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A fact from Jimmy Carter 1976 presidential campaign appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 July 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that initially given little chance of winning during his 1976 presidential campaign, Jimmy Carter (pictured) overcame 16 Democrats to be his party's nominee?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:57, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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A campaign button from Carter's 1976 presidential campaign.

... that during his 1976 presidential campaign, when Jimmy Carter (pictured) was mocked for his unfamiliarity to voters as "Jimmy, who", he replied "My name is Jimmy Carter, and I'm running for president"? Source: Learn Canvas, The New Yorker, On this day
- ALT1:... that during his 1976 presidential campaign, Jimmy Carter (pictured) was mocked for his unfamiliarity to voters as "Jimmy, who"? Source: Learn Canvas, The New Yorker, On this day
- ALT2:... that initially given little chance of winning, Jimmy Carter (pictured) defeated 16 other Democrats to be the nominee for president in 1976? Source: Politico; Miller Center
- ALT3:... that initially given little chance of winning, Jimmy Carter (pictured) overcame 16 Democrats to be his party's nominee and defeated the Republican incumbent for president in 1976? Source: Politico; Miller Center

Reviewed: Air France Flight 343

Created by Kavyansh.Singh (talk). Self-nominated at 17:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

@Kavyansh.Singh: The main hook is incorrect. I remember that campaign well. They called him "Jimmy who?" because most people had never heard of him outside of the US State of Georgia. Even Carter joked about himself as "Jimmy who?" He was popular enough to win the nomination for the Democratic candidate, and popular enough to win the election. His popularity as President took some hits because of national issues he had to deal with. But it was never an issue in the 1976 Presidential campaign. — Maile (talk) 18:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Maile66: Hi, thanks for your comments. By saying unpopularity, I ment the same that he was not popular or less known throughout the nation except Georgia. If you think the hook needs rephrasing, kindly suggest as it is almost 200 characters. Also, alt 1 can be considered. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:23, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kavyansh.Singh: I'll leave the rephrasing to somebody else. But now I understand your reasoning. Thanks for replying. — Maile (talk) 18:31, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear, I was not reviewing this, just making a comment on the wording. I leave the review to a different reviewer, who will review the hook wording and everything else. Good luck. — Maile (talk) 10:53, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: "lack of name recognition" or "unfamiliarity to voters" might be the phrase you are looking for that first hook, not "unpopularity". "Unpopularity" would be misunderstood to mean that he had low-approval. SecretName101 (talk) 15:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @SecretName101: Thanks for your comments, I have made the changes, but that makes the hook slightly over 200 characters. What else can be changed to make it under the limit of characters. Also, I have made some changes in Alt 1, which makes it better. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:59, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'd rephrase ALT2 as "mocked for his unfamiliarity". The missing "his" makes it grammatically incorrect. SecretName101 (talk) 17:25, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@SecretName101:

Done But the issue is that the image doesn't relate with the hook of Alt 1. I'd still prefer cutting short main hook by removing "Jimmy who?" part. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:34, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsing resolved concerns about button image's public domain status. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 04:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the button image free? It's a 1976 image, so it didn't need copyright to be registered, and it's before Carter was president, so not a US Federal govt image ... ? --GRuban (talk) 16:58, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GRuban Just to be clear, I did not upload the original image, just cropped a image already available on commons (File:Jimmy Carter Library and Museum 16.JPG). It was uploaded almost 11 years ago by Piotrus which is licensed as user's own work (under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license) It states "Jimmy Carter Library and Museum" in description, so I guess that the image has been photographed by the user from Carter Library. The Carter Library states "Much of the audiovisual materials, including all White House-produced photographs, motion picture films, and audiotapes, are in the public domain. Other material, such as donated items and White House Communications Agency news videotapes, are subject to copyright law." (Source) It just needs to be clarified by an commons admin that photographs clicked by users from Presidential Libraries are in Public domain or not? Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Campaign_buttons_from_the_United_States_presidential_election,_1976 That's why those Commons admins make the big bucks... --GRuban (talk) 18:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done: The image is fine, as User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) pointed out, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-US-no_notice covers it, conveniently extends to 1977! --GRuban (talk) 00:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GRuban, Glad this is resolved, and glad my pic is useful here :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:57, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GRuban; Piotrus: Thanks for resolving the raised concerns. As the deletion request is withdrawn, I am putting this discussion (regarding image's status) in a collapsible table. Thanks! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 04:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Full review still needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:53, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BlueMoonset Yes, full review still needed, I have added another hook. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 04:22, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: There are a lot of cited quotes, so Earwig sees more close paraphrasing than is actually present. Certainly meets standards for newness and length. Article is sufficiently cited and neutral, as is the hook. QPQ looks fine. Nice work on a tricky subject. Takes me back a few years. Thanks! BusterD (talk) 09:14, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator and I agree on ALT3. I trust DYK regulars will find a superior way to wikify this if needed. BusterD (talk) 09:58, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Came to promote, but the image is weird...it looks like it's superimposed over a fuzzy rendering of his shoulders? Can we fix this so it's just a round image of the button? —valereee (talk) 18:14, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have done some cropping but had to change the file format using my software. Does this improve? BusterD (talk) 18:42, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think it's a huge improvement. —valereee (talk) 19:00, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - Thanks BusterD for helping!Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:11, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 07:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note that the nomination was closed by an admin, so image can be used. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 06:00, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]