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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion but, unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This does not include changing the plurality of a noun when such the distinction between topic and set categories is uncertain.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous article
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.) If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
*REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 04:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 183 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here! Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list.
- Category:Arab people in British Palestine to Category:Arab people in Mandatory Palestine – C2D per Mandatory Palestine/Category:Mandatory Palestine/Category:Mandatory Palestine people Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:St. Boniface, Winnipeg to Category:Saint Boniface, Winnipeg – C2D per Saint Boniface, Winnipeg. 2001:569:74D2:A800:9D98:7A60:55DD:F9DF (talk) 01:43, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Atelier 17, alumni to Category:Atelier 17 alumni – C2A, no reason for a comma Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:28, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Urva to Category:Urva (genus) – C2D per Urva (genus) Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:06, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Legislative Districts in the Maryland House of Delegates to Category:Maryland House of Delegates districts – C2C: Consistency with others in Category:State legislative districts of the United States Elli (talk | contribs) 20:50, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Al Mabarra FC players to Category:Al Mabarra Club players – C2D. Nehme1499 18:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:DPHB players to Category:AS DPHB players – C2D. Nehme1499 18:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Perak FA players to Category:Perak F.C. players – C2D. Nehme1499 18:11, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:NK Maribor Tabor players to Category:ŽNK MB Tabor players – WP:C2D, ŽNK MB Tabor Snowflake91 (talk) 16:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Guizhou Hengfeng F.C. to Category:Guizhou F.C. - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Guizhou Hengfeng F.C. players to Category:Guizhou F.C. players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Guizhou Hengfeng F.C. managers to Category:Guizhou F.C. managers - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Beijing BSU F.C. players to Category:Beijing Sport University F.C. players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Heilongjiang Lava Spring F.C. to Category:Heilongjiang Ice City F.C. - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Heilongjiang Lava Spring F.C. players to Category:Heilongjiang Ice City F.C. players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Heilongjiang Lava Spring F.C. managers to Category:Heilongjiang Ice City F.C. managers - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Zhejiang Greentown F.C. to Category:Zhejiang Professional F.C. - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Zhejiang Greentown F.C. players to Category:Zhejiang Professional F.C. players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Zhejiang Greentown F.C. managers to Category:Zhejiang Professional F.C. managers - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Zhejiang Greentown F.C. seasons to Category:Zhejiang Professional F.C. seasons - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) 05:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Football (soccer) in Niue to Category:Soccer in Niue – C2D per Soccer in Niue Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Football competitions in Niue to Category:Soccer competitions in Niue
- Category:Football leagues in Niue to Category:Soccer leagues in Niue
- Category:Niue national football team to Category:Niue national soccer team (also C2D per Niue national soccer team)
- Category:Football venues in Niue to Category:Soccer venues in Niue
- Category:X-Ray Specs songs to Category:X-Ray Spex songs - C2D, per X-Ray Spex Hiddenstranger (talk) 03:09, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:People from St. Vital, Manitoba to Category:People from St. Vital, Winnipeg – C2D per St. Vital, Winnipeg/Category:St. Vital, Winnipeg Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:45, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Member of All India Yadav Mahasabha to Category:Members of the All-India Yadav Mahasabha – C2A, pluralize and adding "the" Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:04, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Member of Patriarchal Congregation of Bzommar to Category:Members of the Patriarchal Congregation of Bzommar – C2A, pluralize and adding "the" Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:03, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Member of All-China Sports Federation to Category:Members of the All-China Sports Federation – C2A, pluralize and adding "the" Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:01, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Nominated Member of Puducherry Legislative Assembly to Category:Nominated members of the Puducherry Legislative Assembly – C2A, pluralize, capitalization, and adding "the" per Category:Members of the Puducherry Legislative Assembly (on caps issue, cf Category:Nominated members of the Lok Sabha, Category:Nominated members of the Rajya Sabha)Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Member of German Burschenschaft to
Category:Members of German BurschenschaftCategory:Members of the German Burschenschaft – C2A, pluralize Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)- Good Ol’factory, I suggest Category:Members of the German Burschenschaft. TSventon (talk) 01:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- I am fine with that; I wondered if it needed a "the". Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:21, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Good Ol’factory, I suggest Category:Members of the German Burschenschaft. TSventon (talk) 01:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Orders following the Benedictine Rule to Category:Orders following the Rule of Saint Benedict – C2D per Rule of Saint Benedict Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:27, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Paintings by Christopher Williams to Category:Paintings by Christopher Williams (Welsh artist) – C2D per Christopher Williams (Welsh artist) Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:40, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:People educated at De La Salle College, Mangere East to Category:People educated at De La Salle College, Māngere East – C2D, per Māngere East. Grutness...wha? 16:32, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Viettel Football Club to Category:Viettel FC - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks FootwiksFootwiks (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Viettel Football Club managers to Category:Viettel FC managers - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks FootwiksFootwiks (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Viettel F.C. players to Category:Viettel FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks FootwiksFootwiks (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Haiphong Football Club to Category:Haiphong FC - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks FootwiksFootwiks (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Haiphong Football Club managers to Category:Haiphong FC managers - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks FootwiksFootwiks (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Hai Phong F.C. players to Category:Haiphong FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks FootwiksFootwiks (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Đồng Tháp F.C. players to Category:Dong Thap FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks FootwiksFootwiks (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Kingdom of Naples (1806-1815) to Category:Kingdom of Naples (Napoleonic) – C2D per Kingdom of Naples (Napoleonic) Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:15, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Karate practitioners by competition to Category:Karateka by competition – C2C per Category:Karateka and subcategories Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:08, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Supreme Commander to Category:Supreme Commander (video game) – C2D per Supreme Commander (video game) Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:57, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Prosecutors of the Ukrainian SSR to Category:Prosecutors of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic – C2B Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:General Prosecutors of Azerbaijan to Category:Prosecutors General of Azerbaijan – C2D per List of Prosecutors General of Azerbaijan Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Prosecutors of the Azerbaijan SSR to Category:Prosecutors of the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic – C2B Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:52, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Mount St. Joseph University athletes to Category:Mount St. Joseph Lions athletes – WP:C2C; the standard for individual school categories within Category:College athletes in the United States by team is "[Athletic brand name] [school nickname] athletes". Also, the category for the MSJ athletic program is at Category:Mount St. Joseph Lions. — Dale Arnett (talk) 00:06, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Xuan Thanh Sai Gon F.C. players to Category:Xuan Thanh Saigon Cement FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Thanh Hóa F.C. players to Category:Thanh Hóa FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Than Quảng Ninh F.C. players to Category:Than Quang Ninh FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Sanna Khanh Hoa F.C. players to Category:Khanh Hoa FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Quảng Nam F.C. players to Category:Quang Nam FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Navibank Saigon F.C. players to Category:Navibank Sài Gòn FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:CLB Long An players to Category:Long An FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Lam Dong F.C. players to Category:Lam Dong FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Khatoco Khánh Hòa F.C. players to Category:Khatoco Khánh Hòa FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Hòa Phát Hà Nội F.C. players to Category:Hòa Phát Hà Nội FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Đồng Nai F.C. players to Category:Dong Nai FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:CLB An Giang players to Category:An Giang FC players - WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name. Footwiks (talk) Footwiks (talk) 17:43, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:TU Dresden faculty to Category:Dresden University of Technology faculty – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 19:40, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:TU Dresden alumni to Category:Dresden University of Technology alumni – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 19:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:TU Dresden to Category:Dresden University of Technology – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 19:37, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose these three; instead, revert undiscussed page move by Störm (talk · contribs) against earlier RM at Talk:Dresden University of Technology. – Fayenatic London 19:45, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Happy to park these until we can agree the title of the article. Rathfelder (talk) 10:05, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose these three; instead, revert undiscussed page move by Störm (talk · contribs) against earlier RM at Talk:Dresden University of Technology. – Fayenatic London 19:45, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:Grand Viziers to Category:Grand viziers – C2A/C2D per Grand vizier Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:56, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- This violates C2C with subcategories, ultimately due to inconsistencies in article space, e.g. List of Safavid Grand Viziers. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Grand Viziers of the Safavid Empire to Category:Grand viziers of the Safavid Empire after moving List of Safavid Grand Viziers to List of Safavid grand viziers per WP:MOSCAPS
- Category:Grand Viziers of the Mughal Empire to Category:Grand viziers of the Mughal Empire after moving List of Mughal Grand Viziers to List of Mughal grand viziers per WP:MOSCAPS
- @Ymblanter: can we relist the three categories in conjunction when the (imho uncontroversial) article moves aren't reverted within say a week? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:55, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Elis to Category:Elis (regional unit) – C2D: Category:Ancient Elis matches Ancient Elis. It seems this category would be less ambiguous matching the article name Elis (regional unit). Gjs238 (talk) 04:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy pinging Gjs238. I don't think disambiguation is needed as Category:Ancient Elis is a sub category of Category:History of Elis and thus of Category:Elis. If Category:Elis were renamed its subcategories should be renamed as well. TSventon (talk) 12:11, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Gjs238 have you considered a RM or bold move of the article Elis (regional unit) over the current redirect Elis? – Fayenatic London 20:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Fayenatic london I think moving the article is a cleaner solution than renaming the category. Thank you for the suggestion! Gjs238 (talk) 03:39, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Requested move is at Talk:Elis (regional unit)#Requested move 4 July 2021. TSventon (talk) 09:39, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Fayenatic london I think moving the article is a cleaner solution than renaming the category. Thank you for the suggestion! Gjs238 (talk) 03:39, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Gjs238 have you considered a RM or bold move of the article Elis (regional unit) over the current redirect Elis? – Fayenatic London 20:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy pinging Gjs238. I don't think disambiguation is needed as Category:Ancient Elis is a sub category of Category:History of Elis and thus of Category:Elis. If Category:Elis were renamed its subcategories should be renamed as well. TSventon (talk) 12:11, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Geography of South Georgia to Category:Geography of South Georgia (island) – C2D per South Georgia (island) Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Landforms of South Georgia to Category:Landforms of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Bodies of water of South Georgia to Category:Bodies of water of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Bays of South Georgia to Category:Bays of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Coves of South Georgia to Category:Coves of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Glaciers of South Georgia to Category:Glaciers of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Lakes of South Georgia to Category:Lakes of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Beaches of South Georgia to Category:Beaches of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Headlands of South Georgia to Category:Headlands of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Islands of South Georgia to Category:Islands of South Georgia (island) (not sure if this one works; can something be an island of an island? – I think so)
- @Good Olfactory: sometimes I think we take principles too far… – Fayenatic London 21:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london:, I am open to other options. As it stands, I'm afraid that there is a decent chance of it being misinterpreted as islands in the south part of the U.S. state of Georgia. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- What about Category:Islands of South Georgia (southern Atlantic)? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- The main article's Infobox names the archipelago as South Georgia group, so I suggest we use Category:Islands of the South Georgia group. – Fayenatic London 17:06, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable to me. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Me too. This probably requires a full. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- For this whole "South Georgia" category list, or should most go ahead as nominated? The Rock formations category also includes locations not on the main island, e.g. Theodor Rock. That raises the question for the intermediate parent Category:Landforms of South Georgia, and Category:Geography of South Georgia. The rest of the listed categories probably cover just the island, and some say so explicitly e.g. Glaciers/ Mountains and hills. – Fayenatic London 08:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- It may make sense to take all of them to CfD. Note that Category:Geography of South Georgia is parented to the non-existing Category:South Georgia (island), there aren't apparently any other categories that might cause C2C issues in a full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- For this whole "South Georgia" category list, or should most go ahead as nominated? The Rock formations category also includes locations not on the main island, e.g. Theodor Rock. That raises the question for the intermediate parent Category:Landforms of South Georgia, and Category:Geography of South Georgia. The rest of the listed categories probably cover just the island, and some say so explicitly e.g. Glaciers/ Mountains and hills. – Fayenatic London 08:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Me too. This probably requires a full. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable to me. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- The main article's Infobox names the archipelago as South Georgia group, so I suggest we use Category:Islands of the South Georgia group. – Fayenatic London 17:06, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- What about Category:Islands of South Georgia (southern Atlantic)? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london:, I am open to other options. As it stands, I'm afraid that there is a decent chance of it being misinterpreted as islands in the south part of the U.S. state of Georgia. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Good Olfactory: sometimes I think we take principles too far… – Fayenatic London 21:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Mountain passes of South Georgia to Category:Mountain passes of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Mountains and hills of South Georgia to Category:Mountains and hills of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Rock formations of South Georgia to Category:Rock formations of South Georgia (island)
- Category:Ports and harbours of South Georgia to Category:Ports and harbours of South Georgia (island)
- Let's try this differently. I have nominated Category:Islands of South Georgia for merging at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_May_21#Category:Islands_of_South_Georgia. Articles in Category:Rock formations of South Georgia about island rocks should be moved to Category:Rock formations of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. When all that is done, the remainder can be speedied. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Honey Bunny Film Series to Category:Honey Bunny film series – C2A, capitalization Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:50, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Would most likely be "(film series)" as that is the standard dab, but this category should really be deleted. There is only 1 film and even in the {{Honey Bunny Ka Jholmaal}} template no additional films listed. --Gonnym (talk) 00:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Feel free to nominate it for a full. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Would most likely be "(film series)" as that is the standard dab, but this category should really be deleted. There is only 1 film and even in the {{Honey Bunny Ka Jholmaal}} template no additional films listed. --Gonnym (talk) 00:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese Communist Party Committee Secretaries to Category:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries – C2A, capitalization per WP:JOBTITLES; C2C for the subcategories below Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:04, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Communist Party of China Committee Secretaries of Rehe Province to Category:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries of Rehe Province
- Category:Communist Party Secretaries of Xi'an to Category:Chinese Communist Party committee secretaries of Xi'an
- Comment @Good Olfactory: for concision I would suggest Category:Communist Party secretaries of Foo for local-level categories. The full title is a bit cumbersome, and when the name of a location is present the words Chinese and committee can be implied when one talks of a party secretary. A main article link or category explanation could help if you find that the scope is not obvious enough. Place Clichy (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think the more concise names are eligible for speedying. If we speedily rename the head categories I can follow-up on the others with a full discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Good Olfactory: I would approve that: no objection to rename the head categories per C2D (as you may have noticed, I found identically-named main articles) while fixing capitalization and plural, but submit the local categories to full discussion to a less redundant name. Place Clichy (talk) 04:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think the more concise names are eligible for speedying. If we speedily rename the head categories I can follow-up on the others with a full discussion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment @Good Olfactory: for concision I would suggest Category:Communist Party secretaries of Foo for local-level categories. The full title is a bit cumbersome, and when the name of a location is present the words Chinese and committee can be implied when one talks of a party secretary. A main article link or category explanation could help if you find that the scope is not obvious enough. Place Clichy (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese Communist Party Deputy Committee Secretaries to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries – C2A, capitaliation per WP:JOBTITLES; C2C for the subcategories below Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:01, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of Sichuan to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Sichuan
- Category:Deputy Communist Party Secretaries of Hebei to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Hebei
- Category:Deputy Communist Party Secretaries of Jiangsu to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Jiangsu
- Category:Deputy Communist Party Secretaries of Jiangxi to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Jiangxi
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of Shaanxi to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Shaanxi
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of Shanxi to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Shanxi
- Category:Deputy Party Secretaries of Yunnan to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Yunnan
- Category:Communist Party of China Deputy Committee Secretaries of Zhejiang to Category:Chinese Communist Party deputy committee secretaries of Zhejian
- Comment: for concision I would suggest Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Foo for province-level categories, as above. Place Clichy (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: the usual shorter title is "Deputy Party Secretary", without "Communist" (e.g. usage within the articles Chinese Communist Party Deputy Committee Secretary, Chinese_Communist_Party_Committee_Secretary#Deputy_Party_Committee_Secretary, Jin Yinhuan), so I think the concise plural should be "Deputy party secretaries of Foo". – Fayenatic London 21:28, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- It is correct that, in context, in China or any other communist system, the often capitalized terms of "the Party" and "the Party Secretary" will unambiguously refer to the Communist Party. After all, these head articles were only recently renamed from simply (Deputy) Party Committee Secretary. However category names are supposed to be clearly understood without too many elements of context, that's why I thought that "Communist (deputy) party secretaries of (Shanghai)" is both easily understandable and concise enough, without being too ambiguous, e.g. with KMT holders of a similar function pre-1949. Place Clichy (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have processed the head categories and moved the rest here as Opposed. – Fayenatic London 22:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Moved all to a full discussion here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have processed the head categories and moved the rest here as Opposed. – Fayenatic London 22:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- It is correct that, in context, in China or any other communist system, the often capitalized terms of "the Party" and "the Party Secretary" will unambiguously refer to the Communist Party. After all, these head articles were only recently renamed from simply (Deputy) Party Committee Secretary. However category names are supposed to be clearly understood without too many elements of context, that's why I thought that "Communist (deputy) party secretaries of (Shanghai)" is both easily understandable and concise enough, without being too ambiguous, e.g. with KMT holders of a similar function pre-1949. Place Clichy (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: the usual shorter title is "Deputy Party Secretary", without "Communist" (e.g. usage within the articles Chinese Communist Party Deputy Committee Secretary, Chinese_Communist_Party_Committee_Secretary#Deputy_Party_Committee_Secretary, Jin Yinhuan), so I think the concise plural should be "Deputy party secretaries of Foo". – Fayenatic London 21:28, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: for concision I would suggest Category:Deputy Communist Party secretaries of Foo for province-level categories, as above. Place Clichy (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Shia Muslim scholars to Category:Shia Muslim Islamic scholars, C2D per List of Shia Muslim Islamic scholars. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:54, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. Moved without discussion less than a month ago, so C2D does not apply. Also, Muslim and Islamic is uselessly redundant. Place Clichy (talk) 14:03, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy I agree Muslim and Islamic are not both necessary, because Islamic covers the fact that they are Muslim, however I would support renaming to 'Shia Islamic Scholars' as Muslim scholars includes both Muslims who have studied secular courses and Ulama, whereas Islamic scholars refers to Ulama. Amirah talk 22:23, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Madonna (entertainer) to Category:Madonna – C2D; consistency with main article's name. The singer was established as the primary topic in July 2020 after a requested move and relevant categories weren't renamed accordingly. Sean Stephens (talk) 12:15, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy as an explicit exception to WP:C2D. Quoting: "
This [criterion] applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator)
." This may be proposed and discussed in a full CfD discussion though. Place Clichy (talk) 12:55, 21 June 2021 (UTC) - Oppose as well as C2D clearly does not apply in this case. The nominator also failed to list the subcategories in which many could be considered less ambiguous but would still require a full discussion. There was a fun debate on this topic at CFD/S last year. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:37, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- See, none of this makes sense to me. If consensus deemed the singer as the primary topic, categorisation should reflect that. If we can't at the very least do that, maybe consensus was wrong. Sean Stephens (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sean Stephens: there is much sense to what you write, and you are invited to open a full discussion (at WP:CFD). People don't disagree with you, this just does not fall under the restricted cases when a longer discussion can be skipped. Place Clichy (talk) 04:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- See, none of this makes sense to me. If consensus deemed the singer as the primary topic, categorisation should reflect that. If we can't at the very least do that, maybe consensus was wrong. Sean Stephens (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy as an explicit exception to WP:C2D. Quoting: "
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:57, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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