Talk:Ennis Del Mar

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Important Note: the fair use rationale requested above never appreared and the contested imeage was deleted. The current image differs from the prior (now deleted) image. The current image is derived from copyright holder's promotional materials and the image description is believed to be in compliance with current policy. Conrad T. Pino 02:46, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Name similarity?[edit]

Ennis Del Mar's name is not dissimilar to Del Ennis, a former Major League Baseball player. The latter Ennis' first name is Delmer. 68.193.202.183 16:59, July 19, 2007.

Categorize sexual orientation criteria[edit]

IMO sexual orientation should reflect either self identification or dominant behavior. Both Ennis and Jack denied gay self identification in the film. The film portrays more women in Ennis' life and more men in Jack's life but neither makes an obvious dominant sexual behaviour choice as Ennis drifts towards asexual and Jack never leaves his wife. I'm removing Category:Fictional gay men pending futher discussion. Conrad T. Pino 05:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

If you remove Fictional gay men from their category sections, then you should remove Fictional bisexuals, seeing as neither claim to be bisexual, and just as many film critics have stated that they are gay. Flyer22 06:06, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I tend towards agreeing with your assertion. A person's story told by themselves must be honored as doing less is profoundly disrespectful. A person's story told by another is valid only if based on observable and preferably verifiable behavior. Applying a label to another based on interpreting behavior is inherently subjective and why I find critics' assertions less than persuasive. I suggest that heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual (gay) are commonly used as mutually exclusive terms. Within the mutually exclusive premise "bisexual" fits best but I don't claim an excellent fit, just better than the other alternatives. I propose staying within the bounds of what we can verify with reliable sources. I also believe the story would be diminished had sexual orientation been made explicit which is why I can support removing bisexual as well. Conrad T. Pino 07:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
So you're okay with me removing them from the Fictional bisexuals category, right? And letting the LGBT categorization stand as being what includes them as part of the gay (or bisexual) community? Flyer22 07:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you have my support to remove bisexual, I support the LGBT categorization and I'll help in the pursuit of additional proposals as well. Conrad T. Pino 08:11, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay, Conrad. Thanks. It's been really pleasant talking with you. I'll weigh in further as well, as to any other editors commenting on this matter in the future. Flyer22 08:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Late[edit]

It is not Wikipedia policy to put "the late" in front of the names of people who are no longer living. There are literally billions of such people, after all, and writing about "the late Richard Nixon" and "the late Jimmy Durante" and "the late Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother" and "the late William Shakepeare" gets a bit ridiculous. In the case of this article in particular, it really isn't relevant to the character whether an actor who portrayed him is still alive or not. - JasonAQuest (talk) 06:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I support you removing "the late" from this article. Flyer22 (talk) 19:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Ennis is not Irish[edit]

The Irish word for "island" is "inis", pronounced rather like "inish" in English. I don't know what "Ennis" means, but it's not even close to the Irish "inis".

85.224.210.112 (talk) 21:38, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to remove it if it is wrong. WP:Be Bold. Flyer22 (talk) 16:36, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

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