Talk:Daniel J. Evans

Claiming my edits

The 69.17.114.183 edits were mine; I was apparently not logged in. - Jmabel | Talk 20:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Tables

I've done my best to clean up the election tables, which were a total mess. There still appears to be a problem with the State Legislative election numbers: there are two legislative representatives for each district, and the list here seems to include votes for both seats for the 43rd.

Also, all of these election numbers are uncited. I suspect that if someone can find a source, they can also disentangle the abovementioned problem. - Jmabel | Talk 22:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

My name is John Mifflin, and I currently live in Helena MT. I used to live in Spokane WA. I have copies of the vote by county for all partisan Washington elections back to 1889 except legislature. The state started making charts of this in 1918, we're trying to make them before hand. All of the King County info came from their canvass sheets. From 1900 to 1998, King County kept seperate subtotals for Seattle. From 1962 to 1988, they kept seperate absentee totals for the city of Seattle by leg. district. From 1946 to 1960, they broke it down by precinct. That's where the info came from, the source.

All of my charts are in excel which does not seem to import into these charts. I have lots and lots of other stuff I could contribute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.146.99.143 (talk) 09:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion for new link page

We at the Daniel J. Evans School of Public Affairs noticed that this article mentions us, and we wanted to find out about how to get link about the Evans School on here that is in compliance with the policies of the wikipedia community.

We have drafted what we think is a very straight-forward and neutral article about the Evans School, but are hesitant in adding it so that we don't violate any of the policies for this community. EvansSchool 22:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello. I'm not sure what to do here. I sent in the election information. It all comes from King County and Washington State records. King County made seperate totals including absentee from 1946 to 1998, so accurate Seattle info available. When Dan Evans ran for the legislature, before one man one vote, the 43rd legislative district elected two representatives with no regard for individual seats. Starting in 1966, they were listed as Rep 43rd District Position 1, and Position 2. John Mifflin (who lived in Spokane Wash and did this kind of research for years.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.245.120 (talk) 02:48, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Ted Bundy

why is the connection with ted bundy consistently removed? the only case against its removal is it being labeled "irrelevent" which is ridiculous. Thismightbezach (talk) 12:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't see why it is "ridiculous" to think the Bundy connection is irrelevant. What does it have to do with Evans' political career? Zero. It is, at best, a matter of trivia, and certainly devoting an entire paragraph seems excessive. And, yes, I do feel like giving this minor connection weight at least looks like guilt-by-association against Evans. (But no, I don't think you are a left-winger out to smear him. One, he's been out of politics for 20 years so what would be the point and, two, my impression is that at least among us Washingtonians who remember him he is widely admired regardless of political affiliation.) So, are there any other editors who do or don't think the matter merits mention? CAVincent (talk) 03:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I supplied one citation from the Bundy article (there are two more there), but obviously I don't understand hw to get it formatted properly. Sorry. Getting ready to do an article in Esperanto on Evans, and was intrigued by this detail I'd not heard of before, tried to help, and instead created an unsightly red text. --Haruo (talk) 00:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

It is true Bundy volunteered on one of his campaigns. Dan Evans never met him (if he did he doesn't remember). Bundy had little impact on the campaign. To create a close link or anything beyond he was one of thousands of volunteers is false and nothing more than sensationalism. Dan Evans, Jr. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.81.143.222 (talk) 20:24, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for Senate Position

After the death of Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson, some of the younger generation of the state were asked what should be done to replace the Good Senator Jackson. It was stated that often times the wife of the legislator often replaced the individual to finish the term of office. I suggested a nomination of the Good Governor Evans as a replacement if Jackson's wife would not be chosen, because Governor Evans was such a popular governor. I did not realize that he no longer desired to be such a high public figure.Gnostics (talk) 02:22, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

The governor of Washington at the time, John Spellman, was responsible for selecting Scoop's replacement. Spellman was a Republican and Scoop was a Democrat and the desire was to nominate a R who could win a staewide election to take the seat. Scoop's wife Helen was never considered. 96.81.143.222 (talk) 20:21, 3 May 2019 (UTC) Dan Evans, Jr.

Requested move 6 October 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time per the discussion below. (page mover nac) Flooded with them hundreds 06:46, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

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Daniel J. Evans → Dan Evans (politician) – "Dan" is the more WP:COMMONNAME for the former governor and US Senator from Washington state.

A search of the Vanderbilt Television News Archive shows 57 results for "Dan Evans" compared to 18 for "Daniel Evans" among national TV newscasts in the US. For instance, the various incarnations of ABC World News Tonight used "Dan Evans" during his gubernatorial career during coverage of the 1968 Republican National Convention [1] [2] [3] and during a 1973 report about the Office of Economic Opportunity. When Evans ran for the late Henry "Scoop" Jackson's Senate seat, ABC continued to use "Dan" like in these reports in 1983 and continuing during Evans' one term as Senator in 1985, 1986, 1987, and 1988.

In the 1980s, the Associated Press used "Dan Evans" [4] [5] [6] [7]. A United Press International story in 1983 was headlined: "Dan Evans wins Washington state Senate race", and UPI stories in 1986 [8] and 1987 [9] used "Dan Evans, R-Wash."

However, the politician isn't the primary topic, due to a prominent British tennis player of the same name. Arbor to SJ (talk) 19:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. bd2412 T 02:47, 20 October 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. Flooded with them hundreds 09:55, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:NATURAL. Daniel J. Evans is his common name, whether or not the most common, so if Dan Evans is not available, his real name should be preferred over one that requires an artificial parenthetical qualifier. Station1 (talk) 07:07, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
• Weak support, we don't use natural disambiguators that aren't used regularly in reliable sources (save for one controversial exception). Willing to consider switching to oppose if opposers cite sources for their position. Iffy★Chat -- 12:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

  From the first 2 pages of a Google search: U.S. Senate, Washington State Archives, the Daniel J. Evans Wilderness, Washington's National Park Fund, C-Span, Washington Superintendent of Public Instruction, Harvard University, Bloomberg.com, and Evergreen State College. - Station1 (talk) 19:41, 7 October 2018‎ (UTC)

Those sources (places named after him, the Bloomberg executive directory, or Harvard University's fellowship program) are the types to include members' middle initials and use proper names. Similarly, every place in the list of places named after Robert Byrd uses his middle initial. In contrast, the sources I cited above (TV news and newspaper articles) that are more accessible to the general public use "Dan Evans". An exception: C-SPAN used "Daniel" on screen when filming his US Senate speeches. But C-SPAN is not as widely watched as the ABC/CBS/NBC newscasts that used "Dan Evans".

In his home state, The Seattle Times uses "Dan Evans" far more often than "Daniel". "Dan Evans" site:seattletimes.com returns 700+ results, vs. 40+ for "Daniel Evans" - like this 2017 story "Gov. Dan Evans: How a real leader squashed hate and extremists", this 2014 column "Dan Evans, vestige of a GOP that believed in the American Dream ", and this one from 2006 "Dan Evans is running again ... this time to help UW program". Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:36, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

That misses the point. "Dan Evans" (unlike "Robert Byrd") is not available as a title. Policy in that case is to prefer natural disambiguation unless the name is obscure or made-up, which the current title very definitely is not. Station1 (talk) 04:11, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

• Weak oppose. This doesn't appear to be a rare or uncommon name for him, so I prefer it to having the disambiguator. Nohomersryan (talk) 05:05, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
• Support. The topic is ambiguous with other Dan Evanses. This is not about "Daniel J. Evans" being well known as his name, but about the important sources, 1, 2 in which he is named *only* as "Dan Evans". The "iel J." is not good enough, better disambiguation is needed. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:27, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
• Support when the WP:NATURAL option is substantially less common than the WP:COMMONNAME, use the common name. feminist (talk) 13:16, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

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