User talk:MarmadukePercy

Welcome!

Hello, MarmadukePercy, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

• Introduction
• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• How to edit a page
• How to write a great article
• Manual of Style
• Also feel free to make test edits in the sandbox.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, please see our help pages, and if you can't find what you are looking for there, please feel free to leave me a message or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will drop by to help. SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 21:56, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Levett

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Leavitt

I've noticed you adding links to articles about Dudley Leavitt to a bunch of different New Hampshire articles. Most of the ones I've seen were added to articles about towns. Since the links are to information about Leavitt or his Farmer's Almanack, they aren't about the towns. Links should be to information directly related to the article you put them on - take a look at the guideline on external links for more information. You might also consider creating Dudley Leavitt (writer) or something similar. But please don't keep adding the links to inappropriate articles. Thanks, and happy editing!! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC) Sorry, as a new user I should have read the guidelines more closely. Many thanks for your suggestion.MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Editing help

Just one quick dumb question. If one is attempting to edit a page (add info), sometimes when one is finished, the edit omits much of what was on the page to begin with. (If that makes sense.) Is there something I'm doing wrong? Again, many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Hm. I'm not quite sure I understand your question? There is a difference when editing between clicking "edit this page" up at the top of the screen and clicking the little "edit" that shows up be each section header. Is that what you're talking about? Go ahead and reply here - I've watchlisted your page. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 20:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. I hadn't noticed the difference before between the "edit this page" at the top of the screen and the little "edit" that shows up at each section header. Thank you much for taking the time to point that out to me!MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:11, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem! Glad to help :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Again, many thanks! Also, just one more dumb question. If one is editing an article (that one has originated), and another user begins editing your revisions at the same time, is it okay to continue adding or monkeying with it? Or should you go ahead and let the other user finish their edits before you add more? (Again, if this makes sense. Sorry for the unfamiliarity with all things wikipedian!)

Sorry to cause a few clashes but I was trying to help as you are relatively new and the sooner we can get the basics right the better before some Del-boy comes along. Actually you were lucky to get Ukexpat on the new article check as he is very constructive - someone else might have splatted it big time. Anyway note what I have done - which is to include a para for references, some basic categories and links to relevant articles. I have split out the lead sentence and added dates. I tend to create articles in word with at least these aspects covered and then paste the whole lot in. I will leave it for a while and maybe come back and put in the in text sitations and zap all the splats. All the best Motmit (talk) 21:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

That's fine. Thank you for the help and the advice. Sorry for my unfamiliarity with the ways things work. Best regards MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

no probs - glad to help - it took me a while and I'm still learning. Motmit (talk) 21:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Again, many thanks! MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Just another tip - put something on your user page, even if its just a full stop or something. Red users come second to IP numbers as suspicious editors. Take your time to have as much fun as you like with the user page. Motmit (talk) 21:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Again, many thanks for all your help! MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

See - we're a bunch of helpful people around here!

Regarding your question on footnotes - I suspect what you were running in to was not closing the reference. So here's how you would write one:

Text.<ref name="aref">Smith, John (1999). My Fabulous Book, Random House.</ref>

The closing tag is that last </ref>. Without it, the system doesn't know when the ref ends. If that wasn't the problem, leave an example on my talk page and I'll be glad to check. Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 23:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow, no kidding, people are amazingly helpful here. Thank you for that advice on the footnotes. That was exactly the problem.MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Further help

If you look above the edit box, there is a row of icons. Click on the one on the extreme right and it puts in the start and end ref marker. Replace the dummy text by your link. Leave a space and put in a non computerese description. Surround your whole text with single square brackets. Then make sure there is a Reflist entry under References. If not click on the blue entry for it below the edit box. I will leave the Parnes work for you to try. (Have done Fox Talbot) Regards Motmit (talk) 08:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Once again, *many* thanks for your help!MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I got the hang of putting in the footnote, thanks. But another dumb question: how does one put in the Reflist down below? Is there a special icon for that or...? Again, thanks for your patience!MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

One of two options is available for this. Either:

== References ==
<references />

Or:

== References ==
{{reflist}}

Either of those will do - the second one is generally used for when you have more than 5 references to list, as it makes the text smaller. You can try any of these things out at the WP:Sandbox, pages that are open to editing and where you can add or try out tags, banners, code, whatever, all without touching a "live" article :) Hope that helps! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:54, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you again for your help, especially reminding me of the sandbox feature. I will try to give it all a whirl a bit later today. Many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that does work! Thank you! Now I need to go back and clean up some of my other messes, like Palmes! :-) MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

To SatyrTN & Motmit: Many thanks for explaining the footnote process to me. I now am trying to go back to previous articles to which I contributed and insert the correct footnotes. Thanks for your patience and taking the time.MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:46, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

File upload question: Just wondering how one goes about posting a jpg file to a wikipedia page after the image is uploaded to wikipedia? Many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at Help:Image#Embedding internal images. :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

As always, many, many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 02:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Listable references? I was wondering what the wikipedia rule is for listable references? In general, I try to list books whose copyright is way out-of-date, just to be safe. But what's the rule for content on current websites, for instance, for a2a.org.uk (Access to Archives, a British site)? As always, many thanks for all the help!MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:19, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Here's another dumb question. If one wants to post an illustration from a book (rough woodcut), and the book is on google books (and way out from under copyright, having been published in 1628), how does one go about reproducing the image? Is it possible? Again, thanks for your assistance and forbearance!MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

That's not a dumb question - that's a pretty specific one. You'd probably do best asking that one at WP:MCQ. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually I think it's okay on the copyright issue, but I can't figure out how one transfers the image from the page at googlebooks into some sort of format for transfer to wikipedia. (If I'm explaining that correctly....) Again, many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Hm. Screenshot? There isn't (afaik) a way to simply save the page and upload from there. My guess is that screenshot / screen capture software is needed. The Village Pump would be a good place to ask what others know. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 17:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I will check there.MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Charles Walcott (MP)

Your recent contribution(s) to the Wikipedia article Charles Walcott (MP) did not provide specific references or sources. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a drive to improve the quality of Wikipedia by encouraging editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. Editors may choose to remove material you have contributed if it is not verifiable. Please provide specific references in your contributions to any books, articles, websites or other reliable sources that will allow people to verify the content. You can use a citation method listed at inline citations that best suits each article. • Gene93k (talk) 16:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, will do.MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: A big thank you

Hey, no problem at all. You know where I am if you ever need a hand with anything. J Milburn (talk) 18:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

You've been a great help and it is much appreciated!MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

References

Hi, MarmadukePercy! Just a quick note for you on your recent additions to Deerfield, New Hampshire: Unless the information is controversial, there isn't a need for three different citations. Usually one is just fine. In addition, you might want to take a look at WP:RS, in regards to what's a good resource. For instance, I'm pretty sure that "GenWeb" source doesn't quite fit the Wikipedia concept of "Reliable Source". The "Ray's Place" site is likewise questionable. In context, it's not a big deal - the general history of Deerfield is not a controversial subject by any stretch of the imagination! But I thought you should be aware of what is considered "Reliable". Thanks! Glad to see you around! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 21:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks, as always, for your suggestions, Satyr! I will try to keep the footnoting to a minimum. I just figured I would give people something to go on. Thanks also for your suggestions about GenWeb. I tend never to use such resources, and mostly to rely on whatever I can turn up on Googlebooks since there's so much great stuff on there now. Again, your thoughts are always appreciated!MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

One minor suggestion with respect to Google Books - if you add a link to a book on Google Books, make sure it's a public domain book. Otherwise, a reference like {{cite book}} can be helpful, though it doesn't link to the copyrighted text. Hope that helps! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 21:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

One other question SatyrTN. If one makes a contribution to a wikipedia page, and that contribution is subsequently excised as not being supported by documentation, then what does one do? Reply to the talk page of the original article? Post to the talk page of the person who excised the information? Or....? (Again, many thanks for the elucidation of correct wikipedia protocol!)MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I recommend posting on the talk page of the article. If there is no discussion after a few days, re-add the material. Once it's been removed, though, the burden is on you to find a reference or source if it is questioned. You might also take a look at WP:BRD, which has a bit of info on just this topic. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 17:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying that. I will have a look at the page you suggested as well.MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Jim Bakker

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions, including your edits to Jim Bakker. However, please be aware of Wikipedia's policy that biographical information about living persons must not be libelous. Any controversial statements about a living person added to an article, or any other Wikipedia page, must include proper sources. Thank you. JGHowes ^talk - 20:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. What I added to the article was not libelous and can be supported by TIME magazine's stories at the time, written by religion writer Dick Ostling. The setting within Bakker's offices was observed, and the quote was taken directly from an interview granted by Jim and Tammy Faye. Hope this helps.MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thx for the explanation. I've replied on the article talk page here JGHowes ^talk - 22:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

William Jarvis

There are two problems with listing Jarvis in a notable people section (he really shouldn't be listed elsewhere), as far as I see it:

• William Jarvis is a disambiguation page
• There is no article on the William Jarvis that you're talking about.

Easy solution: write an article on the guy, prove his notability, and put him back. I don't know anything about the man, so I can't help you there. Nyttend (talk) 03:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I will write a piece on William Jarvis, thanks. I do consider it noteworthy that the citizens of Vermont and the citizens of Weathersfield, who do presumably know something about the guy, decided to erect a highway marker in his honor. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

replied on my talk page. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 22:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I've realised that I missed the thing about how any person recognised as of great significance in his/her field (i.e. sheep ranching in the USA) is considered notable. Nyttend (talk) 00:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

William Jarvis was far more than a 'sheep farmer.' He served several years as U.S. Consul General in Portugal by appointment of President Jefferson. Subsequently, he was considered one of the most powerful Republicans in the Connecticut River Valley and wielded a great deal of political power, according to recent histories of the area (published by Cambridge University Press). I think your scope is far too narrow. Jarvis should be considered within the scope of the times and in terms of Vermont history.MarmadukePercy (talk) 00:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

The thing is that being a diplomat doesn't make you automatically notable (see this page for discussion that I interpret as ending that way), but being a revolutionary in his field (sheep farming) is enough. You say that he was far more than a sheep farmer: do you think that the article should be moved to William Jarvis (diplomat) or something like that? As I said before, I didn't know anything about the guy than you told me, and the only thing you told me that made me realise that he was notable (even if we only found one source about him) was the sheep. Thanks for digging up more! Nyttend (talk) 01:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. Here is a page that gives quite a bit more background on Jarvis, whose home still stands in Weathersfield Bow. Interestingly, Jarvis, who once traded across Europe in all sorts of commodities, later owned a textile mill in Quechee, Vt., that manufactured a broad cloth suit for Henry Clay, as a token from the people of Vermont to the man who worked to enact a tariff to protect their interests.William Jarvis HouseMarmadukePercy (talk) 01:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I see you went ahead and wrote a stub about him. I will add to that.MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I tried to tell you that I'd written an article; apparently I wasn't clear enough. That's why I was reasoning as I was up above, and why I asked whether the article should be moved. Sorry for the confusion, and thanks for preparing to expand it! Nyttend (talk) 23:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm wikifying it right now, but the article needs to be broken up some into sections, like early life, political career, sheep info, etc. Do you have more info for his early life? AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 06:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help. Yes, I agree, it does need to be broken up into sections. I do have more info on his early life but that'll have to wait for tomorrow. Again, thank you.MarmadukePercy (talk) 06:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Charlemagne Tower

Thanks for taking on that challenge. You're fairly new to Wikipedia, so feel free to bounce any questions off me. Happy editing! Chris the speller (talk) 01:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks!MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I thought of the book title Eats Shoots ... the other day when supplying a badly needed comma for an article, but I just enjoy the title; I'm not sure I need the whole book. Chris the speller (talk) 01:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Agree with you there. I liked the old AP stylebook myself. :-) MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey there, thanks for the Christmas greetings. Sorry, this is the first I've logged in in months! I figure I'll go in and update the in-line citations when I get a chance. Be well! Bowie60 (talk) 17:14, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Yorkshire Fairfax family

Without some hopping around to different topics, this edit doesn't make much sense. Tedickey (talk) 17:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I see your point, thank you.MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:05, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

no problem Tedickey (talk) 18:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Images

Hey, read this. I hope that helps. APK ^{yada yada} 21:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for doing that! I will try to have a look and sort it out.MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

One other question, if you have the time. I got an image from the Commons that I was attempting to use on the page Christopher Levett, but even though I think I have the phrasing correct, the image doesn't upload. Am I doing something wrong? Thank you!MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC) Cancel that question! I figured it out, thanks.MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I tagged the article with 4 projects. I left messages on the project pages, so hopefully more people will help you with the article. APK ^{yada yada} 00:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.MarmadukePercy (talk) 15:07, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Robert Levett

Thanks for the message on my talk page. No problem, the article is progressing nicely. Please note that the article has been moved to Robert Levet (one "t") which is the more common spelling. Robert Levett is now an indirect link to the article. So, whether someone looks for the name with one or two "t"s, they'll find it. Thanks, and good editing. Truthanado (talk) 00:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help. And I agree with the recategorization of Robert Levet also.MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Lobby

Thanks for the comment- its funny how interests keep crossing. Regards Motmit (talk) 16:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. That piece was well done. And you're right, it is funny how interests keep crossing.Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Berkely Levett

Yup, that sorts the issue quite neatly! thanks for responding so quickly, and kudos on the good work with articles like that. thanks again! Ironholds (talk) 11:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The tone of the article, however, is still a bit off; its written more like an essay than an encyclopedia article, i.e "it wasnt suprising that..." and so on. it should have neutral tone. Ironholds (talk) 14:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Images

Hi In those two cases I simply missed the copyright box again because it is so wide that the click-on field disappears when the frame is smaller. Took a while to work out how to fix it but managed. When it comes to images, KIS is the word and I stick to the simplest own- creation follow the arrows path, If I ever figure any more I will load a pic of good old Hamar. Regards Motmit (talk) 16:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for the advice. I'm still scratching my head about commons. Would love to see a pic of Hamar. Have seen one of the caricatures (drawn).

Incidentally, have you ever seen a pic of Sibton Abbey in Suffolk? I'm quite curious about it.[1] Thanks again, my friend.Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't know much about Sibton, although we both had an interest at Roche for different reasons. One of my problems at the moment is trying to get at an image which is loaded on Japanese Wiki. If it was on Commons I could get at it, but there is no way I can get it there myself! Regards Motmit (talk) 18:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow, the Japanese commons? Don't even go there! lol Seriously, I just got a message on Commons written in German. (I don't happen to speak Deutsch so it was lost on me....) :-) Good luck with that, though! As far as Sibton goes, it was the only Cistercian monastery in East Anglia. Today it's a ruin in private hands, those of the Levett-Scrivener family, one of whom married one of your de Lotbiniere folks.[2] Another case of our interests overlapping. Out of curiosity, what interested you about Roche? Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:47, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Oops, on rereading your message, I see you're differentiating between Japanese commons and wiki. Well, I would be hopeless at either one. :-) MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I went to Sibton Abbey a couple of times as a teenager with Arabella Levett-Scrivener. It was very beautiful but completely ruined. I remember it being a bit of a trek, as it's not near the road. Idyllic. Wish I had a photo. Kat Montagu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.196.228 (talk) 02:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Fascinating. Thank you for relating that story. I too wish you had a photo! Thanks again. Best regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Charlemagne Tower

Thanks much for the assist! Bowie60 (talk) 19:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

You're most welcome. You did a nice job with that page. Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Salehurst

In my opinion the information removed would probably sit better on the Bodiam page, it was introduced by the slightly tenuous link "Salehurst lies approximately three miles from Bodiam, Sussex, site of Bodiam Castle." using that as a template you could add the same information to every local page, ie: just replace Salehurst with Robertsbridge, Battle etc. The links given as references are mainly Bodiam related, "Bodiam, and its lords". John Levett probably needs writing up on the Salehurst page though :) Regards Winchelsea (talk) 08:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with you. John Levett probably needs a mention on the Salehurst page. The reason I settled on Salehurst to mention him is that on Dec. 21, 1607, John Levett of Salehurst was granted arms by patent.[3] So Levett, who also contributed to the Armada loan and purchased Bodiam Castle, was then residing in Salehurst. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 20:47, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Wilton, Maine

If you look at the Google Books source, the reference says that it's from "Wilton, MN". Feel free to restore the paragraph if you can find a reliable source for it being from Maine, but please put it separately, rather than being in the notable natives section. Nyttend (talk) 00:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

No, I know quite little about Wilton. If I did, I would have known that "Wilton, MN" was an error and found the sources that you did :-) Nyttend (talk) 16:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Preview

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In the future, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you. --Yopie 06:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, will do!MarmadukePercy (talk) 06:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Groombridge ref

Thanks for the ref, I would like to get the article up to good article sometime. Refs seem impossible to find though! Thanks again, --Cameron* 11:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

You are most welcome! I will keep my eyes peeled for some more stuff. Thank you for letting me know. Best,MarmadukePercy (talk) 12:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I think there are more offline refs when it comes to historic buildings and things. Take care, --Cameron* 19:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

FFV, etc.

Got your message. No bigee. Nice to see your contributions to the various Virginia articles. I try real hard to not "stomp" on other good faith contributors. Mark Vaoverland (talk) 22:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Levett Family

The changes look great! The additional references should also help Levett/Leavitt researchers understand there are many families of this surname, and that the Livet lordships may not be their ancestors. If only someone from Normandy with the "de Livet" name would volunteer for a Y-DNA test! The27thmaine (talk) 22:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your message and for pointing out the need for the fix. You were exactly right and I'm glad you're happy with the way things look. You are very right, if someone from Normandy might be willing to do a swab it would be wonderful. I'm in touch with folks scattered about and if I can convince someone to do so, I surely will give it a go. Many thanks for your help and take care. Best regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of DNA testing, the Leavitt project (Leavitt FTDNA page) currently has Deacon John's sons Nehemiah, Samuel, and Josiah represented. We sure could use an Israel volunteer! And, we even pay for the (cheek swab) test. I have to admit, anxiety does set in while awaiting results (I'm a Leavitt maternally, but I took one for my surname). But when the numbers come back with a match, the years of family research sure mean a great deal more! The27thMaine (talk) 01:21, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Berkeley Etc

Thanks for your appreciation. I hope you didn't mind me taking out some of your purple prose, but that is what the splat seemed to ask for. Also tried to sequence it. As for the other one - looks as if it could be fun in a spare moment (and he's not one of yours!) - hope you like the pic of Hamar Regards Motmit (talk) 15:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to do it. I couldn't bring myself to go back to old Berkeley for some reason, so I'm glad you did the requisite surgery. And thanks for improving the timeline. And I did indeed enjoy the new pic of Hamar. Wish I had a good one of Berkeley. His wife Sibell got around on lots of magazine covers of the day (have seen those). Take care and regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

You did right with Meynell. Having done a few bios on 18/19 century landed people I have come across quite a few common references to hunts, and so probably there is a case for writing specific articles on them. (one day!) Regards Motmit (talk) 18:51, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Funny you should say that, but I was thinking the same thing. The Meynell Hunts, it would seem to me, should certainly have a page. This was an extraordinarily quirky subculture, and deserves some good prose. Thanks again for your help, and I see our interests have crossed again. Take care and regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Deans

Thank you. :) The demarcation among the titles at principal can be fuzzy at times. I appreciate any help. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 11:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Roger Hooker Leavitt

I enjoyed your article about R.H. Leavitt and have nominated it to be featured on the main page (DYK) with the following hook:

• ... that the home of Massachusetts abolitionist Roger Hooker Leavitt was a sanctuary for escaped slaves and is now included in the National Underground Railroad Network to Freedom?

If it's accepted, it should appear on the Main Page over the weekend or early next week. If you were able to come up with a good quality public domain image of Leavitt, we could nominate that to go on the main page along with the hook. Keep up the good work. Cbl62 (talk) 16:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Never said you were proponent

Just said the article at points appear to be (where I added fact tags), biographies need independent citations, and can't have OR, and since some of it seems either opinion weasel or peacock words (no citation proving it), I tagged it so it can be improved. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 22:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought I said it appeared to be written from the POV of a surrogate [when briefly skimming it]. Appearances aren't always the truth. Sorry for any confusion. I didn't use coi template for that reason. Didn't mean to imply it was bad faith.ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 22:25, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Roger Hooker Leavitt

On 1 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Roger Hooker Leavitt, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 07:22, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

John Leavitt (Ohio settler)

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DYK nomination

Hi. I've nominated Thomas Leavitt, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks --Bruce1ee^talk 08:14, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

List of BLS Alumni

Hi, thanks for you interest in BLS Alumni.

The reason I removed these people from the list is because they were not sourced. In the past week, I have made many improvements to this article. I was hoping to give it feautured status. However, because of Wikipedia's guidelines for feautured materials, I choose to exclude the unsourced alumni, at least temporarily. They are now commented out. If you can find a source that backs up their alumni status, please add it to the article. I want this list to be as inclusive as possible. --Pgp688 (talk) 07:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. In exchange for your help, I will add someone to the PEA Alumni article: Walter A. Brown, original owner of the Boston Celtics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgp688 (talk • contribs) 08:02, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I liked the changes to the lede, thanks for your contribution. The images I chose for the article were kind of random. Besides the important alumni, such as John Hancock and Samuel Adams, I chose the names that just happened to stand out at me. If I did it again, I probably would have chosen different people. (I don't know why I did not include Leonard Bernstein.) The image of Richard Morris Hunt would make an excellent addition to the list, but I am a little hesitant about it because of the public domain rationale attached to it. You can be bold and add it yourself, if you'd like. --Pgp688 (talk) 04:13, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Hiram Leavitt

On 12 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hiram Leavitt, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 18:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Jonathan Leavitt (publisher)

On 13 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jonathan Leavitt (publisher), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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DYK for Charles Wellford Leavitt

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DYKBot (talk) 14:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Ashley Day Leavitt

On 14 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ashley Day Leavitt, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 10:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Leavitt (inventor)

On 14 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Leavitt (inventor), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 10:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Barbaro hoax is back

The info, "sourced" by another Wiki is false. The only Ghits are for mirrors about deletion of related hoax articles. [4]. Please see User:Barneca/watch/societyfinalclubs for more evidence of hoaxing. For more information, check with User:Barneca who has filed another Checkuser on Ex-Men aka Venistory aka several other things. [5] Edward321 (talk) 14:15, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Thank you

Hey thanks. :) Always glad to help out. I wish you and yours a happy holidays as well. --User:Woohookitty ^{Diamming fool!} 07:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Hopper Levett

Could you explain the image on his page, I can't see the connection between a picture painted in 1906 and a player born in 1908. Johnny Tyldesley or Colin Blythe would seem more appropriate locations for the image. --Jpeeling (talk) 09:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Afraid not. Cricinfo, Kent CCC and CricketArchive (which sometimes has pictures but not in this case) would be the possible online sources. I have a couple of books, The Gloveman and Gloves Are Off (Godfrey Evans' autobiography) with numerous mentions but there's no pictures and even if there was there'd be copyright issues. --Jpeeling (talk) 12:08, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Thanks for the kind note. Things are a little slow here, but we have much to be grateful for. Best to you, Mark. Vaoverland (talk) 04:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind note and all best wishes to you too for the festive season. It has been interesting work on one or two articles, and you still keep bouncing across my radar screen from the most unlikely diretions. Regards Motmit (talk) 08:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

And would you believe it, I've just ended up with another link to the Baccarat scandal!. Regards Motmit (talk) 21:44, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks Percy, you'll see if I don't get it up to GA status...one day! ;) Best wishes, --Cameron* 11:30, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Your note

Kind of you to drop by and acknowledge my minor edits and what they mean. Thanks for the barnstar. I know that your encouragements to editors are a major help as well. Enjoy the holdiays. LilHelpa (talk) 22:43, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, still having fun pounding them out. Really like the "system" typos -- the variations on "references", "sources", "image", etc. Getting a little bolder with copy edits, but still feel there's a lot I haven't totally gripped.

Hey, what fun would botting be? I'm way too hands-on. Cheers! LilHelpa (talk) 21:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that's some nice work on Hersey. Congrats. I did not know or had forgotten all about this guy and his work. The article made me realize that in my chosen WP work I mostly get to see the crappier articles. Hey! Don't get me reading articles or I won't have time to keep up with the misspellings! :) LilHelpa (talk) 00:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC) (PS: "limned" ha! good one. I had to look that one up!)

And to you too

Merry Christmas; best wishes for a fruitful new year. Happy editing, --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:48, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Mayors of Bristol

Hi,

A list of past mayors is at [Mayors of Bristol since 1216] Jezhotwells (talk) 21:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Thanks! And to you as well! Funny, I keep running into the Prinseps. The last brush was in this Chapter 1 of an online history text now being used by millions of eighth-graders in India. Go to bottom of page 6. (Note too that the newly teenaged minds are being clued in to the tricks of the illustrator's trade.) Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:35, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

No problem. Have a happy new year! Neutrality^talk 22:34, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Help Desk query

I have responded to your question at the help desk. (link to section) Icewedge (talk) 00:06, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I just figured out what your problem was, you did not close the reference tag correctly (you had <ref>....../ref>), which lead the MediaWiki parser to think that you were trying to include everything below the unclosed reference tag inside the citation. I have restored the content and closed the tag correctly ([6]). Happy new year to you too :) Icewedge (talk) 00:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

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DYK for John L. Stevens

On 3 January, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John L. Stevens, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 07:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Leavitt

Given all the dyk notices above (wow are you productive!), I know you are familiar with the process but as far as I can tell you have not nominated any of your creations yourself. Would you like me to do so for the above article?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

How does this strike you:

• ... that Joseph Leavitt, nicknamed Quaker Joe, was a conscientious objector during the American Revolutionary War, having laid down his weapon after three months of fighting for the Continental Army?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Great. I'll add it now:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and its done, here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:12, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I'm surprised that after all those third party nominations, no one ever referred you to the nomination process page. Keep up the article writing. Meanwhile, I'm going to go reformat the additional references you added as I did to your earlier ones. It's not a huge deal, but you'll never get an article past a WP:FAC unless you have full refertences (and you strike me as someone who may well have an FA in his future). Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:26, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Forbes Field photo

No, it's not a free photo hence it's not on Commons. One of the "fair use" bot programs tagged that picture as being used incorrectly. My normal approach on those is to remove the tag and remove it from the article for which it was not tagged. To add it back, you would need to write a second "fair use justification" block on the photo's page. I think these fair use rules are stupid, but that's how it works. If this doesn't make sense, try contacting the author of the bot program and see if they can explain it better than I. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 19:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Go to the picture's own page. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 19:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I put it back. We'll see if they target it again. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 01:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Henry Leavitt Ellsworth

Because there's already Category:Mayors of Hartford, Connecticut on it. As that's a subcategory of Category:People from Hartford, Connecticut, a person doesn't need to be in both of them at the same time. Bearcat (talk) 08:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Leavitt

On January 12, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Joseph Leavitt, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 20:12, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Photos

You said this: " You can either email the creator of the work on Flickr (using Flickrmail, or whatever they call it). Ask them if you can have their permission to use their work. I've then had the creator email me a copy of the photo, which I've uploaded onto Wikimedia NO IDEA HOW UPLOADING TO WIKIMEDIA IS DONE OR I'D JUST TELL THE OWNER , as well as a 3.0 Sharealike license, which the creator fills out and you can post that to the pic file with the photo. AGAIN, DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FIND A 3.0 LICENSE OR HOW TO POST IT The creator's email is listed on the form, and they are emailed to confirm their permission. I BARELY KNOW EMAIL; BEAR WITH ME!! Thanks...--leahtwosaints (talk) 02:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank You for the Nice Message!

Thank you so much for the nice message you left me about my vandalism reversions. It's nice to be appreciated! FaerieInGrey (talk) 00:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Polegate's Levett Street versus Road

No problems, I've lived in Polegate all my life. Just passing by updating information. EddersGTI (talk) 04:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

New England edits

Thanks...I've read several of your New England contributions too. Nice work. Swampyank (talk) 03:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

General Martin

Well, I clicked on your contribs to see what other Leavitt's you've written about, and started reading the article on Martin when noticed the vandalism. If you asked the Martin chapter of the SAR for permission to save and use the portrait of Gen Martin from their website, I bet they would. After all, You DID make a page on Wikipedia about THE man they are named after (and interested parties can follow the external link right back to their organization)! The27thMaine (talk) 21:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Category:Cemeteries on the National Register of Historic Places

This new category is related to the work of Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places -- you might be interested in contributing...

You flatter me in saying I have an eye for detail; in fact, I've been taking a random walk through Wikipedia finding articles that fit in this category. I'm sure I've overlooked many... --Orlady (talk) 06:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for John Brooks (writer)

On January 31, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article John Brooks (writer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 14:16, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Will you help teach me to upload a photo?

Hey, I am having a hard time understanding uploading photos, and such. There's a woman who must be banging her head against a wall- she can't figure out how to remove the little noncommercial icon from her photostream or selected photos we need of The Cowsills and Waddy Wachtel. She's tried now for several days several times a day to do this. Finally, she's just got her photos I wanted to BY-CC. For upload, I said more experienced editor would contact her. She is Louise, and her email address is: palanker@gmail.com Maybe would you do it? (I've been on a rampage trying to find photos for the multitude of pages I find that have none.) When I asked another user for help twice, he got pretty pissed off with me, and sort of bawled me out, telling me to figure things out myself, but Commons is a maze to me. I have NO idea how it works. Galleries? Categories? How to even get a photo into that place --and then find it again!!!? First I guess I need to know what you meant about mailing someone something to fill out, or ??? I even tried to look at Geograph.org as you mentioned, but it didn't seem anything like Commons, so that didn't pan out. Will you walk me through this? We want to upload these: Waddy Wachtel with The Cowsills:[7] And Waddy Wachtel: [8] (that one may need cropping? I don't know how to do that either). The Cowsills: [9] Anyway, I'd love to see them get photos. Can you help to upload them in the right sizes? I just don't know how. Thanks. --leahtwosaints (talk) 22:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

John Hersey

I'll post more later about this wonderful start to an FA, but time is short to get this in for DYK. How does this strike you: Did you know:

• ... that Pulitzer Prize-winning writer and journalist, John Hersey's 31,000-word article "Hiroshima" was described by Time Magazine as "the most celebrated piece of journalism to come out of World War II"?

There's so much material here for a submission but 200 characters is the suggested upper limit foir DYK hooks and this hook happens to be exactly 200.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I am not an FA expert but I do have some suggestions. First there are many unsourced sentences—even whole paragraphs. Every paragraph needs a reliable source which verifies all the content, and where a reference is placed in the middle of the paragraph, any sentences appearing thereafter also need a source. The lead is a good start but it won't pass FA. The lead must attempt to effectively summarize the entire article in three to four paragraphs and nothing in the lead should be a fact that isn't cited later in the article, with more detail. The breadth of coverage is not enough I think. I assume you've looked at the featured article criteria, which requires the article to be comprehensive. While there are relatively short FAs, someone like John Hersey has a lot written aout him, and just judging by length, I don't think this would be near broad enough coverage. Maybe there is little detail on his early life but is "Born in Tientsin, China, to missionaries Roscoe and Grace Baird Hersey, John Hersey learned to speak Chinese before he spoke English. He returned to the United States with his family when he was ten years old" really all there is on his childhood to discuss? What were his parents' professions? How was he schooled until ten? This almost cries out for a sourced sentence saying "little is known about his early years" if this is really all there is. Don't for a second get me wrong: you've done great work taking this from what it was to here. But FAs require huge effort—this is a very good start but I think there's still a long road to travel.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:37, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

The DYK was rejected as I knew it might be as the actual prose expansion of the article text itself wasn't quite fivefold, which is the technical rule, though I thought it might sneak in since counting the notes and references, it was almost a 6x expansion. C'est la guerre.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Hooker

I was glad to help, it saddens me a little some of the essential history topics do not receive enough attention sometimes. I just could not leave poor Tom with a references needed tag! Thank you for helping out, and if we really want to get ambitious, we could read this biography and really expand it. Scapler (talk) 22:42, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Hingham's Main Street

Hi. I'm suspect that Eleanor Roosevelt's "most beautiful Main Street in America", 'with its stately eighteenth- and nineteenth-century houses and, at the time, a canopy of elm trees', comment was referring to the stretch between Cedar and Cushing Streets, more or less, not to the downtown blocks shown in either File:HinghamMainStreet.jpg or Image:MainStreetHingham.jpg.
—WWoods (talk) 06:16, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Time magazine

I didn't actually block the editor for anti-Semitism (I'm not an admin anyway) - someone else did for a different incident.

PS. I subscribe to TIME!Bsimmons666 (talk) 01:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

James Prinsep

Thanks for noticing. I was inspired because a friend of mine just attended the Prinsep Ghat Cultural Festival at Calcutta, a unique cultural event organised by the Indian National Trust for Art and Cultural Heritage.

If your have an interest in Anglo-Indian affairs you may check out Stephen Ponsonby Peacocke and Douglas Hamilton which I recently completed.

FYI: one of my best old American friends from my "India days" graduated from Phillips Exeter, However my daughter graduated from Phillips Andover and some of her friends wore T shirts saying "Friends don't let friends go to Exeter". Cheers, :-) Marcus (talk) 20:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes actually I have noticed User:Fowler&fowler, as he has made some edits on articles I created, however I have not had dialogue with him. Thanks for pointing him out. Now he's on my radar. I may contact him re: British India related articles. G'day-Marcus (talk) 21:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Sidney Kilner Levett-Yeats

Interesting chap, like most Brits in India notable enough to be written about. I took the liberty of adding sections, one reference, one photo and some small edits.-Marcus (talk) 23:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Jane Mayer

Thank you.Roregan (talk) 02:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Just so you know, including more links to Jane Mayer's work at the New Yorker does nothing to establish notability. I have no doubt that she works for New Yorker, and, as such, would be expected to produce columns for the New Yorker on a regular basis. However, WP:notability requires that someone 'independent' of her establish her noteworthiness. Thanks! Bonewah (talk) 14:00, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

You wrote on my page "Your standard seems to be: if someone does something in the course of their job, then they are simply performing their job and therefore they aren't notable." That's not just my standard, its wikipedia's standard. Consider the first line from Wikipedia:NOTABILITY#General_notability_guideline "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article." The standard here is clear, what is needed is someone else, besides her or the New Yorker, to establish her notability. The National Book Award would have done it, except she didnt win, she was only nominated. Her politics or mine dont enter into it at all. Bonewah (talk) 14:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I guess the Columbia Journalism School's John Chancellor Award puts this issue to bed, no? Roregan (talk) 19:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Im terribly sorry that following the rules is such a burden to you, perhaps if Roregan would try to do something productive it would go quicker. Just so you know, no the Chancellor Award didnt really put the issue to bed, i am, however, content that some effort has been made to, you know, follow the rules as far as notability is concerned and wont grouse about further. Bonewah (talk) 18:40, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Italics

Oops, sorry about that! I wasn't sure, checked WP:MOS and that usage wasn't listed, so I removed the formatting. I trust your judgment though, so thanks for the fix. :) -- edi(talk) 03:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Keswick, Virginia

The reference that I added was to support the assertion that the Shacklefords were prominent in the Monticello Association, rather than the presence of a family cemetery in Keswick, which is why I added the reference in the sentence prior to the clause naming the existence of a family cemetery. I'm troubled by the lack of support for the "long prominent in Albemarle and Orange County" claim, but that's for another day. :) --WaldoJ (talk) 21:16, 4 March 2009 (UTC)