Talk:Cecil Day-Lewis

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Irish/British??[edit]

Did Day Lewis indicate anywhere in his writings whether he considered himself Irish as he is currently in the categories English Poets Laureate and English mystery writers? Arniep 15:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

The fact that he was born in Ireland is evidence that he was Irish.

Yes, like his son who was born in England and calls himself Irish. As does Shane Macgowan, also born in England. Easy, isn't it? Ausseagull (talk) 10:49, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

The Oxford Professor of Poetry does not"teach poetry". His sole commitment is to deliver a fixed number of lectures. They could be great events, but they were not "teaching".Delahays (talk) 10:05, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 13:19, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

This otherwise excellent biography needs more material on Day-Lewis's actual poetry[edit]

This article mostly succeeds as a biography. However, it includes precious little information on the nature of Day-Lewis's poetry. What were his poems like, aside from their early resemblance to Auden's? Their style? Their form? Their content? Their titles? Short excerpts from their well-known -- or just emotionally/intellectually moving -- poetic works?

When I read about other prominent poets (past and present) on Wikipedia, I get some idea about what their poetry is like, how it is/was received by the poet's contemporaries, whom the poet influenced, etc. Here there is a comprehensive discussion of his alter-ego as an author of detective thrillers, but surely that is not what got him named Poet Laureate.

All this discussion of his personal life and the impressive people he was related to -- but where did Day-Lewis fit in the 20th-Century poetic pantheon? And for that matter, was he any good? It would be great if someone with professional or avocational literary expertise would weigh in here. By "here" of course I mean the article, not this Talk page ... --Erasistratus1 (talk) 23:23, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Agree entirely - especially as he was regarded as one of a group, including MacNeice and Spender. Valetude (talk) 13:24, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Anglo-Irish (again)[edit]

Hi, recently an editor removed a piece that said Day-Lewis regarded himself as Anglo-Irish as it had a "citation required" tag for a number of years. The section was re-added with a reference pointing it to a book published by "Bloomsbury Reader". This edition of the book was published in 2012 as an e-book. The "Note on the Author" from this book is used as the reference. There's a number of problems with this as a source, which should be cleared up before adding that section back to the article. The first is that for some weird time-warped reason, the book published in 2012 uses the exact same phrasing that was placed in the article in November 2010. Also, "Bloomsbury Reader" isn't the same as "Bloomsbury Publishing", but a company related to them to sell a back catalogue of titles in e-book and on-demand format, representing a selection of authors and estates represented by literary agency "The Rights House". The section in the e-book on the author is not attributed to anyone, so I can only assume they copied it from somewhere - perhaps the same source that was used to introduce the original unreferenced piece into the article in 2010? I originally thought it might have been taken from the "goodreads" site, but on checking that site, it seems someone copied the "facts" into that site sometime in November 2011. So it looks to me, in the absence of any references, that the text from Wikipedia has found it's way to other places. --HighKing (talk) 21:09, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

As I was the original remover, I will make one quick comment the search of the removed section shows exactly to the "Tangled Web" link, so someone cpied someone else, I was unsure of the chicken or the egg, but as HighKing has indicated above the trail leads to wiki being the egg. Murry1975 (talk) 21:18, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
The book details give the publisher as 'Bloomsbury Publishing' which is a major publishing house. Span (talk) 21:40, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
The book cover (in your link) gives the publisher as "Bloomsbury Reader". Doesn't matter who the publisher is in any case, if it doesn't attribute the "About the Author" piece within the book to a (person) reliable source that predates the entry (using the exact same phrases) in this article. --HighKing (talk) 22:57, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Some history searching brings up two edits. The first an IP edit adding this material, in 2007- I will get back to that. And a second edit changing it to the way it has been since, from 2008. No publication, web or otherwise that I can find that uses this/these phrasings pre-dates this edit. Murry1975 (talk) 14:25, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

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