Talk:Joe Shuster

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Shuster was also (now) famous for drawing various sadomasochistic graphic novels[edit]

Nights of Horror was one of the infamous books he drew with characters resembling lex luthur, lois lane, and clark kent. In a new book being released in the coming weeks "Secret Identity" by craig yoe (With intro from stan lee) it is all documented.

see metro us article for samples. Lucky dog (talk) 04:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

  • I've tidied it up a little to conform to Wikipedia guidance. Hiding T 10:50, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Shuster's Nationality[edit]

Shuster was never even a Canadian citizen. Before 1947, there was no legal existence of Canadian citizenship, and even now were Shuster still alive, he would not qualify for automatic citizenship having left Canada long before 1947. Before that Shuster would have been a crown subject, and that would end as soon as he resided elsewhere.

Shuster was never a Canadian citizen, and under no fair interpretation of the facts, could he reasonably called solely Canadian, and any edit that states otherwise is either the work of a good faith, misinformed editor or a combination of wishful thinking or vandalism. He can reasonably be described as 'Canadian American', but he does not not simply 'Canadian'.

Not to sound unreasonable, but given that this has become a mini-edit war. I think any edits that falsely refer to Shuster as solely 'Canadian', be considered vandalism, unless it's a first time, or good faith edit by a misinformed editor.

( (talk) 04:19, 16 July 2009 (UTC))

  • Changed article back to Canadian-born and revised his nationality to United States. Shuster was an American citizen and held that one passport for the vast majority of his life. His Canadian heritage is deserving of significant emphasis and is an important part of his legacy, and is best left to be recognized in the body of the article. The status of his nationality, however, should be objective and clear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
"held that one passport"? What does this mean? Do you have a citation that Shuster had a passport of any kind? Until 9/11, Canadians and Americans didn't need a passport to visit each others' countries. My Dad hasn't had a passport in his life, and visited the US every year until after 9/11. CüRlyTüRkeyTalkContribs 00:33, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

[subhead change: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gothamgazette (talkcontribs) ](yes, that was me:--Gothamgazette 11:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)) This article seems to put purposeful emphasis on Joe Shuster's Canadian heritage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misopogon (talkcontribs)

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  • Not to mention that it actually doesn't put undue emphasis. It's mentioned a grand total of twice - pm_shef 16:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
That's obviously two times too many. Canadians are to be feared. --Chris Griswold 03:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Not that being Canadian made Shuster more capable of creating Superman, but few people actually know that the character's primary creator was not American. It doesn't need to be emphasized to any great extent but it is indeed a little known fact that Superman is a Canuck. --Bentonia School 17:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

changing it back to "Canadian-born" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gothamgazette (talkcontribs)

The fact that he was born in Canada, would, by most social definitions, class you as a Canadian. Whether legal or not. There are millions of Canadians who were born in Canada and left or died before 1947 and were considered Canadian. They would be immensely angered to find out that we don't consider them Canadians. Wikipedia does not solely define things based on their legal definitions. The conventional definition of a Canadian is anyone born in Canada, from confederation in 1867. Seeing as much of the Canadian Constitution is convention it would be an error to consider that conventional definitions aren't able to be used. If a passport is the only way you want to define it then that still means he would be a Canadian-American. For example, if someone is born in Ireland and moves to New York as a child. They then get American Citizenship and only hold an American Passport, they are still considered Irish-American. Millions of American Citizen immigrants would agree. Since he did move to the United States and lived there for most of the remainder of his life and did become an American Citizen I believe the proper definition would be Canadian-American.Brendan OhUiginn (talk) 23:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Canadians love to accuse Americans of being too nationalistic, yet they get offended when you argue that Mr Shuster may not have considered himself a Canadian but rather American. He spent 10 years in Canada and then moved to Cleveland an died in LA so how exactly is he a Canadian? Tra2525 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:16, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Is there no available reference to cite his citizenship? Everyone here loves their own opinions, but opinions is not what Wikipedia is about. CüRlyTüRkeyTalkContribs 00:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


In this article is said that liftime pension for Siegel and Shuster was $25.000, while in Jerry Siegel article it's $35.000...?

And in the article on the Encyclopedia of Canada site, it says $20 000. [1].--Ibis3 21:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

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BDSM artwork[edit]

Has anyone access to Craig Yoe Secret Identity: The Fetish Art of "Superman's" Co-creator Joe Shuster: The Fetish Art of "Superman's" Co-creator Joe Shuster?--Nemissimo (talk) 09:49, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Disambiguation page[edit]

There is another Joe Shuster- he has witten a book entitled Fossil Fools. His website is Ahlfi006 (talk) 03:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

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