Talk:TNT (American TV network)
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[edit]TNT has been overlaping the credits of Law and Order with the beginning sequence of another episode after it, should we add that along with a trivia section? --SuperDude 00:01, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Heres an idea for ya. How bout you stop running CHARMED. because its fake an sucks. you need to air more super natural. now thats a show that everyone watchs. SO no more charmed more supernatural. Get got it good Mountainman01 (talk) 13:31, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]THANK YOU!!! Those logo's weren't necessary, only TNT if anything should've been there
Why oh why have they taken The Lost World off on Mon.Tues.& Wed. only showing it 3 times week?
I work 12 hour shifts and I looked forward to watching the Lost World in the mornings at 6.00am. Why did they take it off the air? Would they consider putting it back.
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[edit]Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [1]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 02:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]So "International European, Australian, Latin American, Spanish and Asian versions of TNT were launched in the 1990s..." Where the hell do you yanks think is Spain??? Africa??? (or maybe Mars?):-S
85.54.191.164 (talk) 21:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- Somebody needs to take a chillpill. 24.48.160.108 (talk) 16:09, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Shows shows shows
[edit]Yo why not have the SI Swimsuit Issue specials listed in the shows the network airs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs) 00:09, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Heres an idea for ya. Stop showing charmed. Its fake an sucks an old. Supernatural is the show you need to air more. Thats the show everyone watchs. So no more charmed. More supernatural. Got it get it good Mountainman01 (talk) 13:35, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Proposed name change of TNT (TV Channel) and TNT (TV station)
[edit]Please see Talk:TNT#Proposed_name_change to read and reply to this proposal, thanks. Ubcule (talk) 15:21, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
The Mentalist
[edit]The article mentions that TNT has announced that it will air The Mentalist, but as of now, it is already airing it. So, leave it just mentioning the announcement or update it saying that it began airing the show on (whatever date)? Brinkley32 (talk) 00:15, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Requested move (2012 discussion)
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The result of the move request was: article not moved Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 02:00, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
TNT (TV channel) → TNT (U.S. TV channel) – There is a Russian TNT as well, and this is not the primary topic, so it should really be moved. 68.44.51.49 (talk) 23:17, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose. The Russian channel is called "ТНТ" (Cyrillic Te En Te). "TNT" is merely a Latin transliteration, not the actual name under which the channel operates.
Note that the Russian Wikipedia's article about the Russian channel is titled "ТНТ", despite the fact that this could (by the same logic) refer to the American channel and numerous other things. Meanwhile, "TNT" redirects to their article about the American channel. (Its association with the "TNT" name evidently takes precedence there, so it's rather odd to assert that it doesn't here.)
Like us, they include hatnotes leading to a disambiguation page. It makes sense for them, and it makes sense for us. —David Levy 00:08, 9 July 2012 (UTC) - Oppose. In addition to agreeing with David Levy's comments, the page history also indicates that the article has been moved back and forth between "TNT" and "THT". Since that has been disputed, I would rather be comfortable with the status quo and having the American channel be the 'primary' topic for "TNT (TV channel)". Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose. As above. In addition, I can't imagine that the American channel is not the primary topic if one qualifies the search as a television channel. This seems to be more about some sort of uniformity than actual ease of access or topic primacy. --Drmargi (talk) 07:31, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
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TNT airing policies
[edit]Think people would be interested to know TNT's approach to scheduling and advertising in shows.
TNT has long been famous (infamous?) for both their heavy re-use of shows and their unusually long commercial breaks.
TNT will often replay a particular movie back-to-back with itself, or will show the same movie several nights in a row, and will re-used the movie multiple times over a short period of time. I have an industry friend that said this was a "slightly sleazy" approach to programming where they buy the rights for a short period of time and milk it for everything it's worth.
TNT also seemed to pioneer the approach of delaying advertising in a movie for upwards of 30 minutes into a broadcast before the first break, but increasing the frequency as the show nears completion, often to the point where there is more advertising than movie towards the end of a broadcast. This is more apparent now that some TNT broadcasts are available online with advertisement placeholders as a plainly-visible series on the shuttle bar.
Furthermore, as I grew up with TNT i noticed that the average advertisements on other channels was almost always 2 minutes, while TNT would often spend 4 or 5 minutes. It seems to have gotten significantly longer as the years have passed. I timed a commercial break in X-Men Origins that was nine minutes long, followed by four minutes of the movie before the another eight minute break!
I can find discussions of these topics but I can't find references - does anyone have anything definitive? 98.254.50.29 (talk) 14:09, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Requested move 2013
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The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 22:51, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
– As per the relevant articles, "television channel" refers to a broadcast frequency or number in program guides. "Television network" is the right term for the content provider. --Relisted. -- tariqabjotu 03:22, 21 September 2013 (UTC) Netoholic @ 06:24, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose this is a single programming channel, not a set of stations, so it is still a (cable) channel. A content provider would be a studio/production company/distributor. -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 03:21, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- Support per Netoholic. Even if you claim its a cable channel, the way this stub is written is: "A cable channel is a television network available via cable television." So yeah, network is the correct term here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- As well, I would suggest whatever the outcome of this discussion be, be applied to TBS (U.S. TV channel) and any other pages worded as such. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- ? – But cable network redirects to cable channel – A cable channel is a television network... – so it makes no difference. Undo this move first? – Wbm1058 (talk) 19:38, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose – per Category:English-language television stations in the United States which has many channels and networks. No compelling reason to change the status quo. – Wbm1058 (talk) 19:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Weak oppose per Wbm1058. I'm extremely surprised there seems to be no standard naming guideline for cable channels. Theoldsparkle (talk) 18:12, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- Support In agreement with Favre1fan93's statement.
Bes2224 (talk) 03:25, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- Support – I tend to associate "station" with any over-the-air broadcaster with call letters and "network" as a cable or satellite channel. Obviously, the WikiProject needs to tighten up the definition. Senator2029 ➔ “Talk” 02:14, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
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Note: It was mentioned that Category:English-language television stations in the United States contains a mix of "TV channel" and "TV network" and "the WikiProject needs to tighten up the definition."
Following a period of haphazard terminology, we actually settled on "TV channel" years ago (and in the interest of full disclosure, I'll mention that I participated in that process). Most current instances of "TV network" resulted from recent undiscussed moves, performed primarily by the user behind the above request. —David Levy 04:38, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
History section needs a bit of update re: adult content
[edit]One noticeable and notable change to TNT's programming in the last few years is that a number of its original scripted series include levels of sexual explicitness and violence that was unheard of on TNT or TBS only a few years ago. Recent examples include Claws and Animal Kingdom. This change in programming policy I think is worth mention as it's a reflection of how basic cable networks are forced to become more sexually explicit and violent to keep up with HBO and the streaming services where the majority of original scripted programming is of this nature. 68.146.233.86 (talk) 06:03, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 18 October 2017
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The result of the move request was: moved to TNT (U.S. TV network). Nom makes a good case for adding "U.S." for disambiguation, others makes a good case for changing "channel" to "network" for accuracy. Jenks24 (talk) 09:21, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
TNT (TV channel) → TNT (U.S. TV channel) – I would like to reopen this move request back five years later. The main reason I would like to see this article moved is because the Russian channel is "considered to be one of the five most popular TV channels in Russia".[1] I do not speak Russian myself, but if this true, then comparatively, Russian TNT is a federal channel, while American TNT is a cable channel, not a big channel like ABC or NBC. Plus, American TNT went by its full name, Turner Network Television, until 1995, and Russian TNT was launched only three years later. So while TNT is more known on the English Wikipedia as it is an American channel, I cannot see this as a primary topic "TV channel"-wise. JE98 (talk) 02:40, 18 October 2017 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 04:23, 25 October 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. —usernamekiran(talk) 18:33, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose - To begin with, this article details a network as defined by WP:NC-BC (because they operate multiple streams of content like cable, web, and mobile/app) and so the correct title should be TNT (TV network). It is vastly more pageviews than the Russian network, but even that being the case, I would support a move to TNT (U.S. TV network) but never to 'channel'. -- Netoholic @ 06:06, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- Quite frankly, it’s obvious why this has more page views, because it’s the English Wikipedia. But in Russia, their TNT is more popular than when we talk about our TNT. JE98 (talk) 20:25, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- Right, and I support a move to TNT (U.S. TV network) to clarify the disambiguation. "channel" is what I object to. If you want to modify your move request to address that problem so that the title complies with the intent behind WP:NC-BC, that might help. -- Netoholic @ 04:10, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- Quite frankly, it’s obvious why this has more page views, because it’s the English Wikipedia. But in Russia, their TNT is more popular than when we talk about our TNT. JE98 (talk) 20:25, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Netoholic I noticed your request for moving it to "network" four years ago. However, it seemed to have been rejected then, so I cannot promise your hopes will be the ending outcome four years later. I'm neutral when it comes to channel vs. network, but my main concern is putting "U.S." in front of it, so I'm going to take your argument as a support for "U.S." in front at least. Again, for future comments, "U.S." in front is my concern. JE98 (talk) 18:51, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose – better move would be to TNT (TV network). Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Dicklyon: Again, "network" over "channel" is not my concern. "U.S." in front is my concern. If you want "network" instead of "channel", then you can set up the request after this one closes. JE98 (talk) 15:36, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
- Comment the article currently discusses other channels such as "TNT Latin America", but the entire international section has no working references. I have concerns about how the international feeds of US cable channels are handled project-wide. I'm also not sure if it should be "U.S." or "American", separately from the "network/channel" debate. And the corporate ownership has changed multiple times, so that's not a reasonable disambiguator. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:44, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
- Having sister channels in other countries gives even more legitimacy to the use of "network" in the disambiguation. -- Netoholic @ 08:32, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Данные по аудитории". Россия → Неделя → Среднесуточная доля. TNS Россия, Media & Custom Research. Retrieved 2015-05-17.
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Requested move 12 August 2020
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The result of the move request was: not moved. As referenced in the discussion below, precedence enforces the current title. There may be a larger discussion to be had somewhere to change the standardization of the disambiguators (possibly at the talk page at WP:NCTV), but that would be a discussion with a larger scope than one move request (such as this one) can cover. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 22:23, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
TNT (American TV network) → TNT (American TV channel) – TNT is a channel, not a network. —ÐW (talk/contribs) 22:12, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:36, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural contest: consensus was for "network" at Talk:TNT (American TV network)#Requested move 18 October 2017. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- What? —ÐW (talk/contribs) 00:20, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:NCBC#Networks. "Channel" is largely deprecated. -- Netoholic @ 04:12, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment – This is a noble, but pointless, effort (for one, specifically because of the activity of Netoholic on this topic, and his single-handed editing of WP:NCBC in support of his views), but I will once again point out that his argument that "channel" is largely deprecated is at best inaccurate, and his contention that everything is a "TV network" is flat out wrong. But the real problem, as it often is, is ignorance in WP:RS reporting calling everything a "network" when in fact most "cable networks" are not "TV networks" in any meaningful sense of the term. But most editors on Wikipedia won't invoke WP:ONUS sensibly for something like this, so the incorrect "network" moniker is likely to stick... FWIW. So, I would support this if we could get some consensus to disambiguate cable channels sensibly, but I doubt it will happen. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:43, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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TNT was Theater Network T.V
[edit]I just watched Clay/Liston fight 1964 and there was a large on-screen placard with "Theater Network Television" with the first letter in each word double-sized and vertically arranged. It looks like later on "ESPN" logo was added. BrianAlex (talk) 01:16, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
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