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Good Article Candidate?
[edit]As is becoming my custom (see Bart King), now that I've written this American cricketer article, I'm hoping to nominate it as a good article. After that, I'd like to get a peer review done and then see if we can't make this an FA. Is a GA rating possible?--Eva bd 14:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- It may be better to leave it there for a week or two for us to make any minor changes. Tintin 14:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Indeed. There is no hurry. We can all get our fine-toothed combs out to give it a good cleanup first.--Eva bd 15:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Philadelphia wikiproject rating
[edit]The article is well written, has good references and is mostly complete, the only information that seemed to be missing was personal life such as marriage and children. I rated it an A-class. Medvedenko 20:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for rating the article. I'm not sure if it can be A-Class yet. It has not yet passed a GA Nomination, so it is probably technically a B-Class.--Eva bd 04:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- Whether A-class or GA-class is supposed to be the higher standard is something of a muddle. What is clear, though, is that Top-importance is supposed to be somewhat more restrictive; demoting to High-importance for WP:PHL. Excellent work, though! —CComMack (t–c) 06:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. It might be a good idea to rework the rating criteria for Top Importance articles, then. The WP:PHL assessment page says that a Top Importance article is "...a 'core' or 'key' topic for Philadelphia, or is generally notable to people other than students of Philadelphia." For someone like me, who has only been to Philly once and doesn't care all that much for things Philadelphian (aside from cricket), that puts it in Top Importance. Just a though.--Eva bd 14:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
1185
[edit]1185 seems to be a magic number:
- In his final season in 1896, he scored a total of 1,185 runs, averaging 79 per innings and took 40 wickets, for an average of 23.2.[2] He also captained Haverford on their first overseas tour, scoring 105 against the MCC on his first appearance at Lord's.[1] On this tour, he created a great impression by scoring 1,185 runs with an average of over 84 and prepared himself for the Philadelphian's tour of England the following year.[4]
It's either a remarkable coincidence, or both those 1185s are referring to the same thing. Given that both took place in 1896, I suspect the latter: ie that Haverford's 1896 season consisted of that tour of England. Admittedly the averages don't agree, but maybe somebody miscalculated? JH (talk page) 21:02, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- Rereading things, I think that the 1185 and the 79 average were the totals for the season. The 84 average was just for the matches on the tour. I've updated the article.--Eva bd 14:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Profession
[edit]From Melville p.136 : "He finished that tour (1903) as his team's top scorer as well as the third best bowler, an exceptional accomplishment for the university professor, who according to some critics ..."
So it looks like he held a higher position than being a school teacher. But if he completed his doctorate in 1902, is it possible to become a professor within one year ? Tintin 01:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- It certainly is in the US. I'm not sure about the UK or other countries, but some universities will allow people with only an MA to be appointed professors. It depends really, but I know of at least a few poeople who were given professorships right out of graduate school. Now...does Melville say where he served as a university professor or for how long?--Eva bd 18:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
GA passed
[edit]I passed the GA, it meets all seven of the GA criteria. One issue: when checking the sources the following sentence was copied verbatim from the source. I didn't find any other so the article is fine (I even registered and checked the ones one the Wisden Almanack). Just re-word the sentence.
Article:" he scored a total of 1,185 runs, averaging 79 per innings and took 40 wickets, for an average of 23.2"Source:" he scored a total of 1185 runs, averaging 79 per innings and took 40 wickets, for a average of 23.2"Quadzilla99 11:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)- I'll check back and make sure it's reworded. Quadzilla99 12:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, Quadzilla. I reworded it.--Eva bd 14:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Cool. Nice work by the way. Quadzilla99 14:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Personal life
[edit]One minor note that should be addressed is a sentence or two about his personal life. Such as whether he was married, whether he had any children, etc. Quadzilla99 08:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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KKK?
[edit]I arrived at this page through a link on the page on the Kappa Alpha fraternity, which states:
“Ku Klux Klan founder John Lester claimed that the Klan's initiation ritual was based on a popular collegiate fraternal order. [21]”
Is this the same person? Or should a disambiguity be made clear and the link disrupted? Genetikbliss (talk) 16:46, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's a common name, and it's not unusual for a Wikipedia article to wikilink to the wrong person. People often fail to check when wikilinking. So unless there's some documentary evidence that it's the same person, I'd suggest doing what you propose. JH (talk page) 10:08, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
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