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This needs a disambiguation page as Bizjet is a company and bizjet automatically gets routed to "Business Jet"
This needs a disambiguation page as Bizjet is a company and bizjet automatically gets routed to "Business Jet"


== What about companies that offer dead leg seats? ==
== What about companies that offer dead leg seats? == YO FACE!!!! is not awesome


I have heard they are out there. I just do not know of any. A dead leg is when a private jet flies someone from Point A to Point B but returns to Point A while the person stays at Point B. It later returns to pick that person up.
I have heard they are out there. I just do not know of any. A dead leg is when a private jet flies someone from Point A to Point B but returns to Point A while the person stays at Point B. It later returns to pick that person up.

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This needs a disambiguation page as Bizjet is a company and bizjet automatically gets routed to "Business Jet"

== What about companies that offer dead leg seats? == YO FACE!!!! is not awesome

I have heard they are out there. I just do not know of any. A dead leg is when a private jet flies someone from Point A to Point B but returns to Point A while the person stays at Point B. It later returns to pick that person up.

Suppose Bill Gates is going to fly from Redmond, WA to Martha's Vineyard for a vacation. His jet might return to Remond. This return leg might be to allow the jet to be serviced or fly someone else somewhere. This trip back to Redmond is a "dead leg" because the jet's owners are not assured of a paying passenger.

Later, the jet will need to return to Martha's Vineyard to pick Gates back up and take him home. However, since the jet is somewhere other than Martha's Vineyard, it must make another dead leg trip.

As I understand it, there are companies that sell seats on dead leg trips for those jet owners. However, Wikipedia does not appear to have a dead leg article. Nor does it mention dead legs in the private jet article. Will 01:25, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's interesting. We don't have much about the detail of the bizjet charter business in the article whatsoever, which should be added (but unfortunately, not many of us get to experience bizjet chartering all that often...). --Robert Merkel 02:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is it possible to credit help in building a section or article? Perhaps we could contact an advertising office of one of the companies, and ask for information in return for a small credit (e.g. as a reference. [1] 1. Information in this article comes from the CharterJets Inc., P.R. Department.) or something like that. I understand if the consensus is that something like that would violate the neutrality of the article. 24.205.34.217 21:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, sorry, it's not possible to do that. The information needs to come from verifiable third-party source. I find it hard to believe that with the number of magazines, both aviation business related (Ie, Business and Commercial Aviation) and business related (ie, Forbes), that have covered this industry, no one can dig out a ref? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 21:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You may be conflating two different aviation terms... A route without a paying passenger is usually referred to as an "empty leg" and the process of flying an empty plane is known as "deadheading." A number of charter companies send out empty leg newsletters announcing upcoming flights at reduced prices. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GBright (talk • contribs) 05:14, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gulfstream

Why aren't Gulfstreams mentioned, the Caddillac of Business Jets? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.239.100.251 (talk) 02:35, 12 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]


Very Light Jets

Merging this would mean you would need to merge very light jets too. I propose very light jets are merged into this page

List Boxes

Suggest using list boxes too divided by manufacturer so the mess of the list of airlines do not transcend to the growing list of businss and executive aircraft.

That list of airlines is useless to navigate through......Endless scrolling... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.172 (talk) 05:27, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should we place a list? Or is that unencyclopedic?

  • I found this. Is this encyclopedic? Or should this not be added?

List of bizjets, business jets, executive jets, and very light jets

Out of Operation

In Minimal Use

In Production

See also

WhisperToMe (talk) 22:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Exclusive"?

From the article:

The most exclusive type of private jet is the heavy jet type, which is designed for the ultimate in large capacity luxury air travel. Aircraft of this class includes:

Isn't this usage of the word "exclusive" wrong? "Exclusive" doesn't mean "luxurious" or "fancy". It means "only available to few". JIP | Talk 19:19, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems right to me, but we can use "the rarest type", "the most expensive", "the harder to see", etc. Or: "The most exclusive type of private jet is the heavy jet type, due mainly to its cost. This type is often designed for the ultimate in large capacity luxury air travel. Aircraft of this class includes:" Aldo L (talk) 04:38, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Missing Light business jet

Piaggio P180 Avanti is missing. It is a ligt business jet in production in Italy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.81.120 (talk) 16:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Avanti is not a jet, it is a turboprop. Aldo L (talk) 04:39, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a performance advantage of fuselage mounted engines, they are not mounted there because they cannot fit under low wings.

By having fuselage mounted engines, they are closer to the centre line of the aircraft. Therefore should an engine failure occur the yawing (turning forces) caused by asymmetric thrust from the remaining engine are reduced.

This makes the aircraft more controllable, especially at lower speeds where reduced airflow over the rudder makes it less effective.

The shortest runway an aircraft can safely take off from is one on which it can suffer an engine failure during acceleration and either abort and stop before running off the end or continue accelerating on the remaining engine and successfully take off. Pilots use a nominated speed called V1 as a decision point to either continue (at V1 or above) or stop (below V1) following an engine failure. The lowest speed that V1 can be is dictated by whether they can overcome the asymmetric yaw of the remaining engine's thrust using rudder inputs and have sufficient directional control to continue accelerating along the runway and take off.

Having fuselage mounted engines means more control at lower speed and therefore allows a lower V1. Having a lower V1 means that less distance is required to stop following an engine failure below V1. Therefore a shorter runway can safely be used.

During climb out after a takeoff following an engine failure, an aircraft with fuselage mounted engines can also climb at a lower speed and still maintain control. This means the pilots are able to pitch the nose up higher for a given power setting and therefore achieve a better angle of climb (vertical height gained for ground distance covered). This is particularly useful when departing airports with high terrain surrounding them.

These performance advantages enable a greater takeoff weight under like for like conditions meaning that a greater fuel and/or payload can be carried. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.159.117.174 (talk) 03:47, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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