User talk:VernoWhitney

WTHAY? (Who the hell are you?)

Do not bother! Wait october 17, 2010. Or you'll be banned and deleted! And You'll be logged out! Bwahahahahaaa! Umutcan123456.

Montsant

Thank you for informing me about the fact that Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

I moved Montsant to Montsant DO because the former Montsant article was only about the wine and that was too ambitious a title for such a restricted field. The wine gets its name from the Montsant mountain region and the Montsant River in the same area. I regret the trouble that the move has caused and realize now that the talk page of the disambiguation is about the wine. Should I move it or should I leave now things as they are? Xufanc (talk) 15:14, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I would leave the talk page alone until an administrator comes along and moves the edit history to catch up with Montsant DO - they should fix the talk page at the same time. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Just in case you didn't notice, an admin fixed the edit history and the talk page, so everything's cleaned up now. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 03:58, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Me gone

Some men I don't recognize, expressing my appreciation.

Hi, Verno. I wanted to let you know that I'm going to be out of town at a conference (:P :P) this weekend, so I won't be available most of tomorrow (odds are good I'll log in before scooting out of town; if I'm running uncharacteristically late, I won't get on), all of Saturday and probably most of Sunday. I've asked User:CactusWriter and User:Mkativerata to help keep an eye on CP, so hopefully there won't be a backlog. (And maybe the open issue on that musician will close. :D) After you become an admin (and I trust you know that I plan to offer to nom you very soon), I imagine I'll be dropping it in your lap.

You know, I have to add that VWBot is not all that I'm taking for granted; I hope you never burn out this work. I can't remember how I got by without you around. Copyright cleanup on Wikipedia has had some major boosts recently (relative to my memory, which means "within the last two years or so") with new players entering the picture. You're certainly key among them. (Not to diss the old players, whose doors I knock on all the time. I couldn't get by without them either. :D) We're so lucky you decided to help us out. :) Hooray for us! --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:52, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I noticed you were going to be gone a bit earlier this morning—I have your talk header watchlisted for just such occasions. I'll try to work at CP some this weekend, but I've been letting SCV slide some with 3+ days built up for me to still go through, so I can't promise how much I'll be able to help. Thanks for the props, I appreciate being appreciated. ^_^ VernoWhitney (talk) 13:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

WP:RIBBON

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Two battlegrounders

I don't know whether you came across what I wrote at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Dream Focus over a year ago, but it should provide some valuable background to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Dream Focus (2nd nomination). The other background, stretching over many months, you've probably already read (since you've edited Wikipedia talk:Article Rescue Squadron from time to time). At this point, after endless provocation, insults and name calling, templates, user boxes, multiple deletion nominations, this is silliness and battleground mentality on both Dream Focus' and Snottywong's parts, both of whom have acted divisively and provocatively. (Remember User:Verbal/userboxes/ARSbackfire (MfD discussion)?) I wonder whether, at this point, we have to find some way of telling them both to give it a rest, so that us peaceable grownups around here can have some respite from this constant sniping. Uncle G (talk) 15:46, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I hadn't run across that page (before my time), so thanks for pointing me at it. I have seen the back and forth between the two of them and their supporters, including that lovely userbox. I completely agree that everyone needs to give it a rest, but as far as how to actually get them to do that... <sigh> If I knew that I'd try my hand at peace in the Middle East next. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

There will be peace in the middle east when everyone's dead. Hopefully this project will avoid that fate. Cheers, Jack Merridew 06:38, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, something a little bit less drastic would be good. VernoWhitney (talk) 11:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

My userbox was better than snotties. In a normal AfD if dream or snotty go to war, its mostly ignored beyond any rational points they may raise. But by pitting them against eachother with no actual article content at issue, its just sound and fury signifying nothing.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 13:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

You're all welcome to your opinions, and welcome to tell me to "give it a rest", however before you do so I would encourage you to look through my contributions for the last several months and try to find edits of mine that are evidence of a battleground mentality. I can't blame anyone for thinking like this about me, given the userbox I created and the subsequent MfD and that whole mess. However, since then I think I can say I've realized the futility of such actions, I deleted the userbox, and I think I can say I've minded my own business for the most part (perhaps with the exception of Colonel Warden's MfD, which was a misinterpretation by me but was absolutely in good faith, and Dream's MfD, which was only prompted by a personal attack directed specifically at me which he refused to remove). You won't find long drawn-out arguments by me at XfD's, nor will you find me engaging folks like Dream Focus, Colonel Warden, and Milowent in any significant discussion (and this MfD marks the first time I have ever engaged Dream Focus in any significant discussion, since my hand was forced, so I don't understand Milowent's comments about me and Dream "going to war" at an AfD). I make an effort to keep my comments civil, and I have never been blocked. So, again, I can understand why people would have these preconceived notions about my behavior, but if you look closely I think you'll find they are blown out of proportion. SnottyWong ^confabulate 13:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

For what it's worth as the apparent host of this spin-off discussion, I'm not trying to assign blame (I'd rather not wade through that much drama to figure out exactly who said/did what to whom when). Completely anecdotally, I just feel that every time I see one of either of your names show up on my watchlist the ensuing discussion generates more heat than light. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reinaldo Zavarce

I am slowly translating Spanish and Portugese sources... and have so far turned this into THIS. Has enough been done so far that perhaps your "weak keep" might become a bit stronger? Best, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:44, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, not being able to confirm that the Spanish/Portuguese sources were in fact reliable was all I was really hesitant about. Good job on the article! VernoWhitney (talk) 11:40, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

And funny too, I began finding sources and making improvements before ever seeing your note on the article talk page. Your sense that notability was there certainly paid off. Thanks for pointing in the right direction. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 11:43, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Jeffrey James

Restored and copyright tag removed. Note that there are still tags for other issues Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! There are almost always other issues with donated material, but the deletion reason has been addressed, so now there's at least a chance that the rest can be fixed. Cheers. VernoWhitney (talk) 12:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Enterprise Content Management

Hello Verno, you deleted a citation on the page Enterprise Content Management with the remark: 01:48, 30 September 2010 VernoWhitney (talk | contribs) (44,054 bytes) (→Characteristics: removing excessive quote in violation of WP:NFC) (undo) I just want to point out, that there was no violation of WP:NFC. The text was released by the orignal author who has all publication rights. Please review the discussion page respectivly and please restore the truncated text, because additional information got lost. Thanx. Ulrich Kampffmeyer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.182.128.2 (talk) 16:12, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out to me, I had missed that portion of the discussion page. However, since identity is not verified when an article is created I'm afraid we require some evidence that you are the author before we restore that text to the article. Would you be willing to send an email to permissions-enwikimedia.org so we can confirm that? VernoWhitney (talk) 16:27, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Done - sent an email to permissions-en. The reason why I came back with this issue is, that the shortend text is not correct in wording and meaning (a naturally I do not like being "accused" of "copyright violations". Thanx for your understanding. Ulrich Kampffmeyer Kff (talk) 16:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your cooperation. I've restored the text, and I apologize for the inconvenience. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 17:09, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Ann Olivarius

Hello, I am new to this and one of my first pieces - Ann Olivarius - seems to have been tagged for copyright problems. However, I thought I had been very careful to cite everything I said because this is an article about a living person and needs to be referenced heavily. So, I made a point to do so but, given that there're only a few lines in the piece, it somehow came too close to this person's profile on another web site. How to resolve this? Many thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pukkativa (talk • contribs) 15:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Using citations is good, and as you pointed out especially important when it comes to biographies of living people. The problem is that the sentences you are using are very close to the same as those in the source that I cited. I gave an example and some suggested resources on the article's talk page. While the facts need to be supported by references, the words you use to describe those facts can not be taken directly from the references except for when used in brief, clearly marked quotations. While your sentences are not word-for-word copies of the source, they are close paraphrases of the source, which is still a problem as they constitute derivative works of the original copyrighted material. The content I blanked needs to be rewritten from scratch so that it does not resemble the source except insofar as it communicates the same facts. Does that help to explain things? VernoWhitney (talk) 16:01, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, yes it does! I've tried to change the section according to your comments. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pukkativa (talk • contribs) 15:11, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I think it's okay, but an admin will look at it tomorrow and I'd like for them to double-check it before the article is restored. Thanks for your patience. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

'youths''[www.facebook.com/umukoyibo]

i saw ur msg i want to thank you very much this site has really helped me alot for various research work i have done or cary out once thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by El faru (talk • contribs) 19:12, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad it's helped you. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 19:50, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Lionel Wendt

Dear friend , I rewrote this Article, could you please check and let me know new situation. Thanks --Wipeouting (talk) 06:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

In short, it's still a problem. I've blanked most of the article and given some details on the talk page. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:43, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

why don't you solve this problem --Wipeouting (talk) 17:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I already did here and you reinstated it. Taking copyrighted text and incrementally altering it or rearranging it creates derivative works which are still copyright violations. In order for the content to be usable it needs to be written from scratch in your own words and language without using anything from elsewhere except for bare facts or brief, clearly marked quotations.

If you're asking why don't I rewrite it myself, the answer is because it takes me a very long time to (re)write things at an acceptable level of quality, and so I generally spend my time in areas where I am both more productive and more interested. In case it helps, I have tagged it for rescue to try to attract attention from others who are much better at rewriting than I am. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:16, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear friend, could you please see new version of this Article and let me know Best --Wipeouting (talk) 04:10, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I have reedited this article with out copy rights violations--Wipeouting (talk) 19:24, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Sant Roc d'Amer

I would like to rename the article Sant Roc (Cim) as "Sant Roc d'Amer", a better title for the English Wikipedia, but I don't want to do anything wrong. What is the easiest way?Xufanc (talk) 08:00, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and moved the page to Sant Roc d'Amer using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. More detailed instructions as well as other options are available at Help:Moving a page. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 12:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Ribbon for ribbons!

	The Working Man's Barnstar
	For your great work in Wikipedia:Ribbons Skibden (talk) 12:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Ribbon alt:

I will work on making the small ribbons, as you can see I am well on my way. As you get things sorted, I will make more ribbons. Skibden (talk) 12:54, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! And I'm glad to see more ribbons being created (even though I prefer the shadowed ones ). I'm working my way through them in the same order as on the barnstar/user award pages, and I should be able to do some more sorting every night, and hopefully finish up this weekend. I will point out that I may be overlooking some pre-existing ribbons, since it isn't always obvious which barnstar they go with, such as which may be for The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar already although I haven't tracked down a discussion for it yet, but hopefully you won't end up duplicating too much work. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:42, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I am working on getting the Small Ribbons to be similar to the Shaded Ribbons. It makes no sense to have one kind of ribbon shaded and another small (For example the working man barnstar or the minor barnstar) Skibden (talk) 13:49, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I hope it won't bother you too much since you're busy working on getting them similar, but I imagine that if I get around to making some of the larger ribbons which you've just made small ones for, I may very well take them in different directions. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

That's fair enough, as long as you make then better looking ;-) Then I'll just edit the smaller ribbons to match (after all the small ones are MUCH easier to edit than the large 3D/shadow Skibden (talk) 15:34, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I won't be putting any new ones on the ribbons page until I'm at least mostly happy with how they look. Earlier I tried making File:Allaroundamazing Ribbon.png which looks pretty awful, so it's only sitting on my userpage until I get around to doing a complete overhaul so that there's no danger of causing blindness. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:38, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Adding numbers to Ribbons

I just happened to stumble across User:VernoWhitney/Sandbox3, and thought I'd mention that

seems to work just as well without the empty space issues. HTH, HAND. :) —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 19:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll have to try that on my userpage, thanks! VernoWhitney (talk) 19:48, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Example for self:

VernoWhitney (talk) 15:36, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Stephen Cole (Headmaster)

Re. [1] - fair enough, but should the BLP-PROD still apply too?

Noting that I tagged it previously as G11 and it was deleted [2], then recreated...I'm just concerned that it might hang around forever.

It's probably A7 too.

Anyway - no worries; I just wanted to mention it because I was checking things I had CSD'd. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  07:33, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

You're right: even though it's copied from a source it's not a reliable source so BLP PROD still applies, although there are plenty of editors at WT:STICKY that feel that any source at all rules it out (since the proposal to explicitly exclude facebook/myspace sources didn't even pass). I don't really agree with their interpretation, but I tend to follow it and err on the side of caution so I only got as far as "If it's copied then there's a source". I doubt it will survive the copyvio process anyways. <shrug> VernoWhitney (talk) 11:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

It didn't have any references at all though. It didn't state the source as a reference. Just because we happened to notice it was copied from elsewhere, wouldn't preclude the sticky - unless the ref was added as a source, I suppose. But, as you say, probably doesn't matter, assuming tagged possible copyvio's are dealt with reasonably promptly. G11 might've been best all-round, (or G12). But, yeah...I was only commenting because I came across it, in patrol; no big deal.  Chzz  ►  11:57, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Paddy Monaghan

I'll put the deleted text here. Although the copyright has been resolved, it's not out of the woods yet. It has no wikilinks, it has no independent sources (should be difficult to find some for a boxing champ) and is written in a npov promotional style, eg This remarkable autobiography gives a unique insight. Incidentally, what autobiography? None has been mentioned. I do wonder if its worth getting OTRS for text, as opposed to images, because although copyright may be cleared, using hagiographic/promotional reviews as your text creates more problems than writing from scratch. I'll tweak the text a bit to give you some ideas, but it's not ready yet Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:26, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, the editors (other than those tagging for copyright violations and other problems) are all obvious socks of a coi editor, so I'm inclined to just leave it unless there is a request from another editor, since it needs so much work Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Judging from OTRS I doubt that they're intentionally disruptive socks so much as inexperienced editors. Of course, I have to tell them something now that permission has been granted which satisfies the most recent reason for deletion - if you userfy it somewhere I can tell them that it needs work before it can be moved to articlespace again, or if you reinstate it as an article it can go to AfD since I haven't actually seen significant coverage from independent sources, or if you're willing to go on record that it meets some other criteria for deletion and won't be reinstated because of that I can pass that along. Any of the three options (or something else I haven't thought of) would be greatly appreciated. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

European Moulded Fibre Association

 Done — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 19:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! VernoWhitney (talk) 19:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Kashmir Observer

I have undeleted what was there. Its a short article and promotional in tone though so I'd have just rewrote it. —Xezbeth (talk) 20:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I've now added the appropriate permission tag. VernoWhitney (talk) 20:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Update on Bob Van Ronkel.

Dear Ma'am, I'm trying as hard as I can to write a good article about this amazing person, Mr. Van Ronkel. Of course, my point of view cannot be 100% neutral, otherwise why would I bother writing an artice about someone? (If I wasn't interested or didn't care about the outcome.) It is 99,9% neutral.

It only "looks like an ad", but it by no means is. How does the actual statement of facts in the biography and professional field and basic enumeration of particular events makes "an article look like an advertisement"? I honestly don't understand what unacceptable can be seen in distinct statements. (It's not blatant lies or ads, imho.)

I take your comments seriously, but I don't like to be accused of posting blatant advertisements and being threatened with a speedy deletion of the material, I've put so much effort into.

I promise to improve the article, though. I'll mprove and update it when I can gather new,verified relevant information.

Thank you, Pobedochka. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pobedochka (talk • contribs) 22:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't believe that it is blatant advertising which is why you have not been "threatened" with speedy deletion of the article. I tagged it so that it would be improved, either by you or others. I tagged it as I did because of the lengthy enumeration of events. While listing notable events is a legitimate part of a biography, events such as "Spent three days with Mickey Rourke in Moscow during his visit to promote The Wrestler." strikes me personally more as name-dropping than an actual notable event. One of the key parts of maintaining a neutral point of view is the principle of undue weight. Among other things, this means that notable events should be those reported by reliable sources, which is to say those sources which are not the subject's own website. VernoWhitney (talk) 22:20, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Ma'am,

please tell me you have good news for us? :)

I've updated BVR article, by removing small or irrelevant events, possible self-promotion elements, any "emotional" character, etc. Also I've added a lot of new ::references and incorporated that into the body of the article.

(I've posted the update on the Talk Page here too.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pobedochka (talk • contribs) 18:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing

After looking at that page...

• 1. The actual link I used as a source is http://www.doc.state.al.us/facility.asp?id=4, not the forum source.
• 2. The template specifically for close paraphrasing is {{Close paraphrase}}, so i'll put that on there.
• 3. Based on that template you are supposed to express why you feel it is a close paraphrase at Talk:William E. Donaldson Correctional Facility

I'll see if I can rewrite it again.

But when there's a single source I find it very difficult to escape the narrative structure of that source. Usually articles begin to diverge once multiple sources are used. I intended that article to be a stub and wanted other people to expand it, but in this case I'll have to do it myself. I'll see if I can get another source and use it so that there cannot be any way that it can be interpreted as "close paraphrasing"

WhisperToMe (talk) 23:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

That template is for issues which probably don't rise to the level of copyright violation, but should still be reworded. I chose to blank it purposefully. I am aware that it is difficult to avoid closely paraphrasing a single source, but that does not mean it is acceptable. VernoWhitney (talk) 23:10, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

For an example of the problem compare your article:

Donaldson has a death row, with a capacity of 24 prisoners, for condemned prisoners who need to be incarcerated in the Birmingham judicial area.

with the source:

Donaldson has a death row with a capacity for 24 inmates that need to be incarcerated in the Birmingham judicial area.

VernoWhitney (talk) 23:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

From my understanding that template is intended for copyright concerns. The template has the copyright symbol on it. The paragraph mentioning the template, Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing#Detecting_and_dealing_with_close_paraphrasing clearly says "Unlike straightforward copyright violations, close paraphrasing is notoriously difficult to detect" - The template is to be used to mark it for cleanup.

I didn't say it was acceptable, but my point is that it's difficult to avoid, and that it's also sneaky and ambiguous.

I'll see if I can rewrite it. Lemme make a subpage on my user page.

WhisperToMe (talk) 23:17, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Alright, please look at User:WhisperToMe/Donaldson WhisperToMe (talk) 23:23, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yes, close paraphrases can be difficult to detect, but it's also most of what I've been doing on Wikipedia for the past seven months. The documentation for {{Close paraphrasing}} specifically states "If you believe the paraphrasing is close enough that it may infringe copyright, please follow the procedures at {{copyvio}} instead." That is what I did. I'll look at your rewrite now. VernoWhitney (talk) 23:24, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Your rewrite looks clean, so I have no objections to you replacing the blanking with it. Thanks for rewriting it. Cheers. VernoWhitney (talk) 23:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

About the rewrite: Good. Lemme replace it right now.

About the template instructions: Aha, I see. In that case that information should also be added to Wikipedia:Close_paraphrasing

So, when would a close paraphrasing not violate copyright? Does it have to do with the proportion of close paraphrasing within an article? Or is it something else?

To be honest, I didn't know about that close paraphrasing page and that template, and I'd been on Wikipedia for years. It's somewhat embarrassing, but now that I know about it I'll take in mind. Thank you

WhisperToMe (talk) 23:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I hadn't though of adding that to the essay, so thanks for that. I'll see if some of the other copyvio regulars have any input which can make that association on the essay page clearer.

To answer your question: Yes, close paraphrasing can be not a copyright violation if it's a small amount of text when compared to both the article and the source. Closely paraphrasing all of a short source in a long article, for example, can still be a problem. It gets fuzzier in that a copyright violation is not exactly the same as copyright infringement. We don't want to have to rely on fair use to incorporate close paraphrases of copyrighted sources (similar to the reason that our non-free content criteria for images is more strict than the usual fair use requirements), and so that middle ground of where it's likely a policy problem but probably not a legal problem is where the {{Close paraphrasing}} tag comes in; when it could be a legal problem is when blanking or simply removal (or speedy deletion) come into play to remove the content as quickly as possible.

I'd say it's probably a good thing you haven't run across the close paraphrasing page/template, since it doesn't really come up in conversation unless you're either tracking down that kind of problem or creating them (even if inadvertently). Anyways, thanks again for clearing that up. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 23:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Ukrainian Brazilian

FYI, I did oopen a talk page discussion here, although it wasn't followed up on. Which is fine with me - the article seems stable.Faustian (talk) 13:06, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I did see that, and I appreciate it, so I apologize if you felt I was saying that neither of you had tried to have a discussion. An RfC is just a bit excessive and difficult to establish when both sides aren't participating, which is why I removed the posting from the request board. Cheers! VernoWhitney (talk) 13:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

tenfu tea museum

The goal of this article is to simply identify the tea museum; therefore I think the simplest thing to do is to re-write. Wrote a new article without infringing material, follow this link to the temporary subpage. icetea8 (talk) 14:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

The Ramrods (punk band)

Thanks for this [3], for some weird reason i have been unable to open any pages for about half an hour mark nutley (talk) 19:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I was having odd connection issues this morning, so no worries. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Apologies for messing up the move and disambiguation page.  :-( Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

An admin's already fixed it and now you know for next time, so it all worked out. Cheers. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

For you to

Please look here, you might also be able to help: User_talk:SMasters#Ribbon_merge.. Skibden (talk) 14:20, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar of Diligence

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your great work in AFD I award you this barnstar. Many editors base their AFD votes on what others voted, but you take your votes case by case, being neither a deletionist or a inclusionist. I applaud that. Thank you for your work. Alpha Quadrant talk 18:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks very much! I know I try to make an effort to judge each case on its own merits, but I must admit I'm fairly surprised to be noticed given my intermittent participation at AFD. Can I ask what brought me to your attention? VernoWhitney (talk) 18:47, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

I was looking through AFD archives for a particular debate and I noticed you. I decided you deserved a barnstar, so I gave you one. Best, --Alpha Quadrant ^talk 16:49, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I was just curious. Thanks again! VernoWhitney (talk) 17:09, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Tag

I work for the company who's page this is and I have permission to copy and past from their websites history page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lawhorn's Seasonings (talk • contribs) 22:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

We appreciate your contribution, but in order to verify that you have permission to use the material we need you to follow the steps listed at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Thank you. VernoWhitney (talk) 02:35, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Mick keith money1.jpg

Hello VernoWhitney in my efforts to challenge a lot of the images pending otrs permission most have been deleted or sorted out but deleted image File:Mick keith money1.jpg has been re-uploaded with a text of an email sent into otrs with an acknowledgement email and number out from the OTRS system Ticket#2009111610003902. Any chance of checking this for me please. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 13:51, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Permission was not usable, so I have tagged it again as no permission and left a new message on the contributor's talk page with some more details about what is required and directed them to contact me if they have further questions, so hopefully that can be cleared up. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:03, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that, appreciated. MilborneOne (talk) 14:23, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem. It's the least I can do to help out someone sorting through all of those old images. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Identify age of a page?

Hi, Verno. Is there anything you know of to help identify the age of [4]? At this writing, Wayback is being spectacularly uncooperative with me, and I would prefer to resolve the question of copyright provenance clearly at Asset Management Plan if I can rather than dropping a notice on the contributor. I've had to delete one of his articles because I could not verify that we had it first, but I will be surprised if this fellow has used any content on Wikipedia that he did not author himself, even if published elsewhere first. Mind you, it wouldn't be the first time I've been surprised. But still and all, I'd rather not drop a second issue on his lap before he's even read about the first issue if it can be avoided. (This is in regards the lingering issue from Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2010 October 1.) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:41, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I saw your note about that and was just looking it up myself. The archived content of that webpage only goes up through March '08 and is only a web store - no information about the company or anything even remotely resembling the blanked text. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:45, 13 October 2010 (UTC)