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Hello, Dclemens1971

Thank you for creating St. John's Parish (Quincy, Illinois).

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Thanks

Thanks for correcting my reversions; didn't see you maintained the correct text on the front end. ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:18, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

No worries! Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:24, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi. Who are you? I see you added William Jenkins to the ACNA Bishops list. I’m just wondering who put his name there. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KDJ3517 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

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Joni Eareckson Tada

Re: your putting Joni in Category:American Reformed Episcopalians - I'm wondering whether you have evidence that she has belonged to that denomination in recent decades? It would hardly be fair to put her there just because she was brought up and confirmed there, and later expressed apprecation of the pastor who had served her church back then. I think that for some years she was at Grace Community Church, but by 2013 she was a "former member" - see Strange Fire Conference: Joni Eareckson Tada - but was evidently still on good terms with Grace's pastor John MacArthur. In fact in 2006 she had written that she was "a PCA (Presbyterian Church in America) church member now" - see Turning Evil on Its Head, and by 2017 she had been at a PCA congregation for "more than two decades" - see More than inspirational. In the light of this I will reverse your edit unless I hear back from you in the next couple of days. PeterR2 (talk) 19:33, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Anglican Church of the Good Samaritan is a very good article. Well done! BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 03:37, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Foley Beach

What is your basis for deleting his speaking engagement from November 2020 and corresponding archive.org link with his biography and other featured speakers? Loose canon (talk) 02:15, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

It lacks context for why it is relevant or significant. For all articles, and BLPs especially, information must not only be sourced; it must have context for why it is included. See WP:CHERRY. Please discuss on Talk:Foley Beach, not here.
I also suggest you familiarize yourself with WP:BLPCOI. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:20, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

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Query about Michael Breen page

I don't understand why you're suggesting the page for deletion. Breen is the CEO of a nonprofit and previously headed a think tank, both of which have their own Wiki entries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Purplewriter (talk • contribs) 14:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Please review the criteria for notability under WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Notability is not inherited by virtue of the organization someone is affiliated with but must be independently established by reliable secondary sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
I reviewed it, and disagree with you -- it is notable when someone, for example, is invited to testify at a congressional hearing and when someone is listed by secondary sources as an expert in his field -- but will try to find a couple more secondary sources. Purplewriter (talk) 17:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Chapel

I didn’t add this drawing because I’m not sure the licensing is correct since it’s an artist rendering with no credit given. Do you think it’s free to use? APK whisper in my ear 22:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Since it's been uploaded to Commons, I default to "yes," unless a user wants to challenge the validity of the license. The uploader is listed as "Christendom College" so it would be likely to be a college-owned image uploaded according to the terms of the CC license. Obviously the copyright arrangements between the illustrator, architecture firm and client would be unknown so I would assume the uploader is licensing the image in good faith. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about List of Reformed Theological Seminary people

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Hello, Dclemens1971. Thank you for your work on John Stephens (bishop). Bastun, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Hi Dclemens, nice work on your new article. I would suggest adding it to appropriate Wikiprojects, such as Biography and Anglicanism, and adding a 'photo' needed' template. Good job!

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Hello, Dclemens1971. Thank you for your work on Sione Uluʻilakepa. Moriwen, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Appreciating your good work on Anglican articles like this one! I'm usually over on the Catholic articles myself, and it always bothers me how much less coverage there is on other denominations.

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Bishop Julio Cesar Martin

Thank you for reverting the false information about my resignation. Most appreciated. Did the Anglican Communion Office ask you to correct that?

Again, thank you. 200.68.170.59 (talk) 21:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

No. I have no affiliation or communication with the Anglican Communion Office or any related body. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:30, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi there!
The federal Judiciary just gave a sentence that suspends the government opinion that Treviño is the legal representative and Primate based on gross irregularities and violation of canon law in the "election" of Treviño back in 2022. Therefore legally Moreno is the Primate.
Where can I send you the backing document?
My email jc.martin at hot mail dot com 200.68.169.88 (talk) 21:26, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
To make a change to the Wikipedia page, we would need independent, reliable, secondary sources -- ideally reporting in news/media outlets -- instead of judicial opinions (which would be original research) or Facebook links. If you have any links you can share, English or Spanish, I will take a look. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Let me ask the lawyer...how to upload the document or create a link... It is not a legal opinion, it is a sentence issued by a federal judge. 2806:2F0:7521:F4E9:5490:7F02:696C:B3D8 (talk) 06:26, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

MIAX

Thanks so much for taking the time to review these articles in AfD, especially taking the time to disambiguate between the references to the parent company vs. the exchange. I know that must've been nontrivial effort on your part. I've also incorporated the journal article that you identified into the MIAX Pearl article. Cara Wellington (talk) 17:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Participating in AfD is labor-intensive if we do it right! Thanks for the kind words. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:32, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, thanks for reviewing my Jeff Johnson article. I noticed you deleted a significant chunk of my edits due to copyright violation. I put this on the article's talk page, but the Archives West finding aid is CC0, meaning it is public domain. I added the text back because I do not believe it constitutes a copyright violation on Wikipedia. Mathieulalie (talk) 16:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

@Mathieulalie I see that now in the endnotes. The article does not follow the WP convention for noting the use of open license material - see instructions here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Adding_open-license_text_to_Wikipedia. Also, I am going to give some time for you or other editors to add more independent, secondary sources, but right now the sources in the article don't support notability for the subject. I would anticipate sending this to Articles for Deletion for a discussion in the next couple weeks if appropriate sources aren't identified. Thanks! Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Could you please explain what specifically the article needs to achieve notability? According to the Wikipedia notability guidelines for biographies, there must be multiple independent reliable sources. I believe the article meets that standard, as I have included excerpts from his biography on the finding aid and multiple articles about him from independent sources. The only time the article relies on primary sources are in quotes or paraphrased quotes. Mathieulalie (talk) 19:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
@Mathieulalie Quick walk through the footnotes: 1/5. Oral histories and personal papers are primary sources (Johnson talking about himself), which cannot be used to verify notability. (If someone else wrote the bio of him, then maybe that's different but it would depend on who wrote the bio, and the default conclusion from the site's language is that the bio originated with him.) You can use this to verify uncontroversial facts but not for notability. 2/7. Ballotpedia is a user-generated source and questionable for notability. 3/9. The Stand is non-independent as a publication of the organization Johnson led and thus unusable for validating notability. 6/8. NW Labor Press is the equivalent of a trade publication, which doesn't go toward notability. See WP:TRADES. Only source 10, the News-Tribune piece, constitutes significant, independent, secondary, reliable coverage of Johnson. Some of these sources can be used to verify information, but only one points to notability and we would need to see more like that. Please review WP:GNG and WP:NBIO for more. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for clarifying. To clarify about the biography from the finding aid, it was not written by Johnson himself, it was written independently by the staff of the Labor Archives of Washington and University of Washington Special Collections (as was everything else in the finding aid). Does that make it qualify for notability? Mathieulalie (talk) 19:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Likely not. First, the source would need to specify the author. Second, I would question the independence of the anyone at the Labor Archives of Washington as a source for this topic, since the organization that Johnson led is listed as a major funder of the archives and Johnson was himself a director of the organization (https://labor.washington.edu/labor-archives#about). The more I look into this, the less likely this subject can be proven notable using the Labor Archives biographical material. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

2026 Asian Para Games

Hello, Dclemens1971,

I was wondering why you converted this article to a redirect when we also have a valid article at 2026 Asian Games. Are the Para Games somehow less important? That AFD you are basing this decision on occurred 6 years ago and this event is now only 2 years away. Liz Read! Talk! 20:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Are there multiple independent, secondary, reliable sources on it yet? Didn't see any in the 2026 Asian Para Games article (or elsewhere, as I'd expect for an event still two years in the future). I do see those sources for the 2026 Asian Games so it makes sense there's a free-standing article. It would be customary to at least have a discussion on the talk page before reverting a decision made at AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft: The Grove, Harrow School

Hi Dclemens1971,

I have a draft thats pending review about a Grade 2 listed building in the UK. Under WP:GEOFEAT, any listed heritage building is notable. I have followed instructions of a previous reviewer to alter the text to be about the building more rather than the boarding house, and he has asked for a second reviewer. Perhaps you can help? Thank you very much, especially for your review of my article Lumina Shanghai. Daftation 🗩 🖉 10:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eugene Stanaland

Reply to your message about WP:NPROF. You said that the student-run paper would not qualify as a notability requirement, but #6 in the specific criteria says otherwise. Am I misinterpreting that? I might be Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Yoblyblob Number 6 at that link says "The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society." That would be university president, which he wasn't? Did you mean to link something else? The governing policy on student-run media is at WP:RSSM, where it says: "However, given their local audience and lack of independence from their student body, student media does not contribute to notability for topics related to home institutions." That is, a student paper cannot be used to say a person at that institution is notable. Hope this is helpful. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft: The Grove, Harrow School

Hi Dclemens,

Another question on the draft again - I've looked through tons of documents now, even paper archaeological reports of the Grove from 1986, I cannot find any accounts on when it is built. According to the listed building entry of the Grove, it shows it is built in the mid 18th century, but according to the documents I am reading, the building is referred as a different building to the original, but it never says what year it was constructed. Should I just go for the listed building entry and say it is built c.1750? Daftation 🗩 🖉 17:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Ive also added a few secondary sources which should push up the notability. I will cite some paper sources later. Daftation 🗩 🖉 17:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Date of building for Draft:The Grove, Harrow School

Hi Dclemens,

Thanks for your failed verification tag. I have now found some evidence that the building date is actually unknown, cited in the introduction. I don't know if this is enough for it to be moved to the article space. There is literally nothing out there that tells me the date of construction. Is it possible if you leave a comment this time if it still isn't ready on what needs to be improved? Thanks, and sorry for bothering you about this draft for so long. Daftation 🗩 🖉 19:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Republishing Draft:American history wars

Hello Dclemens,

I just added substance to the article Draft:American history wars that you removed a few days ago for lack of evidencing. Maybe you could take a look and see if it is sufficient? If there's anything else you want me to change or add, let me know. I didn't remove anything already there, and some of that may need tweaks.

Thanks! User409584302 (talk) 02:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Improve Instead of Nominating For Deletion

I noticed that you nominated Voice Of Life for deletion. Instead of wanting it removed, just improve it... Aikolugbara (talk) 09:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Douglas Kuria

Hello, Dclemens1971,

You were the nominator of this AFD discussion. You should not have closed the discussion unless you were withdrawing your nomination. Please do not do this again in the future. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry @Liz - it looks like I misunderstood the speedy keep provision for non-admin closures and I see my mistake now. Won't happen again and I appreciate your bringing it to my attention. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Access to Gale databases

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PAR Technology Draft AfC

Hi there! I just wanted to say my thanks the comments you'd left on the draft I had been writing for PAR Technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:PAR_Technology

Given that your comments were direct, specific and helpful, I was able to use your advice to fundamentally re-write the article to be a bit more short and succinct.

Thanks again! LeLiPAR (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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This article show the in formation Qalinle musicain and artist,

Qaline was a prominant Somali artist, musician, and singer. If you unhaby with this article, delete of all them 154.115.222.186 (talk) 11:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I came across this in New Page Review, reviewed the sources and did a WP:BEFORE search a determined this subject does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Please do tell

(“There’s an inner circle of the Michael Jordan(s) of signature-gatherers. I’m not trying to toot my own horn, but I am one of them.").

Please tell us what makes you an MJ of petitioners?

Thank you Alympia Firnanda.Reena (talk) 18:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

@Firnanda.Reena: It was in quotation marks because I was quoting Arenza Thigpen's comments on himself. I never said that about me; please read carefully! Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
This is what the editor is referring to, I'm guessing. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arenza Thigpen Jr. (2nd nomination) Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks @Joe! Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

skeptical approach to editing wikipedia

Hi Dclemens1971, I want to discuss having a skeptical approach to editing wikipedia. ( if there is a more appropriate place to have this discussion then I'd be happy to discuss moving this there. )

My view as someone with more than a passing interest in preserving the history of a schoolyard game is that it benefits wikipedia to record encyclopaedic knowledge across the broad spectrum of human experience.

I do like the skeptical approach generally but I do think it has its limitations and can at times be detrimental to encyclopaedic knowledge where it seeks to discredit a kids schoolyard game for example. In comparison, a skeptical approach of a wikipedia page contributor who benefits from listing their business details on the page they created on the other hand is very useful and helpful in maintaining wikipedia standards.

Let me know your thoughts perhaps? Rockycape (talk) 23:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

There's lots of useful knowledge in the world. Wikipedia is one place where it can be collected, but only under certain circumstances. I don't doubt that you and/or your kids play some variation of a recess game called "down-ball," but what we've asked you to do in the AfD discussion is to provide secondary, independent, reliable sources to validate this claim. The sources you've provided indicate that the term refers to other games or to the game downball, not some other game. You've also offered your personal experience and videos that you have personally uploaded. Wikipedia's core policies include no original research and verifiability, which means we need more than what you've provided. It's not "skepticism"; it's the way this site is built and anyone who wants to come into this community needs to play by those rules. Those are my thoughts. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:45, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Dclemens1971 - can you provide any further direction on what level of proof/evidence is acceptable? What are your thoughts on the proof/evidence of the existing page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopscotch? Is there another existing page that you think demonstrates sufficient proof/evidence? Rockycape (talk) 03:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
If you cannot tell the difference between the sourcing on Hopscotch and the sourcing on your "down-ball" page, I do not think it will be productive to continue this conversation. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
There is no need to be rude and I don't appreciate it. Rockycape (talk) 03:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
It is perfectly fine for an editor to state that the utility of a particular conversation has been exhausted. I do not see any rudeness here, just a commonsense attempt to save valuable time of all editors involved. Викидим (talk) 07:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Remember that you too were once a newcomer. Treat others as you were treated (or, probably, wish you had been treated) when you first arrived. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers Rockycape (talk) 22:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
See my reply to you at User talk:Викидим#Improve, don't remove. One more advice to newcomer: try to keep each discussion in one place, see WP:MULTI. Викидим (talk) 00:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
As of today the Down-ball AfD and Down-ball article has been deleted without warning. There was no consensus reached and the AfD had recently been re-listed to gain consensus. Back to the drawing board I guess. If I create this page as a draft is that acceptable to Dclemens1971 ? Rockycape (talk) 02:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
My page Down-ball existed for about two weeks before it was deleted. That's not a lot of time for a newcomer to get their article up to scatch. Now time I would have spent getting the article up to scratch is being diluted by trying to navigate the AfD and now the Deletion Review. Another Editor kindly informed me the Deletion Review would be likely decided in a week. Rockycape (talk) 06:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
@Rockycape Please don't claim to be a newcomer; we can all see that you have been active on Wikipedia since 2018. You appear unwilling to receive feedback from a variety of other editors who have all engaged with you in good faith, and you have bludgeoned discussions at AfD and on user talk pages trying in vain to make the same point without reference to others' perspectives. I don't think it's productive for this conversation to continue at this point. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm certainly a newcomer in regard to my experience in that it's my first time participating in a AfD and now a Deletion Review. My experience is limited to creating a page back in 2018 and now a page in 2024 both of which are on the record. I get concerned when you speak as "we" so perhaps peak for yourself Dclemens1971. Happy to leave this particular discussion there as per your preference. Rockycape (talk) 23:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
"We ... all" is an inclusive we here. Everyone (including you) can check the history of edits indeed. So Dclemens1971 does not speak for any particular group here, just makes a factually correct statement. Викидим (talk) 00:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Earwig PSA

You may want to read Wikipedia:NOTEARWIG. Earwig is wonderful, but it has some pretty severe limitations. Hopefully you find this helpful in the future! In the end, I did end up referring Desert fortresses of Judaea to copyright problems pending presumptive deletion after finding that some material had been blatantly lifted from one of the PDF sources. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 03:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up @GreenLipstickLesbian. Appreciate the PSA. Dclemens1971 (talk) Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted

Hi Dclemens1971, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the new page reviewer user right to your account. This means you now have access to the page curation tools and can start patrolling pages from the new pages feed. If you asked for this at requests for permissions, please check back there to see if your access is time-limited or if there are other comments.

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Thanks @Hey man im josh! Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Crocker Church

You will see that I accepted this. I left a rationale on its talk page. I have also warned the creating editor about ownership of articles.

Thank you for your work to seek to break the deadlock.

I have also found the creating editor almost impervious to advice. I hope they will adopt a more collegial approach over a very short time 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

@Timtrent Thanks. I voted "redirect" only, as the content and sources worth saving have already been merged and it will be a cleaner wrap on the page. The editor can carry on the debate about how much detail to include on the talk page for the church. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
I think they will carry it on for some time. 😇 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the ANI with Blanes tree

Hello @Dclemens1971: As you are a long time editor, I want to solicit your opinion about whether I should mention the following information in the ongoing Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Blanes tree discussion.

While browsing the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/W. David Marx, I noticed the sudden appearance of a new editor who is the only person to support Blanes tree's deletion request: Likisa. When they created their sandbox page shortly after registering last month, Likisa publicly identified themselves in their edit as an "alt of Bloxxer"—an editor still indefinitely site-blocked for misbehavior and for being a sockpuppet of Wagner, likewise indefinitely blocked for abuse and sockpuppetry. Wagner has over 60+ indefinitely blocked alts. See Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Wagner.

Again, it's curious that this brand-new alt account with barely a few edits, created by an editor who has been indefinitely blocked 60+ times for misconduct and sockpuppetry, suddenly appeared to support Blanes tree's deletion request. Should I include this information in the ongoing incident report or do you think this would muddy the waters too much? — Flask (talk) 03:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@Flask Mildly suspicious but not dispositive, and the original situation is resolved. If you want to report likisa, I think the best forum is SPI. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:52, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
If you're wondering, yes. I'm a alt of Bloxxer. I will say that this is not a sockpuppet. Instead i just fix red links a lot. I may not be that much active. Likisa (talk) 12:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
It's a bit funny, but, yeah. I'm not a sockpuppet of Wagner. I head of that military thingy called Wagner, but not a actual Wikipedian User (lmao) And 60+ times? I don't remember it LOL.
Also, i apologize for doing that "One Piece is based off a true story" troll. ButcherDoom was just a account I WANTED to get it banned, so theres's that. I will admit it. Likisa (talk) 12:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
I agree with Blane's deletion request, but he is pretty heckin stupid, outside of it. My user page was clearly bad and i contradict all of it. Bloxxer was a account created by me i think, but i'm not like a Albert Einstein. I will say that, i didn't know that Bloxxer was a sockpuppet account created by Wagner. Likisa (talk) 12:40, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
I forgot what time i made the Bloxxer account, lol. Likisa (talk) 12:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

@Flask...

Wagner and his socks have not edited here since 2012-2013, and I think it is pretty unlikely they would come back after 11 years and edit in a completely different topic area (video games for Wagner, but Turkish articles for Likisa; just compare the contribs). Likisa also seems to be ESL and so what they meant by alt of Bloxxer could have been BloxxerWhat instead, as they claim in their unblock request. That was simply lost in translation. Them being BloxxerWhat would fit better, as BloxxerWhat also has interest in subject matter related to Turkey.

I'm not sure if @PhilKnight confirmed this by CheckUser, but an SPI case wasn't opened when it should have been. Not really ideal to make blind accusations like this without evidence. If the sockpuppetry was indeed confirmed by CU, then I apologize. But personally, I think the case would fall flat on its face because there simply aren't compelling diffs that would imply WP:DUCK behavior to connect Likisa to Wagner and his socks.

I'm sorry, but until it is proven otherwise, this was simply a bad block based on unfounded accusations. — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 02:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

@Flask @That Coptic Guy @Likisa As I said above, I don't think there was anything dispositive here and I was only pointing out that SPI is the place to raise that question, not AN/I. I have no opinion on this block and would appreciate it if users could move this off my talk page to a different forum. Thanks! Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

HI

Hello how are you? can you check this topic and what is your opinion ? 

Ilovethehistory9 (talk) 13:59, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
I don't understand the query and I am not sure why you are spamming lots of talk pages with the same message. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:01, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for the inconvenience, I'm asking about the topic and I think there should be a page about it if you're interested Ilovethehistory9 (talk) 14:03, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
That subject is not notable for a Wikipedia entry. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:04, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
why ? We have reliable and comprehensive coverage in several languages ​​from well-known local newspapers
from Anadolu Agency - TRT World - daily sabah and in turkish - yeni safak - aksam and more in turkish and arabic Ilovethehistory9 (talk) 14:05, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Fine, create a draft and submit it at Articles for Creation. If you have good sources, then it will be accepted. It you have general questions, please visit the Teahouse. Asking random editors for their opinion on hypothetical articles will not help get an article written and reviewed. Have a nice day! Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:09, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
They won't be able to create a draft, as they are once again blocked for block evasion. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Thanks Ohnoitsjamie, did not know the history on this particular sockmaster. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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Death of Ruth Perry

Thanks for the heads up about the page Death of Ruth Perry. Now if you check the page history you'll see that I created it as a redirect, not as an article. While it's notable enough as a redirect I agree it certainly isn't notable enough as an article. My suggestion is changing it back to a redirect. Might I also suggest checking more thoroughly in future, and reading up on when is appropriate to use user warnings. Thank you, This is Paul (talk) 16:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

See that now. Thanks and sorry for the tag -- it was to notify the page creator that it had been redirected. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
No worries, This is Paul (talk) 16:28, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Reed this plase

why you delete CDE Entertainment and Embracer Freemode Alsadyee215 (talk) 16:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

@Alsadyee215 -- I did not delete them. I restored redirects to their notable parent companies. The subsidiaries do not meet Wikipedia's notability standards for companies (see WP:NCORP and the requirements there). If you can add sources that are secondary, reliable, independent and provide WP:SIGCOV of these subsidiaries, then they can be restored as standalone articles, but if you remove the redirects without adding acceptable sources, I will nominate the page(s) for deletion. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Orphan article Ruben Natal-San Miguel

Greetings, Today I de-orphaned this article by adding a link at Arecibo, Puerto Rico article, Notable people section. I also removed Two orphan tags; first from "May 2024"; second from "September 2024". After two months, the Orphan tag becomes "invisible" so only way to check (Edit-lead) or page bottom (All visible Categories).

Cheers, JoeNMLC (talk) 20:48, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Can you review my page? :)

Hey. Hope you're doing well. Just checking if you can review a page I wrote - Rusha & Blizza. Thank you. LaraKapoor (talk) 18:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

No, I do not review pages upon request. I review them as they come up in the queue. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Article by a pop singer

Hello, how are you? I would like to request that you give me advice on how to publish this Article that I have in my workshop and that twice a user has been transferring it to me when deleting it because according to him the article does not meet the requirements of musical relevance, I The article seems confusing. I have carefully structured it so that it meets the notoriety requirements. I have searched for credible, independent and well-known sources such as Rolling Stone, The Times of India, Samaa TV, Bollywood Hungama, Music Business Worldwide. Among others from his country, the singer has also participated in the Coca Cola television program Coke Studio Pakistan season 15 and has recently also been listed as the most listened to musical artist on Spotify Pakistan and India. I don't know what more relevance it should have apart from of everything mentioned, thanks for your attention. --Alon9393 (talk) 17:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Alon9393 You can follow the processes to submit to WP:AFC. If the sources are appropriate, the reviewers there will accept it for publication. If they don't, you need to consider their reasoning for why. It looks like it has a lot of tabloid news sources, which do not contribute to notability per WP:SBST. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Rolling Stone is not a sensationalist source, it is a magazine dedicated to music and popular culture in a professional way since 1967. Do you have the same opinion as the user who sent me a draft of this article, who I assume has not read the sources or the context? historical but well I will continue looking for that advice because this article is relevant, the AFD was recently there and the result was maintain I do not understand why Saquiq sends it to the draft persistently there are articles much less relevant than this one, and there are Fasl-ı Cedid. --Alon9393 (talk) 18:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
@Alon9393 You didn't cite Rolling Stone, you cited Rolling Stone India, which is not the same. RS India has licensed the brand from the parent publication. Many Indian news sources have major problems with paid news (see WP:NEWSORGINDIA). In this case, it doesn't appear to be paid (since it's a critical review), but many of your other sources may be. This one is signed "Entertainment Desk", and this one is signed "Web Desk"; unbylined articles are more likely not to be reliable. As for Saqib's draftification of your two drafts, he clearly thinks your sources don't support the notability of this subject. HOWEVER, his is not the last word on this. Read WP:DRAFTOBJECT: "Other editors, including the author of the page, but excluding editors with a conflict of interest, have a right to object to draftifying the page. If an editor raises an objection, move the page back to mainspace and, if necessary, list it at AfD. A page may only be moved unilaterally to the draftspace a single time. If anyone objects, it is no longer an uncontroversial move, and the page needs to be handled through other processes, such as deletion, stubbing, tagging, etc." If you truly object, just tell him so on his talk page. He may move the page back to mainspace, or you can. He will likely nominate the article for deletion, at which point the broader Wikipedia community will have eyes on it and weigh in. Good luck. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
@Alon9393 Heck, if you object to the draftification, tell me here and I'll move it back to mainspace and notify Saqib. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:53, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Can you help me in that aspect, I sincerely do not want to talk to that user. You could contact him and request that you analyze the article even though I have a hard time believing that the last word is his. please. Alon9393 (talk) 20:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
No, please don't move that to mainspace. Drmies (talk) 20:32, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
@Drmies I have no comment on whether it should stay there. It's clear from this user though that the draftification is controversial and thus should be reverted and an AfD process ensue. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Drmies A user made the decision to keep the article and Sadiq did everything possible to delete the article and return it to the Draft. that's arbitrary. Alon9393 (talk) 20:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
@Alon9393 Liz kept the article procedurally because you made an inappropriate AfD nomination. It was not a complete discussion with a "keep" result. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
I don't think it should be moved to mainspace because the creator doesn't like it in mainspace. Drmies (talk) 20:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
I think it's pretty clear from thread that the user wants it in mainspace. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant "doesn't want it in mainspace". And moving it to mainspace so we can put it up for deletion, that seems like a weird idea to me. Drmies (talk) 23:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Oh, you already moved it. Well. Drmies (talk) 23:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
That's the procedure under WP:DRAFTOBJECT. The page creator objected to Saqib's draftification. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
But come on there are bands Fasl-ı Cedid musicals/musical artists who do not present the relevance and notoriety that is required but are published in the main space without any objections or obstacles. Why the article I was creating about the Pakistani musician Abdul Hannan? It cannot be in the main space if, in addition to having coverage of more than 23 references, it has been highlighted a lot. Why? The issue here of notoriety is not because of the references that another background will exist. Alon9393 (talk) 20:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Drmies, Dclemens1971 Hello, I inform you that Saqib opened an AFD in Abdul Hannan (singer) it seems that this user does not want the article by pop singer Abdul Hannan to exist and even though in his PD he indicates that he helps the articles of his country. Pakistan but in what way, no idea. As I mentioned before, the way it is practiced against that article is evident from my side, that article meets the requirements of musical notoriety, but we will see what decision the community as a whole makes. Alon9393 (talk) 19:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Alon9393, he indicates that he helps the articles of his country. Pakistan It doesn’t mean I’ll allow garbage to remain. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:51, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
@Saqib At no time have I said to vote for the article in this comment, I leave this question to the community that Whoever decides, from now on I will refrain from making any comments and participating in the vote that you just opened. Alon9393 (talk) 19:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Alon9393, You should have trusted the AFC review process and submitted the draft for review, rather than insisting on moving it directly to the main namespace. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
@Saqib By the way, Abdul Hannan is one of the artists most listened to by young people in your country, or maybe you are not Pakistani where you are from then so as not to knowing that and his music is not garbage, he has participated in the COKE STUDIO of COCA COLA. Alon9393 (talk) 19:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
@Saqib, By the way, Saqib, I was not the one who brought the article that you moved from the draft to the main space. was the user Dclemens1971 .. Alon9393 (talk) 20:03, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Alon9393, Abdul Hannan is one of the artists most listened to by young people in your country, I don't care. maybe you are not Pakistani where you are from then Yeah, right, I’m from Skull Island. his music is not garbage, Who said his music is garbage? I never said that. I haven't even listened to it, so why would I say that? The BLP, however, is garbage. I was not the one who brought the article that you moved from the draft to the main space. They did it because you insisted. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Dclemens1971, sometimes we really shouldn’t be wasting the community's time in AFDs when it’s clear a newbie is just trying to avoid the AFC review process. --— Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@Saqib Ok, so it's rubbish that Hanan gets significant coverage from Red Bull, The Times of India, Rolling Stones India, Sama TV, Spotify. I understand it Saqib, you have not stood out in anything and you are frustrated by the fame of others, I understand you, I know it is difficult for you. Alon9393 (talk) 20:15, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
@Alon9393, this kind of personal attack is unacceptable. You must stop immediately, apologize and strike out your insults. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
@Saqib, WP:DRAFTOBJECT is quite clear about what should happen when an editor objects to unilateral draftification. It cannot be an end run around an AfD if the editor is unwilling to wait. Ultimately it’s worse for the creator of a poorly sourced page, but they tend not to realize this. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Alon9393, this is Dclemens's talk page. You need to discuss this elsewhere, like the article's talk page--please stop filling up this editor's talk page. As for the insults and the snide comments--it has to stop. Drmies (talk) 22:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of St. John's Shaughnessy

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DePRODing 3D printing in India

Hey. While patrolling, I recently dePRODed an article that you had proposed for deletion (3D printing in India). I objected because while I agreed with you that the topic does not merit a standalone article, I think at least some of the content should be preserved, possibly by merger into 3D printing. If you still want to delete, you are welcome to nominate the article through wp:AfD. I just wanted to check in to see if you were intending to nominate, because if you don't I will hopefully propose a merger. -- Lenny Marks (talk) 23:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

@Lenny Marks I don't think there's much in there worth merging given how ESSAY-like it is, but what material you find appropriately encyclopedic I have no objection to merging. I would recommend going ahead and WP:BOLDLY doing a merge rather than proposing it as I doubt it would be controversial. Good luck! Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Move of article on portuguese rail halt

Hi. You moved and changed the article on the Marvila halt to rename it as a station; one of the edit summaries says this is a translation error. Can you elaborate?

Marvila is a halt, be it by the features it lacks (only has platforms on the main tracks, has no sidings, nor switches, and is probably also in the middle of automatic block with no entry/exit signals), be it according to the portuguese rail stops listings (both IET50 and the "network statement" list it as a halt). So what's the matter here?

Unless there's a compelling reason to name it "station", I'm inclined to move back to "halt" and revert the wording edits. njsg (talk) 09:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

As Wikipedia itself explains, a halt is a kind of station, so I don’t think this is inaccurate and I do think it is compliant with MOS:JARGON. If you disagree, I won’t object to your moving it back. Dclemens1971 (talk) 10:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of a page

Hello User:Dclemens1971, I would like to take your opinion on the subject of deletion of these pages Honneur Stadium (Oujda), Stade d'Honneur I already marked them for deletion but I want you to review them just for being sure Mo Amine M (talk) 13:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

@Mo Amine M I'm not sure they were transcluded correctly to the daily log as I don't see the discussion. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Mo Amine M, you never added these redirects to the correct RFD daily log for September 26th so there can't be a discussion about them. Please follow the instructions at WP:RFD, it's not enough to put a tag on a page. Remember to notify the redirect creator, too. It's easiest if you use Twinkle to handle tagging pages for deletion discussions. Liz Read! Talk!

Recent draftifications

Hello, Dclemens1971,

I hope you independently assessed these articles and their sources before moving them to Draft space and you didn't do so only because two editors recently created them. As I said somewhere (either on ANI or an AFD), I came across a few articles about notable people who the editors claimed were part of this Empathetic Movement but the sources supporting this claim were either absent or weak. Liz Read! Talk! 00:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

@Liz I did review the sources that were available to me and they didn't appear to support notability. (When I'm working on a batch of similar articles or articles by a single editor, I will often review sources as a batch, then take review actions in a batch, so it might look like I'm not checking, but I am.) They were all created by a single editor (a blocked sock and puppet). I marked a couple as reviewed where there was a GNG pass. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:42, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

PCC Eagles

Thank you for reading my new page: Pensacola Christian Eagles. I must ask what made you decide to put the "additional citations" banner at the top of the page. I carefully constructed all of my sources and carefully considered how many were needed. Can you please elaborate on where I need to add additional sources or perhaps move some around so that we can eventually take the banner down? Thanks! Wjenkins96 (talk) 23:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

@Wjenkins96 Here are a few statements I see that need verification or better sourcing:
  • "Their most recent appearance in 2021 marked the first time the Lady Eagles advanced past the pool stage of the tournament before they were eliminated in the semifinal round by Johnson University (TN)."
  • "Their main rival was Alabama Christian College, now known as Faulkner University."
  • "The Arlin R. Horton Sports Center is the home arena for the basketball and volleyball programs. It opened in 1993, and, along with the 3,199-seat arena, includes an ice-skating rink, a bowling alley, a rock climbing wall, wallyball/racquetball rooms, a waterpark with a FlowRider, and an inline skating rink, among other amenities."
  • "Pensacola Christian's de facto rival is Bob Jones University considering both founders of Pensacola Christian College graduated from BJU. The rivalry has been in place ever since the Bob Jones Bruins began an intercollegiate athletics department in 2012." (The source provided does not validate anything in these sentences except that BJU is a PCC rival.)
  • "Despite being in the state of Florida, Pensacola Christian's athletic teams have rarely competed against schools of the Sunshine State Conference," (This sounds like WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH and should probably removed unless you can provide a source. The sources in the bullet points verify the times the competitions have happened but don't state that such matchups are rare.)
Overall the article is in good shape but WP:V checks are part of new page review. Hope this helps! Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
(1) This source is listed in the table below that text in the 2021 row. I can put that source next to "Johnson University (TN)" as well for better clarification.
(2) Extremely limited information is available on PCC's short-lived baseball program. Under External Links is a document where I list wrestling scores, baseball scores, along with volleyball and men's basketball scores that are not on PCC's athletic website. I know for a fact that all wrestling scores have their sources clipped (if they came from newspapers.com), but I have yet to do that for baseball (it's only the URL for the newspapers.com article which can only be seen if you have an account). Alabama Christian was the most common opponent that I found.
I could replace that sentence with the fact that PCC and Alabama Christian played an extremely unusual triple-header on April 10, 1982, albeit with abbreviated games (they were five, six, and seven innings respectively).
(3) The amenities at the Arlin R. Horton Sports Center are listed on its associated Wikipedia page, which I also wrote. I can copy the appropriate citation from that page and paste it onto here.
(4) PCC is essentially a "church plant" of BJU, and it is one of several Fundamentalist Christian colleges started by Bob Jones graduates, not to mention the two schools' regional geographical proximity to each other.
I can remove the phrase "...considering both founders of Pensacola Christian College graduated from BJU" and it should hopefully alleviate this issue.
(5) I really do not want to remove this as the evidence is there if you know about the history of the Sunshine State Conference or at least about NCAA Division II sports in Florida. If you go to the website pcceagles.com, and look at previous seasons, you'll notice that you almost never see the SSC schools, and that they have never against Barry, Eckerd, Florida Southern, Lynn, Nova Southeastern, Rollins, or Tampa in any sport, nor have they ever played former SSC teams North Florida or St. Thomas-FL (they did play former member UCF in wrestling, but this was long after UCF moved up to Division I). The likely reason for this is because Pensacola Christian College was unaccredited until 2013, when they were approved for national accreditation. I think that this information should stay up, at least for now.
Thank you for your feedback! I plan on making the changes mentioned above. Wjenkins96 (talk) 04:23, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
@Wjenkins96 Good call on 1-4. I don't think it should say there was an Alabama Christian rivalry unless you found sources to say there was. On point 5, you're basically admitting that this is your original conclusion based on your research... and that doesn't have a place on Wikipedia, so I'm quite certain you should remove the assertion. (The article doesn't lose anything by dropping it.) If you drop that sentence and address the other issues as you propose I would have no problem with removing the maintenance tag. Thanks for asking! Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Done! I could write an addendum on the Google Sheets document I have listed under the External Links section listing off the few instances of PCC playing teams that are currently in the Sunshine State Conference. Technically the MSOC game vs. Saint Leo in 2019 was the only time a PCC team played an SSC opponent while the opponent was in that conference. I realized not too long ago that PCC Wrestling's former head coach, Jim Hazewinkel, attended St. Cloud State (class of 1967) and would've wrestled inside Halenbeck Hall, another Wikipedia article I created. This was by sheer coincidence, I swear!
Thanks for your help! Wjenkins96 (talk) 05:41, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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Virginia Galle

I wanted to understand more on the notability warning you put on the page. She was a elected politician of a major US city that did earn tens of thousands of votes, and that seemed notable to me. I understand that there were limited sources, but it seemed a bit much to put the warning up. Although I did rely on the Obituaries a good amount, the majority of those fact were backed up by a second independent source. I did add more independent sources and notable things after your review.

I removed the warning and marked it as a start-class, which seemed more appropriate. Other articles that I have written of politicians that had limited sources were assessed that way, so I did the same.

Thanks, Bpuddin (talk) 03:21, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Happy to explain, @Bpuddin. The obituaries you used are not independent, reliable sources -- they are the kind of obituary provided by family members, not independently reported by a newspaper's staff. Please see WP:NOBITS for more details. The other sources you included mention Galle but they do not provide WP:SIGCOV of her as required under WP:GNG. You also use several WP:PRIMARYSOURCES (government documents, etc) that do not contribute to notability. Thus, there is no evidence in your article that she meets the required notability standard. (Under WP:NPOL, local elected officials are not considered automatically notable and must pass the general notability guideline.) I'm not going to edit-war with you over the maintenance tag. But I'll check back in a week, and if sources showing she meets WP:GNG have not been added, I'll do my own WP:BEFORE search, and if I don't find anything that qualifies, I will nominate the article for deletion. Good luck! Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Secondary sources have been added, and under guidelines that you provided, notability has been established. So I don't think a deletion is (or has been) necessary. Bpuddin (talk) 08:33, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Christ Chapel (Hillsdale College)

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Nomination of CiberCuba for deletion

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voorts (talk/contributions) 22:19, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand why Dale Wood was deleted or who deleted it.

The song "Dreaming of My Girl in Indiana" was a song that had extensive press coverage when it was released. It has extensive coverage on a search engine for having been a hit song. I had written that I will keep working on it. I was going to cite the references for the newspaper coverage, as opposed to the earlier newspaper search results for the song. Starlighsky (talk) 02:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Starlighsky It was deleted by @Liz in her capacity as the administrator closing a discussion where insufficient sources have been presented. I nominated it for deletion because the subject did not have significant coverage in secondary sources as required by WP:GNG, and he did not meet any of the criteria of WP:NMUSIC. Liz's advice in her closing statement was pretty good: if you find additional sources to support his nomination, write the article in draft form and submit it to WP:AFC. I think the best bet would be to first write an article about the "Indiana Girl" song, using secondary sources and demonstrating that it clears WP:NMUSIC, and then writing one about Hansen. (Also, the title of the deleted article was super-confusing. It seems like Hansen wrote under his own name and a pseudonym; a future draft should be titled "Bill Hansen (songwriter)" or something similar and include a reference to his pseudonym in the text, not the title.) Good luck! Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:47, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your insight. I completely agree with the idea of the song, which I will try to write about.
I had hope for the article to be saved from deletion. The deletion is a bit discouraging.
I will work on the song article, though. Starlighsky (talk) 21:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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