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arosebyanyother

"Firstly, you can't - note that the sign says "do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself". Secondly, read the template much?" Your language is unnecessarily sarcastic. I did read the template and addressed those issues in my talk page. If you don't approve the language in my page, you're more than welcome to re-write the offending language. It would be helpful if you pointed out what exactly you feel does not meet wikipedia standards. Thank you. --arosebyanyother 02:55, 14 September 2009 (UTC) --arosebyanyother 02:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by A RoseByAnyOther (talk • contribs)

Anne Godwin

Hi. Just wanted to say thanks for your help improving the Anne Godwin page. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 10:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Godwin is OK for now. There was no paucity of info. But I'd appreciate any info. you could get on Maud Burnett that isn't already on her page. I couldn't come up with too much on her. Thanks. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 10:46, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again. I have never submitted a DYK, but whatever you think is appropriate. I'll start looking it up (WP:DYK, I guess). Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 11:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Anne Wexler. I was not being disingenuous or dishonest when I told you I had never done a DYK. As far as the Wexler DYK goes, all I know is that I had made an update following her death before the article was DYKed and I was included in the notification process. I never submitted or nominated the Wexler article, and was a little surprised at being notified at all. Yours, Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 12:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Joey Musial

Hi, Ironholds, I just wanted to say sorry for deleting your talk page. I had a really bad day and was in a really bad mood. It won't happen again, Okay? On the 7th day, God made trekkies then, on the 8th day, he rested. (talk) 17:10, 5 September 2009 (UTC) P.S. Is my signiture okay now?

Okay, it won't. In apology, I'm giving you the apology barnstar, which I made up, and a cookie!!! sorry again, Joey Musial On the 7th day, God made trekkies then, on the 8th day, he rested. (talk) 20:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

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Crazyjikn

Fair enough. Do you think it would have been better if I just CSD all of his articles and just ignored him? He would get frustrated (as I assume he thinks he is helping Wikipedia) and then would get angry and not want to contribute. The major reason I actually wrote him a message was due to him creating a number of articles (and not just one or two) and my hope was that he would stop and perhaps take a quick glance to those pages. I meant no harm.Calaka (talk) 14:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

OK I am sorry. I did not intend my message to be rude and I still have trouble seeing it as such (I will remove it and leave it up to someone else to write out a little note for him if they wish) and instead of telling him to stop creating articles and read, I will post the welcome message up and leave it up to him to decide whether he wants to read it or not. Furthermore if he should not read the links provided by the welcome message, then me even posting a welcome message seems a bit redundant (with those links present that is).

Anyway point being if my NON-bot messages appear rude (when I honest to god meant well) I will refrain from doing so in the future. I guess many of the newbies will think the bot welcome message will be something I wrote out anyway so it will do. I am again sorry. Cheers.Calaka (talk) 15:01, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Well I am sure you are aware that tone is completely random when there are no physical cues (aka on the internet and you surely heard the study that a large proportion of what is written on email has its tone misinterpreted) like smiley faces and what not, so again I meant well and did in no way meant to appear like a bully.

Re:Bds69. Oh ok. So when he calls me a douche it doesn't matter, I shouldn't take it personal? Just because I have been here long enough. Or maybe because you know I won't be leaving when someone says something mean to me over the internet? Would your have thought differently if I was to get offended and simply leave? Can I wait 6 months and if he is still around get to call him a douche because he is not a newbie anymore? Frankly, I care very little about people that decide to insult me on the net, and I am not going to prance around all nice to them and take it (and in the end, isn’t he putting references on Wikipedia... which was the point of the discussion? Would he have been adding them if I didn't talk to him?). But fine. You win. I am not going to argue with you since you are right after all.

Re: what to do with Wikipedia. Well no matter what you said (I am not offended in the end even though it might appear that way hehe) I still want to help Wikipedia. But I will refrain from making any written negative comments (speedy and bot written warnings are still OK hey!). I will make bot replies and welcome messages and only bother to write a personal message only to new users that are doing a good job. I will leave all the other newbies that need help up to the polite individuals here (which thankfully is the majority right?).

Happy editing.Calaka (talk) 03:00, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Well done

... on your TFA :) Not often you get one of them is it?  GARDEN  15:21, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

First one :). Got it promoted months back, but I haven't had a chance to stick it on the main page until now. Ironholds (talk) 15:50, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Imhotep

Imhotep is the title character of at least three separate well-known films, and one of the most iconic characters of the horror genre. Surely that counts as notable by Wikipedia standards?

You might wait at least a few minutes to see what a fellow editor is doing before you attempt to erase it. Nareek (talk) 16:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Imhotep certainly meets formal Wikipedia criteria for notability. There is an extensive literature on 1930s horror cinema, which discusses the character of Imhotep at length. And, no, I don't have this literature in my living room.

Do a "What links here" for Imhotep (film). Those are links that formerly went to Imhotep, a page that doesn't mention the film character, and so were wrongly directed. If you make Imhotep (film) a redirect to The Mummy (1932 film), then the references to the character that relate primarily to the 1999 film will be misplaced--and the same thing will happen if you make it a redirect to the 1999 film. It's a character that is repeatedly referred to in Wikipedia articles, and it appears in multiple notable works--that's why it would be helpful for it to have its own article. Nareek (talk) 16:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

We should all try to be pleasant when dealing with our fellow editors; if you think about for a moment, you might see why remarks like "again, missing the point" are not helpful.

Especially when I did address exactly that point: Imhotep (film) does meet the formal Wikipedia criteria for notability. The character has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Do a Google Books search for "Imhotep horror," and you'll find numerous works where the character is addressed. He's one of the key icons of the horror film, along with Frankenstein's monster and Count Dracula--both of whom have their own articles independent of the fictional works they first appeared in. As does Kharis, a lesser-known embodiment of the Mummy archetype. Nareek (talk) 16:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Norman Birkett, 1st Baron Birkett

There appears to be an error in both this article itself and in the main-page summary of it today. See my comments on the article's talk page and in the error reports for the main page. Neutron (talk) 19:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Senna (Soul Reaper)‎

He created it by copy/pasting the first line of Bleach: Memories of Nobody. After it was tagged then redirected, he recreated it at Senna (Bleach) with more copy/pasting from the film article. He also made Blanks (Bleach) and is ignoring the notes on his talk page. How many times will he be allowed to recreate it? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:37, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Tallulah Black

I've added a number of other sources (which I was in the middle searching for when you essentially deleted the article BTW) to this stub. I hope this satisfies you. :) Stephen Day (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I've posted my views on this matter in the article's AfD log. Its all there for you to read, but I will say that even though I do respect you in this, I strongly disagree with you as well. :) Stephen Day (talk) 21:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Javier_(TV_Series) and List of Javier (TV series) episodes.

Hoax? I can't find anything on Google.Calaka (talk) 13:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

• *Thumbs up.*Calaka (talk) 13:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

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Removed speedy deletion tag: Jon Willis

Hi Ironholds! Firstly, thanks for helping out in CSD areas. I just wanted to inform you that I removed the speedy deletion tag you placed on Jon Willis- because: Winning the British nationals twice would be a claim to notability. Also, this person has an article in the independent. Possible hoax.. I'm currently looking around for sources. But not a suitable A7. If you have any questions or other message, please contact me. Thanks Kingpin¹³ (talk) 15:22, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Definitely notable, IMO. See this BBC article. I'll give the article a clean-up. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 15:27, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Gipsy entertainment music

Hi! I saw that you've redirected the page Gipsy entertainment music to Romani music. I think that "Gipsy entertainment music" should be deleted altogether as it has no base and its just useless. But I'm not familiar with the procedures. can you take care of that? Thanks! Kenshin (talk) 09:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Hugo Stiglitz

I think Hugo Stiglitz (character) does not fail these guidlines as the character is becoming an internet meme in his own right already. WelcomeAtlas (talk) 16:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0114457/, http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38147, I get a kick out of this one in particular: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090908001410AA8WXPv. It appears to be covered by lots of websites and Hugo Stiglitz is, again, becoming an internet meme so it's hard to simply exclude blogs and forums. WelcomeAtlas (talk) 16:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Leave it up for a day and I'll find some sources, if I can't, feel free to redirect. WelcomeAtlas (talk) 16:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

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Ikea Heights was featured in the LA Times.

Does this make it notable?----occono (talk) 18:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

• Ikea Heights, you made it into a redirect to Channel 101----occono (talk) 23:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

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Isaac Blackford

Terribly sorry! I actually just totally forgot about it.. I will work to improve it and relist it in the future for a new review. Thanks for your time! :) —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 22:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

A7 notice

Hi there,

I would like some clarification on what the actual requirements of A7 are. They seem to be very vague. A lot of pages seem to apply to this rule. [Peoples Archive], [Cheek by Jowl], etc. How do they differ? Reading them, they do not seem to cite why they should be in wikipedia.

Theatre Delicatessen have put on the first showing of a couple of plays in London, along with the only revival of David Hare's Fanshen. In theatre, that's a big deal.

Some more information so I can improve the article would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Paul. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keteracel (talk • contribs) 16:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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Rumford Medal

The Rumford Prize FLC is in currently in its second reiitering. As a member of Wikiproject Awards I was wondering if you would please comment/vote on it. Votes are crititically needed as I really wanna squeeze this through before inactivity kills it. Thank you in advance for responding and have a nice day, ResMar 22:13, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Sticky bomb

Sticky_bomb#Design. Best blockquote ever. :) Protonk (talk) 22:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Open Studio (IDE)

hello IronHolds, about my article...I don't see why it wouldn't be a good article? Its a summer project that will continue on after that. It was started back in april. Please let me know what i need to add to make it better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonwolf14 (talk • contribs) 00:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC) OK, thank you....You may delete it...Moonwolf14 (talk) 00:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Woops

Yes, this was a little WOOPS!!. Thanks for fixing me up! Cheers!--CobraGeek ^{The Geek} 02:41, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Attorney General

Hmm, seems like it could pass GA, it's certainly detailed enough, although you might get concerns over how comprehensive it is due to the lack of length. Skinny87 (talk) 08:43, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

RFA A new name 2008

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AFD

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RE: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phoenix fire apparatus

Would you considering userfying the article which you put up for deletion? The will delete it from main space completely and move it to a subpage of the creators.

The editor is a new editor, (this is his very first edit) userfying will give the new user a chance to rework this article and maybe wikipedia will get a long term dedicated editor

Please let me know as soon as possible, because as soon as someone else comments on the AfD, they must agree also before I can userfy the article. Thanks for your time.Ikip (talk) 02:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Moved from user: ikip

I'm not an admin, so the whole "deleting" part is going to be a fail. Userfying is for articles which have a chance of being useable if worked upon - this isn't one of those articles. Ironholds (talk) 02:19, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually if anyone moves an article to a user page, and then types {{db-rediruser}} the redirect will be deleted quickly. This article does not appear notable at all. That said, it is the users one and only edit, and so I was hoping to give them a chance. Thanks for your response though. Good luck. Ikip (talk) 02:24, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

RE: Floodwood Mountain Reservation would you consider userfying this article? Again, the editor is a new editor, whose first edits were Floodwood Mountain Reservation. I looked for sources, and there are none, so it should not be on wikipedia.

You could always watch this userfied page, and in a couple of months speedy delete it, or I can, if you wish. The worst that will happen is the new editor leaves, and the article languishes. But maybe in those two months, the editor will continue to edit wikipedia and become a strong and dedicated editor, and realize why the article should not be on wikipedia in the first place. Let me know what you think. I am watching your page. Ikip (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Again, no. Have you read the tag? It's a copyright violation, something by definition not acceptable in any userspace. Ironholds (talk) 02:52, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh shit. No. I did not. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Good point. I agree. Nice catch. Ikip (talk) 03:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Nina Assimakopoulos

I don't agree with your speedy deletion post on the Nina Assimakopoulos page. Performing in Carnegie hall and releasing 3 CDs is a claim to notability, so I'm removing your edit. Thanks --arosebyanyother 02:25, 14 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by A RoseByAnyOther (talk • contribs)

P C Pandey

Hello there. I can't criticize your well-intentioned renaming of an article today. Now, it may appear that I'm rather free with the scythe and the salt, but please see this, and its "project page", and the deletion review, and the AfD, and the other AfD, and etc etc etc. -- Hoary (talk) 11:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

afd comments

Really, now? Really? You're going to criticize the validity of my comments? My guess, somehow, is that if I had voted to delete in those cases you wouldn't have cared. Just to be clear, my comments are perfectly valid and you contacting me to tell me otherwise is petty and inappropriate. Now, quick! Get back to your pathological obsession with deleting other peoples' work! The Wikipedia desperately needs you! (It really doesn't.) --AStanhope (talk) 12:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• Check out this article:[1] - you don't have to read it all. Start at "The first thing I did on Wikipedia (under the username Wageless)..." and read to the end if you are so inclined. Let me know what you think. Thanks. --AStanhope (talk) 14:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• I'm glad you read the article and thanks for providing feedback. I'm assuming that you've looked at my history and contributions here... When you tell me that my "Keep" comments don't meet your own personal standards for the discussion, you're not talking to a child. By disparaging peoples' votes, you erode the legitimacy of the voting process. Furthermore, if I was a new editor, your comments would be very discouraging. You don't want to scare new editors away from this project, do you? When there is an AfD, there is nothing that requires the voter to comment beyond their vote to KEEP or DELETE. If somebody votes to KEEP, yet you don't like their rationale, you still must accept the vote. This goes both ways... I view every DELETE vote as legitimate, even if the rationale behind it is asinine, as many are. --AStanhope (talk) 16:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

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Concerning Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2009_September_14#Alternative_solution_to_Zeno.27s_paradoxes

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Oskar Gröning

Thanks for Talk:Oskar Gröning/GA1. I have addressed the items you brought forward. WilliamH (talk) 14:31, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

And again once more. WilliamH (talk) 18:47, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

And again. WilliamH (talk) 12:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Movereq

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Thanks!

Thanks for your GA review of Moors murders. It was a pleasure working with you. :-) --Malleus Fatuorum 20:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

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...for this fix. Yintaɳ  00:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The Michigan Every Three Weekly

Hello,

The article has been greatly expanded since I first created it and some points have been made on the talk page and in an edit summary about why the every three weekly is notable enough for an article. I hope these changes will allow the article to meet you standards.

Thanks!

Eileene3w (talk)eileene3w

Hi,

I went through the article and removed the blatantly untrue parts (sorry! i think people on staff started editing it), so I hope it looks better now.

As for notoriety concerns, I really don't know how else to convince you. All of the other student publications at UM have wikis, and i don't think they're being challenged.

Thanks,

~~Eileene3w

Talk:James Everett Seaton

Sbaldori is asking what your tags on that article mean and how xe can address the issues further. You might like to explain on the talk page. Uncle G (talk) 15:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

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Lord Denning

I am writing to 'Ironholds' because I gather he/she has an interest in the article on Lord Denning. I have just published three books about Lord Denning which I have added to the further reading section, after advice from David Underdown. I feel that these books will be of interest to anyone who reads the excellent information on the Lord Denning page and would, obviously, like people to have access to my work on Denning's Jurisprudence. Two of my academic colleagues have commented favourably on the books which are based on my doctoral research:

Two fellow academics have commented on the trilogy in the following kind terms:

“Lord Denning was a man of monumental influence over the development of English law, both in its substance and style. In this remarkable trilogy, Dr Stephens has produced a magnificent exposition and analysis of Denning’s contribution to the common law – a corpus of rules now affecting a third of the world. The trilogy is a work of profound historical significance. Through both minute exegesis of Denning’s judgments and grand narrative of their historical setting and significance, Stephens’ work gives an understanding of a judicial phenomenon that shaped important aspects of the twentieth century. The breadth and depth of the studies, and the scholarship from which the writing flows, are extraordinary.” - Professor Gary Slapper if a professor of Law and Director of the Centre for Law at the Open University. With Dr David Kelley, he is the author of The English Legal System, an important text book which is now in its 9th Edition “The Jurisprudence of Lord Denning: A Study in Legal History by Charles Stephens, a set of three complementary books on the philosophy and judgments of Lord Denning is, in my opinion, by far the most thorough and convincing analysis and study of Denning in existence. The trilogy is a scholarly contribution of the very highest quality and the utmost importance in its subject-matter; it is also a wonderful read. It is quite the best book we have on him, I cannot think of any work on Lord Denning that better deserves publication.” - Professor Antony Lentin is a retired Professor of History at the Open University and a Member of Wolfson College Cambridge. He is also the author of The Last Political Law Lord: Lord Sumner 1859-1934 published by Cambridge Scholars Publishing in 2008 and of several judicial biographies in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, including those of Lord Reading and Lord Maugham.

Dr Charles Stephens MA [Oxon], LLB [London], PhD [London] == Thankyou for your helpful comments about Further Reading in relation to Lord Denning.

The information which you asked for is as follows:

• Stephens, Charles (2009). Fiat Justitia: Lord Denning and the Common Law. Cambridge Scholars Publishing. ISBN 1443812447.
• Stephens, Charles (2009). The Last of England: Lord Denning’s Englishry and the Law. Cambridge Scholars Publishing. ISBN 1443812455.
• Stephens, Charles (2009). Freedom under the Law: Lord Denning as Master of the Rolls 1962-1982. Cambridge Scholars Publishing. ISBN 1443812463.

That is how I formatted it when I made the entry - as I have said I am new to this but am impressed by the vigilance demonstrated.

10:23, 19 September 2009 (UTC)Charles Stephens

Kizuna bridge

The Kompong Cham page talks about the Kizuna bridge and gives some details about it. To my point of view 2 pages are necessary

one for the town

one for the bridge

This what I was doing but I'm not familiar with references and didn't complete it off. Obviously the Kampong Cham should only mention that bridge.

--Laurentleap (talk) 19:52, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

A T.I.M.E.

Howdy Ironholds. Please remove the SD template on A T.I.M.E. as contested. If you would like to open the question for AfD that is fine. Please read Talk:A T.I.M.E.#Contested SD. It is an org similar to Resolve or the Puah institute. Thank you, Joe407 (talk) 01:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

AN/I

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Odd_page_move_by_admin_-_support_for_reversion_sought. FYI Manning (talk) 13:03, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: List of Highways in Reeves County, Texas

Thanks for the note! Yes, the list is complete regarding federal and state highways. The list does not list county roads, as Reeves County has an extensive network. I don't think anyone involved with the Texas State Highways WikiProject has the stomach for that task when there is still a backlog of hundreds, perhaps thousands of Farm to Market Roads that still need pages. I've also created highway list pages for Brewster, Culberson, Jeff Davis, Presidio, and Reeves counties in Texas. I've done Farm to Market Road lists for the Texas Trans-Pecos, Rio Grande Valley, and West Texas. Now, I'm working on a rewrite of Texas State Highway 118 to pull it out of stub status.

I'll take you up on your offer. I'd love to have a few featured articles under my belt, and any advice you could provide will be greatly appreciated! Fortguy (talk) 17:45, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Operational Quality of Release

Hi! No, A1 only applies to short articles as well (as does A3). If the article is not very short, even if it fails to provide context, it's not deletable under A1 and should be prodded or taken to AfD instead. Regards, Jafeluv (talk) 17:33, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Umm, it's right there. Quote:

Articles lacking sufficient context to identify the subject of the article. Example: "He is a funny man with a red car. He makes people laugh." This applies only to very short articles. Context is different from content, treated in A3, below.

It's explicitly stated that "This applies only to very short articles." Are we reading the same version? :) Jafeluv (talk) 17:43, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

The Fallen: 2012

I saw you prodded it six months ago. I think it's time to get that initial decision put in place.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 13:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Olga Rutterschmidt

Hello there. I am leaving this message to you because you voted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olga Rutterschmidt. The AfD was closed early because the article had been renamed to Black Widow murders during the discussion, and both Olga Rutterschmidt and its sister article Helen Golay have been merged into it. If you wish, please feel free to nominate this new article for deletion if you feel that the article does not merit a place on Wikipedia. Regards, NW (Talk) 15:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

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BLP AFDs

Since the bot broke and these AFDs stopped getting sorted to their own page, I haven't been doing much with AFDs. I noticed your activity in AFD and now I'm just going to use your watchlist as my BLP AFD reference page. Ahaha. Keep up the good work! XD Lara 17:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Maura Murray

Hi, I don't normally badger people who disagree with me at AfD, but in this case would you mind looking at the sources I've found covering the disappearance of Maura Murray? I'm fairly sure that they demonstrate the notability of this case. I'd tidied up the article after the last AfD, but I neglected to suggest a name change to refocus on the case rather than the individual or to include more sources, apologies. Fences&Windows 00:00, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

As requested!

Here's the link to British airborne operations in North Africa as you asked for. Skinny87 (talk) 15:35, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Canadian Imperial

The reason the name seemed promotional is that CIBC stands for Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce. → ROUX ₪ 16:42, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from Icewine martini

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<ref name=a49/>

User:Ironholds/bonar and Andrew Bonar Law are each displaying a cite error caused by <ref name=a49/>. Could you go back and add the full reference to the main article? Thanks. 75.69.0.58 (talk) 13:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Epic win

That is all. Daniel (talk) 14:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

What is? ++Lar: t/c 22:56, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

He's referring to the Law dispute - see my comment on his talkpage. Ironholds (talk) 22:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Ironholds, thank you for your entirely appropriate and measured response there. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 23:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. you handled this well. SirFozzie (talk) 01:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

The Veils

Finn Andrews is actually the deus ex machina of The Veils, anyhow the current article has been edited by someone else, my last edit was mainly about the chronological history of the band. I will re-edit it the way it should be. The Best Awful

Just uploaded a better picture and corrected little mistakes, where's the problem? The Best Awful

I was talking about the article text, which has been edited by someone elses, my last edit to the text has been mainly deletad. You wrote that the article is about Finn Andrews instead of The Veils and I answered that is not my responsability, just that. My last edits are on the band-box and the picture. What's the point of your question? The Best Awful

Well, sorry. I didn't notice I've edited this line cause I have the whole page saved and I just cut and paste it to bring back the picture I've uploaded earlier. If you like edit again the line you're talking about without touching the band-box and the picture. The Best Awful

Can I ask why such care for that small detail? The Best Awful

You must have some bad feeling against him. I don't know how much you know The Veils but anyone who knows enough them will tell you that The Veils are basically Finn Andrews and other musicians who play live with him. I am preparing a new edit for that article and it will be oriented to The Veils as band more than on Finn Andrews and The Veils. Just be patient. The Best Awful

I agree, you seem to have some personal issue with this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Giantsand (talk • contribs) 11:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Patrick Hastings

Not sure why I should review him when he joined the wrong Inn of Court, but there we go... No problem, no rush. Bencherlite^Talk 21:08, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Flying horses couldn't persuade me to tell you... Bencherlite^Talk 21:32, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Good work - I thought I'd pick a good nominator and subject for my first GA review. I like the idea of improving Inner Temple in due course; I'll see if I can drop in on the GI PR. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 21:44, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Condolences

I saw your comment on Daniel's talk page about the passing in your family. My condolences. It happens to everyone in the end, but it's always sad when it happens to someone you know and care about. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 03:22, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I second that. But I was actually coming by to request that you refactor your ANI statement. I don't think I've ever had any interaction with Undertow whatsover. So unless you have diffs to back up your statement, I'm going to expect an apology for the smear. Thanks! ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

• You stated on ANI that "the undertow was a friend of COM... if this knowledge had been available to the community as a whole than (sic) Law's unblock of CoM would have been treated substantially differently." Now you posted on my talk page saying you got an e-mail that you say was intended for me, explaining that Law was the Undertow. So wouldn't that indicate that I did NOT have any knowledge of who the Undertow was? Again, I request you correct you false smear or provide diffs of the interaction and friendship you claim I had with The Undertow. Keep in mind that lying is a violation of the civility guideline, so if you don't correct the record I may feel obligated to pursue further action against you for making bogus and innacuracte claims. Thanks! ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:23, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

• Okay. Thanks. No hard feelings. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Churchill Honorary Gray's Inn Bencher

• A Visitor's Guide to the Four Inns of Court in Central London, written and published by Richard Ruda, Washington DC, 2008, P. 116: "Both Churchill and Roosevelt became Honorary Benchers of Gray's Inn during World War II"
• This blog gives the date as 1942 but cannot be assumed reliable
• This book provides the interesting snippet that Churchill and Roosevelt first met at Gray's Inn in 1918, when Roosevelt was Assistant Secretary to the Navy.

You may want to absorb some of these bits into the article. Brianboulton (talk) 20:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Bonar Law

On October 5, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bonar Law, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 12:28, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I want to comment on this but there are so many levels at work I'm likely to get in trouble or to be misunderstood if I give into temptation and say anything smart alecy. So I'm just going to congratulate you on the DYK. Congratulations. It looks interesting. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:54, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Drapier's Letters

[2] In case you didn't see, you are needed in terms of how to describe the Privy Council (English or British) and some other things. Just a nudge to remind you that the FAC still exists. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 17:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

By the way, don't forget to go ahead and make appropriate changes. :P Ottava Rima (talk) 18:12, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Aeroflot Flight 3352 - past or present tense

I would usually use past tense in the timetable, but somehow my intuition led me to write in present. Can't explain why. Perhaps because it looked acceptable to me and it is easier to read in present tense (simpler phrasing). That said, I am no authority in English, and if someone rewrites, I wouldn't mind. Materialscientist (talk) 22:20, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Kizuna bridge

The Kizuna bridge is very important for Cambodia.

Today it is the only bridge on the Mekong.

I have tried to create a new page for it and I thought to remove the informations from the Kampong Cham page later (because I didn't know how to deal with references), that was my mistake.

To my point this bridge does need a page of its own with technical informations and a pic. All important bridges in Asia have their own pages ! Why not this one What do you have against it ?

--Laurentleap (talk) 20:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Leigh Hunt

Care to finish the leads? Ottava Rima (talk) 19:57, 10 October 2009 (UTC)