Talk:Bette Midler

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Clean Up[edit]

These two sentences under "1990-2000: Continued Success" are grammatically off and don't make sense; can someone who knows what "and a piano soon after" means fix these?

  Another memorable event occurred that night, Midler began singing
  "Here's That Rainy Day," Carson's favorite song. Carson then joined
  a few lyrics later, and a piano soon after.

Jwarhol (talk) 21:15, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

At the very least, can someone fix the "charted singles" section. It looks so...nasty. I'm not familiar enough with the website/html to create a chart...76.112.102.98 11:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

This is the thinnest bio of Bette I've ever read. What about her guest appearance on Murphy Brown? Or a more complete list of award nominations/wins? There are a lot of holes to be filled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.191.140.101 (talk) 20:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


There is no mention of her in the movie "Isn't She Great" with Nathan Lane based on the events of the life of Jacqueline Susann the author of Valley of the Dolls. Please update this information to be included! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.192.10.50 (talk) 22:55, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

The "Bette" TV show[edit]

I came here to look up stuff about the "Bette" TV show that aired in 2000; particularly about its ratings and why it was cancelled so soon. If anyone could add something about it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Eje211 11:09, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

I can't believe we don't have a picture for Bette Midler. There's got to be a picture that's GFDL friendly. Guy M (soapbox) 05:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

I tagged the article, and left a request at Wikipedia:Requested pictures. Hopefully someone has something suitable. Michael 08:30, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

This picture of Bette Midler is 11 years old! There has to be a new picture of her that we can use on her page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.30.125 (talk) 23:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Divine Madness Link[edit]

Just Noting that the link to the Album Divine Madness refers to an album by Madness (band).

Misc[edit]

Maybe all the redlinks be removed and just left as plain text?
-- KaiAdin 12:56, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Not unless you know that all of them are unworthy of articles! WP is a work in progress; don't disrupt that part of the work just bcz it isn't done.
--Jerzyt 21:29, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Red links? I'm working on some of them, although they keep getting quick deleted. Surely a sub stub when clicking on them is better than a page saying "BEEEEP does not exist" JayKeaton 06:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

In any case I've been recreating them with JUST enough info in them to escape the evil deleting machine JayKeaton 06:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Birthplace[edit]

Was she born in NJ or on Oahu? Both are stated in the biography, which is impossible.
Guille 09:51, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Bootleg Betty has a thorough bio w/ the HI PoB, and Bette Midler on IMDb agrees. Changed accordingly.
--Jerzyt 21:29, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Allmusic.com lists Paterson, New Jersey as her birthplace. Does anyone has access to books or other offline records that could help solve this mystery?--Alphae 17:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Seems like it's a misunderstanding that her parents were from Paterson, but she was born in Honolulu. I found a Dec. 4, 1973 NY Times article that begins "Despite Bette Midler's Honolulu birthplace, New York has always regarded her as homegrown and hometown." I found a later 1978 NY Times profile that stated "daughter of a house painter from Honolulu by way of Paterson, N.J... The family originally settled there, she said, when her father selected it as the place farthest away from his domineering mother in Paterson, N.J. The Circumstances of her birth have given Midler a series of one-liners about being the only Jewish girl in a Samoan Neighborhood." BETTE MIDLER GOES HOLLYWOOD by Warren Hoge Dec 10, 1978. p. SM26 Ando228 17:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
These sound like good references to add in. Wikipedia:Citation templates is quite helpful if you want to add these as footnotes.-- Ashley VH 19:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

IT seems from the above and from http://www.e-hawaii.com/stars/index/bette_midler/default.htm that born and raised in HI is the fact. I changed the text, though the info box is already correct.Rsugden (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Allmusic is a reliable source, and it now says Honolulu.[ http://www.allmusic.com/artist/bette-midler-mn0000053739/biography] WIkipedia disallows IMDB for biographical claims, and e-Hawaii appears to be a commercial, non-journalistic site, with the link given just above no longer active. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:26, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Compilation albums[edit]

Somebody had placed her Rosemary Clooney, Peggy Lee, and Xmas albums in the "compilations" section when these are actually studio albums. A compilation album is a collection of work that the same artist has already previously recorded and released (such as "Experience The Divine" is a compilation of Midler's greatest hits). MassassiUK 08:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

"Feud" with Manilow[edit]

Reference? Source? Can't find any other evidence of a 'feud"- either it should be sourced or changed. 216.194.2.75 (talk) 02:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

The Best Of Bette[edit]

Tour by Bette Midler 2012: The Best Of Bette

Awards[edit]

The opening paragraph says she won 4 Golden Globes, however the filmography here, and the imdb.com page list only three wins. UndDerMarlena (talk) 12:16, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

4 golden globes 2 for the rose, 1 for for the boys and 1 for gypsy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.124.76.227 (talk) 23:55, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Salary for Showgirl Must go On[edit]

Midler had a Vegas show entitled Bette Midler: The Showgirl Must Go On at The Colosseum at Caesars Palace. The show comprised The Staggering Harlettes, 20 female dancers called The Caesar Salad Girls and a 13-piece band. Midler was reportedly paid $120 million per year for her 200 shows.[29]

$120 million seemed like a crazy number and the citation doesn't actually say that (or anything about how much she made) but probably references the lines immediately before it. $120 is so far disputable then, and I'm going to guess it means to say a number significantly lower since --no one-- is making that much money for a show in Vegas. 12.162.122.5 (talk) 19:24, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

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Awards[edit]

I think there should be a section of her awards and nominations similar to what was done in the grammys section.

Up to date photo[edit]

I think there should be a new up to date photo of Bette since this one is 20 years old such as this one http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=bette+midler&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1024&bih=763&tbs=isz:m&tbm=isch&tbnid=zTQ094-d1XWiKM:&imgrefurl=http://www.celebritiesheight.com/bette-midler-height-and-weight/&docid=EG9fcerKPNyYCM&imgurl=http://www.celebritiesheight.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Bette-Midler.jpg&w=398&h=600&ei=E_A3T_-4FKOu0QW58dTEAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=93&vpy=211&dur=589&hovh=276&hovw=183&tx=121&ty=135&sig=116378058650465294149&page=2&tbnh=133&tbnw=89&start=19&ndsp=35&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:19 This is her at the premiere of the 2004 film stepford wives Betteisdivine (talk) 17:03, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done, we can't just copy a photo from another website, it's against copyright. They need to be uploaded and meet our copyright requirements--Jac16888 Talk 17:18, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Birthplace Pt 2[edit]

Her birthplace appears to be disputed, and the only source for Honolulu is the search page for a subscription site. Wikipedia disallows search pages (as opposed to search results) as a reference source. I'm removing the disallowed cite and add a cite-request tag. In addition, how would a genealogy site support a claim about how much her parents paid to rent a house? --Tenebrae (talk) 19:22, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Two RS cites added for Honolulu. All good. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:34, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on this Tenebrae. I have seen a couple other errors by that "Filmreference.com" website over the years so I am not sure how reliable they are. One thing - I am not seeing where you added into the article the two references that you found. Please feel free to do so and you might even remove the one that says NJ but I will leave that up to you. Thanks again and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 03:26, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi, MarnetteD. It's been a while . Hope you're well. I added the cites under "Early life and family." And actually, FilmReference is much more reliable than a lot of sites precisely because it aggregates bibliographic sources that it cites at the bottom of each page, and unlike many places will note discrepancies in those sources. That last in itself makes it valuable. I've seen errors at TV Guide, Biography.com, books and elsewhere, so that's an unfortunate part of any research sourcing. But thank you for the kind words! --Tenebrae (talk) 18:34, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Heehee I am such a maroon (old Bugs Bunny cartoon reference) Tenebrae. I was looking at the edits that came after this one and completely missed that you had added the refs in question before. So I just have to say good work again. MarnetteD|Talk 19:16, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. And I totally get "What a maroon!"   : )   --Tenebrae (talk) 19:26, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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