User talk:Hz.tiang/Archive 1

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Please help me

Hello, everyone! I am Hz.tiang. I have found out that somehow when I access Wikipedia, (on my new computer I just got recently) There was a new message for me! (Sorry, I am not so familiar with Wikipedia's User Talks even I have accessed Wikipedia for a few years without an account) Of course, I clicked it and it said: <Please look at it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:220.255.1.43>

So, someone has been vandalizing on 220.255.1.43. In the end, I was blocked, and I did not edit anything (except for 1) recently. I know that the admins are trying to stop the vandalism. So, my question is how to stop me from being blocked and recognized as User:220.255.1.43?

Yours Sincerely Hz.tiang (talk) 06:40, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

This won't be a problem. IP addresses are often re-assigned from one computer to another, and all the Wikipedia volunteers who deal with vandalism blocks know about this. They will know that bad edits made in June or August are probably nothing to do with you. Just press on and edit normally. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank You Hz.tiang (talk) 06:19, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Another help please?

How can I place this:

tyop
typoThis user is a member of the
Wikipedia Typo Team.

at the right instead? And how can I create a userbox? Hz.tiang (talk) 07:54, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Try:

{{boxtop}} {{User typo team}} {{boxbottom}}

..other than that, not sure and Wikipedia:Userboxes/Design and construct CTJF83 12:44, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me do not undo my changes. This is supposed to be a user friendly environment. Please stop! I am not joking! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.119.205 (talk) 13:55, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

The SG flag on your user page

Wow, it's obvious that you copied everything about that animated flag on your user page from my user page. Just FYI, if you want to reposition it, you can adjust the number on "icon_nr" and "extra_offset". Then, click "show preview" to see that you are satisfied with your changes before saving it. Happy editing! Arctic Kangaroo 03:27, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

o_O Is copying fine with you? I can't make one because of the short time I have on the net.

Never mind, it's fine. Just remarking and giving you some info about it. Also, you can change the message if you want, by changing the part after "description=".  :) Arctic Kangaroo 03:34, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

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Arctic Kangaroo 03:35, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Twinkle

You can use Twinkle to warn vandals too. Just go to the bar at the top, mouse over "TW" and click "Warn". From warn, select the level (1,2,3,4,only,single).

Just a guide:
1: Assume good faith
2: No faith assumption
3: Assume bad faith, please stop.
4: Assume bad faith, stop or you will be blocked.
Only (im): Suitable for long term vandalism etc.

Then, choose the type of warning to give. Read WP:VAND for more info on vandalism.

You can also report users at WP:AIV (for vandalism) or WP:UAA (for inapproriate usernames) by clicking "ARV".

Welcome users using "Wel".

Request speedy deletion of pages using "CSD".

Also, you can request protection of pages using "RPP". Read WP:PP for more info.

Have fun exploring Twinkle yourself. Learn from other editors' advice and your own mistakes. I believe you have the potential to be an awesome Wikipedian. Practice makes perfect! Arctic Kangaroo 09:39, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realise the TW at the bar. Thanks for the help! Hz.tiang (talk) 09:42, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Adding on, when you want to revert an edit(s), there are 3 options available. They are "Rollback [AGF]", "Rollback" and "Rollback [Vandal]". The 1st option is for reverting good faith edits, 2nd option for general rollback (you decide yourself how you want to define it), 3rd option to revert vandalism. Cheers! Arctic Kangaroo 09:45, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Erm, another question, how do you find vandalism? Do you use patrol the recent changes page or use some other code? Hz.tiang (talk) 09:59, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

When warning vandals, you don't have to start with level 1. Start at a level you feel appropriate on a case-by-case basis. Even if another user gives a level 1 warning, then you revert another vandalism edit by that user, you can choose to use level 2 or go direct to level 3 (since it's a bad faith edit).

Before I answer your question, how have you been looking for vandalism to revert?

Arctic Kangaroo 10:05, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

You can also use Twinkle to issue talkbacks. Click "TB". Arctic Kangaroo 10:07, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I follow the old school method by Wikipedia: Looking at the Recent Changes page and checking the more suspicious changes (Low and high number of bytes changed) made by anonymous users. How about yours? Hz.tiang (talk) 10:13, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I also patrol Recent Changes to look for vandalism. When patrolling recent changes, look out for tags such as "possible vandalism" or "possible BLP violation or vandalism" etc. As mentioned by you, also look out for high bytes removed/added. Low/mid bytes must be patrolled as well. When suspicious, click "diff" to look at the diff of the edit directly. Alternatively, you may want to keep a watchlist of pages with high level of vandalism or pages of things you are obsessed/interested in, or familiar with the topic. This helps you keep track of edits to those pages. To add a page to your watchlist, just click the star beside the Twinkle menu at the top of a page. Arctic Kangaroo 10:19, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Tags? I don't see any "possible vandalism" tags leh Hz.tiang (talk) 10:22, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

(no talkback needed) They don't appear all the time. Only appear when the system suspects what it is written in the tag. Most of the time, have to use our own suspicion. Arctic Kangaroo 10:25, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Don't WP:BITE the newbies!

New contributors often put in a word or two and then press "Save page" to see how it looks. The right tag for that is WP:CSD#A3 no content or maybe WP:CSD#A1 no context, but those tags should not be applied for at least 10 minutes, in case more is added. It is unwelcoming and discouraging for a new contributor if a speedy tag pops up almost immediately - see {{uw-hasty}}.

What you should certainly not do, as you did to User:SarahMckinley, is post a PROD notice saying "Total Gibberish, Vandalism". Her article at that point contained three words: "Henry Lowood Machinima" and her user page said that she was a student planning to write about Lowood and "his ideas behind Machinima". If you had any suspicion that that might be a hoax, there is an article Machinima which mentions him.

I have apologised to McKinley, and taken the unusual step of removing your "Gibberish, vandalism" notice from her talk page. Wikipedia has a bad name for being unwelcoming to newcomers; please be more careful not to add to that. JohnCD (talk) 12:12, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to second that; I've dealt with a number of your CSD tags today and you seem to be taking a fairly scattergun approach to tagging (usually three tags on every article - in most cases at least two of them are incorrect). Whilst you're certainly good at spotting articles that need to be deleted, you need to refresh your knowledge of which CSD tags apply to which situations. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:53, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you both for your messages, I will keep these in mind when editing to prevent such issues from happening again. Hz.tiang (talk) 11:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Shuqun Primary School Logo.jpg

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Shuqun Primary School Logo.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Hz.tiang (talk) 12:45, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For your instant vandalism reverts, I award you this Anti-Vandalism Barnstar. Keep up the good work! Arctic Kangaroo 09:34, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the barnstar. Greatly appreciated. :D Cheers Hz.tiang (talk) 10:40, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Want to attend CVUA course?

Hi Hz.tiang, just want to ask if you want to receive some training on fighting vandalism on Wikipedia? If you want, just reply me on my talk page and I will set up your academy page when I am free. :) Cheers, Arctic Kangaroo 10:20, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Typo

Hi, could you identify the typos I introduced on the Map projection page? I can't find them. Thanks184.186.8.148 (talk) 01:24, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Map_projection&diff=prev&oldid=542945950

Error (Line 98 which does not make sense) The surface of the earth is taken as a sphere

It is the earth that is taken a sphere. Hz. tiang 01:27, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Ah, no, you are incorrect. The surface of the Earth is indeed approximated as a sphere. It is technically an oblate spheroid, but we take it as a sphere for representation and mapping purposes.184.186.8.148 (talk) 01:39, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

How can a plane (surface which is 2D) be approximated as a solid (sphere which is 3D)? Hz. tiang 01:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

It can't be. A sphere is 2D. A projection goes from a sphere (curved 2D) to a plane (flat 2D. Cf., e.g., http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Sphere.html): "Regardless of the choice of convention for indexing the number of dimensions of a sphere, the term "sphere" refers to the surface only, so the usual sphere is a two-dimensional surface."

Whatever. I just don't want to start an warring edit. Hz. tiang 04:05, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Okay, in that case could you revert it to my text, please? Thank you.184.186.8.148 (talk) 04:08, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

There you go! Cheers! Hz. tiang 04:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

CVU Academy Notification

	CVU Academy Notification
	Hello Hz.tiang! Your Counter Vandalism Unit Academy page is now ready! Click here to quickly access your Counter Vandalism Unit Academy page. Good luck and enjoy learning about countering vandalism! :) Arctic Kangaroo 14:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

CVUA page note

Hi Hz.tiang, please remember to sign four tildes after every answer for easy tracking. Thanks a lot and good luck with your CVUA. Arctic Kangaroo 08:21, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Urm, how do you change links into something like this: [1]? Hz. tiang 08:23, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

All your questions so far, I have moved them to Q&A section. In future, any questions relating to the particular topic being taught in that lesson, please ask in the Questions section before the test. This is to clarify your doubts to make sure you are 100% ready for the test. Any additional questions please ask at Q&A section. Cheers, Arctic Kangaroo 08:36, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Hello Hz.tiang, I will be celebrating my birthday on 19 March. So, I would like to give you a treat. If you decide to "eat" the cookie, please reply by placing {{subst:munch}} on my talk page. I hope this cookie has made your day better. Cheers! Arctic Kangaroo 15:39, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

CVUA:Warning & reporting

Hi hz.tiang, I have released the assignments. I see you are online and perhaps, you may want to do it as I will be online from now till 12am+ or even 1am or 1am+ (if I'm lucky). Arctic Kangaroo 13:50, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry AK, I have an excursion tomorrow, so I really need to sleep. I think i will be doing the task this weekend, as my schedule is cramped these weedays. (What kind of school holiday!) Hz. tiang 14:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

No need to apologise lah, no deadline what? Arctic Kangaroo 14:29, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

LOL! Cause maybe you wanted to mark it that night. Haha. Hz. tiang 22:34, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Translating

Hi Hz.tiang: I know you meant well, and you did go back and refine it, but please do not use Google Translate to replace foreign text in an article, as you did at Theta museet. It says in the foreign-language template following the link to the Google translation: "However, please do not add an automated translation to the article, since these are generally of very poor quality." This page had already been added to WP:Pages needing translation into English as prescribed in the template, and now I or someone else will have to replace your translation with a correct one. For example, it is not "There is a museum in one room" but rather "It is a museum in one room, a room that was used ...." If you can't read the original, please leave it for someone who can; the errors introduced are sometimes quite substantial (omission of words including "not", translation of names of people and places as if they are ordinary words ....) Yngvadottir (talk) 14:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I saw a user did that and decided to translate using Google Translate, but I didn't know that it was so inaccurate. Thanks for the message! Hz. tiang 01:18, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Haha, go to the Malay Wiki, click a random article/userpage/user talk page, and translate from Malay to English. You will see how inaccurate it can be. But, that's how I read the Malay Wiki when I contribute there. Arctic Kangaroo 15:52, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Woah, I can't understand the version translated by Google. My mother will do it better. Hz. tiang 01:53, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Building a template

Can anyone teach me how to make a template? I would like to make one for my user page. Thanks. Hz. tiang 05:43, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

If it is just for your user page, I am not sure a template is what you want: templates are used for stuff which is going to be displayed on many pages. See Help:Templates for more about them and how to make them. Generally, if you want to know about something on Wikipedia, say (to make up an example) OOGLEs, it is worth typing "WP:OOGLE" or "Help:OOGLE" into the search box and seeing what comes up. For instance, if you want to know about tables, Help:Table is the place to look. JohnCD (talk) 10:34, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Hz. tiang 12:33, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Message added 09:47, 26 March 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Arctic Kangaroo 09:47, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Your userpage

Hey Hz, I changed your "user page vandalised" to 4 times, since 4 edits there have been vandalism edits. Also, you may want to request indefinite semi-protection for your userpage at WP:RPP. Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo 03:24, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Editing time

Hey Hz, why you wake up so early to edit? [1] Arctic Kangaroo 04:25, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I just came back from M'sia and couldn't sleep, so I'm editing for a while. Hz. tiang 04:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Slept too much on the bus back? LOL. Arctic Kangaroo 04:31, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Yep. Hz. tiang 04:32, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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Suggest n suggest

Hey Hz, I suggest you place the template for SuggestBot at the top of the page. Also, please specify how often you want suggestions. Arctic Kangaroo 08:25, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

K. Thanks! Hz. tiang 08:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Blocked

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Arctic Kangaroo 14:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Haha! Happy April Fools! I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if I was blocked! BTW, revision edits shows it was made by you! Gotcha! :PHz. tiang 08:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Reminder

Hey Hz, you still have a task and recorrections to complete for your CVUA before we can go on to the next lesson. Not rushing you, but just in case you don't know or forgot. Arctic Kangaroo 14:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

I can't seem to find multiple vandalism for AIV even after 2 hours... Perhaps my tolerance level is not that high? Hz. tiang 07:03, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

... Arctic Kangaroo 07:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I only report after the fourth persistent vandalism... Is that number too low? Hz. tiang 07:08, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

(No talkback needed) You mean after 4 warnings? :) Arctic Kangaroo 07:13, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Yep. Hz. tiang 07:14, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

But I don't understand leh...if the vandal is persistent then he will also bochap when it comes to the last warning. I usually don't like to give the full set of warnings, but most vandals stop at the 4th warning (even if you have reported them because of the timings), only the more persistent ones continue like xiao. Arctic Kangaroo 07:17, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Then I guess I'm unlucky 'cause all users I caught stopped after the vandalism-4 warning... Hz. tiang 07:24, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Arctic Kangaroo 07:55, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Reverting Edit On 'Rave' Page

The section I removed was completely irrelevant, unreferenced and it looked quite obviously like it was done by someone who was a fan of MDMA and Raves. Lol. - Pierce

Ok. I have restored your revision. Hz. tiang 08:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, have a good day! :D - Pierce

Die Feuerzangenbowle

Hello, sorry if my English isn't perfect, I'm from Germany (the main thing is that you understand me). About Die Feuerzangenbowle - i don't know why you removed my edit at Die Feuerzangenbowle (1944 film). I just wrote four actors to the cast. Maybe the names of the roles sounded rather strange. I'll tell you about the four roles and I will probably find the right words. I don't know if you ever saw this beautiful film. At the beginning of the film (a classic in Germany, still reguarly shown as the only film of this time!) Rühmann meets four older mans and they tell him over ten minutes or so from their school time and get drunken. Rühmanns Role had a private school teacher, so that he want to do this things, and he begin to dream ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.96.27.90 (talk) 22:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I see the article has your edits restored already. So problem solved. Hz. tiang 02:44, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Reviewer granted

Hi Hz.tiang, I just wanted to let you know that I have granted the reviewer userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges. A full list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on will be at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, please contact me and I will remove it for you at any time.

See also:

• Wikipedia:Reviewing, the guideline on reviewing
• Wikipedia:Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
• Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.

Feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Happy editing! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 15:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

---

Hey Hz, congrats on becoming a Reviewer. Enjoy your new right. When you are ready to apply for Rollback, I will inform you. Cheers.
Arctic Kangaroo 15:58, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Hz. tiang 02:47, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey Hz, you know where to find the list of articles with pending revisions right? At Special:Pending Changes. You can't watchlist the page though. Cheers and good luck. Arctic Kangaroo 03:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Erm, shouldn't it be Special:PendingChanges? Hz. tiang 03:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh yeah hor. Because usually when I type it in the "Search" box, I just type "special:pe" and then click "Special:PendingChanges" from the dropdown list. Anyway, good that you know. Arctic Kangaroo 03:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Acetobacter merge

Hi, I saw that you merged Acetobacter into Acetic acid bacteria. There was no discussion on the talk page, so I was unsure why. I think it ought to have its own page as Acetobacter is a specific genus and thus a subset of all kinds of acetic acid bacteria. I created a section on the talk page if you'd like to discuss that. Yangosplat222 (talk) 18:39, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Wanna be wikifriends?

Hey Hz.tiang, you wanna be my wikifriend? Cheers. Arctic Kangaroo 05:35, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Heheh, ya calling Hz.tiang bonkers? :P ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 05:40, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed It was a copy-and-paste error. Arctic Kangaroo 05:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Of course! What do I do? Hz. tiang 12:56, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Your CVUA

Hi Hz.tiang, you ready to continue your CVUA? There's a table for you to complete. ;)
PS- Your mid-year exam results OK?
Arctic Kangaroo (✉ • ✎) 07:45, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

The bloated Harold Bloom article

Hi,

I've put some remarks on the talk page about the Harold Bloom article edits.

174.49.172.92 (talk) 14:21, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Hz. tiang 14:25, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

"Impala V12"

You reverted the Impala V12 article, even tho' I did state that this car has never actually existed.

If you Google "Chevrolet Impala V12", you will only find 2 things: One is a modified car built by a guy from Sweden - a 60's Impala, with the BMW 850CSi engine and interior. The second thing you find is divided into two: A user from torquestats.com and fastestlaps.com, trying to prove a point, that isn't there to be proven. All of these "info's and stats" are 2 weeks old. He claims that a V12 Impala was built by GM, the engine being from a McLaren F1 - this engine is the BMW S70/2. BMW and McLaren had a contract about this engine, which stated that it can be used ONLY in the McLaren F1, when it comes to road cars. BMW was allowed to use the engine in their LeMans race car (which goes without saying, isn't a road legal car).

GM would have never had the rights to use the engine in their vehicles.

Also, if you DID Google "Impala V12", you will find a Yahoo! question: "Is the Impala V12 real?" - you will find out that this is the very same person that uses the fastestlaps.com and torquestats.com websites. And again, he is trying to make a point that isn't there, but this time, with faked "letters" and "e-mail's" from General Motors.

And when it comes to Wikipedia, he doesn't provide ANY source for his claims nor for the things he writes: Why is it, that the world has NEVER heard of the BMW V12 powered Chevrolet Impala before, but this one single guy does know about it? How come GM doesn't really acknowledge it? Why isn't there ANY INFORMATION about this car on the internet, which is bigger than our own world? Why hasn't a single magazine written about this car? Why hasn't the magazine "Road & Track" ever written anything about this car, when the user claims that they tested it? Why doesn't this magazine acknowledge it? And most of all, when you contact that magazine's staff, why do they say "We have never even heard about this kind of a test"..?

Just because one guy posts about a fake car on two websites, doesn't make it a fact and real.

THIS CAR ISN'T REAL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.157.234.26 (talk) 08:05, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

hi i apologize 4 the "vandalism " n stuff part

do u think u can come with some decent kinda feedback 4 lets say this post of mine which link follows:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bubble_sort#a_possible_useful_1_-.3E_k.2C_k_practically_any_value_1..n_data_extrapolation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.118.212.93 (talk) 12:54, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

i like ur animation on this page: very inspiring:thnx Florin 93.118.212.93 (talk) 12:00, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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