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King David

I did cite sources. I do not know what will happen to you personally. It's nothing spooky; what usually happens to people is something very bad that they perceive as good and pleasurable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.97.251 (talk) 16:33, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Wow! PiCo (talk) 03:58, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Cyrus Cylinder lead

Dougweller, I'm trying to explain to Aero13792468 and GoetheFromm that the lead of the Cyrus Cylinder article has to summarise what goes in the body, as WP:LEAD says, but they simply don't seem to accept this requirement. I would really appreciate your input because right now I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall... Prioryman (talk) 00:14, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

No, Prioryman, you have not done that. Please don't deflect. I am very well aware of WP:LEAD requirements, but what what you are adding is repetitive. Also, you are going to have to get used to the idea of actually discussing changes and allowing others to edit. Best, GoetheFromm (talk) 01:15, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Also, I know that DougWeller can appreciate this point: if you feel that there is an issue with my editing, you can always use my talk page. GoetheFromm (talk) 01:17, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

I have discussed the changes on the talk page, at length, as has Aero (to his credit). Unfortunately you have not... Actually, this is a perfect example of the problem - you have simply deleted a third of the lead with a nonsensical justification that you have not bothered to explain on the talk page. This is supposed to be a collaborative endeavour but you are simply not collaborating. Prioryman (talk) 02:36, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

I've commented on the article talk page. The controversy must be in the lead. Dougweller (talk) 06:56, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Attempt to Exclude Citations In Violation of NPOV

An attempt is being made to exclude the following citation because it associates Pepi II Neferkare with the Ipuwer Papyrus: Rothe, R.D., et al., Pharaonic Inscriptions From the Southern Eastern Desert of Egypt, Eisenbrauns, 2008 http://books.google.com/books?id=L-kijfFNiiMC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false It contains the following quote which is being censored and suppressed in deliberate violation of NPOV, "There are many petroglyphs which depict ostriches and a few that depict giraffes. Butzer (1961) has used relative frequencies of the appearance of these animals in petroglyphs to gauge the changing climate. This evidence fits well with the three OK inscriptions, at least one of which is from the reign of Pepy II, which tell of digging wells (inscriptions DN28, ML01, ML12). While it is possible that these people could be simply pioneering a new route, it seems more likely that the old sources of water were drying up. Additional weight is given to the latter argument by a passage from a document known to Egyptologists as the 'Admonitions of Ipuwer,' which described conditions during the First Intermediate Period."

I would like to include this citation, however forces of censorship wouldn't like to include this for obvious reasons -- too much reality and truth for them to handle!76.216.196.209 (talk) 18:52, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

The text is not supporting the paragraph(s) where you used it as a reference. All that we can conclude from this section is that the situation during the First Intermediate Period referred to in the Ipuwer papyrus, may have been a continuation of the situation in the land at the time of Pepi II. This had already been explained to you btw. The book just really does not belong in this section as a reference with the text as it is. If there is a section where there is mention of the deterioration of the climate and an onset of a draught as possibly evidenced by the digging of wells during Pepi's reign, then that would be a good place to use Rothe as a reference. --AnnekeBart (talk) 01:27, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Beast Hunter

I was looking for sources when you deleted Mokele-mbembe#2011: Beast Hunter, so I put it back with sources and non-promotional language. There is a very good argument that we should not have these minor sections without some secondary sourcing indicating impact, though, so no worries if you want to go clean it up. On an unrelated note, how do National Geographic and the History Channel expect us to write a decent encyclopedia when they keep broadcasting cryptozoology and pyramid power? - 2/0 (cont.) 08:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm beginning to wonder. National Geographic is getting worse and worse, History Channel I'd no longer accept as a reliable source for anything except what it broadcasts. I'm not sure about adding forthcoming stuff, will you change it tomorrow as it will have been aired? Did you see that an old book by Christian O'Brien is to be reprinted, I expect a lot of new and old articles using it as a source. Dougweller (talk) 09:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Shakespeare sanctions

See User talk:EdJohnston#General query on Shakespeare authorship question; thanks! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:13, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

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Naming conventions for archeo sites

Would you happen to know the naming conventions for archaeological sites? There has been an argument going on here Old Town (Franklin, Tennessee) for close to a year about how to structure this article, since it is actually 3 separate NHRP sites situated very close to each other. One editor wants to lump them all together under the one name, which has to include the qualifier of the nearest town in parentheses to distinguish it from the other places named Old town(26 others in the US alone). The second editor wants to split them all up under their own articles. After watching them occasionally argue for the last 6 or 8 months? year? I've recently suggested it be moved to Old Town Archeological Site, its official name which is currently a redirect. Since locally it is known as "Old Town", editor number one wants to keep it as is per WP:COMMONNAME. Is there any kind of policy or guideline or consensus on this matter that you know of? Heiro 01:34, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Happy Nowruz

Almost sure you do not celebrate it but any chance to celebrate, "I jump on it." So happy nowruz man. May you have a good and healthy new Persian year :) Dr. Persi (talk) 02:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Dougweller (talk) 10:32, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Plagiarism

I noticed that you had warned Grinevitski (talk · contribs) for plagiarising material in Cyrus Cylinder. I've found that he has done the same on Sadeq Hedayat, Johann Peter Gustav Lejeune Dirichlet and Ferdinand Eisenstein, copying large chunks of material from http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/bashiri/Hedayat/Hedlife.html and the book Carl Friedrich Gauss: titan of science. The Eisenstein article now unfortunately contains many plagiarised sections [1]. In fact, I haven't found a non-trivial edit by Grinevitski that isn't straightforward plagiarism. Given all the copyright warnings on his page, I think a block would be advisable. I'll see if I can clean up the plagiarism later on today. Prioryman (talk) 08:23, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

See User talk:Moonriddengirl#Copyvio editor problem.Dougweller (talk) 08:29, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Prioryman (talk) 08:44, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Hands of God

Hi Doug, I think I have solved this, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hands of God.

If you don't mind, I am just going to split this and redirect it to the Hand of God disambiguation page. In the meantime, you could officially close the Afd as "redirect". --dab (𒁳) 13:25, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, looks fine but I'm not sure as the nominator I can do that? Struggling with a tiny keyboard netbook doesn't help either. Dougweller (talk) 15:25, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Gospel of Matthew

Doug - We have a problem at Gospel of Matthew. This isn't a subject area I normally get involved in at all, of course - far too modern for my taste. Anyway, the problem is that when I arrived, there were 2 editors involved in what looks very like an edit war. I wasn't involved and don't want to become so. But it would be good if something could be done to break the dam. I made a suggestion, which is to seek a neutral admin. The admin will be asked to give a view on a very focused question, which is whether a certain sub-section on authorship should be retained or moved to another article. So, my question to you is, how do we go about finding a candidate? IS ANI the place? PiCo (talk) 03:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)