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Frequently asked questions

Many of these questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning Michael Jackson.

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Q1: Should the article mention reports that Michael Jackson was Muslim? (No.)

A1: No. The article should not mention reports that Michael Jackson was Muslim. Jackson had not publicly spoken about his exact religion in a number of years and only spoke about spirituality in general terms. The specific reports of a conversion ceremony for Jackson have been denied by his New York lawyer Londell McMillan.[1] They were also denied by Yusuf Islam/Cat Stevens [2] and Dawud Wharnsby [3] who were allegedly present at the ceremony. The Michael Jackson memorial service did not involve any Islamic rites. Without further details from his family or representatives, it will not be included in the article.

Q2: Should the "Jacko" name be mentioned in the lead? (No.)

A2: No. The "Jacko" name should not be mentioned in the lead. Past consensus goes against such inclusion. The name is a derogatory term used primarily by US/UK/Australian tabloids. The slogan is discussed in the relevant section of the article.

Q3: Should the article mention that Jackson reportedly had cancer/blindness/liver disease/AIDS, etc.? (No.)

A3: No. The article should not mention that Jackson reportedly had cancer, blindness, liver disease, AIDS, etc. Until such claims are confirmed by a Jackson representative it will not go in the article at all. These claims are largely fabricated by tabloids.

Q4: Should the article mention that Jackson reportedly had a secret child called Omer Bhatti? (No.)

A4: No. This claim was denied by Bhatti [4] and only a DNA test would resolve the matter.

Q5: Isn't Jackson the seventh child of the Jackson family, not the eighth? (No.)

A5: No. Marlon had a twin, Brandon, who died shortly after birth. This makes Michael the eighth child.

This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:

McCullagh, Declan (June 25, 2009). "Michael Jackson's death roils Wikipedia". CNET Networks.
Rawlinson, Linnie (June 25, 2009). "Jackson dies, almost takes Internet with him". CNN.
Boyd, E.B. (June 27, 2009). "Wikipedia Tech Team Learns About King of Pop, Rock, and Soul Death When Their Servers Crash". Mediabistro.com.
Shiels, Maggie (June 28, 2009). "Web slows after Jackson's death". BBC News.
Cohen, Noam (June 26, 2009). "With Jackson Entry, Wikipedia May Have Set a Record". The New York Times.
Cohen, Noam (July 19, 2009). "Wikipedia May Be a Font of Facts, but It's a Desert for Photos". The New York Times.
(none) (August 17, 2009). "The 50 most-viewed Wikipedia articles in 2009 and 2008". The Daily Telegraph.

Michael Jackson's religion was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 16 November 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Michael Jackson. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Number of siblings

There are in fact 10 Jackson siblings... Michael is the eighth. His younger brother, Brandon, died shortly after birth. I'm not able to edit this and it's frustrating! The article actually says he's the eighth after saying he's the seventh.

Actually, there are eleven Jacksons, if you count Joe Jackson's illegitimate daughter Joh'Vonnie Jacksons. But who's counting?

BAD has sold 45 million copies worldwide!

"Released in 1987, it is one of the greatest selling albums of all-time and sold over 45 million copies worldwide." by: taletela.com

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THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ON THIS IMAGE = its from this website http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaydeepooh/4213582179/ and has the following information = This is a PR photo. WENN does not claim any Copyright or License in the attached material. Fees charged by WENN are for WENN's services only, and do not, nor are they intended to, convey to the user any ownership of Copyright or License in the material. By publishing this material, the user expressly agrees to indemnify and to hold WENN harmless from any claims, demands, or causes of action arising out of or connected in any way with user's publication of the material. Supplied by WENN — Preceding unsigned comment added by MJKingofMusic (talk • contribs) 22:51, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Per the tag on that flickr page, the image is all-rights-reserved, so using it would have to comply with the non-free content criteria. However, the flickr link that MJKingofMusic provided is to a different image, so we're back where we started, really: copyright status is unclear. —C.Fred (talk) 00:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Per the tag on that flickr page, the image is all-rights-reserved, so using it would have to comply with the [[WP:NFCC|non-free content criteria]]. However, the flickr link that MJKingofMusic provided is to a different image, so we're back where we started, really: copyright status is unclear. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 00:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
-== File:Michael Jackson King of Pop 1988.jpg ==
-There is an image of Michael in a blue shirt that talks about his vitiligo. i was hoping someone could help me with copyright stuff, i dont really know what to do. but the information that i have is as follows = the file is from http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaydeepooh/4213582179/ and it says the following information - This is a PR photo. WENN does not claim any Copyright or License in the attached material. Fees charged by WENN are for WENN's services only, and do not, nor are they intended to, convey to the user any ownership of Copyright or License in the material. By publishing this material, the user expressly agrees to indemnify and to hold WENN harmless from any claims, demands, or causes of action arising out of or connected in any way with user's publication of the material.
-Supplied by WENN
-is this enough info to allow the image to stay on wiki.
-thank you for your time and patience. god bless[[User:MJKingofMusic|MJKingofMusic]] ([[User talk:MJKingofMusic|talk]]) 19:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
-:Sorry, Flickr has that tagged as "All rights reserved", so we can't use it here.  [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 19:17, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
-== MJ Instruments ==
-Michael can play guitar, piano, bongos, drums, keyboard, synthesizer, percussion and can beatbox. there is evidence of him playing these instruments and beatboxing in many videos a d articles. i don't know why it keeps being removed. if anyone wants evidence please ask and if you have any questions don't hesitate.
-thanks for your time and patience, god bless[[User:MJKingofMusic|MJKingofMusic]] ([[User talk:MJKingofMusic|talk]]) 19:47, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
-:It's not supposed to be a list of every instrument he ever touched. There are several discussions in the archives about this. [[Talk:Michael_Jackson/Archive_29#Instruments_that_Jackson_Played|This]] is the most recent I see, but I might have missed some. --[[User:Onorem|Onorem]][[Special:Contributions/Onorem|♠]][[User talk:Onorem|Dil]] 20:40, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
-An author has stated that Michael was accomplished at both drums and piano. He has played percussion on many of his songs especially in his Off The Wall, History and Invincible albums. he also played bongos on his later jackson five works. look at the album credits of History it shows you he played keyboard and synthesizer.  [[User:MJKingofMusic|MJKingofMusic]] ([[User talk:MJKingofMusic|talk]]) 22:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
-::Consensus on this issue was already reached in past discussions in the archives of the talk page, as Onorem has noted. Jackson was not noted for his ability to play any instrument, including piano, guitar or drums. This is why "vocals" is the only category listed under instruments. In order to change the consensus, you would have to reach a new consensus with other editors of this page.[[User:Jpcohen|Jpcohen]] ([[User talk:Jpcohen|talk]]) 02:46, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
-He was known to beatbox as he often did this for most of his songs. he would tape record what he heard in his mind and duplicate what instruments and sounds there were. Most musicians use a piano to reach and compare notes for songs, as did Michael. Therefore piano and beatbox should be put in.[[User:MJKingofMusic|MJKingofMusic]] ([[User talk:MJKingofMusic|talk]]) 11:58, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
-== MJ's Signature ==
-Could someone please put Michael's signature in the info box, i don't really know how to do it. His signature is pretty funky and cool.
-Thanks, god bless [[User:MJKingofMusic|MJKingofMusic]] ([[User talk:MJKingofMusic|talk]]) 22:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
-== Also Known As Section on MJ ==
-Someone keeps putting in Michael Joe Jackson. That is not his nickname or real name. he was never known as that. He is often referred to as the king of pop, MJ, king of pop, rock and soul (title given to him by Elizabeth Taylor and was thereafter said by his fans). [[User:MJKingofMusic|MJKingofMusic]] ([[User talk:MJKingofMusic|talk]]) 12:02, 1 June 2012 (UTC)