Times. III (1882–1886). London and New York: Macmillan and Co & The Times Office. pp. 1–11. Retrieved 12 February 2019 – via Internet Archive. Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFAnonymous1893.
  • Darwin, Charles (1839). Narrative of the surveying voyages of His Majesty's Ships Adventure and Beagle between the years 1826 and 1836, describing their examination of the southern shores of South America, and the Beagle's circumnavigation of the globe. Journal and remarks. 1832–1836. III. London: Henry Colburn. Archived from the original on 21 July 2012. Retrieved 24 October 2008. Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFDarwin1839.
  • Darwin, Charles; Wallace, Alfred Russel (1858). "On the Tendency of Species to form Varieties; and on the Perpetuation of Varieties and Species by Natural Means of Selection". Journal of the Proceedings of the Linnean Society of London. Zoology 3. 3 (9): 46–50. doi:10.1111/j.1096-3642.1858.tb02500.x. Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFDarwinWallace1858.
  • Darwin, Charles (1868). The Variation of Animals and Plants Under Domestication. London: John Murray. ISBN 978-1-4191-8660-8. Archived from the original on 30 January 2011. Retrieved 1 November 2008. Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFDarwin1868.
• A check for use of also might be in order; (see User:Tony1/How to improve your writing on redundancy reducing).
• There is considerable MOS:OVERLINK, but whether duplicate links are needed is always a judgment call. User:Evad37/duplinks-alt will help identify to evaluate.

I am not sure who else might evaluate this older FA towards marking it "Satisfactory" at WP:URFA/2020, but by putting this note there, we might get that ball rolling. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:18, 30 November 2021 (UTC)