Talk:Matt Leto

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Review: July 9, 2013. (Reviewed version).

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FFA's won

Can someone confirm how many FFA's he has won in his entire career? --Kdramatics (talk) 23:06, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

Without mentioning questions of factual accuracy, there are some serious gramatical errors. I don't really know much about the leagues and tournaments involved in this article, but I do think the grammar needs a little help.

"Ever since he dicovered winning tournament after tournament, taking his skill to new levels and being able to play halo professionally."

This particular sentence needs to be fixed (i suggest getting rid of it altogether). It's an interesting article though. I don't think it needs to be deleted, and it is certainly not beyond repair. InternetandSpace 21:39, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the recent revisions look good. InternetandSpace 20:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can we please lock the tables that show who his team was for certain seasons or even remove them. It is FILLED with inaccuracies, placed there by children who want to pretend they competed with Matt in the earlier MLG seasons. I dont feel like correcting all of it just to come back and see that someone decided to pretend they were pro 5 years and and edit the facts. -chaosTheory {Major League Gaming Staff) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.21.149 (talk) 00:41, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article should be renamed to Matt Leto

The article should be renamed to Matt Leto and the page Zyos should serve as a redirect, just as the articles on Johnathan Wendel (Fatal1ty) and Emil Christensen (HeatoN) are. --Credema 08:09, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no objection within a few days, I will do the rename myself. J0lt C0la 15:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. J0lt C0la 22:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth

What's the correct date of birth? Lead sentence has December 2, but elsewhere in article has December 1.--A bit iffy (talk) 11:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Red Phoenix (talk · contribs) 20:49, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Short and sweet, I like it. I'm starting a review now. Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...} 20:49, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
I see some prose issues, namely with consistency. I'll list them below this review template.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Amazing sourcing job here for a short article. Looking over the list as someone who's quite familiar with WP:VG/S, I can't see anything that would indicate a lack of reliability on any of these. All of the sources look good, and they're used quite well to source pretty much everything in the article.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
As I looked over the sources, reference 2 has quite a bit more detail on the events that led up to Zyos' retirement, including his loss as part of team "XiT Woundz" in 2006 and his walkout from his team and from the professional circuit. How come the article simply says that he retired in 2006 when this information is already available in a reference? Right now this article is missing that information, and I believe needs it in order to meet 3b. There's no NPOV violation to talk about that.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
I don't see any point of view issues.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
Looks to be quite stable. Survived a deletion attempt and then nominated for GA status by the same editor a month later? That's pretty amazing, but hey, it just shows devotion to our work here.
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
No images at all? I suppose getting a free image of Matt Leto would be quite tough, especially since he's not a professional player anymore. I wouldn't call not having an image a dealbreaker, but I will say I'm not sure this would ever make FA criteria without at least one. That being said, for a GA review I wouldn't call it a necessity.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
Almost there. Just needs a bit of prose touchup and additional info.

Prose issues

"Leto attributed his loss to his weakness in 2 on 2 play, and stated his desire to continue playing one on one." Also, "one-on-one" is used in the lead. To be consistent per WP:NUMERAL, pick a format and stick with it; I'd recommend "one-on-one" and using the spelled-out numerals and hyphens in every occurrence across the article.
- Fixed

"In late 2002 Leto competed at AGP1, his first video game tournament, and though his team places fifth, he ranked second out of three hundred players." Should be past tense, and clarification that Leto ranked second out of three hundred players individually, it reads a little confusing as it is now.
- Clarified

"He then spent the next year focused on breaking video game records, eventually reaching 742 and having the highest number of records ever until Tom Duncan surpassed him." Help the readers connect 742 as the number of records he held and remove the ambiguity as to what "742" refers to. I'd recommend using two sentences here as well; this sentence reads as a run-on.
- Rewritten

"That year he was part of the four man team "Dream Team"." Add a comma after "That year".
- Fixed

"As part of team FFA competing in Major League Gamings tournament, he helped defeat "Shoot to Kill" in an upset victory in Chicago, and then also Atlanta." Is it "Team FFA" or is the team simply called "FFA"? Add quotes if it's the first, or if it's the second, reword it because readers are unlikely to know who FFA is, i.e. "As part of a team known as "FFA", ".
- Fixed

"Leto was player representative as previous years champion, and called on players to have good sportsmanship." Looks like some punctuation and wording is missing. Suggestion: "Leto was the player representative, as the previous year's champion, and called on players to have good sportsmanship."
- Fixed

"In October 2005, Leto competed and won the DigitalLife Tournament Series Halo 2 tournament, defeating "PdgfProxa"." Was this in the championship round? Make it clear.
- Fixed

"Leto studies his opponent's style of play in order to find weaknesses.[1] He also practices four to five hours to day, and the week before a tournament for ten." Seeing as how this was all in the past and Leto is now retired, the past tense should be used.
- Fixed

Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...} 21:25, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, all issues should be addressed now. Thanks for catching that info on his retirement, I looked far and wide and it was right in front of me! I'd love a picture too, but i cant find any free use ones, perhaps with time. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:50, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nicely done! I don't think you needed to duplicate the reference so many times; it's perfectly acceptable to leave a couple of sentences without a reference if it's the same reference for all of those sentences together and that in-line citation is used at the end of that group of sentences. Nonetheless, I'd say we meet the GA criteria at this time. Good job. Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...} 00:15, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 31 May 2022

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. After much-extended time for discussion, there is no consensus for a move at this time. BD2412 T 19:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Leto → Zyos – Per WP:COMMONNAME; follows suit with nearly all esports player article titles. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 18:59, 30 May 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:47, 9 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:25, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 14:08, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see no evidence that he is commonly known as Zyos on reliable sources. A simple Google search for "Matt Leto" reveals 5,230 hits including his Twitter and Insta, while "zyos" seems to get only 76. — Amakuru (talk) 08:56, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I do not see the same results as you. "Zyos" returns 166,000, while "Matt Leto" returns 1,310. Moreover, "zyos" halo returns 363,000, while "matt leto" halo returns 3,300. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 17:27, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - For what it's worth, I get almost the same numbers as Amakuru, and get less than 100 for each of the two links you added. Something is amiss when adding a qualifier yields more results than the first required term alone. Dekimasuよ! 03:57, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Amakuru and Dekimasu: I get 150k results when I click Amakuru's link above for Zyos. Not sure why we're getting such a huge discrepancy. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:08, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Pbrks, For a search comparison to be useful you have to page through to the final page of results. A search for "Zyos" gives "About 151,000 results" according to Google, but if you page through to the final page of the results you'll see that the real number is about 71. A search for "Matt Leto" gives thousands of results, but many of them appear to relate to other Matt Leto's. Moreover, Google searches return many wiki-mirror sites, so you're better off using searches of more reliable sources (e.g., a GNews or GScholar search). Looking at the sources cited in the article, most seem to credit him as "Matt "Zyos" Leto". This book interchangeably calls him "Leto" and "Zyos". It is not clear to me that "Zyos" actually the name that Matt Leto is commonly know as or not. I'm basically neutral on this. FOARP (talk) 14:06, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Amakuru. cookie monster 755 04:15, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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