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A fact from László Báthory appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 June 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Pauline monk László Báthory spent twenty years living in a cave in Budapest so he could focus on translating the Bible?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laszlo Bathory and Bathory Cave.

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László Báthory

Dear @Evrik:, the correct spelling of his name is László Báthory, the sources of this article confirm this and even the Hungarian version of page, which you had translated to English. I think my edit was an uncontroversial, only technical move. --Norden1990 (talk) 17:26, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I specifically named the article as I did because it falls within WP:ENGLISH. Go ahead and start a name change request of you feels strongly about this. --evrik ^(talk) 00:25, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think you misunderstand WP:English. This is an encyclopedia and not an English language news portal. We should use accents that are not used in English, see for instance, Nguyễn Văn Thiệu, Honoré de Balzac, Andrés Manuel López Obrador or Kåre Willoch. --Norden1990 (talk) 07:27, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 May 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 01:23, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Laszlo Bathory → László Báthory – This is the correct spelling of his name. He was born in Hungary, and also became known for his activities there, and died in Hungary too. László is a Hungarian variant of Vladislav, while Báthory family was a prominent noble family in Hungary (it is conceivable that there is only a name relationship, but because of his studies abroad he is likely to be a member of the family). Scholar works (he is relatively unknown outside Hungary), also use the name with accents, [1], [2], [3], [4]. His name had different forms (Báthory, Bátori and Báthori), but each uses accents. ~~For the same reason, I also request to rename its derivative article Bathory Cave to Báthory Cave.~~ Norden1990 (talk) 07:39, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The cave nomination should not be included here as it is a separate article. --evrik ^(talk) 17:18, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I requested another move on the proper talkpage. --Norden1990 (talk) 18:27, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nominator. JIP | Talk 08:49, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Uncontroversial, support same with all Hungarian bios and geos. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the article is appropriately named per Wikipedia:ENGLISH. The citations above are in Hungarian. A simple google search will show that the name exists without the accents or other diacritics.--evrik ^(talk) 17:18, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

By this logic, for example, Sauli Niinistö would have to be at Sauli Niinisto because the English language does not use accents or diacritics. JIP | Talk 10:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. --evrik ^(talk) 18:13, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I figure that if Sauli Niinistö were to be requested to move to Sauli Niinisto, the discussion would end up as "not moved" pretty quickly. "Niinistö" is the accepted name regardless of the language. JIP | Talk 18:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.c-span.org/person/?sauliniinisto

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/09/10/finlands-president-niinisto-can-hold-his-own-putin-trump/

Sauli Niinisto is the default English spelling. --evrik ^(talk) 19:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you propose a move from Sauli Niinistö to Sauli Niinisto then. JIP | Talk 00:06, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hah!--evrik ^(talk) 21:25, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The chronology seems wrong.

The article says he was born in 1420, and both served in a military campaign and completed university studies before beginning his hermitage at 17 years old in 1437. Either he was an extremely precocious youth, or some of the dates are wrong. --98.22.93.131 (talk) 18:45, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]