Students on at least 33 universities participated on encampments with include
1-City University of New York - NYC
2- The New School - NYC
3- University of Rochester - Rochester, NY
4- University of California at Berkeley Berkeley, CA
5- University of Southern California Los Angeles
6- California State Polytechnic University
7- Yale University - New Haven, CT
8- Northwestern University - Evanston, IL
9- University of Maryland - College Park, MD
10- Harvard University - Boston
11- The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) - Cambridge, MA
12- Columbia University
13- Tufts - Medford, MA
The University of 14- Michigan - Ann Arbor, MI
15- University of Minnesota Minneapolis, MN
16- University of Nevada - Las Vegas
Princeton
17-University - Princeton, NJ
18- University of New Mexico - Albuquerque,
19- Ohio State University - Columbus, OH
20- UNC Chapel Hill - Chapel Hill, NC
21- University of North Carolina - Charlotte,
22- Temple University - Philadelphia
23- University of Pittsburgh - Pittsburgh, PA
24- Brown University - Providence, RI
25- Vanderbilt - Nashville, TN
26- Florida international University - Miami 27- University of Puget Sound - Tacoma, WA
28- University of Kansas - Lawrence, KS
29- University of Arizona - Tucson
30- Texas A&M - College Station, TX
31- University of Texas - Austin - Austin, TX
32- University of Texas at Dallas - Dallas, Texas
33- Indiana University Purdue University -
Indianapolis
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There is a typo in the reaction section in the third political paragraph. It should be than instead of then in the quote, as in the referenced article. Floweryskies (talk) 00:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
In the Vermont section: I would like an addition made in reference to the University of Vermont. On April 28, UVM held a Liberation Seder using a haggadah put together by the Chittenden County chapter of Jewish Voices for Peace. Please cite this VT Digger article and this WCAX article hosted at MSN (Web Archive form pending). Mossgazer (talk) 05:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Today, April 30 at approx 7 am, pro-Palestine demonstrations began on the Staller Steps on Stony Brook main’s campus. Students tried to set up tents but were told by University Police that tents were considered a “structure,” and thus a permit was required (even though the tents were not staked into the ground). A student tried using a megaphone and was told by University Police they would need a “sound permit,” despite this student using their megaphone at other protests would no issue. Source and more info: https://sbstatesman.com/127280/news/breaking-news-sb4palestine-organizes-gaza-solidarity-encampment-on-staller-steps/. Rye bread92 (talk) 01:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
India
On 29th April, the administration of Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU), New Delhi, cancelled an event with the United States ambassador to India following protests by students who objected to the invitation due to the US involvement in the Gaza genocide.
Ambassador to India Eric Garcetti was invited for a talk on US-India ties by the School of International Studies. The “join protest demonstration” led by the JNU Students Union called to “resist military-industrial complex of US imperialist forces”.
Hi there, I am a long term reader of Wikipedia. this was my 1st attempted edit. I felt that it was important to give more information about the cancelling of Asna Tabassum, 2024 Valedictorian at USC, reflecting who she is. (I find her a remarkable inspiration!)
I saw this interview of her from Wednesday 4 24 24 on Democracy Now, and was very moved by what she shared. I wanted to learn more and went on Wiki, but found little info about her. So I attempted to add a few quotes, that would help readers understand more of the issue around this Valedictorian speech cancellation, a 1st in USC history.
Here is the edit I offered: Please feel free to include it or not, and correct formatting or not.
Warm Regards, Dr. Suzanne Lerner
PS I tried to copy the citation format, but have no previous experience coding, so I did my best. Feel free to change it.
USC claimed they were cancelling their invitation for Asna to give the USC 2024 Valedictorians speech, due to safety reasons. Asna was given no details as to what the security threats or what the security concerns were. When she asked for details regarding the security concerns — for example, were they security concerns about her or her classmates? — She was offered no information and was told it was not appropriate for her to know.
Asna was chosen out of a group of 100 students with a GPA > than 3.9, Asna has a Major in Bio-Medical Engineering, and a Minor is Resistance to Genocide. As she stated in an interview recorded Wednesday, 4 24 24 on Democracy Now: "I see my major and my minor working together, for the very same goal, is that, you know, my minor in resistance to genocide allows me to study the human condition at possibly one of its worst conditions, and then biomedical engineering is my way of learning technically how we can improve the human condition through increasing health accessibility."
While some groups used an article she had posted a link to, to claim that she was promoting a one State solution, Asna points out that in the very next paragraph, "there are paragraphs and information relating to the two-state solution, as well...as the one-state. The sentence right after the one you just quoted (about a possible one state solution) talks about coexistence between Arabs and Jews."
Asna added that "In no way am I advocating for hate. I am only advocating for human equality and for the sanctity of human life when I say that Palestinians, as well as Jews, as well as Muslims and Armenians and anyone else who is invested in this conflict, has the equal right to life and the equal privilege of the fullest extent to life."
Note: There is no consensus on the reliability of Democracy Now, and attribution is recommended if it is used as a source. It would probably be best to use a different source, which should be easy to find since this has been widely covered.
Aside from that, the details seem a bit out of scope for this article. This amount of context could be useful in an article about her, this event, or the USC protests in general - but in this case we probably don't need more than a sentence or two. Jamedeus (talk) 02:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. The claim that the protests are growing violent was made by speaker Mike Johnson, who was attempting to amplify his message. Until several sources have claimed so, it woukd not be prudent to state the protests are violent. I support using "civil unrest" to reflect the increasing conflict between protesters and law enforcement, however. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him)17:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
What rename do you refer to? I see "April 2024 pro-Palestinian protests across US universities, which seems to still be very US exclusive (contrary to the "International" subheader)
(later edit: It seems it was changed and now turned back to US, you can ignore this reply)
Heyo! Do I have the rights to those photos then? I don't want to get into any legal trouble for taking pictures of the protest or police at the protest. I really want to show people what happened though. Irisoptical (talk) 08:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes, if you took the photos then you own the rights to them. As far as I'm aware there's nothing illegal about taking photos of a protest in Texas. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
thank you! I'll get to it right away. Any tips on adding them to pages? I know this page is locked but I would like to have one of my pictures added once I add them to wikipedia Irisoptical (talk) 18:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello there, I uploaded 3 photos just now and will link them below. I'd like at least one of them to be used, and feel like each of the three have some sort of use somewhere.
We need to flesh out more of these university subsections
Obviously when this settles down of course, and while information is flowing in we can continue to fill in each subsection as necessary.
But some of these protests might have only one source referencing them and could probably be concatenated into a single section of "Other colleges", when this settles down (whenever that happens).
Not sure how merge proposal or page scope will be dealt with; the article has no Outside US section so far but see above. So here are some sources if anyone feels like creating a section and adding them:
I think this is fine and was the right move by @Makeandtoss. It was premature to rename the article (without consensus) when the topic is predominantly US universities. Just because there has been a few international protests this doesn't warrant a name change, mainly because these international protests are not notable enough to have their own article. Pinging @ElijahPepe who made the original move. [2]CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 11:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I am also unaware of any major student protests taking place outside of US that has garnered significant coverage. Either way, the US protests deserves a standalone article per the WP:Notability guideline. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
I think at some point we should extend it to all protest once we have enough good coverage, but I’m not sure if that point has been reached. FortunateSons (talk) 12:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I am requesting that my own photo taken at the University of Oregon’s encampment protest be used in the Oregon section of this article. I think that given the size of the encampment (as it has grown in recent days), it would be a useful addition to this article.
The main reason I make this request is because Richmond County does not exist and was very clearly a typo. I also noticed that the other two noun phrases were rather awkward as well (there probably isn't a good reason to keep the shortened version, especially since it doesn't link to St. Louis the city, and "the University" has weird capitalization and doesn't flow very well), although those latter two changes are not strictly necessary. Bruberu (talk) 01:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Remove Turkey from Locations where the student protests are taking placeTreachCriss (talk) 07:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
The source doesn't mention Turkey. Either remove it or add a better source that mentions Turkey.
Remove Turkey from Locations where the student protests are taking placeTreachCriss (talk) 07:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
The source doesn't mention Turkey. Either remove it or add a better source that mentions Turkey.
Alongside Columbia University, Barnard is taking action to suspend those involved with the encampments. Additionally, there have been encampments occurring at Rutgers University in New Jersey.
That's from April 10th, before the Columbia encampment started this. The encampment had already been boing on for two weeks so it started in March. It does raise a good question about the title of this article. Is this page just for the Gaza protests that are in solidarity with the Columbia encampment that started on April 17th? or is it for anything that happened in April? If it's for the former, then this Smith College story should go to Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States. What's the consensus? Kire1975 (talk) 01:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
The title of the article doesn’t mention Columbia. This is an on campus protest against the war that happened in April 2024. Just because Columbia was the first school to make headlines doesn’t mean we should ignore whatever campus protests happened before. Maybe there should be a section of other related protests 2601:193:8380:1630:7107:BA7B:B602:D8C2 (talk) 12:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
It appears the encampment part ended on April 9 or 10, but since then there has been a non-encampment protest on April 21, after April 18. (source) I would say that qualifies Smith to be mentioned in the article (possibly with the earlier encampment briefly mentioned). TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 02:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States article
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Edit request: Students 4 Gaza - A Global Map of Encampments and Demands List of Participating Universities (students4gaza.directory) / Internationalize the Article because the Article is too U.S.-Centric
The website “Students 4 Gaza - A Global Map of Encampments and Demands” ( https://students4gaza.directory/ ) has more participating colleges and universities listed on the website including cited sources used to make the determination. Many such participating institutions in the United States and around the world have yet to be added to the list and map here on Wikipedia. So I request that you please add the missing institution, including the ones outside the United States to the list on Wikipedia.
As of 5:02 AM Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on Monday, April 29, 2024, the participating institutions are as follows (for new updates check original source):
Addition of contrarian opinion to introductory paragraph?
Hello, I was reading over the page and noticed that the paragraph starting with "Several protests have been criticized for antisemitism" feels a bit empty to me.
For deeper analysis into anti-Zionism and claims that it is/is not antisemitic would probably be better suited for the anti-Zionism and weaponization of antisemitism pages. This page should focus on the protests at universities and link to pages where these claims and counter claims can be described in full. Also, secondary sources and news articles are preferred for references over primary source statements from political organizations. BootsED (talk) 14:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Support, but remove 'in the United States'. While most of these have been in America, there are a significant amount of global protests as well. Personisinsterest (talk) 20:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Support 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses without "in the United States" – the protests are pretty commonly referred to as pro-Palestinian in the sources, as noted. It's also misrepresentive and false balance to present the protests as being generically about the war, when the specific phenomenon in question is overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian protests, with whatever counter-protests only representing a minor and reactive phenomenon by comparison. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:29, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Ambiguous how? What other 2024 pro-Palestine protests on university campuses could it be confused with? If anything, all 2024 (pre-April) protests should be included as a background to avoid confusion. I otherwise agree that at this point, with several international protests, your suggestion seems the best and most supported so far. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 13:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Support2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses under the WP:CRITERIA of recognizability, naturalness and conciseness. While most of the protests are at US universities, several are in other parts of the world. While the protests do object to the war and are opposed to the genocide, describing them as pro-Palestinian is common in the sources. Boud (talk) 01:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Support renaming the title, Oppose attempts to merge this with larger scale pages because this has quickly evolved past a few college protests Irisoptical (talk) 01:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC) Struck per WP:ARBECR
Support renaming: my suggestion is Pro-Palestinian encampment protests on university campuses. Even though some protests mentioned in the article aren't encampments, the encampment aspect is without a doubt the defining aspect of the movement and should be in the title. As a bonus, using "encampment" instead of just "protests" avoids having to use the year to disambiguate IMO. WikiFouf (talk) 20:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Would Support Astronomyfortwo and FlipandFlopped's proposals as well as all similar ones above. Would also note that based on recent posts from national and international organizers, 2024 Student Intifada should be considered - the other titles are probably better, but had to throw it out there. Amyipdev (talk) 06:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC) Struck per WP:ARBECR
SupportThe People's University for Palestine (College protests)(also referred as " The People's University for Gaza", "The Popular University for Palestine" or "The Popular University for Gaza"). Many college encampments are referred as "The People's University for Palestine" or other variations as it encapsulates both the protest aspect but also the teach-ins that are carried out, religious events, dances, artworks, improvised libraries... One of the goals of these protests is to create autonomous and independent spaces inside the premises of the Universities where pro-Palestinian discourse can be carried out. Stanford:[3][4]Columbia:[5]Cornell:[6][7] here are some links, I can provide more. Hstoops (talk) 20:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Support - As it stands, this title is yet another example of Wikipedia's tendency to uphold a cumbersome title whilst hiding behind ulterior motives instead of admitting there is any POV being enforced in these cases. The vast majority of these students are not protesting against Israel's going after hamas as the current title implies, they are protesting for Palestinian human rights, period. I agree with GraziePrego; 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campusesJester6482 (talk) 01:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Oppose United States shouldn't be mentioned in the title, given these protests aren't just local, but are happening in several countries. Nfitz (talk) 22:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Support change to 2024 pro-Palestinian student protests. The current title is way too lengthy. These are (mostly?) student protests, that became prominent recently (i.e. this year (April would be more precise, but there is no need for so much precision and it is likely to continue in the next month, i.e. tomorrow)) and in support of Palestine. Hence the title suggestion. Niokog (talk) 14:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Although protests are predominantly student-based, faculty members have also been involved, as well as "outsiders", so not convinced this would be an accurate title to reflect the content. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 14:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
The problem with college is that it's too broad a term; "In most of the world, a college may be a high school or secondary school", hence why university campuses is used at present. The U.S. definition is completely different from the rest of the world, as it's not even widely accepted that a university is a college. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
I don't think there has been either college or high school protests here. Simply the senior institutions. Nfitz (talk) 18:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Support per the reasons already given by others in this discussion - most obviously, the fact that the protests have lasted beyond April. Professor Penguino (talk) 07:26, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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That's news to me, where in guidelines does it say that an involved editor can not move a page based on request? As far as I understand based on WP:RM: "Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves". Personally I didn't see this as a WP:NOTRM or WP:PCM issue, and it wasn't an WP:RM#T. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 23:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Revert if you feel the need to, and re-open the discussion, but otherwise I think the discussion did take it's course — specifically directly into the title the article was moved into. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 23:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose such a move, as this article from The New York Times states, "Experts say the partisan political context in Washington is a driver behind the spread of protests at American universities even as overseas campuses have stayed relatively calm" and that "campus protests overseas have been sporadic and smaller, and none have started a wider student movement." With this in mind, having a smaller section on the page for "spread to other countries" is appropriate. BootsED (talk) 23:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
I would like to request that the following material and sources, or some variation of it, be incorporated into the "In Texas" subsection, specifically the paragraph discussing the protests at UT Austin. This can replace some outdated information, such as that discussing the arrests on campus:
On April 24th 2024 non-violent protests were planned on the University of Texas at Austin campus by the Palestine Solidarity Committee, a registered student organization at the university. The protests drew a large crowd, which was later dispersed by Austin Police Department officers and Texas Department of Public Safety troopers, who were there as the request of the university and Governor Greg Abbott, who claimed the protests were anti-Semitic and unauthorized.[1] 57 individuals were arrested for criminal trespassing, all of whom were later released without charge by mid-day April 26th.[2] The law enforcement presence and subsequent arrests at the protests have since drawn criticism from both students and professors at the university.[3][4]
Looks like an overlap with paragraph 3 of the Texas section. You may want to consider ... specify[ing] what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it, i.e. show the current version of paragraph 3 and what you propose replacing it by. If you want to remove other people's words/references, then it will either need to be obvious why your proposed text is better, or else you will need to explain why you have proposed the changes. Boud (talk) 18:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
The Texas subsection was much, much smaller when I originally suggested this edit. But even looking at it just now, there is sourced information in my suggestion that more up to date than some of the article text. Specifically the fact that criminal charges were dropped against all 57 individuals arrested at the UT Austin campus. Durchbruchmüller20:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
At this moment, outside our dorm windows, UT is experiencing another mass protest today where students are even camping out on the main tower lawn. Could this be added to the page? UnrealJett (talk) 21:48, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
@UnrealJett: If you can find a source, sure. On a side note, would you be able and willing to take a picture of the protest to illustrate the Texas portion of this article? It's fine if you can't, though. Thanks. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!02:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
I have a lot of pictures personally taken and I can give you two or three to choose from if you'd like. I would really like others to see what's going on on our side. Irisoptical (talk) 10:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Feel free to upload them at c:Special:UploadWizard. If you're more comfortable with social media sites, you can post it to Twitter/Reddit/whatever with an accompanying message saying "I agree to publish this image under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International licence."
Universities in the United States with Israel–Hamas war protests since April 2024. Columbia University is marked in red. Other colleges that had encampments are marked in green, and non-encampment protests are marked in blue.
Hey all,
With regards to this map, I think we should somehow indicate for the readers what the difference is between the red icons, blue icons, and the green icons (what do the differing colour labels even mean)? At present, the labels are not explained even when you click on or enlarge the map.
I'm not familiar with how the data is inputted and populated into these maps. Could someone either share how to edit the map with me, or alternatively, add it themselves? Cheers, FlipandFlopped ツ21:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I've been doing most of the editing on the map. This map's data is stored on Wikimedia Commons here, while the display is on Wikipedia. The green represents colleges with encampments (aside from Columbia) and the blue represents colleges that had other protests. I had written that in Wikimedia Commons, but didn't realize it didn't display that on Wikipedia. I just edited the template on Wikipedia and so it should display the key now.
As for the colleges that don't appear on the map, I think that just has to do with a delay in the map display. I noticed a few times that I would add an item to the map, but it wouldn't display that point unless the map was enlarged. If you click the map to enlarge it, it should display the up-to-date info.
Great map! Although might I suggest making the pins smaller dots? As many locations are so close together, especially in the Northeast, a lot of them overlap and lose their utility without zooming in. Having small, different colored circles/dots, I believe, would greatly help with legibility. BootsED (talk) 01:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
I like the idea but I'm not sure how to change the size of the points. If anyone reading knows how to change the size of the points could you do that? TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 17:57, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
The MOS:LEADSENTENCE was recently updated to: "On April 17, 2024, a series of anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian Israel–Hamas war protests began on university campuses in the United States."diff
For context, the quote in the reference: "Pro-Palestinian student activists say their movement is anti-Zionist but not antisemitic" This comes from Columbia protesters, that aren't representative of all the protests for starters. refarchive
So should we be describing all these protests as anti-Zionist in the opening sentence based on protesters from Columbia's opinion?
We could do with more sources to back up this description in a non-ref bomb type way at minimum. It doesn't seem accurate to label all the protests as anti-Zionist, which is why you don't predominantly see reliable sources referencing the protests as such.
"organized by anti-Zionist groups" would be more accurate in my opinion, with suitable RS to cover those claims, as well as better suited to the MOS:OPEN for context sake and to avoid an overloaded first sentence. Thoughts?
PS - @BootsED was there any reason you reverted the cite bundle I created in the diff reference above? The reference for anti-Zionist isn't even an accusation of antisemitism either, it's a discussion and defence of it, so at present it's WP:REFBOMB territory, hence why I excluded it when creating the ref bundle. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 15:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi Community!
As to the cite bundle, it was not my intention to revert it. (My mistake!) I actually think it's great and thanked you for the edit.
Regarding the anti-Zionist claim, a couple of sources in the media have referred to the protests as anti-Zionist. This article from Reuters goes into how "decades-old anti-Zionism advocacy groups that protest Israel's military occupation have chapters across the country that have been key to protests on other campuses." We also have multiple news sources describing how protestors on other campuses have said things such as Globalize the Intifada and espouse anti-Zionist phrases and demands. Furthermore, the protests are part of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement as cited by the page, and which the movement self-identifies as anti-Zionist. With this in mind, I included anti-Zionist in the lead, although your proposal of "organized by anti-Zionist groups" also is accurate. It was my reasoning that putting "anti-Zionist" would be more succinct and cover both the groups, phrases and demands used by students at the protests. BootsED (talk) 16:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Another follow up, it is my understanding that the NYTimes article that was removed from the cite bundle should be included in it, as it goes quite in depth over the claims of antisemitism levied against the protestors by a variety of groups and individuals. BootsED (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Where specifically in that article does it reference protesters criticised for antisemitism? Also the second reference used, [8]archive is an opinion piece by a Columbia professor. Per WP:NYT this comes under WP:RSOPINION, hence should only be included with WP:INTEXT. More problematic though is the extended quote from the author is: "I find it very hard to imagine that they are antisemitic". That's definitely not criticising the protests as antisemitic at all and should be removed as is false attribution. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 17:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi Community,
In regards to your second comment about the opinion piece, I never wanted to state in wiki voice that the protests are antisemitic, but that "several protests have been criticized for" antisemitism. Not that all protests or protestors are antisemitic. In the same piece you point out, it is true that he says he finds it hard to believe that all protesters are antisemitic, but right under that he says "some of the rhetoric amid the protests crosses it" and describes how not all have been peaceful and some have specifically targeted Jewish students. In the other pieces provided in that cite bundle, more specific claims of antisemitism have been made. I agree, that potentially writing something along the lines of, "In an opinion piece for The New York Times, Columbia professor John McWhorter wrote that in regards to protestors, he found it "very hard to imagine that they are antisemitic" but that there is "a fine line between questioning Israel’s right to exist and questioning Jewish people’s right to exist" and that "some of the rhetoric amid the protests crosses it." This I think can deliver some more nuance to the statement that you pointed out.
Per this edit [9], I've added in this article, removed the opinion piece, and added in this one(archive) as well. If anything, this article would be better as a counter to the claims. I.e. "the protesters say they are anti-Zionist but not antisemitic." I otherwise think are only so many articles from the same publisher to add to a cite bundle. Adding more references from the same source doesn't add any extra weight to the claim imo. Usually cite bundles are made up of references from different sources for specifically this reason it seems. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 18:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Great. I've added moved the "anti-Zionist" description from the first sentence to the opening paragraph regarding the Columbia protests: "The protests emerged in response to mass arrests at the Columbia University pro-Palestinian campus occupation, where protesters sought for the university to divest from Israel, as part of a movement organized by anti-Zionist groups", given your reply that "your proposal of "organized by anti-Zionist groups" also is accurate". Both Reuters and NYT appear to attribute this to Columbia, as opposed to the broader protests, so for now I'd say it's due related to this only. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 20:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Could we come back to the claims of "calls for the destruction of Israel"? The sources all document antisemitism, but I didn't see anything specifically for the destruction of a Israel, hence tags added for now. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 22:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
I see this was part of the ref bundle, but better with it's own quote and ref it seems. I've added WP:INTEXT for this claim in the body in order to WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV, as this is the opinion of one U.S. representative. As with all other very specific opinions documented in response, I don't see it as lead worthy. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 10:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Protests were held and encampments were established at the University of Wisconsin–Madison and University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee on April 29.
Edit to:
On April 29, a protest was held, and an encampment was established at the University of Wisconsin-Madison by the University of Wisconsin-Madison Chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine and the Young Democratic Socialists of America. University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee established their encampment on the same day.
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Edit Request: Expand on Law Enforcement and Possible Army National Guard response to College Protests and Counter-Response by Protesters.
Edit Request: Expand on Law Enforcement and Possible Army National Guard response to College Protests and Counter-Response by Protesters.
1) What tactics did police/LEOs use in response to protestors? How they treated peaceful obedient protestors, violent protesters, non-violent civil disobedient protesters, the press, and neutral bystanders.
2) What tactics did protesters (and possibly counter-protesters) use against police or other governmental authorities or university authorities? For example, the California State Polytechnic University, Humboldt (Cal Poly Humboldt) barricade where police were pushed back and had to withdraw until a later time. DC Police declining George Washington University President's request to remove or forcibly remove peaceful protesters (see Washington, D.C. section for more details).
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Edit Request: University of Utah sources
I wanted to add some additional sources to the protest currently occurring in Utah. Original reporting from local students:
It seems as though 5 protestors got arrested on FSU's campus encampment Monday morning. Judging by further news articles that have come out since the original source was used, it seems the sprinkler incident caused the protest to simply relocate and continue, not ending it.
Pro-Israel Counter-protesters + Article Title Change, accusations of espionage, doxxing, and advocating/lobbying for warrantless surveillance of college students by Pro-Israel groups.
Pro-Israel Counter-protesters + Article Title Change
We need to flush out some more information about Pro-Israel counter-protesters and also change the name of the article to "2024 Israel-Palestine protests on university campuses."
Accusations of Espionage on college campuses by U.S.-based Pro-Israel group on behalf of Israeli government, intelligence services and foreign affairs.
There appears to be little historical context in this article, to include (1) a brief history of Israel and its forced migration of Palestinians and (2) the history of US higher education, its long-standing role in supporting establishment causes (genocide, slavery, wars, global climate change), and the history of student movements to counter oppression (the Vietnam War, South African apartheid and divestment). Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 20:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Keene State College to be added to the Wikimap of protesting colleges
Students at Keene State College in Keene New Hampshire organized a protest and it must be added to the Wikimap of protesting colleges with a blue marker. Quertie420 (talk) 14:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Encampment beginning at La Trobe University, Australia next Tuesday, 7 May
Hi, there's not currently a WP:RS for it, but La Trobe University will be holding an encampment from 7 May to 9 May (I've been told there's a potential to extend it, but its not a large uni such as University of Melbourne or University of Sydney so there might not be as many people to sustain it for weeks as they are doing. Here is an instagram post announcing it, there should be WP:RS in the future.[1]MarkiPoli (talk) 17:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
First sentence of the second paragraph of the lead section contains the phrase "began occupying campuses" when it more accurately should read "began occupying spaces on campuses". Current phrasing implies students physically occupied entire campuses in protest. Gorvus the thumb (talk) 03:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Protests at SUNY New Paltz
At Suny New Paltz, a peaceful protest was forcibly broken up by riot police after they refused to disperse:
Edit Request: Washington, D.C. section -- University of Maryland, College Park (UMD) missing from DC section + MPD response to GWU President + other changes [Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 May 2024]
-- Also, let's add more information about why the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia (MPD) rejected George Washington University President's request to remove the protesters. Some of the sources that have already been cited, plus others we can cite, say that MPD/D.C. officials rejected the request because the protesters [(at least at the time)] were protesting peacefully and police did not want to antagonize them nor recreate the same optics surrounding the Teargassing and Clearing of Peaceful Protesters at Lafayette Square during the Donald Trump photo op at St. John's Church. --
[Note to Talk Page Readers: American University (AU) and the University of Maryland, College Park (UMD) are mentioned twice in the whole article because they had protests on their campus but later on joined the joint DMV SJP encampment at GW's campus in Foggy Bottom. In UMD's case, its on-campus protest is mentioned in the Maryland section while its joint protest at the Foggy Bottom, Washington, D.C. encampment should be mentioned in the Washington, D.C. section. Also keep in mind that University of Maryland, College Park (UMD) and University of Maryland, Baltimore County (UMBC) are two separate universities with similar names that joined the Foggy Bottom protest (this may have confused an editor which may be the reason why it was omitted).]
It's good to see so much effort included in this article. I hope that in documenting and editing this phenomenon that we do not lose sight of history, much of which has been lost through questionable (uncritical) scholarship and selective editing. I am particularly amazed at how poorly student protest and other forms of student resistance have been documented in Wikipedia, but perhaps I shouldn't have. Student protests in the 1920s and 1930s, for example, have barely been examined, despite their historic role in US civil rights. What happened in between those years and the 1960s is made invisible. Even student and faculty resistance from the 1960s to the present is poorly documented. How this article is edited, and possibly included in higher-level articles on Higher education in the United States and History of higher education in the United States will be interesting, especially if the events are part of a broader popular movement. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 16:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
If you have sufficient high-quality sources to create an article on US student protests of the 1920s and 1930s and their notable role in US civil rights, then please go ahead. Student protests in October 1964 in Sudan and police repression evolved into a general strike and the October 1964 Revolution, the first of three protest-triggered revolutions (2nd = 1985 Sudanese coup d'état; 3rd = 2018/2019 Sudanese revolution), but the first is only barely covered in a few paragraphs of Wikipedia. There are plenty of Wikipedia articles on significant content that nobody has had the time for or found the sources for - yet. Boud (talk) 12:23, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2024
Additional schools have been added to the protest list. In Illinois, we have protests at the University of Chicago, Northwestern University, and the School of the Art Institute of Chicago, the final of which experienced multiple arrests today. I am requesting to add these schools to the list Hsmorgane (talk) 07:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Separate article for the May 1st Pro-Israeli attack at UCLA?
Since it was a notable event in the campus protests across the United States. There is also so much more information not included in the section of the UCLA article. I feel like The New York Times did a great job depicting the timeline of events (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/03/us/ucla-protests-encampment-violence.html), which can be used as a reference. Seeing as the governor of California and the UC president are expressing desire for an investigation of campus police and the LAPD, we could see much more information in the coming months. I also posted this on the UCLA campus occupation article's talk page. Thoughts or suggestions? Kokaynegeesus (talk) 20:25, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
I already posted this on the List of protests article here, but I figure I'd repost here.
I see that aside from Columbia, articles have been written for the encampments at Portland State, Sciences Po, UCLA, and University of Oregon. Are there other individual encampments that have gotten enough coverage to have their own seperate articles? Personally, I think USC, Cal Poly Humboldt, UT Austin, and maybe a couple others have enough notability for articles, but I'd like to hear what others think. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 20:55, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2024 (2)
Add "At Fordham University, fifteen students including law students were arrested in front of the Leon Lowenstein Center on W 60th St the morning of May 1st." Laughtermaster (talk) 16:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Change the short description from "Series of war protests on US campuses" to "Series of war protests on campuses in North America, Europe, and Australia" because this is no longer just in the United States. Mariwlqs (talk) 03:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Should material be added about today's police raid at UCSD on their encampment? Their encampment had been entirely peaceful with no incidents between protesters and outside individuals, and yet, after needed expansion of the encampment due to overcrowding due to the university canceling the annual music festival due to the protest and people joining the protest in solidarity who otherwise would have been at said music festival, the university cited this expansion, as well as the encampment refusing entry to police and fire marshalls, as an act of aggression and sent in armed riot police and border patrol, arrested 40 students and 24 non-students, and dismantled the encampment, and the chancellor basically shut the entire west campus down, forced all classes online-only, and instituted a state of police martial law for the following 25 hours. 68.8.84.138 (talk) 02:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Please add what you have, with sources, on the list page here. I've already added some, but not as much as you have. Kire1975 (talk) 04:59, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
At the end of the other countries section it says "This was met with ridicule from the Yemeni public." but that's not in the source at all. Anyone with permissions wanna change that? Gabecube45 (talk) 17:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
As this article is now evolving to a more encyclopedic format, one of the key questions a reader will ask is "To what degree did the protests lead to divestment from Israel?" At least some US universities have to some degree accepted this demand by the protestors. Some of this info is probably in the Reactions section, but would be worth a section either in the Overview section or as a subsection of Responses / United States. Boud (talk) 11:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
I never found must content on this, but slowly it's surfacing, even if in a very vague manner [12]. I think it'd make sure sense as a sub-section of Overview, as an Effects section, rather than in Response (which is broadly more opinion based than fact based). CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 18:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Overview/Effects sounds reasonable. That ref states "Brown, Northwestern and Rutgers" agreements as "standing out". A couple of other refs adding depth to that and that look usable:
Done Thanks for that last reference, that covers it well, so I made a start on an Effects section. Possibly it should be renamed to Impact though. Will add content from Irish Times when I find a moment. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 17:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
If there is enough content sure. Otherwise it should probably go into the Participants section. One reference doesn't look like it'd be enough for an entire section though. Do you have more sources available? CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 17:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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What I think should be changed: Change all instances of "Israel-Hamas war protests", such as the one in the map caption, to "pro-Palestinian protests".
Why it should be changed: Many protestors would say that they are not protesting the Israel-Hamas war, but rather the genocide and war crimes committed by the IDF and the occupation of Palestine. Further, the article title already uses "pro-Palestinian" instead of "Israel-Hamas war", and the rest of the article should be changed to align with that.
Agreed. The Israel-Hamas war is a biased frame that favors the Palestinian genocide. Israel is a nation state while Hamas is a political party. Most of the casualties have little or no affiliation with Hamas. Do we know what percentage of US protesters support Hamas? Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Disagree. From searching the term, the references to Israel–Hamas war include "as a part of wider Israel–Hamas war protests" in the lead and in the background, which is very much accurate. Do you have other examples I'm missing? Pro-Palestinian protests is otherwise references numerous times, more so than Israel–Hamas war protests. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 17:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Agreed. At this point, I think a lot of readers would have trouble considering "Israel-Hamas War" as neutral framing, no matter how many NYT articles say otherwise. Snokalok (talk) 10:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
References
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Can we make a table of universities, number of faculty arrests, student arrests, etc?
Vanderbilt University Occupation in Background Section?
In this chronology, the Vanderbilt University 20 hour-occupation, which involved multiple arrests, suspensions, and expulsions seems to be ignored. It's mentioned in a NY Times article that discusses administrative tactics. According to the NYT "Vanderbilt University issued what are believed to be the first student expulsions over protests related to the Israel-Hamas conflict." While the NY Times did not tell the full story from a student perspective, it does seem to be important. [18]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/us/politics/colleges-protests-israel-war.htmlCollegemeltdown2 (talk) 01:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Please add this:-
It was claimed that Rockefeller Brothers Fund, WESPAC, George Soros and Howard Horowitz were funding the protests through the Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), American Muslims for Palestine (AMP), Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) and others but these were denied by the foundations of Soros.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7]DieAchtung (talk) 19:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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Request title change to include the word "college"
I suggest that the title be renamed "2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university and college campuses." This new title would be more inclusive, and it may also be easier to find using search engines. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 13:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
College doesn't mean universities most of the time, the term in the U.S. is different to the rest of the world, so the title would be inaccurate. It mainly describes further and secondary education. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 09:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Just to let you know, now that I've established the Impacts section, it's on my radar to include a counter-protests section as is very much due. If you you could provide any more RS it'd be much appreciated. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 23:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Why was "student protest" removed from see also section?
Why was the student protest link removed from see also section? The US already has such a myopic understanding of the situation in terms of time and space. The media can only go back to Columbia University 1968, if that, to make comparisons. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 16:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
So how do readers make connections between the present and the relevant past if it relies only on the memories of those who are living? Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 23:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add citation need after the protest "led by anti-Zionist groups"
As the title suggest, the framing of the pro-palestine protestors as anti-zionist is misleading and there are no secondary sources supporting that's was the reason for the protestors 212.29.194.49 (talk) 17:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
The headline of 9 sources disagree with it and labeled them as "pro-palestine", not ant-zionist, this is clearly not how the protestors wish to be labeled and in face a "white wash" label of the protest. 212.29.194.49 (talk) 18:07, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
i posted this a few days ago and i see the images have been updated but the legend has not been corrected. the fifth image in the article’s info box, clockwise from top, is mcgill university, not monash university. would edit it myself but i only have ~ 350 edits :( ApplePiePoliceState (talk) 04:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
The undue weight tag says "legislation not directly associated with the protests, as the protests aren't referenced as a cause for this legislation.". It was pretty clear to me before, but I've added an NPR story that says "House passes bill aimed to combat antisemitism amid college unrest". @User:CommunityNotesContributor's concern is addressed. Can we get a consensus to remove the tag now please? Kire1975 (talk) 04:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Yes protests, not specifically campus protests. Why wouldn't this be featured at Israel–Hamas war protests in the United States and summarised here. Are you suggesting that it is exclusively to do with the campus protests and not protests overall? That section is fast starting to look like a WP:CONTENTFORK of the Legislation section I just referenced. Can you justify why there is such a content fork?
This isn't about being bold. Why would I go through a dozen sources to to find the connection with campus protests, when someone who has contributed significant amount to that section resolve the issue? As a reminder, the burden is on the editor to prove the relevance of content in an article, not the reader. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 13:10, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Done with this edit [24]. No further questions, I only hope there is no copyright infringement or claims given the image has done the rounds on Twitter and elsewhere. Thanks for providing the image. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 21:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Thank you very much for adding this image! I will point out there is a small error in the text underneath the image. It says "at the Ohio State University libraries", but it should just say "at the Ohio State University"! I do not know what libraries the caption is referring to. Thank you again for your response. Gabetucker2 (talk) 02:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Analysis of strategies of university presidents and mayors
Have we documented the different strategies that college presidents and mayors have used, and the number that have used specific strategies, such as using local police (police outside the campus, like the NYPD)? Do we know if any university presidents have called for the National Guard? I thought this statement in the Harvard Crimson was interesting. "Harvard’s actions contrast with at least 50 other colleges and universities across the country that have asked local authorities to arrest or detain student protesters." Talk:2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campusesCollegemeltdown2 (talk) 18:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Proposal to add video of Ohio State violence to Wiki page.
Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this video. I will leave it to the judgement of accredited Wiki editors whether this video is suitable for the "Controversy/Violence against protesters" section of the article. Gabetucker2 (talk) 03:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
I will post this video on the talk page there. Thank you for your suggestion and for the work you've been doing keeping this page up-to-date! Gabetucker2 (talk) 20:47, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 May 2024
@CommunityNotesContributor: I didn't know till you replied here and I believe other readers will also be wondering what, "intifada" means, so I suggest you add, "pro-Palestinian uprising" in brackets, just after the term, "intifada".-49.205.131.36 (talk) 12:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure the format is to not to use links in title, which student intifada would come under, not that I can find the reference admittedly. So it'd have to be something like – "student intifada", as part of the pro-Palestininan uprising known as an intifada – or similar, which to me sounds like a lot of wordiness compared to using a simple note. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 18:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
I think the notes and references there are fine. Student Intifada seems to redirect to the same article, so boldface is appropriate. See "article title terms" at MOS:B. Kire1975 (talk) 05:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 May 2024
Not done The reference is to "Pro-Palestinian and Jewish student protesters", which is accurate per RS, it does not reference or represent "Columbia Jewish students", which is a completely difficult subset of individuals. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 00:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
I don’t see why this shouldn’t be rephrased as just “Pro-Palestinian student protesters at Columbia have insisted the protests are not antisemitic” because including the word Jewish suggests that most Jewish students on campus think the protests are not antisemitic (a narrative). Indeed, as referenced in the NYT article, many Jews on campus do believe the protests are antisemitic. 71.179.129.209 (talk) 07:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Because the source clearly states "Jewish student protesters", and the context is very relevant. Including the word Jewish does not suggest a generalisation at all. It's otherwise well documented in the body tunder Antisemitism allegations section that that most Jewish students believe the protests are antisemitic (61% specifically), although this content could be summarised in the lead at this point. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 11:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
agreed. hillel is fairly pro-israeli, so IDK if i believe all of their numbers are as high as they are, but i do believe some majority of jewish students probably are against protests.
I think the change made to the article is an improvement.
However, just because the source includes information to create a narrative, doesn’t mean that the information should also be included in the Wiki to create the same narrative. It is irrelevant if some Jews believe it is not antisemitic. There will always be Blacks and Jews who support the KKK, but including that in an article about claims that the KKK is racist and antisemitic is clearly trying to delegitimize the claims and is not a neutral representation. That is even a complaint by the Columbia Jewish students: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/nyregion/columbia-university-jewish-students-letter.html71.179.129.209 (talk) 05:56, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
I think it's also misleading or not neutral at best to say that people "insisted" that the protests weren't anti-semitic. "Insist" is usually used when someone denies something continuously. Even if one believes that's not the case, I recommend using "continuously stated" or "continuously expressed" to avoid any confusion and keep neutrality. Kakaeater (talk) 18:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
The statement “Protesters have also faced violence at the hands of pro-Israeli counter-protesters” would be more neutral if phrased as “Protesters also clashed with pro-Israeli counter-protesters.” 71.179.129.209 (talk) 03:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
That wouldn't be neutral, that would be a POV based on ignoring the RS reporting that pro-Israeli protesters have violently attacked protesters. The lead otherwise summarises the body. That is a summary of the body. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 11:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Have improved by replacing that source with The Guardian coverage "UCLA chancellor condemns 'instigators' who attacked pro-Palestinian camp on campus" [25] Hopefully that clarifies it better based on sourcing, I had previously taken the source for student journalists being attacked, but this reference is much more accurate. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:27, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
So you removed a neutral source in favor of a source that supports a narrative. This is why Wikipedia has such a poor reputation. 71.179.129.209 (talk) 21:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
A highly polarizing series of events will inevitably get reactions from highly polarizing figures haha. Personally, I consider Ayatollah is just as bad as most of the other regional power actors too haha.
The article is written badly in my opinion and this is the direct outcome of hastily moving of the page from a highly notable title to a broader but less notable one. Most of the page is dedicated to the developments in the US, while there are ongoing protests occurring theses days across the globe in the university campuses. Every section of the article, including the lead, needs to be modified so it lends due weight to incidents outside the US.--Mhhosseintalk16:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
I assume you mean moving from US protests to broader international context? This wasn't a hasty move but the result of a WP:SNOW close requested move discussion with broad consensus, as the protests had expanded beyond the United States by this point, so it was entirely logical.
Most of the page is dedicated to the United States, because this is WP:DUE based on the weight of RS content. Yes there have been protests in other countries, notably Australia, the Netherlands and the UK, but there hasn't been anywhere near half as much coverage (or protests) outside the US. This is also evident based the size of the U.S. list vs the International list, the former being twice the size of the latter (if you include the California list) to the word count). The most notable aspects being mass arrests in Amsterdam that is referenced in the lead followed by numerous protests in UK, Australia and Canada, again referenced in lead.
That said, I recognise there is significant improvement that could occur in the lead to better summarise the body. Per WP:SUMMARY, the lead should be a summary of this article, not the child articles previously referenced, which should merely be referenced in the lead with a wikilink included, which is currently the case. Two paragraphs from this lead were moved to the list of U.S. protests, specifically because they were a summary of that body, and no longer a summary of this article's body. I understand the argument of this article lead being a summary of the article and all child articles, but personally I think this would be repetition of the child article leads that serve this purpose.
I intend to work on improving the lead to move away further from a U.S. scope, as there are certainly other aspects that could/should be included (specifically the Netherlands and possibly Australia). There is also a slanted focus on summarising controversies I noticed (lots of antisemitism and not much on anything else), so I intend to fix that as well. But otherwise, this article is effectively an overview of the protests themselves, not intended to be a full documentation of all the protests (which is what the list articles are for). CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Care to respond @Mhhossein? Certain edits have been made to broaden the scope, but there doesn't seem like much else is left to include based on available due content from RS. See Responses section in particular, with content moved from the List of protests article, documenting responses in Australia and the UK, that is very much due. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 22:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
@CommunityNotesContributor Sorry for the delay. I am not objecting the move which is apprently backed by a consensus. I don't think DUE coverage was given to important POVs and I understand that this requires more work. --Mhhosseintalk11:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —Sirdog (talk) 06:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Done. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 01:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Already done ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 13:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Not done: — hako9 (talk) 03:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Note: There is no consensus on the reliability of Democracy Now, and attribution is recommended if it is used as a source. It would probably be best to use a different source, which should be easy to find since this has been widely covered.
Done
.....But now the page has been moved with a title restricted to 'US',,,,can we address this? @CommunityNotesContributor and Makeandtoss:-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
(As for overcite, feel free to remove the sources you think redundant)
Agree I do not yet see significant coverage (for notability) of protests outside the US to have it's own article as it were. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 12:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done as this website (while interesting) isn't a reliable source. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 15:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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Comment: I think this might be better placed in List of pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States in 2024 under the Ohio section. Apart from the rooftop sniper reference, there isn't anything else specifically about the police response in Ohio in this article. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 12:01, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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