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Former featured articleJenna Jameson is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 18, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
December 22, 2006Good article nomineeListed
February 17, 2007Featured article candidatePromoted
May 3, 2014Featured article reviewDemoted
Current status: Former featured article

Dead link[edit]

This article has plenty of deadlinks at present. http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webchecklinks.py?page=Jenna_Jameson Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:37, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I've archived as many as were available on the Wayback Machine. The rest will need to be evaluated for necessity and/or alternate citations sought.--Chimino (talk) 18:09, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Bisexual[edit]

The "totally hetero" quote is sarcastic and obviously intended to be funny. She is bisexual.--74.176.43.252 (talk) 22:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

No it isn't. [1] Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 23:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Apparently, the label "bisexual" is as bad as "terrorist." Is this another bisexual Women who have sex with women who doesn't like the bisexual or lesbian label.--74.176.43.252 (talk) 23:31, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
That's not your decision to make. Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 01:00, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Kafziel. Biographies of living people may not use LGBT or religious categories unless the person publicly self-identifies with the label(s) in question and it is relevant to their public lives. She no longer identifies as a bisexual. Unless you can prove that she still does and was actually being sarcastic, then the categories should not be in there. Asarelah (talk) 23:27, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Does this article really qualify for a featured article status?[edit]

I directly get to the point. I don't think this article qualifies to be a featured article.

1) Is the subject of this article really that important? Wikipedia is read by millions of people and thousands of children. The home page content should be thoughtful and intuitive. Is an article on a porn star really worth reading by school going children?

2)Style is not enough. An article should not be promoted to the status of a featured article just because its well written. The subject and the content, as well as its usefulness should also be tested.

3)And actually, it's not even well written. Some repetitive information, random list and unneeded photographs make this a very untidy article.

This is my opinion and I am very sure that none of this points is biased against porn stars and the porn industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meetsangvikar (talkcontribs) 18:22, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

You say you're not biased against porn stars but your first point has everything to do with her being a porn star and whether school children should be reading about a porn star. Do school children need to know such intricate detail about various battles that happened in wars which aren't even covered in their history texts? Probably not. But we have articles on them anyway. Wikipedia is written for everyone. Not just school children. As for your other points, if you feel it can be better written, then BE BOLD and fix it. You obviously had enough interest in the subject to read it. So why not fix it? Dismas|(talk) 18:30, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

State categories[edit]

  • [2]
    • "Why remove the other state categories?" She lived in those states, but she wasn't born there. Was she born in three states? Erpert Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it? 01:46, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
      • Are the state categories specifically limited to people born there? Asarelah (talk) 03:17, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
        • Is there a guideline that says they aren't? You're the first person I have ever come across that has had a problem with this. Erpert Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it? 05:29, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Hi, guys, I'm here from the 3O board. There is, in fact, a guideline that says that such categories are not limited to place of birth: WP:Categorization of people#By place. That said, from a purely editorial perspective, I do think it's pretty weird to have "from (state)" categories from more than one different state. Has she ever said "I'm from (state)" or "My childhood in (state)" or something to that effect, that would indicate that she attaches particular meaning to one of the options? If she hasn't, maybe we should consider either choosing one (if I had to choose, probably Nevada, given her parents and early history as a Vegas showgirl, etc., but I'm 100% open to other opinions) or maybe getting rid of all the state categories. Writ Keeper 16:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps the Nevada one then? Asarelah (talk) 22:30, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Nevada. Erpert Who is this guy? | Wanna talk about it? 08:59, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I guess that's it then; if y'all need anything else, let me know on my talk page. Thanks! Writ Keeper 14:09, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit needed (header) - Article subject is a current pornographic actress[edit]

  • The article's subject is not a former pornographic actress. The term "former" should be removed from the header.
  • Jenna claimed to have retired from porn in 2008.[1]
  • She began working again shortly after and has starred in 9 adult films since then.[2]
  • Technically, she is a current pornographic actress until she announces her retirement from porn once again.
  • There are no current reliable sources to show that she has announced retirement since January, 2011.
  • The last adult film Jenna Jameson has starred in: Title: Jenna Is Timeless - Genre: Adult - Date of release 1/11/11.[3]
  • This should be a good enough reason to make the change. --70.120.83.126 (talk) 07:22, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Penthouse modeling[edit]

Hold on a second—she did nude modeling with the intention of getting into Penthouse as a 17 year-old??? I just think that this is worth explicitly noting in the article, rather than just implying it, as that is child pornography, and it seems significant. ❤ Yutsi Talk/ Contributions ( 偉特 ) 06:09, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

new things[edit]

I'd write these up better, and add them - but this is a locked article?

The Hollywood Hills mansion, bought in 2006 for $2.7 million foreclosed on, and sold off for $1.85 million. [3]

And, used 4chan to track down assistant who cleared her images from social media sites.

Working as a cam-girl to feed her kids.


~ender 2014-01-05 19:39:PM MST

TFA request for April 9[edit]

I have made a TFA request for the article to appear on the Main Page for April 9. Any comments appreciated. Minima© (talk) 18:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Article quality issues[edit]

It has been suggested that this article be featured on the Main Page, however some issues regarding the quality of the article has been raised. They are:

  • relies on sources such as AskMen.com, Tattoo.com, Blogspot.com, tattoo.com, DrewTewksbury.com, Daily Mail
  • dead links
  • Poorly organized
  • Poorly written lede
  • lots of short stubby paragraphs
  • unformatted refs
  • a lot of overlinking

I have done a little bit of work. I've re-organized it a bit. I removed some of the non-notable information from the lede. I replaced the Daily Mail references with a LA Times reference. Lots more work needs to be done.

The article will likely be sent to WP:FAR and will likely not pass. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 21:44, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Removed

  • tattoo.com

Replaced:

  • Daily Mail with LA Times
  • DrewTewksbury.com with Guaridan link [4]

However, the quality of the Guardian blog is only marginally better. I have some difficulty finding a reliable source for this movie. Help? --Harizotoh9 (talk) 22:18, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Askmen is too heavily sourced to be simply replaced. Is it a WP:RS? The blogspot reference is also to her own personal blog. Can that stay? Does it adhere to WP:Aboutself ?--Harizotoh9 (talk) 22:20, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Hariz, thank you for taking the time to notice this and bring up these issues. Yep, the article needs attention and updating. The sources are likely just a matter of convenience as to what came up on Google when it was edited. Better sources, especially about Jameson, are fairly easy to find. As I have time, I'll start working my way through the article. By the way, good idea about the notice in the Pornography project page. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 19:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Religion[edit]

Can it be added that Jenna is a catholic? http://www.jewishjournal.com/thegodblog/item/jenna_jameson_porn_queen_and_devout_catholic_20080826 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InpziprQCXw

Yeah, I don't see a problem with it. The source seems to be reliable. --Λeternus (talk) 07:43, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
I don't consider that to be a reliable source. Furthermore, as per the rules, religious and LGBT categories are only to be included in biographies of living people when the person publicly SELF-identifies with the label in question and it is relevant to their public life. She is not self-identifying in the source and it is not relevant to her public life. Asarelah (talk) 12:21, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Religion[edit]

Isn't she now converting to Judaism? According to a couple of web articles, she is now dating an Israeli diamond merchant in Los Angeles, Lior Bitton. [1]2602:306:CDDD:1CD0:CDBD:B85F:E059:98AD (talk) 17:00, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

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4.1 Relationships and health[edit]

The penultimate sentence in section 4.1 reads: “On August 5, 2016 Jameson announced that she and Britton were expecting their first child together." Britton appears as though it should be Bitton. Since this is the first mention of the name, using the full name (Lior Bitton) might be appropriate. Avurax (talk) 21:21, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations[edit]

Redirect I redirected List of awards and nominations received by Jenna Jameson for now, but this could easily be expanded into a Featured list, if someone is interested. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:27, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

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External links in a "Notes" section[edit]

This article has been elevated to B-class, and it has been apparently missed that external links have been placed in a "Notes" section, which is not for such external links. I have listed this at Wikipedia talk:External links and the Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard. Otr500 (talk) 13:28, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

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Break Up with Brad[edit]

I think we should remove "They legally separated and divorced in March 2001, after Brad discovered her sexual affair with Jorge Araya Montoya (whom she met on a visit to Costa Rica)."[1]

The citation used to support this claim doesn't have any back up for it.

Actually on this link which is a continuation of the first on, it states "March 2001: Jameson and first husband Hopkins finally legally separate and divorce." [2]

Sebastian Elizondo M (talk) 23:08, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Order of Occupations[edit]

Isn't it pretty disingenuous to list "American entrepreneur" first in this article? She is first and foremost a pornographic film actress.

Linda Lovelace has "pornographic actress" listed first in her bio and she's an activist against porn now, but her claim to fame is of course the adult film Deep Throat.

It just seems, as I said before, disingenuous to list "entrepreneur" first in her bio.

Jenna Jameson is to "Entrepreneur" as Bill Cosby is to "Comedian". The title is not really the reason people are looking them up. Murra300 (talk) 05:04, 31 May 2018 (UTC)