Old and in the Way

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Old and in the Way
Origin San Francisco, California, United States
Genres Bluegrass
Years active 1973–1974
Labels Round Records
Acoustic Disc
Acoustic Oasis
Past members Jerry Garcia
Peter Rowan
David Grisman
John Kahn
Richard Greene
Vassar Clements
John Hartford

Old and in the Way was a bluegrass group in 1973. It was composed of Peter Rowan (guitar, vocals), Vassar Clements (fiddle), Jerry Garcia (banjo, vocals), David Grisman (mandolin, vocals), and John Kahn (string bass). When the group was forming, it was intended that John Hartford would be the fiddle player. Based on Hartford's engagements, and Clement's reputational stature in the bluegrass community, Clements became the group's fiddler.

The group performed traditional tunes such as "Pig in a Pen" as well as bluegrass-flavored versions of the Rolling Stones' "Wild Horses" and Peter Rowan's "Panama Red".[1][2]

Old and in the Way's debut album Old and in the Way which was released in 1975 went on to become one of the best selling bluegrass albums of all time.[3][4][5] The group, without Jerry Garcia and John Kahn, released a reunion album in 2002, called Old and in the Gray.[6]

On July 31, 2015 Peter Rowan and David Grisman (the last two surviving members of Old and in the Way) performed a set with the String Cheese Incident, Chris Pandolfi (banjo) and Blaine Sprouse (fiddle) at the 20th annual Gathering of the Vibes in Bridgeport, Connecticut. They performed many Old and in the Way songs in addition to other covers and original compositions.[7]


Old and in the Way[edit]

2002 reunion: Old and in the Gray[edit]


Year Recorded Year Released Album Chart Positions Label
US US Bluegrass US Country
1973 1975 Old and in the Way 99 Grateful Dead
1973 1996 That High Lonesome Sound Acoustic Disc
1973 1997 Breakdown
2002 2002 Old and in the Gray 9 72
1973 2008 Live at the Boarding House 3 Acoustic Oasis
1973 2013 Live at the Boarding House: The Complete Shows Acoustic Oasis


  1. ^ http://www.allmusic.com/artist/p671/biography Old & In the Way biography
  2. ^ "Grateful Dead Family Discography: Old & In The Way Discography". deaddisc.com. Retrieved 2016-06-15. 
  3. ^ "Vassar Clements - Biography". vassarclements.com. Retrieved 2016-06-15. 
  4. ^ "Jerry Garcia - Biography - IMDb". imdb.com. Retrieved 2016-06-15. 
  5. ^ "Grateful Dead Hour no. 301 | Grateful Dead". dead.net. Retrieved 2016-06-15. 
  6. ^ http://www.answers.com/topic/old-and-in-the-way Group bio and discography
  7. ^ "David Grisman and Peter Rowan Joined String Cheese At Vibes | L4LM". liveforlivemusic.com. Retrieved 2016-06-15. 

External links[edit]

  • The Jerry Site for complete set lists of live Old & In The Way concerts.