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Untilitled[edit]

I have read that Jizo's stick is meant for awakening people. However, I do not know the authenticity of this statement, so I request that someone with the knowledge either make a change on the page or erase this comment. Thank you.

It should be made clear that Ksitigarbha is not the judge of Hell, Yama, which many uninformed Buddhists, Taoists, and those who believe in Chinese folk religion, see Ksitigarbha as.
Bias, much? --Tydaj 16:40, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Title Change[edit]

I will move the article to Ksitigarbha. The current title Jizo is the Japanese name of the bodhisattva, which is somehow misleading and neglecting its Chinese counterpart.

Is Ksitigarbha really less neglectful? Well, possibly. - Nat Krause 28 June 2005 17:57 (UTC)
Take Bodhisattva for example. We don't put it in Bosatsu or Pusa because Bodhisattva is what it is called in its place of origin. -- G.S.K.Lee 29 June 2005 10:18 (UTC)
As a counter-example, one could look at [{Zen]], which we have under the Japanese name because that is by far the most common in the West. - Nat Krause 30 June 2005 16:13 (UTC)

On a different matter entirely: where is this divine punishment upon the fetus coming from? Spiraling 19:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Too much superstition[edit]

I think it needs to be made clear that the information in the section realting to Japan should be labelled as popular beliefs rather than any grounded Buddhist thought. Also, there needs to be greater emphasis on his 'Buddhist' aspect rather than separating the page into the countries he is venerated in. Jmlee369 08:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese Buddhism changed to Oriental Buddhism[edit]

Many contents in Chinse section are shared by all oriental Mahayana Buddhism in China, Japan, Korea and Vietnam. Korean section is needed but I don't know much about Zizo in Korea. Vapour

Citing[edit]

I moved this here as it has been tagged for ages, so is better here until shown to be true and attributed. Thanks,YobMod 12:05, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article is full of un-cited claims and weaslism. For example, in the "source" section it says: "Sutra of The Great Vows of Ksitigarbha Bodhisattva, one of the most popular Mahayana Buddhist sutras." according to who? - jb312

"This sutra is said to have been spoken by the Buddha towards the end of his life..." said by who? - jb312 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jb312 (talk • contribs) 22:52, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article still requires more numerous and better citations for the mythology, as well as the addition of scholarly material and citations throughout all sections of the article. Furthermore is the question of the appropriateness of the mantras for an encyclopaedia article, and if retained then these also require proper citations. 23 May 2015. 129.67.116.223 (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Misconceptions[edit]

Many uninformed Buddhists, Taoists, and those who believe in Chinese folk religion,[who?] see Kṣitigarbha as identical with Yama, the judge of Hell, but this is a misconception.[citation needed]

Kṣitigarbha has also often been mistaken by many uninformed Buddhists[who?] to be Xuanzang, the famous Tripitaka master of the Tang Dynasty who made the hazardous journey to the west to seek the Buddhist scriptures, and the basis for the fictional character from the Chinese novel Journey to the West. This is mainly because of the robe and the Five Buddha crown which both are seen to wear.[citation needed]

Requested move 15 September 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 10:36, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Ksitigarbha → Kshitigarbha – Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indic) and general policy would have us write Kṣitigarbha as Kshitigarbha, not Ksitigarbha Ogress 04:44, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment by nom: NGRAMS are misleading because Google Books reads Kṣitigarbha as simply lacking diacriticals ("Ksitigarbha"); the scholarly norm is actually Kṣitigarbha but I keep getting yelled at when I nominate a page move to IAST for some reason. The romanisation standards here and elsewhere clearly point to Kṣitigarbha, but Kshitigarbha is the WP:COMMONNAME we're apparently willing to accept. (The current name does not actually appear with any frequency.) Ogress 04:35, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move-Per Ogress.VictoriaGraysonTalk 19:43, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I am agnostic on the issue of diacritics vs. no diacritics. But, if it's to be no diacritics, ś=sh is preferable to ś=s. – Greg Pandatshang (talk) 23:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support --AmritasyaPutraT 08:14, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - per Ogress. -Zanhe (talk) 08:21, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 25 December 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure)  samee  talk 08:44, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kshitigarbha → Kṣitigarbha – WP:NCIN stipulates that artical titles should generaly use the primary transliteration. As shown in the previous move discussion, the NGRAMS, which associates Kṣitigarbha erroneously as Ksitigarbha as mentioned above, show that WP:COMMONNAME and the primary transliteration to be Kṣitigarbha rather than Kshitigarbha, which also follows the standardized transliteration of Sanskrit as well. Example of articles with Sanskrit titles using diacritics include Vaiśravaṇa, Avalokiteśvara, Tathāgata, etc. and WP:NCIN does not forbade the use of diacritics in articles. Thus, moving it to Kṣitigarbha seems to be the right course of action. DTM9025 (talk) 03:34, 25 December 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:43, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • DTM9025 May want to notify the participants of the previous RM. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Galobtter I contacted all the participants back in January 3 after you suggested it, but it appears that they have not respond or have any objections (you could look at my contributions to confirm if you want). --DTM9025 (talk) 17:10, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • weak support. As I said about the previous move request, I don't have strong feelings about diacritics vs. none for this sort of article. If other Sanskrit-titled articles are tending toward diacritics, then it makes sense to make this one match that convention. – Greg Pandatshang (talk) 19:42, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Kṣitigarbha
A 14th-century Korean hanging scroll in gold and color on silk depicting Kṣitigarbha, a bodhisattva primarily revered in East Asian Buddhism. He is usually shown as a Buddhist monk with a halo around his shaved head, a staff to force open the gates of hell, and a wish-fulfilling jewel to light up the darkness. In East Asian Buddhism, Kṣitigarbha is known for his vow to take responsibility for the instruction of all beings in the six worlds between the death of Gautama Buddha and the rise of Maitreya, as well as his vow not to achieve Buddhahood until all hells are emptied. He is therefore often regarded as the bodhisattva of hell-beings.Painting: Unknown (image courtesy of the Metropolitan Museum of Art)
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Misleading Tanuki Information[edit]

Under “In Popular Culture” it says the Tanuki Suit lets Mario become a statue in Super Mario Bros. 3. Not only is that completely wrong, but the suit doesn’t even have anything to do with this article. It lets him fly and is based off a creature in Japanese mythology. I see no reference for this false information either.

I can’t really provide any references for my statement here, besides saying I’ve played SMB3 a lot and I’ve both seen and used the Tanuki Suit. But it’s not hard to find evidence either. Do a quick Google or YouTube search and voila.


- CradMoos, just a random passerby who made an account specifically to see if anyone was talking about this issue, and if not then to start it up, but isn’t comfortable taking out an entire section of an article CradMoos (talk) 09:54, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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