Talk:Rashmika Mandanna
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Google's "National Crush of India" idiocy
[edit]In this edit I removed the content stating "Rashmika has been recognized as the 'National Crush of India' for this year by Google." This is, to put it bluntly, horseshit. As far as I know, Google does not issue awards like this or make value-judgments about people or things. At best they'll tell you who the most-searched person in X region is.
The "recognition" that these idiotic gossip rags and news outlets have picked up on is more clearly explained in this article, where we learn that the "recognition" that is being alleged, is a complete misinterpretation of a Google search result as an award.
This site explains that if you search for "Nation Crush Of India 2020" (they mean National), Google will present a prioritised result with the text "Rashmika Mandanna has become the national crush of India. We love her outfit choices for sure, but for now, it is her radiant makeup look that we are after." This isn't Google offering their opinion about how stylish and pretty Mandanna is, this is text that appears to have originated here at charmboard.com, and it was written in February 2020. So these idiot websites are erroneously equating the opinion of a Charmboard user as the opinion of search engine Google, and of course nobody is asking any questions. This content doesn't belong in the article, as it is clearly incorrect and we are allowed to apply common sense. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:47, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Amazing1abhi: since you have added this content twice, you should be aware of the above. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:53, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't say they have given award to her, I said it was just recognition by Google search engine, if these are idiotic website then entire page should be closed because most of them are quoting TOI and other entertainment websites and if content is inappropriate then remove this as well
- She is popularly dubbed by the media and Kannada film industry as the 'Karnataka Crush'. Amazing1abhi (talk) 03:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Amazing1abhi: It doesn't matter whether you said it was an "award" you have since called it a "recognition", which, by definition requires "cognition". Unless you can demonstrate that this was a conscious choice by Google to recognise Mandanna with this ridiculous exaggerated label, the content should be deleted, especially since, as I demonstrated, the origin of this claim is user-generated content. As for the rest of your argument, no, we don't have to delete the entire page, just the ridiculous claims that are easily found to be ridiculous. And no, sorry, just because she has been called by a few outlets the "Karnataka Crush" doesn't mean that it is plausible that Google, as an entity, would have labeled her the National Crush of India, since they (as far as I know) do not bestow indisputable titles on their search subjects. If you disagree, prove your position. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:29, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- More indications of poor journalism:
- Jagran: "Google recently announced the list of National Crush of India, 2020 and it has declared South Indian actress Rashmika Mandanna as the National Crush of India for the year 2020.
Where is this alleged list? Who was the National Crush of 2019? - India TV: "search giant Google also declared her the National Crush of India for the year 2020."
Again, where is this declaration from Google?
- Jagran: "Google recently announced the list of National Crush of India, 2020 and it has declared South Indian actress Rashmika Mandanna as the National Crush of India for the year 2020.
- At least Republic World has an inkling that this is nonsense: "Though no formal announcement per se, reports of Rashmika Mandanna being declared as ‘National Crush of India’ has been doing the rounds. The ‘confirmation’ could be when someone types ‘National Crush of India’, it is Rashmika Mandanna’s name that pops up."
- So, this is clearly someone's misinterpretation of a Google search result as some sort of conscious choice by a search engine that operates on non-sentient algorithms, which is spreading through the gossip-mill. It's just astounding, the level of ignorance that alleged "journalists" possess. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:43, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- This is golden. Nail in the coffin for the TOI. I agree with Cyphoidbomb's assessment. Zindor (talk) 21:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- More indications of poor journalism:
- @Amazing1abhi: It doesn't matter whether you said it was an "award" you have since called it a "recognition", which, by definition requires "cognition". Unless you can demonstrate that this was a conscious choice by Google to recognise Mandanna with this ridiculous exaggerated label, the content should be deleted, especially since, as I demonstrated, the origin of this claim is user-generated content. As for the rest of your argument, no, we don't have to delete the entire page, just the ridiculous claims that are easily found to be ridiculous. And no, sorry, just because she has been called by a few outlets the "Karnataka Crush" doesn't mean that it is plausible that Google, as an entity, would have labeled her the National Crush of India, since they (as far as I know) do not bestow indisputable titles on their search subjects. If you disagree, prove your position. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:29, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Cleanup Required
[edit]This article seems to be very poorly written especially the Career section. It cointains favourable reviews of her performances. Seems like a PR driven work. Can someone help in editing it out? defcon5 (talk) 17:52, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
@Cyphoidbomb can you please help in resolving this edit war?? The article has citations leading to twitter, YouTube, personal blogs, unreliable sites like 123telegu.com, greatandhra.com Tollywood.net, chitramala , idlebrain, India glitz, chitraloka . It contains favourable reviews of performances and some unsourced number of theatrical conquests. I removed them. But they have been been reverted. As you are an admin and monitoring this article, I am reaching out to you for discussion. defcon5 (talk) 11:26, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Tigerikkada: Re: these edits, why did you silently revert DEFCON5's changes? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 13:23, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Mention of National crush
[edit]I suggest that National Crush should be mentioned in this article. Not as an achievement but in some other way which I can't exactly make into words. I suggest this because even if that was user generated, it caught attention of mainstream media very much. This definitely increased her popularity across India, so this event is notable for her career, and so it is should be included.
See https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2020-11-01&end=2020-12-31&pages=Rashmika_Mandanna . The views were shot up when news was doing rounds i.e. around 23 November 2020 -- Parnaval (talk) 07:36, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- I mentioned national crush in introduction part -- Msd fan (talk) 10:40, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Ab207 I wrote this section 2 months ago, No one gave reply so I/ thought it was best to add it. This was mentioned by me, not as recognition but just that people believed it that Google recognised. Please add it back as this incident is really notable as it had significant mainstream media attention. -- Parnaval (talk) 13:02, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Parnaval. Appreciated that you left a note here but the concerns expressed by Cyphoidbomb and Zindor are still valid. The whole "National crush" thing is nothing but WP:SOAP, devoid of any encyclopedic value. Ab207 (talk) 13:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Ab207: I agree that citing original website that mentioned this would have been promotional. But... What has happened here is that many big media houses published this news. So, It increased her popularity significantly. Hence, we can say this incident is big (and notable) enough to be included here. Earlier editors tried to add it like google recognised, which was false. But I am adding info which is true and neutral. Now, I am going for third opinion -- Parnaval (talk) 06:06, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- Parnaval, I believe this falls under WP:NOTGOSSIP, regardless of how much attention it has got. You may ask for a third opinion but I recommend pinging the past participants to see their response. Ab207 (talk) 06:17, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- I have listed at third opinion but still as you say I am pinging DEFCON5, Tigerikkada and Msclrfl22, Not pinging Cyphoidbomb as they are inactive. -- Parnaval (talk) 10:55, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- Parnaval, I believe this falls under WP:NOTGOSSIP, regardless of how much attention it has got. You may ask for a third opinion but I recommend pinging the past participants to see their response. Ab207 (talk) 06:17, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Ab207: I agree that citing original website that mentioned this would have been promotional. But... What has happened here is that many big media houses published this news. So, It increased her popularity significantly. Hence, we can say this incident is big (and notable) enough to be included here. Earlier editors tried to add it like google recognised, which was false. But I am adding info which is true and neutral. Now, I am going for third opinion -- Parnaval (talk) 06:06, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with Ab207 regarding this being nothing but WP:SOAP. This is social media marketing gimmick with no encyclopaedic value. Clearly falls under WP:NOTGOSSIP.defcon5 (talk) 16:53, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Rashmika OR Mandanna
[edit]@NinadMysuru and Sathish Kathiravan: Decide here before reverting each other. Both Rashmika and Mandanna is currently used in article appox. 50 times. Out of this, 33 times it is used together i.e. Rashmika Mandanna. So decide one thing so we can change all instances. -- Parnaval (talk) 09:27, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sir, I did it as per Indian name. If the name was Rashmika Rao/Sharma/Ayyar, then the subject can be referred to as Rao/Sharma/Ayyar or whatever. But here the last name is Mandanna which is patronymic (her father's name). So it's clearly says that the person should be referred to by their own name than the patronymic. NinadMysuru (talk) 09:33, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- If Mandanna is patronymic, all references should be with the given name 'Rashmika' per MOS:PATRONYMIC. -- Ab207 (talk) 09:57, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sir, I did it as per Indian name. If the name was Rashmika Rao/Sharma/Ayyar, then the subject can be referred to as Rao/Sharma/Ayyar or whatever. But here the last name is Mandanna which is patronymic (her father's name). So it's clearly says that the person should be referred to by their own name than the patronymic. NinadMysuru (talk) 09:33, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- That's correct. Mandanna has to be replaced with Rashmika within the article. NinadMysuru (talk) 11:42, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
I replaced Rashmika in place of Mandanna Msd fan (talk) 10:38, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2021
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She has 21million Instagram followers She got awardBest Actress In A Leading Role - Critics (Telugu) - Dear Comrade ❤ Best Actress In A Leading Role - Critics (Kannada) - Yajamana 2402:3A80:12AC:6C9C:84D2:369B:C3E:72DF (talk) 14:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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The language Telugu should be removed from the film Pogaru because the CBFC certificate (https://www.facebook.com/110394494060512/photos/pcb.233656838400943/233656808400946/?type=3&theater) shows that the film is dubbed. DareshMohan (talk) 01:18, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Photos on Facebook are not reliable sources. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:22, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- How about these sources. They both say "dubbed and released in Telugu" . And they are more recent than the current source in the table (2020 vs 2019). (https://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/kannada/2021/jan/19/dhruva-sarjaspogaru-to-storm-into-theatres-on-feb-19-2251830.html , https://www.thehansindia.com/cinema/sandalwood/dhruva-sarja-starrer-pogaru-movie-set-to-hit-screens-on-february-19-671359). This one says "telugu dubbed version" (https://www.deccanherald.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/misogynistic-song-is-pogaru-selling-point-936904.html). — Preceding unsigned comment added by DareshMohan (talk • contribs) 06:40, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Done Thanks — DaxServer (talk) 07:35, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- @DareshMohan ok good Arpit Savita (talk) 04:46, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Restoration of repetitive content, photos
[edit]@Jayanthkumar123, you restored without any explanation content that I had removed with proper reasons. Can you explain why this page needs one photo each from the last three years or needs to quote every line that mentions her in movie reviews?
I've reverted you because I hardly see any encyclopedic value in sentences like "is easy that pin-up girl in college" or "is cute". If you want to restore specific parts, do go ahead but I've gone through every sentence and will challenge it. Wholesale restoration of such poor content isn't productive. Hemanthah (talk) 11:11, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Hemanthah and Taggede le. Please refrain from edit warring and try to reach a consensus about the article's content. -- Ab207 (talk) 12:17, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Ab207, I'd request more care before throwing 'edit war' around. I opened the discussion here and asked repeatedly for engagement. The quality of content being restored and the irrelevant edit summaries show that while not being outright vandalism, the reverts do not appear to be fully aware of relevant policies. And I reverted only twice. That's hardly deserving of your reproach. Hemanthah (talk) 12:52, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Hemanthah: I apologize if it came out to be harsh. My intention was to request both of you to from a consensus instead of reverting each other. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:05, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I should stop here, but just to explain my own reaction: tag at the top since August shows there's already consensus that cleanup's needed. DEFCON5 noted it here last year and even did some cleanup but was similarly reverted by an account that didn't even try engaging. All that content has stood since then. Removing challenged content, especially the kind seen here, shouldn't be this hard. Hemanthah (talk) 14:35, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Hemanthah: I apologize if it came out to be harsh. My intention was to request both of you to from a consensus instead of reverting each other. -- Ab207 (talk) 14:05, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Ab207, I'd request more care before throwing 'edit war' around. I opened the discussion here and asked repeatedly for engagement. The quality of content being restored and the irrelevant edit summaries show that while not being outright vandalism, the reverts do not appear to be fully aware of relevant policies. And I reverted only twice. That's hardly deserving of your reproach. Hemanthah (talk) 12:52, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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keep it in one place. Taggede le can you answer my questions on content please. --Hemanthah (talk) 12:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ur enditing doesn't seems like constructive, if u don't know how to edit properly the wiki, plz look in to others wiki page, do u remove those wiki pages which has an extended info with their jpg? If u want to correct or clean the wiki, go with word by word correction, not removing most of the wiki page by giving unnecessary reason. Taggede le (talk) 12:19, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Taggede le, I removed 50% not 80% as you claim. And I've justified every one of my edits. Will you answer my questions above about the content you've restored wholesale? Your reasoning that there are other messy pages elsewhere is completely irrelevant to improving this article.
- Just to note, an article that's as unreadable and even border-line insulting as it is now, isn't a great way of celebrating an actress. Word count doesn't show respect, the quality of words does. Hemanthah (talk) 12:22, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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- For removal of 20k+ bytes, u just have given 4-5 reasons, which was also not appropriate, adding/removing the wiki page is not easy without providing proper reason. Wt made u to remove the occasional pics of Rashmika Mandu.? Don't other wiki pages have no such jpg? Totally baseless reasons. Taggede le (talk) 12:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Taggede le again, please keep discussion in one place. Three pics in three years where subject hasn't changed much at all - what is the value added by it? Quoting from MOS:IRELEV
Resist the temptation to overwhelm an article with images of marginal value simply because many images are available.
- About reasons, can you be specific about where my reasoning was wrong? For each section, I clearly said what was repeated, where it was repeated from and why that isn't encyclopedic. --Hemanthah (talk) 12:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Taggede le again, please keep discussion in one place. Three pics in three years where subject hasn't changed much at all - what is the value added by it? Quoting from MOS:IRELEV
- For removal of 20k+ bytes, u just have given 4-5 reasons, which was also not appropriate, adding/removing the wiki page is not easy without providing proper reason. Wt made u to remove the occasional pics of Rashmika Mandu.? Don't other wiki pages have no such jpg? Totally baseless reasons. Taggede le (talk) 12:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
New projects were added
[edit]Animal and Vijay talapathy 66 movie 49.206.53.72 (talk) 16:51, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Ethencity
[edit]She is an ethenic Kodava ( Coorg ) her mother tongue is Kodava takk language. 2405:204:520D:4535:E9C2:C508:3783:5E7 (talk) 14:08, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Chiyaan 61
[edit]It was announced that Rashmika Mandanna is the female lead opposite Vikram for his 61th film tentatively titled Chiyaan 61. 2001:8F8:1825:AE54:109E:60DE:653B:9EAF (talk) 07:14, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
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I'm her personal assistant. I need to add many many good things about her. Can I edit. 2409:4073:2E96:862B:E892:7FFF:FEFD:CACE (talk) 01:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
- Please read our policies on conflict-of-interest and how to make an edit request. OhNoitsJamie Talk 01:46, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Blazin777 (talk) 01:48, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
Addition for "In the media"
[edit]She is also the brand ambassador for the Indian division of anime licensing company Crunchyroll, having done livestreamed interviews with Crunchyroll spokespeople and an appearance at the 2024 Crunchyroll Anime Awards. She had also given them publicity on Instagram, praising their Tamil and Telugu dubs of Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba, Jujutsu Kaisen, and My Dress-Up Darling. 142.181.142.220 (talk) 19:46, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Information about box office results
[edit]@CNMall41, in all FA class articles information about the box-office results of the actor's film is given, so please stop recklessly editing. 19Arham (talk) 20:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- When did this become a FA? And can you point to the specific part of WP:LEAD where it is relevant? Let me know and I will gladly discuss but you need to WP:AGF and calling me reckless is not it. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:46, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I see that you are attempting to make this FA. If that is the case, you should address references such as these since they are unreliable. I believe I put in an earlier edit summary that I was going to do some cleanup and these are some of the things needing addressed.--CNMall41 (talk) 00:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)--CNMall41 (talk) 00:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- I apologise, you were only trying to help. I'm just confused as to why your changes aren't aligning with other FA articles. Any changes I make on this article are usually based off of Deepika Padukone and Priyanka Chopra. 19Arham (talk) 00:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- As per WP:ICTFSOURCES, The Hindu and India Today are generally reliable but I will change links to The Medium. 19Arham (talk) 00:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The publication is generally reliable but specific sources with in may/may not be reliable. These are not. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Examples that are on the page currently - India Today (reliable), India Today (not reliable).--CNMall41 (talk) 01:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The publication is generally reliable but specific sources with in may/may not be reliable. These are not. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- As per WP:ICTFSOURCES, The Hindu and India Today are generally reliable but I will change links to The Medium. 19Arham (talk) 00:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- I apologise, you were only trying to help. I'm just confused as to why your changes aren't aligning with other FA articles. Any changes I make on this article are usually based off of Deepika Padukone and Priyanka Chopra. 19Arham (talk) 00:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- I see that you are attempting to make this FA. If that is the case, you should address references such as these since they are unreliable. I believe I put in an earlier edit summary that I was going to do some cleanup and these are some of the things needing addressed.--CNMall41 (talk) 00:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)--CNMall41 (talk) 00:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
@19Arham:, just checking to see if you had interest in cleaning up the referencing. Let me know as I would be happy to do it otherwise. We can then move on with discussing the GA if you like. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I’m sorry, I would genuinely do it myself but I have no clue how to differentiate between the PR articles and the unbiased ones. I would love to talk about how the article could be improved though! Thanks! 19Arham (talk) 15:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I understand. Let me go through and do a few minor changes as an example of which ones should be replaced. Those I can replace with better sources I will and those that do not have a source simply tag as needing a better one. I can let you see the examples and then take it from there. Fair enough? --CNMall41 (talk) 17:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- That would be perfect, thank you. Thank you for this help by the way, nobody has been willing to at all lol. 19Arham (talk) 18:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I honestly think this could be a GA with the way it is fully sourced, but I know that it would get hammered in the review process if those sources are not considered reliable. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I understand. Let me go through and do a few minor changes as an example of which ones should be replaced. Those I can replace with better sources I will and those that do not have a source simply tag as needing a better one. I can let you see the examples and then take it from there. Fair enough? --CNMall41 (talk) 17:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Here is the first example. Especially with entertainment, press releases are picked up and turned into WP:CHURNALISM quite often. In this one, you can see how that happened here, here and other places. One of the most telling indicators is the byline. Most of these are marked as "News Desk" or "Entertainment Desk." Some do not have any byline despite being published in a reliable source that normally has bylines (Times of India is the best across the board example of this). I replaced with the DNA India. I cannot find any indication on the WP:RSN that it is unreliable (you may correct me if I am wrong) and this has a byline indicating a staff writer wrote it (also indicating editorial oversight). This would alleviate any concerns over WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Let me know if this makes sense. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Apart from references, what else do you think I need to do to improve the article? 19Arham (talk) 12:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- For this, I don't understand how it's unreliable, not disagreeing with you, just a genuine question. 19Arham (talk) 12:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- The reference has no byline which is the first indicator. But, if you search the topic in Google, you will see that this is one of many articles that are part of a WP:CHURNALISM campaign so likely originated from a press release or paid media. No independent fact checking. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
GA Review
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I will be taking this up for review. Expect comments shortly. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 09:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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7. Overall assessment. | Comments need to be addressed. Putting it on hold for the time being to see if the user is ready to address the comments in the short time frame. Update: Passing it as the article has been improved to satisfy the GA criteria. |
Comments
[edit]- Lead
- Move references to the article
- "... who primarily works in Telugu, Kannada and Hindi films". Based on filmography, it shoud either be "..who works in Telugu, Kannada, Tamil and Hindi films..." or "who primarily works in Telugu and Kannada films..."
- "with her highest-grossing release in the action thriller Animal (2023)." - replace in with being
- Early life
- Move citations to after end of the line punctuation
- Source does not cite that she is a Kodava Hindu, it merely references her mother tongue as Kodava language. People and language are two different things.
- "Her family had struggled financially, having difficulties finding a home and being able to pay rent" - When?
- "As a child, Rashmika attended Coorg Public School, a boarding school located in Gonikoppal, in which she excelled academically." - Source neither mentions it is a boarding school not talks about how she performed in the studies
- "However, during this time period, she expressed feeling "misunderstood" because of communication challenges, resulting in her "crying in my room for hours" and struggling to connect with peers" - Either the full sentence shall be in her own words or derived and not a mixture. It should rather be, "she expressed being misunderstood because of communication challenges, resulting in her crying in her room often and struggling to connect with her peers."
- "In 2014, Rashmika and another contestant were awarded The Times of India's Clean and Clear Fresh Face; the award was presented to her by Akshay Kumar." - "In 2014, Rashmika was awarded "Clean and Clear Fresh Face" award by Times of India, which was presented to her by actor Akshay Kumar.", any details on what the award is all about might also help.
- Early work and breakthrough (2016–2020)
- In the first line, source neither states that she made her debut in the film nor it describes the film as a romantic comedy. It also does not state that it is one of the highest grossers in history.
- Times of India linked already in the para above
- Dubious source for SIIMA award
- "she appeared in two Kannada films— the action picture Anjani Putra and romantic comedy Chamak" - Same as the first line; no description of the movies being action/romance
- "Expanding to Telugu cinema in 2018, Rashmika starred opposite Naga Shaurya in the comedy drama Chalo, a film following two lovers of opposing groups in a fictional segregated village" - Source does not mention the storyline or that it is a comedy film
- " Geetha, a strong-willed and independent woman " - source?
- the film grossed over ₹132 crore, emerging a financial success and Rashmika’s first film to gross over ₹1 billion (US$13 million) at the domestic box-office - source states 120 crore? mention of Rashmika's first success
- "...directorial Devadas in which her role..." - Devadas, in which
- "In 2019, Rashmika returned to Kannada cinema with the Darshan-led Yajamana which follows a man that attempts to prevent a relentless business tycoon from exploiting a village of its oil" - source does not state the story-line? What does Darshan led mean?
- "Rashmika's second and ultimate release of the year was the Telugu romantic action drama Dear Comrade, where she portrayed the role of a talented cricket player who, following sexist remarks and discrimination, loses her passion for the sport." - not properly sourced; "ultimate" is not required in the context
- "...Rashmika’s first commercial failure" - source?
- " action comedy Sarileru Neekevvaru, which went on to become one of the top-grossing Telugu films" - sources for action comedy, highest grossing?
- "Telugu romantic comedy Bheeshma" - source?
- Career expansion (2021–present)
- "morally-driven school teacher" - source?
- "Set against the backdrop of the smuggling syndicate of red sandalwood" - source?
- "Arjun’s love interest," - sentence ends with fullstop
- "the unremarkable Telugu" - what does unremarkable mean here, required?
- "as a grief-stricken daughter struggling to cope with the loss of her mother" - source?
- "Hindi spy thriller .....a visually-impaired woman" - source?
- "her character was poorly received and the film was panned by critics due to its unduly nationalistic views" - source neither does state about her character nor give any critics reviews
- "Pushpa 2: The Rule[86] and headline the female-led films" - Move source to end of sentence; female led - source?
- "Rashmika will next star in three Telugu films: she will reprise her role as Srivalli in the sequel Pushpa 2: The Rule and headline the female-led films, Rainbow and The Girlfriend. She will also portray Yesubai Bhonsale, opposite Vicky Kaushal's Sambhaji, in the Hindi historical drama Chaava and be seen alongside Dhanush in Sekhar Kammula's Tamil-Telugu bilingual film Kubera." - Contradictions, first line says "three Telugu films" but later it states that the second film is a Hindi film and the third one is a bilingual.
- "She will also portray Yesubai Bhonsale,"-source?
- Personal life
- "Rashmika began dating her co-star Rakshit Shetty during the making of Kirik Party," - source states that they acted together?
- In the media
- Move sources to end of line
- Last para about deepfake - Place the sources appropriately at the end of the sentences cited. Do not do WP:CITEOVERKILL at the end.
- General and additional comments
- Regarding citations, please use uniform and standard formatting across the article. For all news sources, use "cite news" with newspaper tag used with link such as newspaper=The Times of India. Dates shall be in uniform formatting, better to have it in the format "1 December 2023" rather than different formats like "2023-12-01" or "01-12-2023" or "1 December 2023".
19Arham, it would be better if you address each comment specifically and indicate the progress on how you had addressed it. On dipstick, there are still comments which are unaddressed. (E.g. still citations have all CAPS) You also seemed to have removed the entire section of her upcoming/future films, any reason? Magentic Manifestations (talk) 05:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Lead
- Move references to the article - Moved
- "... who primarily works in Telugu, Kannada and Hindi films". Based on filmography, it shoud either be "..who works in Telugu, Kannada, Tamil and Hindi films..." or "who primarily works in Telugu and Kannada films...", second option selected
- "with her highest-grossing release in the action thriller Animal (2023)." - replace in with being - changed
- Early life
- Move citations to after end of the line punctuation - ✔️
- Source does not cite that she is a Kodava Hindu, it merely references her mother tongue as Kodava language. People and language are two different things. - citation added
- "Her family had struggled financially, having difficulties finding a home and being able to pay rent" - When? - information added
- "As a child, Rashmika attended Coorg Public School, a boarding school located in Gonikoppal, in which she excelled academically." - Source neither mentions it is a boarding school not talks about how she performed in the studies - citation added
- "However, during this time period, she expressed feeling "misunderstood" because of communication challenges, resulting in her "crying in my room for hours" and struggling to connect with peers" - Either the full sentence shall be in her own words or derived and not a mixture. It should rather be, "she expressed being misunderstood because of communication challenges, resulting in her crying in her room often and struggling to connect with her peers." - wording altered
- "In 2014, Rashmika and another contestant were awarded The Times of India's Clean and Clear Fresh Face; the award was presented to her by Akshay Kumar." - "In 2014, Rashmika was awarded "Clean and Clear Fresh Face" award by Times of India, which was presented to her by actor Akshay Kumar.", any details on what the award is all about might also help. - details added with source
- Early work and breakthrough (2016–2020)
- In the first line, source neither states that she made her debut in the film nor it describes the film as a romantic comedy. It also does not state that it is one of the highest grossers in history. Citation added
- Times of India linked already in the para above - ✔️
- Dubious source for SIIMA award - stronger source added
- "she appeared in two Kannada films— the action picture Anjani Putra and romantic comedy Chamak" - Same as the first line; no description of the movies being action/romance - sources added
- "Expanding to Telugu cinema in 2018, Rashmika starred opposite Naga Shaurya in the comedy drama Chalo, a film following two lovers of opposing groups in a fictional segregated village" - Source does not mention the storyline or that it is a comedy film - sources added
- " Geetha, a strong-willed and independent woman " - source? - sources added
- the film grossed over ₹132 crore, emerging a financial success and Rashmika’s first film to gross over ₹1 billion (US$13 million) at the domestic box-office - source states 120 crore? mention of Rashmika's first success - sources added and gross altered
- "...directorial Devadas in which her role..." - Devadas, in which - ✔️
- "In 2019, Rashmika returned to Kannada cinema with the Darshan-led Yajamana which follows a man that attempts to prevent a relentless business tycoon from exploiting a village of its oil" - source does not state the story-line? What does Darshan led mean? - sources added and wording altered
- "Rashmika's second and ultimate release of the year was the Telugu romantic action drama Dear Comrade, where she portrayed the role of a talented cricket player who, following sexist remarks and discrimination, loses her passion for the sport." - not properly sourced; "ultimate" is not required in the context - sources added and “ultimate” removed
- "...Rashmika’s first commercial failure" - removed completely
- " action comedy Sarileru Neekevvaru, which went on to become one of the top-grossing Telugu films" - sources for action comedy, highest grossing? - sources added
- "Telugu romantic comedy Bheeshma" - sources added
- Career expansion (2021–present)
- "morally-driven school teacher" - sources added
- "Set against the backdrop of the smuggling syndicate of red sandalwood" - sources added
- "Arjun’s love interest," - sentence ends with fullstop - ✔️
- "the unremarkable Telugu" - what does unremarkable mean here, required - wording altered
- "as a grief-stricken daughter struggling to cope with the loss of her mother" - sources added
- "Hindi spy thriller .....a visually-impaired woman" - sources added
- "her character was poorly received and the film was panned by critics due to its unduly nationalistic views" - source neither does state about her character nor give any critics reviews - sources added
- "Pushpa 2: The Rule[86] and headline the female-led films" - Move source to end of sentence; female led - sources added
- "Rashmika will next star in three Telugu films: she will reprise her role as Srivalli in the sequel Pushpa 2: The Rule and headline the female-led films, Rainbow and The Girlfriend. She will also portray Yesubai Bhonsale, opposite Vicky Kaushal's Sambhaji, in the Hindi historical drama Chaava and be seen alongside Dhanush in Sekhar Kammula's Tamil-Telugu bilingual film Kubera." - Contradictions, first line says "three Telugu films" but later it states that the second film is a Hindi film and the third one is a bilingual. - wording altered
- "She will also portray Yesubai Bhonsale,"- sources added
- Personal life
- "Rashmika began dating her co-star Rakshit Shetty during the making of Kirik Party," - source states that they acted together? - sources added
- In the media
- Move sources to end of line - ✔️
- Last para about deepfake - Place the sources appropriately at the end of the sentences cited. Do not do WP:CITEOVERKILL at the end. - ✔️
- 19Arham (talk) 08:15, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Most comments on have been addressed. Please work on the citation formatting. Refer to comments on 2a. and general comments section above. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 13:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Will do now 19Arham (talk) 13:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Citation formatting has been altered, the two that had been capitalised have been handled 19Arham (talk) 13:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Still the formatting issue with the citations remain as is. There needs to be uniformity in the citations:
- a. Either use Cite/cite
- b. Link all the work/newspaper/publishers in the citations
- c. Use cite news with newspaper for all news citations, cite web for web references uniformly etc.
- d. Language is not required for English citations, it is default! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 07:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm slightly confused on what the issue is, I'm genuinely not saying you're wrong I just don't understand what's being asked of me. Sorry. 19Arham (talk) 12:22, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed all capitalised ''Cite'' references, all dates are in the same format, web and newspapers have been wl. anything else? 19Arham (talk) 12:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- This review has been prolonging due to lingering issues. You have been making conflicting edits, adding/making unwarranted changes apart from review comments.
- a. Why have you moved the Forbes line to the top of the lead section? It is a list which can at best be mentioned later and not required in the first para of the lead.
- b. "sponsored by American dermatology brand Clean & Clear" - too much explanation is not required as the brand is already linked
- c. "Shetty offered her the role after discovering her following a pageant win." - "Shetty offered her the role after coming across her in a beauty pageant" seems better
- d. "For the film, she learnt a new dialect of Telugu known as Chittoor." - What is this? Chittoor is a place and not a dialect of Telugu. Either it should be, she learnt the Chittoor dialect of Telugu or simply a new dialect as it was previously.
- Also, have clearly explained the issues with the citations. Repeating the same:
- a. You need to link the publisher or source to the respective article across the citations. For e.g. in #34, "The Times of India" is not linked
- b. "Language=en" parameter is not required as English is default.
- c. You need to use "cite news" uniformly for all the news articles with either newspaper or work used in the corresponding citation. E.g. "cite web |date=2018-09-11 |title=Imaikkaa Nodigal leads TN box-office for second consecutive weekend ...|website=Firstpost-us" should rather be "cite news |date=2018-09-11 |title=Imaikkaa Nodigal leads TN box-office for second consecutive weekend; Geetha Govindam continues its rise ... |newspaper=Firstpost"
- Magentic Manifestations (talk) 05:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- So once I finish all of this, the article can be promoted? Sorry for the conflicting edits as well. 19Arham (talk) 12:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Let me know once you are done with the required changes. If there are no further issues, it can get through! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 05:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- Everything is finally finished. Thank you so much for your help! 19Arham (talk) 21:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- I guess the article has been sufficiently improved to satisfy the criteria. Congrats on your first GA! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for all your help! 19Arham (talk) 06:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- I guess the article has been sufficiently improved to satisfy the criteria. Congrats on your first GA! Magentic Manifestations (talk) 04:04, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- So once I finish all of this, the article can be promoted? Sorry for the conflicting edits as well. 19Arham (talk) 12:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Most comments on have been addressed. Please work on the citation formatting. Refer to comments on 2a. and general comments section above. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 13:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 00:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
... that Rashmika Mandanna made her debut in 2016 opposite Rakshit Shetty in the Kannada romance Kirik Party?- Reviewed:
19Arham (talk) 21:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC).
A new hook is needed here as the hook may not be interesting or understandable to a broad audience, particularly if the reader is unfamiliar with Shetty. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:54, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @19Arham: Can you suggest some additional hooks below? Z1720 (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Rashmika Mandanna starred in the third highest-grossing Indian film of 2023 opposite Bollywood royalty, Ranbir Kapoor?
- That doesn't seem to be much of an improvement, not to mention referring to Kapoor as "Bollywood royalty" could fall afoul of WP:WTA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- @19Arham: are there any other aspects of this article that could be a good hook? Proposing multiple hooks is more likely to get approved. @Narutolovehinata5: do you have any suggestions of interesting aspects in which to get a hook from? Z1720 (talk) 00:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert on Bollywood so I'm probably not the best person to ask about this; besides, I didn't get much ideas from a quick skim of the article, but it could just be due to unfamiliarity with the subject. Launchballer has experience proposing ALTs for entertainers so maybe they'd have some ideas. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Rashmika Mandanna was reluctant to accept her first Hindi cinema role as she disagreed with her character's views on spirituality? jumps out, although there may be others. Also @19Arham: I strongly recommend submitting an image with this nomination, as all of the images are Creative Commons.--Launchballer 20:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert on Bollywood so I'm probably not the best person to ask about this; besides, I didn't get much ideas from a quick skim of the article, but it could just be due to unfamiliarity with the subject. Launchballer has experience proposing ALTs for entertainers so maybe they'd have some ideas. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @19Arham: are there any other aspects of this article that could be a good hook? Proposing multiple hooks is more likely to get approved. @Narutolovehinata5: do you have any suggestions of interesting aspects in which to get a hook from? Z1720 (talk) 00:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't seem to be much of an improvement, not to mention referring to Kapoor as "Bollywood royalty" could fall afoul of WP:WTA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
ALT2 sounds good and can be reviewed, though if anyone has additional hook suggestions that's also appreciated. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, I'm fairly sure the whole article needs a review.--Launchballer 14:56, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
This is the oldest fully unreviewed nomination and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, just about new enough at nine days. Earwig highlights a few phrases, but these appear to come under WP:LIMITED. No QPQ needed. Reviewer needed to approve my ALT2.--Launchballer 20:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Launchballer failed to note that the article was nominated as a new GA, which has been verified. ALT2 is cited inline, verified in the source, and interesting to a broad audience. The rest of the checks have already been done so this should be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, I'm fairly sure the whole article needs a review.--Launchballer 14:56, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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