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The info box already points out that it is head quartered in the US. There is no need to add misleading information to the lead paragraph. To imply that the company completely American could be misinterpreted by the average reader. I myself will admit, before this discussion, I thought the company was American. But hearing other editors views and explanations, I realise it is not as cut/dry as that and there are other factors involved. Therefore, I am happy to leave it as Multinational. Unless other editors gets involved in this, I consider the matter on my part closed. <span style="border:2px solid black;margin-top:2px;bottom:2px;font- verdana;background:#FF8000" > [[User:MisterShiney|<font color="black">'''MisterShiney'''</font>]] [[User talk:MisterShiney|<font color="Red">'''<big>✉</big>'''</font>]]</span> 17:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
The info box already points out that it is head quartered in the US. There is no need to add misleading information to the lead paragraph. To imply that the company completely American could be misinterpreted by the average reader. I myself will admit, before this discussion, I thought the company was American. But hearing other editors views and explanations, I realise it is not as cut/dry as that and there are other factors involved. Therefore, I am happy to leave it as Multinational. Unless other editors gets involved in this, I consider the matter on my part closed. <span style="border:2px solid black;margin-top:2px;bottom:2px;font- verdana;background:#FF8000" > [[User:MisterShiney|<font color="black">'''MisterShiney'''</font>]] [[User talk:MisterShiney|<font color="Red">'''<big>✉</big>'''</font>]]</span> 17:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

If we put ''American'' in the article, then everybody will think that Rockstar Games as a whole is American, and that is a fact!
Also Rockstar North, Rockstar Lincoln, Rockstar London and Rockstar Leeds is based in the UK, i continue.. Sam Houser and Dan Houser is British, and it was them who started DMA (Now Rockstar North), and it was them who founded Rockstar Games (Known as Rockstar NYC) to be a umbrella for the rest of the studios, R* North, R* Leeds, R* San Diego... so on... So putting in American in the article like this '''"Rockstar Games is an American Video game developer"''' would be misleading as MisterShiney says, but doing it like this '''"Rockstar Games (Also known as Rockstar NYC), is based in New York, United states and works as an umbrella for the rest of the Rockstar studios"''' would in return put it more clear.. But again I don't realy see a need for that as the article already clearly says it in an simple way...
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Evel Knievel

I'm not much good at editing Wikipedia pages, but I noticed that the game "Evel Knievel" for the Game Boy Color is omitted in this page. This is also a Rockstar game. I think someone should add it to the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.146.120.126 (talk) 09:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unannounced games

People need to stop adding "Grand Theft Auto V", "Manhunt 3", and "Bully 2" to the list of games. None of these games have been announced and thus DO NOT belong in the page. 98.207.148.253 (talk) 02:49, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As of this posting (January 29th, 2011) Max Payne 3 is listed in the Social Club as "Coming Soon". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.80.131.99 (talk) 17:35, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rockstar Bogota?

Is this an actual studio under development by Rockstar Games? I would really appreciate a link to this claim. I cannot seem to find anything on any major gaming websites and doing a Google Search for "Rockstar Bogota" yields no official results. 144.131.28.246 (talk) 06:55, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was registered along with GTA: Tokyo by Rockstar Games before the announcement of GTAIV. There have been rumors that it was merely to throw fans off so as to keep the true location of GTAIV, the fictional 'Liberty City', a secret. But this is just speculation. Either way, no official announcement has been made by Rockstar Games, so Bogota and Tokyo don't belong in this article. F4M !! 22:30, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Look at the top-right of the official website. They aren't studios, they're regional offices.

Bully 2? Sources?

Was this officially announced, or even hinted at? And also who ever added it, didn't add it correctly (I would fix it, but I don't know if it should be there to start with)... DTHCND (talk) 04:19, 11 October 2010 (EST)

Nationality of Rockstar

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

{{Request edit}}

Hi,

I tried to add that Rockstar Games is a major 'British' games developer and publisher based in New York City.

The official European Rockstar website has it down as British,"Rockstar Games is a major British video game developer and publisher based in New York City, owned by Take-Two Interactive"


source... http://rockstarspot.eu/r-studios/


In Britain the British media,government,news all say its British,its even been hailed as a British icon,often features on the news and they are very proud of it being British.

Everytime i try to add the fact its British it gets vandalized. Would you be able to add its British with my source/link beside it to verify this fact please. maybe semi lock the page also.

Thank You!

I've been watching this edit war from the sidelines for a while, but I haven't taken the time to research the answer myself. However, I can tell you that rockstarspot.eu is definitely not an official site. Why can't we just remove the word "British/American" altogether? Is it really worth the time to be fighting over this? --Iritscen (talk) 18:39, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As Iritscen mentioned above, rockstarspot.eu is not an official Rockstar website, it is a fansite/blog. Regarding the British angle: Its Rockstar North, Rockstar Leeds, Rockstar Loncoln and Rockstar London that are British; and hailed for their work. Rockstar North being the most famous of them, for the Grand Theft Auto series . Grand Theft Auto IS a 100% British product, but the parent company Rockstar Games is an American company that was started by the British staff who used to work for BMG Interactive, which was a British Software publisher that Take Two purchased and moved to America. Rockstar Games was founded in American and then Take-Two merged the BMG Inetractive business into it. - X201 (talk) 19:27, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation, it seems pretty clear now that the head company is American. I appreciate your efforts to keep this info correct, X201, but you might end up getting a 3RR warning too. I would suggest just leaving out the word "American", as the phrase "based in New York City" pretty much says what needs to be said without ruffling any feathers. --Iritscen (talk) 19:40, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like this is done? if not, use another {{Request edit}}  Chzz  ►  22:35, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Sorry to reopen a closed discussion, but saying its American, do you have a source for that? MisterShiney 18:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See discussion below. - X201 (talk) 19:54, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality of Rockstar Games

Rockstar Games is headquartered in the United States, controlled by its two British chiefs, but is based in USA, not in Britain, plus it is also controlled by an American company, so why not you can place an American citizen to Rockstar Games?, So as Rockstar North is a British based , because it has its headquarters there, so why Rockstar Games can not add "AMERICAN" if based in the United States? sorry for my bad English, I'm from Venezuela.

greetings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.95.13.60 (talk) 19:37, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rockstar is based in America, is run by Britons, started life as a British company and makes its games in numerous countries around the world. Calling it American is an over-simplification, that is why multinational is used and then followed by an explanation of the company history and its location. In a single sentence we have explained a complex company, putting American at the start would make readers think that Rockstar is a solely American company, which would be a big inaccuracy. - X201 (talk) 19:53, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

186.95.71.128 (talk) 03:19, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, Rockstar Games was founded in the United States, and has always been there, Dan Houser and Sam Houser are their bosses, both British, but Rockstar Games is controlled by another U.S. company, which is Take-Two Interactive, remember that with the purchase of BMG interactive, everything changed.
and Rockstar North is based in Britain (controlled by Rockstar Games) and Rockstar Games New York-based (controlled by Take-Two Interactive), you can add the "American" to the company that was founded in the USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.95.71.128 (talk) 03:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Rockstar Games was founded in the United States", sorry, but you're incorrect, it was a new name for the relocated BMG business. - X201 (talk) 21:26, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

190.78.20.155 (talk) 00:02, 12 December 2012 (UTC) clear that no friend, Rockstar Games was founded in the United States when there existed BMG, then followed that was purchased , now controlled by another American company.[reply]


WOW! Some Americans really dont like the UK founding a games company that actually produces good games! Point is the brits responsible decided to be really awkward. So they founded a games company, but with the development market being in America, and therefore all the contacts being there, they started over there (Purely original research/Personal opinion until proven otherwise). It was just easier for them. But they did have a UK branch for some of its development projects (Giving you the Grand Theft Auto (series)). It was eventually bought came a part of Take Two banner and as far as I know, stayed under the same management, as is common with these sorts of acquisitions. Giving it more money, more market contacts and thus able to make more of those amazing games we all like to play. Why cant we call it American? Because it's run by Brits. Why cant we call it British? Because it's headquarters is New York. Why cant we call it Multinational? Oh wait we do! Multinational is a nice compromise and middle ground of which we all agree. MisterShiney 07:02, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

190.78.20.155 (talk) 00:02, 12 December 2012 (UTC) Rockstar games is a American company based in new york,that's all.[reply]


While I think Multinational Corporation is a good description, we might want to use something that can be cited like the following:

Rockstar Games is a video game developer and production company. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Take Two Interactive headquartered in New York City, New York.

Sources! http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/43961/business.html#/?lb=corpinfo http://appext9.dos.ny.gov/corp_public/CORPSEARCH.ENTITY_INFORMATION?p_nameid=2827000&p_corpid=2804759&p_entity_name=Rockstar%20Games&p_name_type=A&p_search_type=BEGINS&p_srch_results_page=0 http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9NDc1NzM2fENoaWxkSUQ9NTA4MDQ4fFR5cGU9MQ==&t=1

Information about its history including its buyout as BMG should be added in a history section. I would remove this (owned by Take-Two Interactive following its purchase of British video game publisher BMG Interactive) because Rockstar Games has an established history on its own and the buyout and other useful information can be covered in greater detail in the history section. I decent example of this is GEICO--ChadH (talk) 21:28, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I saw nothing wrong with it before hand. Multinational was a good description of what the company is and is a good middle ground given its British roots. Long as it has "multinational" (or an alternative) rather than pointi[[g to one particular country MisterShiney 21:41, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

186.95.0.100 (talk) 23:42, 12 December 2012 (UTC) Why Rockstar Games article is protected? Does the article suffered from vandalism?[reply]

and why Rockstar North may have the "British" and Rockstar Games cant have the "American".

Because Rockstar North, is a British subsidiary of the Multinational Company Rockstar Games, which in turn is a subsidiary of Take Two Interactive. It is all explained on their wiki pages. MisterShiney 07:15, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

186.95.0.203 (talk) 01:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC) Exactly! and Rockstar Games is an American company, based in New York, a subsidiary of another American company, i mean, Take Two Interactive. or am I wrong?[reply]

Rockstar Games is a multinational corporation, not specifically an American company. A multinational company "is a corporation that is registered in more than one country or that has operations in more than one country". Yes, they may have their headquarters in New York City, however Rockstar Games serves other countries, for example, Rockstar North. It is a subsidiary of Rockstar Games and is based in the United Kingdom. -- LuK3 (Talk) 03:22, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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you're wrong, an example is Microsoft, is an multinational corporation and is a American, because it was founded only in the United States, and works globally.

And Rockstar North also should not have the "british" because only is based there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.95.66.248 (talk) 20:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

63.141.199.67 (talk) 20:18, 14 December 2012 (UTC) You're right.[reply]

No. Microsoft has always been American. It was founded by an American. In America. There is no dispute as to it's origins. Look at it like this. A British man moves to America and lives there. Is he American or British? He is British I hear you say. But he lives in America. So surly that makes him American? He is still British. Rockstar Games is a similar concept. It was founded by Brits living in America. It has British roots. It has a British subsidiary. The British are VERY proud to have part of an internationally known company within it's borders. As far as the British media are concerned it is a British company. Potentially it is only registered in America as a UK TAX dodge, although good luck finding an official source to say that. A good and reasonable compromise in this is to say that it is a multinational company.

As IP users with few edits, may I suggest that you create an account if you wish to be taken seriously in future, as it can be the general view among registered editors that you are only here to cause trouble. MisterShiney 22:52, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

190.72.2.153 (talk) 23:24, 14 December 2012 (UTC) and what is the problem, which was founded by the British? what matters is that it was founded in the United States, and is now under the control of another U.S. company. What do you mean UK subsidiary? Rockstar North? is a subsidiary more , as in Canada are Rockstar Toronto and others, as, Rockstar Leeds, Japan, among others. You have to accept that the company Rockstar Games is an American company that was started by the staff who worked for BMG Interactive, or am I wrong? Take Two purchase BMG and moved to the United States, I was wrong again? Rockstar Games was founded in the United States, and Take-Two bought BMG and then moved to the U.S., and now Take-Two is a "American", because are in the United States, not Great Britain.[reply]

So MisterShiney, I hope your answer.Mervin1234 (talk) 07:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mervin1234 (talk) 07:36, 17 December 2012 (UTC) MisterShiney!u die?[reply]

Can I just point out, the correct place to sign your posts is at the end. Like this - X201 (talk) 11:14, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I think that MisterShiney died. or I won, then I think that the nationality should now change to American. Mervin1234 (talk) 07:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First off I should point out how in appropriate those comments are for Wikipedia and you should make yourself aware of the Wikipedia:Policies and Guidlines. Secondly, it is not about "Winning" and just because an editor doesn't reply for a few days because he has other things to do other than argue of the nationality of a company it is no reason to change an already established fact within the article. Thirdly, If you wish to have it changed then up need to first off get other editors involved in the discussion and come up with reliable sources to support your claim. I for one will not go around in circles in a pointless discussion. You have your view, I have mine (and already established comprimise I might add as I was pro it being called a British company). Neither of us will change, so I open it up to the floor for further discussion. MisterShiney 08:37, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

then what I need to do to change the nationality?Mervin1234 (talk) 08:20, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You need to build a consensus that supports a change to the article's present form. - X201 (talk) 16:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Which I feel obliged to point out that without other editors (not just IPs but registered users also) you do not have. To help build this consensus you should find a Reliable Source to back up your claim. MisterShiney 18:11, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I offer up my suggestion again which has sources.

Rockstar Games is a video game development and production company. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Take Two Interactive headquartered in New York City, New York. Rockstar Games is notable for creating commercially successful and controversial games including Grand Theft Auto, Max Payne, LA Noire, Bully, and Red Dead. The company was founded in the United States in 1998 by Sam Houser, Dan Houser, Terry Donovan, Jamie King, and Gary Foreman after Take-Two Interactive's purchase of the British video game division BMG Interactive from BMG.


The headquarters of Rockstar Games is located on Broadway Avenue in the SoHo neighborhood of New York City, along with Take-Two Interactive's offices. Rockstar Games is also comprised of 8 active production studios located five countries.
Rockstar Games is also notable for developing other video game technologies including the multiplatform game engine Rockstar Advanced Game Engine (RAGE) at their San Diego, CA studio. And the Rockstar Games Social Club, an online community used in games developed by Rockstar.

Line Breaks seem to not work with the quotation template. There are two, one after BMG and the other after countries. Sorry...

Initial Sources

Other sources for supporting commercially successful and controversial are in the games' articles and can be copied in. Also I would like to work back in open world and free roaming settings but I'm not sure where.

Maybe we can start here and reach a consensus. Also, there needs to be a history section in this article. ChadH (talk) 01:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I agree with you, we can start the consensus, also agree, the article need have "History" to know what their origins, BEFORE from BMG, and after.Mervin1234 (talk) 04:09, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My offering:

Rockstar Games is a video game development and production company. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Take Two Interactive with headquarters in New York and eight development studios in five countries. Rockstar Games is notable for creating commercially successful and controversial games including Grand Theft Auto, Max Payne, LA Noire, Bully, and Red Dead. The company was founded in the United States in 1998 by Sam Houser, Dan Houser, Terry Donovan, Jamie King, and Gary Foreman after Take-Two Interactive's purchase of the British video game division of BMG Interactive from BMG.


Rockstar Games is also notable for developing other video game technologies including the multiplatform game engine Rockstar Advanced Game Engine (RAGE) at their San Diego, CA studio. And the Rockstar Games Social Club, an online community used in games developed by Rockstar.

The article needs a Present Day style section for the location and studio info,and it needs a History section as previously mentioned. - X201 (talk) 12:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I like I think what you have X201 is great. I can help provide some other sources later today. ChadH (talk) 16:10, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Its basically a re-edit of yours, although I've almost worked out an addition to explain the British/BMG/British founders bit in a better way. - X201 (talk) 16:59, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


i want start a consensus for the nationality, i agree 190.72.13.88 (talk) 19:00, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


New lead discussion

We seem to be getting near so I've created this sub-section for discussion of the actual wording, other complaints/discussions should continue in the main section above.

Current favourite:

Rockstar Games is a video game development and production company. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Take Two Interactive with headquarters in New York and eight development studios in five countries. Rockstar Games is notable for creating commercially successful and controversial games including Grand Theft Auto, Max Payne, LA Noire, Bully, and Red Dead. The company was founded in the United States in 1998 by Sam Houser, Dan Houser, Terry Donovan, Jamie King, and Gary Foreman after Take-Two Interactive's purchase of the British video game division of BMG Interactive from BMG.


Rockstar Games is also notable for developing other video game technologies including the multiplatform game engine Rockstar Advanced Game Engine (RAGE) at their San Diego, CA studio. And the Rockstar Games Social Club, an online community used in games developed by Rockstar.

Addressing the "founded by Britons" issue (changes from above are in bold)

Rockstar Games is a video game development and production company. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Take Two Interactive with headquarters in New York and eight development studios in five countries. Rockstar Games is notable for creating hugely successful and controversial games including Grand Theft Auto, Max Payne, LA Noire, Bully, and Red Dead. The company was founded in the United States in 1998 by the British staff of BMG Interactive - Sam Houser, Dan Houser, Terry Donovan, Jamie King, and Gary Foreman - following Take-Two Interactive's purchase of the British video game division of BMG Interactive from BMG.


Rockstar Games is also notable for developing other video game technologies including the multiplatform game engine Rockstar Advanced Game Engine (RAGE) at their San Diego, CA studio. And the Rockstar Games Social Club, an online community used in games developed by Rockstar.

Have also changed "commercially successful" as it sounded like they just broke-even, instead of the cash cows that they really are. - X201 (talk) 10:23, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how I feel about the word hugely as a description... I understand why but it just doesn't read well to me. But I can't think of a better alternative than just commercially. Also do we know if the entire BMG interactive staff was British? (The staff that founded Rockstar Games, not the entire company) Can we source that? --ChadH (talk) 18:01, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The founders of Rockstar were all British. "Hugely" is the wrong word, but you can see what I was getting at. "commercially successful" has become a synonym for "sold enough to break even and didn't wow the critics" - X201 (talk) 22:45, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. What about the word exceptionally instead of hugely? --ChadH (talk) 00:46, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


thats the correct

Rockstar Games is a American video game development and production company. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Take Two Interactive with headquarters in New York and eight development studios in five countries. Rockstar Games is notable for creating commercially successful and controversial games including Grand Theft Auto, Max Payne, LA Noire, Bully, and Red Dead. The company was founded in the United States in 1998 by Sam Houser, Dan Houser, Terry Donovan, Jamie King, and Gary Foreman after Take-Two Interactive's purchase of the British video game division of BMG Interactive from BMG.


Rockstar Games is also notable for developing other video game technologies including the multiplatform game engine Rockstar Advanced Game Engine (RAGE) at their San Diego, CA studio. And the Rockstar Games Social Club, an online community used in games developed by Rockstar.


Everyone here knows that Rockstar Games was founded in the U.S., is headquartered in New York, and works in headquartered American personnel. - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.95.2.41 (talkcontribs) 05:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're missing the point of this part of the discussion. We get it that you want to push the "Its 100% American" standpoint, but you are incorrect in taking that stance. This part of the discussion is about being open and adaptable to solving the problem, not being dogmatic and entrenching your belief.- X201 (talk) 22:41, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. Although can we keep the "multinational video game developer" part please as it better shows that it has subsidiaries accross the world. It's great that a mention of the British owners founding it in the US. It is of this users personal opinion that SOME editors seem to think that America owns the world. Not just on this article, but some of the other "discussions" I have come accross are crazy! Those changes look great though. MisterShiney 00:25, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ahh, I thought this was dead but I still have my opinion, this also sounds good

Rockstar Games is a American video game development and production company. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Take Two Interactive with headquarters in New York and eight development studios in five countries. Rockstar Games is notable for creating commercially successful and controversial games including Grand Theft Auto, Max Payne, LA Noire, Bully, and Red Dead. The company was founded in the United States in 1998 by Sam Houser, Dan Houser, Terry Donovan, Jamie King, and Gary Foreman after Take-Two Interactive's purchase of the British video game division of BMG Interactive from BMG.


Rockstar Games is also notable for developing other video game technologies including the multiplatform game engine Rockstar Advanced Game Engine (RAGE) at their San Diego, CA studio. And the Rockstar Games Social Club, an online community used in games developed by Rockstar.

lol MervinVillarreal (talk) 18:06, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the while discussion. You will see that the dispute was because it was listed as an American company which is not 100% correct as it was founded by British people. Please take consideration when it comes to using talk pages as this could be considered antagonistic and designed to deliberah create tension. I shall take a momnent to post an official welcome on your talk page so that you are better able to aquatint yourself with the Wikipedia Guidlines. MisterShiney 18:18, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

who founded the company does not matter.   The company was founded in the United States, and is headquartered in the United States, follow the rules of the country. Some days ago I was watching on CNN, that the National Rifle Association named the GTA series and Rockstar Games, for violence in the game, among others, if they delete the GTA saga, it would only be in the U.S.? no, in the world, because Rockstar Games is in America, and Take Two, also in the USA, and that show us U.S. power over the company.MervinVillarreal (talk) 18:30, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


and a question .. Rockstar North, why can have the "British" and Rockstar Games not the "American"? whats the difference?, both are from a different country, with the same owner. MervinVillarreal (talk) 17:03, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Rockstar Games is based in America, with it's headquarters in New York.. However the founders Dan Houser and Sam Houser is from London, England. Also you must understand that Rockstar Games is not a studio developing games or anything, but moreover a studio where they handel PR, develop trailers and such, Rockstar Games is more an umbrella for other studios such as Rockstar San Diego, Rockstar North, and that is the studios that develop the games, and also that this is an under studio department for Take-Two Interactive. But in a strange way operating on it's own. I'll get to my point now, Rockstar Games is based in New York but Rockstar North witch develop Grand Theft Auto is based in Scotland, and this is in the UK. BUT Rockstar Games usually called Rockstar NYC, is based in America as it was founded there, to be a umbrella for the rest of the studios, so you cant set a main nationality for Rockstar Games as they got studios all over the world... I hope this clears up the air a little. Zionnomonus (talk) 11:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Zionnomonus. Said it much better than I could of. MisterShiney 11:33, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course not, Rockstar Games is a game DEVELOPER and publisher, with headquarters in New York, USA, was created in the United States, under the laws of that country, no matter who created the company, was founded under the laws of usa, any company that has its headquarters in the United States, is considered American. Even if the owner no is american.

company, example; Sony Pictures, Music, Universal Music, etc.. AND MANY more.MervinVillarreal (talk) 15:44, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you have your facts wrong here Mervin. Listen to what we are saying. It is a Multinational company. Considering it American is "personal opinion" also. MisterShiney 16:15, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

what happens if is a multinational? That has no bearing on nationality. I continue with the same, the company has to carry the "American" in the beginning, we have to solve this. There is not patriotism.MervinVillarreal (talk) 17:08, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The info box already points out that it is head quartered in the US. There is no need to add misleading information to the lead paragraph. To imply that the company completely American could be misinterpreted by the average reader. I myself will admit, before this discussion, I thought the company was American. But hearing other editors views and explanations, I realise it is not as cut/dry as that and there are other factors involved. Therefore, I am happy to leave it as Multinational. Unless other editors gets involved in this, I consider the matter on my part closed. MisterShiney 17:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If we put American in the article, then everybody will think that Rockstar Games as a whole is American, and that is a fact! Also Rockstar North, Rockstar Lincoln, Rockstar London and Rockstar Leeds is based in the UK, i continue.. Sam Houser and Dan Houser is British, and it was them who started DMA (Now Rockstar North), and it was them who founded Rockstar Games (Known as Rockstar NYC) to be a umbrella for the rest of the studios, R* North, R* Leeds, R* San Diego... so on... So putting in American in the article like this "Rockstar Games is an American Video game developer" would be misleading as MisterShiney says, but doing it like this "Rockstar Games (Also known as Rockstar NYC), is based in New York, United states and works as an umbrella for the rest of the Rockstar studios" would in return put it more clear.. But again I don't realy see a need for that as the article already clearly says it in an simple way... Zionnomonus (talk) 04:09, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]