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This week's article for improvement (week 37, 2024)

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Map of the Caroline Islands Archipelago
Hello, SafariScribe. The article for improvement of the week is:

Caroline Islands

Please be bold and help improve it!


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Question from Happydays2024 on Wikipedia:Writing better articles (21:36, 8 September 2024)

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How do I create certain things --Happydays2024 (talk) 21:36, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Happydays2024 and welcome to Wikipedia. Creating things, you mean articles?
Before writing on a topic including another person's biography, please browse very well about the thing and make sure it meets WP:GNG or any specific WP:SNG. Sources are various means of knowing how notable a thing could be, hence they should fall under WP:RS and are usually newspapers, national TV/Radio station news, peer reviewed journals, e.t.c. To have an initial guide to writing on Wikipedia, see our various articles: HELP:YFA. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 03:59, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've studied your rejection and the putative notability of Henderson, looking particularly at the version you rejected as lacking notability.

I am puzzled. Henderson's notability is sufficiently established in that version by this reference. With the notability established I believe that this revision stood a better than 50% chance of surviving am immediate deletion process. Thus acceptance ought to have been the route forward rather than rejection. Had you been, as I presume you to have been, in doubt, then a decline would have been a better route than rejection.

I think this review was an error. You may wish to talk to the creating editor and to discuss your thought processes. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would have rechecked but thank God it has been accepted. Mistakes happen but I should be extremely careful. Cheers! [since yesterday, my technology have been saying, likely: "WP is down" and I couldn't respond because its an issue with the technology here] Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Torch Electronics

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Hello can you provide some more clarity on the reason for denial. I know it mentioned something about high quality sources but also relevance. I think I have a decent amount of diverse sources and the company is very germane to Missouri Politics especially this upcoming election. Thanks! Draft:Torch_Electronics IRT787 (talk) 04:03, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft should meet WP:NCORP before it will get accepted into the article namespace. In its current form, my denial reason was explicit and you should attempt reading them all while clicking the links to help you. Being involved in politics doesn't always make a company notable, and your drats contains WP:PEACOCK terms that sounds like a promotional draft. Incase you want to continue writing here, you may like to read Wikipedia:WORDSTOWATCH. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At the risk of sounding a little rude, did you read the draft? I think the valid criticism would be that's it's actually too negative and certainly not puffery. I think that a major controversy of unregulated gambling machines at nearly every gas station in the state is a major issue and something that the public should be able to find more information about the company here on Wikipedia. Not to mention the political controversy of the attorney general dropping the lawsuit after receiving financial contributions from the company in question.
There are at least three separate major regional news outlets listed in the references and can add more if needed. IRT787 (talk) 22:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You have resubmitted the draft, @IRT787, and I'm sorry for, to you, being a bit rude. However, that's my reason for declining your draft. Better sources, ofcourse, will be good if added, but I am not certain your draft meets WP:NCORP. Good luck! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Ali Zulfikar zahedi declined

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Dear

I would be proud to get help and kind hand if you put into this article to make it live. I am new here then I must need help from you. My first article Ali Zulfikar Zahedi , who is a film director and seen in internet having many activities on his. Thus, I feel a good article could be in Wikipedia. Looking for your kind support that it has been declined by you. Could you please look on to and I might miss reliable source but in internet it has many coverage but as a new I am not sure which source will be appropriate. Looking for your kind hand on this article Burdubai007 (talk) 07:57, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please link the draft here! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:36, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draft:Ali Zulfikar Zahedi Burdubai007 (talk) 16:59, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi SafariScribe, most likely sock puppetry involved here, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kagoz. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:16, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks, @আফতাবুজ্জামান. Your draft should meet WP:NDIRECTOR before it will be accepted into the article mainspace, @Burdubai007. Cite reliable sources that can be used to explicitly verify that he directed all those films as listed in the draft
Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:17, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article marked for deletion

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Hey there SafariScribe -- I'm new to this whole thing and want my work to be as useful as possible. I see you marked my new page for Stephen-Craig Aristei as an article for deletion -- wanted to see what I need to do to have it remain. All the best. Rkg5514 (talk) 13:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, unfortunately, I can't do anything for you but will be neutral with your question. It's always good to research very well about a topic (person) before writing about them. It's mostly good to ask question as WP:GNG may vary from any editor's reading. That been said, your article doesn't meet WP:GNG or specifically,WP:NAUTHOR and WP:NMUSICIAN WP:NCREATIVE. You should note that adding WP:LOTSOFSOURCES may still add no notability. I would want you to pay attention to the consensus -to-meet (WP:AFD), which is ongoing to hear from different opinions. Please do not Wikipedia:BLUDGEON. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:11, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for responding so quickly. As this individual is a music publisher and manager, rather than any kind of creative professional, I am not sure that WP:NAUTHOR applies in this instance. Same for WP:MUSICIAN as this person is not a musician, but rather an associated individual on the business side of the industry... Rkg5514 (talk) 15:34, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will support userfying (turning into a draft) your article to help you learn how Wikipedia works and because I can't determine the SNG to use for a better explanation if not WP:NCREATIVE. As a music publisher, we can say that the article should have worked with musicians and it should depend on the music he has published. I also will value WP:NAUTHOR because part is writing is publishing. However, the most way of representing this is WP:CREATIVE. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speed of progress

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We have had this discussion before. Please slow down still further. You have editors asking you questions about your reviews, questions you appear to have left unanswered. We must be able to justify our reviews. Unwillingness or inability to do so may disqualify us from the review process. Please take note of this thought, catch up on your backlog of unanswered questions, and reduce your speed. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:44, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog of unanswered questions. Really? Ofcourse I always answer and I have always been accountable for my reviews. And I've been thinking about your accountability question. It's either I have sorted it out with the editor or have done so somewhere. Please recheck and tell me if it's also mandatory to answer a request that is off my reviews at AFC. I sometimes help out but not to all. This type of words are strong and possibly because I don't come to AFC help desk; that I will add to my daily task. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What I am looking at is perception. It may be that you have not been online to answer, but even a small number of questions is perceived as too many when they are outstanding. Without naming you, your review(s) have been discussed at WT:AFC in a light that caused me to find the draft spoken of, revert your review, and accept it. I don't want you to be discussed in any light except a golden one, a positive one.
You are, almost always, a good and diligent reviewer. Please keep to the highest standards. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What I do sometimes if a query was answered elsewhere is add a note to the query on my tp stating it was answered elsewhere (i.e. answered at the Teahouse). One, as a note to myself so down the road I know why I did not respond but also so anyone looking at my tp knows the query was addressed.
Also, Safari I highly recommend for the most part not reviewing a draft more than once. Overall, I think additional eyes are helpful either because I may have made an error, another reviewer may hold a different opinion based on their experience (either to accept or provide better advice if it is still a decline) or another reviewer may be knowledgeable about the topic/willing to do work to get it over the line for acceptance. Sometimes even in instances where I know a draft does not and likely cannot meet notability I may leave it for another reviewer because hearing from someone else bolsters the draft does not meet the criteria so the creator (or anyone else) does not think it is only me who holds that opinion. There is a discussion at WT:AFC#Multiple rejections by same reviewer? and while not written into the instructions, it does appear to be standard practice. S0091 (talk) 15:58, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And while I here, are there any particular topics in which you have expertise or enjoy reviewing? If so, if I come across any I can ping you to have a look. There's a few editors I do that with (ex. for food topics I ping valereee, American football Beaniefan11, etc.). S0091 (talk) 16:31, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes Tim will appear formal with his advice and harsh-to-do-good encouragement likewise you, S0091, that whenever you encourage me, I will leave the philosophy booklet I may be reading or any other and smile for a while. Thank you so so much. I enjoy reviewing anything but mostly church, films (actors and actresses) and literature. I won't probably say this one but gossip won't leave me. Do you know you are good for the mop? (please only you should see this and don't tell anybody I said so. 😂) Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:48, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ha! You are funny Safari. :) S0091 (talk) 17:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article: Karin van der Laag

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Good Day safariScribe

As you know the page which was written about me by someone else, was removed and since then I have been invited to re-write it eventhough writing articles about oneself is discouraged. As mentioned, my first page was not written by me, it appeared from another writer, whom I don't know and was then deleted. I searched for my page again and found it to be up and intact but written in Hausa, a language of Chad. How do i go about re-instating the page in English: or will I still have to start form scratch and rewrite my page. I have started a new draft page but have not submitted it for review yet.

Your advice please?

Kind Regards

Karin van der Laag Karinvanderlaag (talk) 11:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Karinvanderlaag (talk page watcher) you may request the undeletion of the original if you feel it is justified. You will need to lodge a WP:Deletion review because it was deleted by consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karin Van Der Laag. The rationale must be a technical one. The steps are defined for you there.
Draft:Karin van der Laag will need to demonstrate that it is substantially different from the deleted article to be accepted.
@SafariScribe there is substantial history on this editor's talk page whch will inform your response. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed I have just had to add to that talk page warnings about breaches of WP:PAID, and WP:Edit war, while giving advice for the to read WP:3RR 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No article on Wikipedia is above deletion but any page, can avoid being deleted if it meets WP:N. @Karinvanderlaag, that you have edited other people's article doesn't mean you too should be justified having one, No!, it doesn't work out that way. Tim has completely advised you and believe me, if you have attained notability, an article will be created for you, it is a matter of little time. Please always know that writing autobiography here isn't always advisable and you should desist from writing one especially about yourself. And if you continue (to do so), then there would be a need for than. Just remain a faithful editor and fully understand how Wikipedia works. Cheers!
P.S. Your draft isn't yet written well for publication and per WP:IMDB, the site isn'tñ reliable. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 13:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the advice. I was just surprised as I did a good edit on it for over two hours and now all the information seems to be gone. I believe I forgot to delete the paid contributor section on my talk page. I thought that this just applied to the other pages and not to Karin van der Laag. Karinvanderlaag (talk) 13:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I do not believe I am justified in having a page. I had a page. Many colleagues with less notability than I do have a page. I am just trying to re-instate the page and make it better than whoever put it up there in the first place. I did 2 hours of edits which are now all gone. I am not sure why? Could you explain this to me? Karinvanderlaag (talk) 13:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Karinvanderlaag Your last saved edit on Draft:Karin van der Laag was at 16:11, 4 July 2024‎, thus I doubt that this is what you refer to. If it is then you failed to click the button to save your work. If I edit for more than 10 minutes I save my work every 10 minutes or more frequently. This is normal practice when editing locally on on your client. It is more important still when editing across thousands of miles on a remote server located heaven knows where.
I'm sorry that your effort was wasted.
Now, you say "I do not believe I am justified in having a page." The deletiioimn discussion where it was deleted did not believe it either. I suggest you stop trying to force your way into Wikipedia. Write about something else, anything else.
Your deletion review has no rationale for any review, and will fail because of that lack. My opinion there will stand even if you provide a rationale. Deletion review only handles technical matters about the close. I suggested you read it all carefully, and it appears that you did not follow it as closely as you needed to do. I predict that this one will close speedily as 'no case to answer'. I also appear to be the only participant in the deletion discussion whom you invited. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good Day
Where will I find articles to edit, basically concerning English grammar issues? I would like to start editing those. I see that there are random articles offered up for edit, but is there a specific way of getting to articles, that just need grammar cleanup?
Thanks Karin Karinvanderlaag (talk) 05:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Karinvanderlaag, you can pick a particular type of grammar cleanup from the rather overwhelming list at WP:TASK. Copy editing specifically is at Category:All articles needing copy edit. I recommend Category:Wikipedia introduction cleanup if you're interested in writing but don't want to do any research. -- asilvering (talk) 05:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, that is very helpful Karinvanderlaag (talk) 11:30, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look

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Hello Safari, if possible anytime you are free you can take a look at this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nisar Safdar Khan Jadoon. I feel the editor there ain’t understanding my point or politicians are now then suitable for just being elected to a post without WP:GNG. This could be use to judge other politicians and make WP:GNG underrated in that category of politician aspect. Gabriel (……?) 10:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gabriel601, per WP:NPOL a member of a legislative office/rank especially at the national level is considered notable. Jadoon was a member of the Provincial Assembly of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, hence meets the criteria. Throwing more light, it's same as saying that, all members of the Nigerian National House of Assembly are notable as well as the Federal House of Reps. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:42, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rejected draft follow-up

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Hi @SafariScribe, I hope you are well. I noticed that you rejected the submission of the improved draft. Link In the new revision I added some new news articles, in-depth book coverage and journals (peer reviewed), but you rejected it for the second time but didn't explain why the new sources are not useful. Could you please explain the reason for rejecting the submission? Regards. 2003:E3:B745:F7A6:256B:90B9:C0AC:90B6 (talk) 16:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In your draft, there are mostly, WP:PRIMARYSOURCES—books and articles written by him—which doesn't show how notable a person can be but are used to verify that the book was written by him. For example, sole book reviews, though should carry the authors name, may standardize recognizing only the impact of the book without the author and then, we will use primary sources to also verify that the author truly wrote the book and most times, the year of publication. We also maintain a high standard for biography of living persons , and all sources should be secondary (newspapers, book reviews, peer reviewed journals and not blogs). Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:35, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @SafariScribe,
Thank you for your reply and guidance.
What you are asking is already covered in the current draft.
As per book reviews, I refer you to the following:
I refer you to the following peer-reviewed articles:
This is also another peer-reviewed article by the subject that I didn't include in the current draft: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29478084/
I trust this addresses the concerns? 2003:E3:B745:F7A6:256B:90B9:C0AC:90B6 (talk) 14:06, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will access the sources above later during the day. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @SafariScribe,
I trust this message finds you well.
As per your submission above, you were supposed to check the sources and reply later the same day.
It is now two days and no response from you.
I think you erred in your judgement in rejecting the article, as I have provided you with sufficient evidence that is present in the rejected draft.
I appreciate a quick response from you so that this matter can be dealt with positively and put to rest.
Thank you very much.
Cheers.
🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦
S0091, Klbrain 2003:E3:B745:F7B1:5952:5A60:86B1:FE2F (talk) 22:10, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Above are sources written by him and believe me, they are not going to pass this draft. I have considered as well as removed the rejection template, you may now keep editing. For your initial word, I am not mandated to do anything for you including replying to consideration. I rejected the draft and gave explicit reason. Do you also know that you haven't edited the draft since the rejection? If you have, I could have also remove but there isn't any problem. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:27, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @SafariScribe,
Thank you for your prompt reply. I appreciate it. There was no need to update the draft after the rejection. I asked why you rejected it, and you gave a reason and I replied to you. You gave a generic rejection. And according to the discussion on your talk page here, other editors have cautioned you to slow down your rejection rate. One of your rejections has been overturned. And also for the record, your editorial behaviour is under scrutiny and is being discussed here on Wikipedia. You have also been advised by other editors that it is good practice not to be involved in a case more than once. I have reviewed the archives of the deletion discussion. You were in favour of deleting the page. It was taken down. The article has been rewritten, updated and with more reliable and secondary sources. You still declined it with a generic response. It was updated and you rejected it with a generic response and when politely asked why, you said why and the answers were given to you. Your editorial behaviour on this draft might suggest that you have an undisclosed bias towards the subject. However, this is pure speculation. I stand corrected. Thank you for removing the rejection tag and reclusing yourself from this draft. Much appreciated. Cheers. PS: And your claim that the above resources were written by me is not true. The evidence is there for all to see. They are secondary sources published on editorial websites over which I have no control. 2003:E3:B745:F7B1:5952:5A60:86B1:FE2F (talk) 23:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @SafariScribe,
A little something and a favour from you as I am new here on Wikipedia.
Can you add a tag to the draft that allows me to re-submit it?
Thanks and much appreciated. 2003:E3:B745:F7B1:5952:5A60:86B1:FE2F (talk) 23:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guild of Copy Editors September Newsletter

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Guild of Copy Editors September Newsletter

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Request on 09:40:48, 11 September 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Sandeep74236

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Sandeep74236 (talk) 09:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sandeep74236, I couldn't see any rationale above. Is there anything I can do for you? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:54, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Billbrod1 (13:12, 11 September 2024)

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I want to write an article about a magazine I read regularly --Billbrod1 (talk) 13:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia, @Billbrod1. Are you sure that the magazine is notable per our general notability guidelines? If so, it may meets a specific guideline, let's say, WP: NWEBSITE. For an easy way to start writing, please read Help:YFA. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Green's "Around the World in 31 Days" GA Editathon – October 2024

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Hello SafariScribe:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!

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Lorenzo De Stefano

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Hi, SafariScribe, how are you? You may have noticed that I've moved this back to draft – it seems to be inadequately sourced, and to my jaded eye has every appearance of WP:UPE. However, I hadn't checked the history carefully enough and had not noticed your acceptance of it, my apologies! Do please go ahead and revert my draftification if you're confident that it should be in mainspace. Thanks, regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLAR article

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Hello @SafariScribe, Hi, I'm a paid contributor. I wrote an article by businessman Daniel Vorcaro, it went through the draft, then it was flagged with a tag for review, as they pointed out possible problems in the conflict of interest. But this week, it was deleted and marked as WP:BLAR. I talked to @Qcne, he helped me with some questions and said that, for him, the article gained notoriety, just about. I would like to know why you felt that it does not meet the GNG and if I can do something to reverse this. Thank you for your attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Curiapeba (talkcontribs) 17:59, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Curiapeba please always start new discussions at the bottom of a page and WP:sign your comments. I have moved this one and signed it for you. S0091 (talk) 18:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Curiapeba (talk page watcher) thank you for raising this with the editor who reviewed it thus.
It is worth awaiting their answer before deciding on your next action. You are entitled to revert the reviewer's action, and may do it unilaterally. There is a process called WP:BRD which describes this. The usual place for discussion is on the draft or article talk page (the item where the reversion took place). This means the discussion would migrate there if you take this action.
I reiterate that awaiting their reply is useful, though you may do this without waiting if you choose.
I have not looked at the draft, so have only given you technical advice. I have not weighed the merits of the blanked draft., and make no comment upon any notability (not notoriety). 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Curiapeba I should say that you need to abide by WP:PAID in all actions in this regard, lest you face harsh criticism. Obviously not just in this regard, but we are speaking of a specific case. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:29, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Curiapeba, welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for asking. I redirected your draft as part of WP:NPP process for patrolling unreviewed articles as well as send articles that doesn't meet WP:GNG or any specific WP:SNG to WP:AFD. I wouldn't talk about the promotional nature of the article but note: being any entrepreneur otherwise a founder of a non notable organization doesn't show notability. It may be called WP:UNDUEWEIGHT, especially when we have a wholly content about the organisation therein. Also, notability is WP:NOTINHERIT. Normally we would redirect to the organization's page if any, but if you insist, I can revert and send to AFD or if you wish to improve your draft, I will draftify it for you. Please don't be discouraged and remember to follow the rules for WP:PAID. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SafariScribe, I gladly accept help in writing and improving the article. How can we proceed? Regarding the rules for WP:PAID, I have already made it clear on my talk page that I am a paid contributor, I have no problems with continuing to comply with these rules. Curiapeba (talk) 20:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Curiapeba be sure you actually do comply. One of the things you did after the article was accepted was to remove a maintenance template stating the article contained paid contributions, which is true; it does contain paid contributions. That was wholly inappropriate and if you/your client are not prepared for others to edit the article, then Wikipedia is not the platform for you/your client. No one owns the article| (read that) and you nor anyone affiliated with Vorcaro should edit the article directly. In addition, being accepted through AfC does not mean an article meets any or all of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. The whole point of a crowd sourced platform is others contribute which also means no single person (or their proxies) controls it. S0091 (talk) 21:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You declined this with a note that SIGCOV is not met, but as far as I can tell, it is - just looking at the translated titles of all four cited sources suggests that they are about this individual (who is however referred to them as Chen Shiqi and not as Chan Sze Chi.

The article's creator may have trouble properly rendering Chinese names in English, but I don't think RS is an issue here. Can you revisit this? I think it can be published (the person seems notable, and the sources seem be reliable and meet SIGCOV). Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 05:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ofcourse it's partly, a problem of WP:SIGCOV. I just removed unsourced and likewise, promotional unnecessary details, yet I couldn't see the draft meeting WP:GNG. Also, source one points to an error page and may be resolved using the Wayback machine (archive.org). Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking your input

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Hello SafariScribe, If you have the time would you please review the Draft:Jennifer Kumiyama article I just re-submitted for review. I'm especially interested in your thoughts on the tone of the article and the choice/quality of the references. Thank you very much. Best, Jack Tarre. Jack Tarre (talk) 15:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will look at Draft:Jennifer Kumiyama. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 18:52, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Ramneek Wayne

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@SafariScribe, can i have your feedback on Ramneek Wayne page because it was report by you Ramie.vee (talk) 06:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

and Also CBD news is local news channel of Melbourne, how came theat became unreliable source?
https://www.cbdnews.com.au/bringing-change-to-the-disability-sector/ Ramie.vee (talk) 06:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ramie.vee, why would you write your autobiography here? Didn't you read WP: AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Ignoring that very truth, I have accepted your draft and next, to WP:AFD. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 38, 2024)

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Hello, SafariScribe. The article for improvement of the week is:

Polling station

Please be bold and help improve it!


Previous selections: Caroline Islands • Cancel culture


Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations


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Request on 08:22:20, 16 September 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Helios688

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Aloha. re: Draft:Daniel K. Akaka VA Clinic Can you tell me which if any of the references did not meet criteria or if I just did not place enough references? Thanks much. Helios688 (talk) 08:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Helios688 (talk) 08:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citing an organization's website doesn't show notability as well as press releases. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and agreed. I have added a few more independent references and will update more over the next weekend. Unfortunately Hawaii has limited news coverage and thus is a selection bias on ease of meeting that threshold. Appreciate the input. I will work on it over the week. Thanks! Helios688 (talk) 04:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Would you mind looking at one of my articles and giving me some feedback on what I can do to improve the form and style of the coding? Is my syntax okay? Much thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA_Pacific_Islands_Health_Care_System
Helios688 (talk) 07:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marc Thorpe (architect)

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Hi SafariScribe! Hope all is well. Wondering if you could review this draft. I have cited two additional articles per your request that are directly about Marc or his work. See [1], [2]. I have also fixed other issues raised by Hoary. Thanks, 201.252.63.230 (talk) 16:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laugh wan kee me wen I see this article. Make God forgive me if na sin sha! >.< Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nom

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I wanted to restate that this was not the right way to go about getting rid of the draft. MfD is the proper place for problematic drafts. I do understand where you're coming from, but Mushy Yank is correct in that it may be demoralizing. There's also the possibility that the user just didn't understand why the sourcing wasn't usable. They mentioned that they saw it being used elsewhere on Wikipedia, so they may have been seeing a case where the source shouldn't have been used or it was being used as a primary or trivial type source (ie, not to establish notability). That can be common with interviews especially - and interviews are often one of the things that can seem most confusing to new users as far as sourcing goes. I know that when I was volunteering at an archive that was something that majorly confused some of the historians I worked with, as that would be something they'd consider a sign of notability.

In any case, I've given them a big rundown of the sourcing, so hopefully that will help them. If they renominate it after that then I'd bring it to MfD. I've recommended that they find more sourcing like the Dread Central source, as that was the one genuinely usable source in the group as far as establishing notability goes. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 23:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article Rejection for Draft:Bliss (Tech N9ne album)

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You stated that my article for "Draft:Bliss (Tech N9ne album) did not have "reliable sources" and I wanna know how you came to such conclusion considering that I have sources from CREDIBLE organizations and news sources? Billboard, HipHopDX, Rap Radar (founded by Elliott Wilson, etc. are all reputable and credible sources as well as the label in which the artist started and is signed to itself, Strange Music?

Please elaborate on how my sources for this article are not considered "reliable". TheMann1989 (talk) 07:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read WP:NALBUM and WP:RS? Your draft contains sources from YouTube, an unreliable platform as well as undergroundhiphopblog.com and Rap Radar, which are blogs. You should know that Apple music doesn't justify notability although we may use it to confirm that an artist truly released the music, that is, the originality. Lastly music or new song's announcements and citations to music videos like you did with Billboard and Rap Radar doesn't still justify notability. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Declining drafts as copyvio

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Hi SafariScribe, when you decline a draft for being copyvio, can you make sure to either place a speedy deletion tag on it or follow the instructions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions/Copyright cleanup instructions for revision deletion? This saves the attending admin from having to redo the work you already did to identify the copyvio.

By the way - I came here because I was just looking at Draft:Day of Salvation and Liberation and I'm not really clear on what action you think needs to be taken. I don't see any copyvio here, so I'm going to revert the decline (normally I'd just resubmit, but since this is a cv-decline I think I'd better revert). It's quite possible that I'm wrong, in which case please do decline it again and mark it for G12 or RD1. The section that is flagging earwig is an attributed block quote, not copyvio. -- asilvering (talk) 02:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copied, thank you. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 03:59, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accepted drafts which fail WP:SPORTBASIC

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Hey SafariScribe. I noticed that you accepted several drafts for NFL players (Cliff Hardy, Dave Parkin, and Jesse Thompson (American football)) which fail WP:SPORTBASIC, as they only contained references to database sources. Please keep in mind that sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Josh. I am not certain on declining those as they can serve as good redirects if debated at AFD. However, it's just another editor nominating them for deletion or doing a bold WP:BLAR. Although I wouldn't think like that again if it's going to cause more problem, but I believe the outcome may be redirecting if there isn't any improvement in the next hours/days. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:58, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Roberto R. Treviño

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Information icon Hello, SafariScribe. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Roberto R. Treviño, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Declining of Kabbalah in Kabul

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Greetings, SafariScribe! Thank you for taking the time to review my article about the film Kabbalah in Kabul. I understand it was declined out of concerns that the sources are not reliable. As the movie was not a blockbuster, the availability of entries regarding this film are limited. I do feel the sources I found are appropriate, professional, and credible (including the ones by production companies that reviewed the film).

Would you be able to give more guidance on what kind of sources would be reliable (or rather, what makes the sources I found unreliable), particularly for a page like this about a low-profile independent documentary film? I have already reviewed Wikipedia's own guidelines, which I feel I followed.

Thank you. Wikipedia on! Fruitworth (talk) 04:51, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pls provide the link to the declined draft. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This was published! Thanks so much, this is my first article so I'm excited.
The edits you made have unclear descriptions (they merely say "clean up", including one that changed over 5,000 bytes), so I am a bit confused. I noticed you removed much of the article's content. The background information on the film's two main subjects uses sources from The Jerusalem Post and Times of Israel, which are not considered unreliable by Wikipedia. Why was this removed?
Also, the plot of the film was completely removed. Other film articles that I read on Wikipedia do not routinely cite any sources inside the Plot section... because the film itself is the source. Why was this removed, as well? Fruitworth (talk) 11:13, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations @Fruitworth, and I always want to see people happy like you.
I removed them inorder to accept the draft, as those contents weren't needed. When we write an article, for example, a film, it's not necessary writing the profile of all the cast or all the names of the crew; they don't make an article encyclopedic. Additionally, the sources you provided are reliable but they aren't independent of the film, instead about the actors directly or indirectly on set or their interview during or after filming. To help you in the future, read WP:UNDUEWEIGHT. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Bom dia! Greetings SafariScribe. Last night I have received with patience the declining of my draft for a Draft:General debate of the seventy-ninth session of the United Nations General Assembly. My understanding is that this has been declined for it does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, and it was suggested that I merge it's contents with Seventy-ninth session of the United Nations General Assembly.

However I would like to point that as it is shown on the template for the Template:United_Nations_General_Assembly_General_Debates, creating a separate page for the debate is customary, and the ammount of information I have submitted has for the past years been sufficient for an approval. The only information that the other examples, such as the 78th or the 77th may contain that my article yet does not contain is the names of the speakers that will take stage, precisely because those informations are not yet availiable because it did not happen yet.

In conclusion, I ask for your comprehension, to defer to the past consecutive deicisions on this Wiki, that this ammount of information is enough for the continued creation of pages for the General Debate sepparatly from the General Assembly page.

I await if following instructions for me are needed! Thank you for reading and revising both this comment and my Draft. I am at your and the commmunity's service.— Preceding unsigned comment added by BoogsterSugar (talkcontribs)

 Done: pls update it when necessary. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:31, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please check my article

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Please review my article about a television series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Maka_(TV_series) Zanbarg (talk) 10:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: I told you that GMA network is a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE because it was the same network that hosted the series, and that the sources are normally about an episode or thereabout, which doesn't show notability. While there isn't any specific order for reviewing drafts, I looked at it again and behold, seems like an untouched resubmitted draft. I'm sorry but not to discourage you, I can't do anything but may help edit it if I sense anything like notability per WP:NFILM. I will also allow another reviewer to step in and accept or decline it most probably. However, I am declining your request, @Zanbarg. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 39, 2024)

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Hello, SafariScribe. The article for improvement of the week is:

Human geography

Please be bold and help improve it!


Previous selections: Polling station • Caroline Islands


Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations


Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • Opt-out instructions[reply]

Can you explain why you thought Zezé (novel) didn't meet WP:NBOOK? Whatever it is, I'd like to clear it up, because this is very obviously a very notable book! -- asilvering (talk) 04:55, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a very very notable book. I rechecked and believe me, couldn't give any reason for declining this particular draft. Maybe I was looking at something else's. My bad, and thanks for helping. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

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Hey SafariScribe, I wanted to say that in most of my Wikipedia articles based on Nigerian albums, I usually use The Native Magazine as a source, and I wanted to make sure it was reliable. I'm currently working on the Empire Distribution compilation album Where We Come From, Vol. 01, and at the time that I am writing this I'm using the singles section, citing The Native. Once I finish, you can tell me whether or not The Native Magazine is reliable or not. Thanks! OsigbemheEJB (talk) 03:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OsigbemheEJB, The Native is a reliable source but not when it's just a music announcement, the video or promotion. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:45, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, unfortunately, for the final single off the album, "Thing For You," all reliable sources for the single are also announcements for the music video. What should I do? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 17:45, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, unfortunately, for the final single off the album, "Thing For You," all reliable sources for the single are also announcements for the music video. What should I do? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 17:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was almost looking for sources but noticed that you've already resubmitted before coming here. Because I don't review drafts twice I will leave it for another. But please, always try, as much as possible/you can, to assimilate any given policy especially the onew that will help you in writing about musics and musicians. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rejected draft follow-up

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Greetings SafariScribe, this is HC226, I noticed you rejected my submission for Alex Andrade (Mixed martial artist). You have left a message asking for more secondary sources to be added. I would like to know if there are any sports websites you would recommend I look into for this. Thank you for your review and feedback.

All the best, HC226.— Preceding unsigned comment added by HC226 (talkcontribs)

I would recommend Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts/MMA notability first before Wikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial arts/sources. Please read them very well. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good work anyways

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Hello Safari, hope you having a great day ahead. Saw your activity towards the article Iyana-Iba. Although that was a nice move but I believe as well that @Timtrent must have known about the WP involve and I believe he did the closure due to it was requested by the nominator on the nominators talk page. I feel the Nominator doesn’t know how to close an AFD reason Timtrent had to help out but it’s okay anyways. Better days ahead. Gabriel (……?) 17:55, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gabriel601, I have been quiet, but since you landed here, I must commend you. I am now happy that you responded effectively to understanding Wikipedia, suppressed criticisms, and BOOM! you've become one of the best editors we have especially with citing policies during an AFD discussion. My prayer truly worked on you, hahaha. Remember to keep it slow and steady as well as always enjoy what you like doing. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 18:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:IAR, but no harm no foul 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks & I do appreciate your words of advice back then as they do made me have a re-think about life & how things should be done here. I have also added about six source listed on the article talk page of Draft talk:Ulugbekhon Maksumov after your decline I feel they could meet the WP:GNG. Gabriel (……?) 20:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

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Hello, SafariScribe,

I saw your comment on an admin's User talk page about the deleted article Bae Youn-kyu. Speaking as a closer, you'll have more success asking an AFD closer to userfy or draftify the content of a deleted article than ask for an admin to revert an AFD closure. Reverting a discussion is really the closer saying they made a mistake in doing their job which is quite different from just asking for the content to be available so you could work with it and improve it. See the difference? Liz Read! Talk! 23:46, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz, I was the one who nominated the article for deletion, but later, considered userfication, following the author's request and an additional single vote (which was later changed to delete, and I didn't know), I agreed to draftify the article. With this context in mind, I reached out to Asilvering to reconsider userfication after I saw the AFD closure as well as not looking at the final analysis, and still hoping to secure three supporting votes for draftification. I wasn't seeking a copy as I am not the creator. Thank you for the reminder. Additionally, I acknowledge that Asilvering's closure decision was correct, infact, accurate. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:04, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SafariScribe Thank you for your review a few months ago of this page and the feedback. I have updated and hope to have adequately met the criteria for notability. I had originally included the Order of Australia (which is a national recognition) and would have thought this met the criteria including #2. Since she is a Fellow of a Royal Society (The Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychiatrists) wouldn't this also meet criteria #3? I hope I have made this a little clearer in the article now. Further I have made Quadrio's impact on education a little clearer, she founded the masters degree in Psychotherapy at one of Australias most prestigious universtities. Perhaps criteria #6 in terms of chair of RANZCP and #8 President of Editorial board of the Australian Journal. I am having trouble obtaining the stats on the journals impact. Whilst it might be important in Australia I understand this might not have enough impact globally. Lastly,criteria #7 - whenever there is big news on childhood sexual abuse or institutional abuse, Quadrio is called in as an expert. I have added some citations to radio, panel and newspapers. Sorry to read you are feeling stressed, if you feel motivated and want to make further comments on my work, it will be welcomed. Take care Bcritical (talk) 08:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft is huge and will require clean up. I see unsourced contents and yet again, it was declined. I will check it later. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:00, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have looked at other similar pages with much less citations. Shall I strip it right back to just a few lines in each section? Thanks @SafariScribe. Bcritical (talk) 01:56, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SafariScribe thanks so much for your edits, it really helped. I will sort the sources, though I have not come across that flag before (and I am a bit rusty on WP). Is it in good shape otherwise?Bcritical (talk) 08:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Sentebale F&D (20:51, 24 September 2024)

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Hello. How do I view published articles? --Sentebale F&D (talk) 20:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia, @Sentebale F&D. Use the search bar to search for any article you are looking for. If you can't find it, then it doesn't exist. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:18, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you 197.229.7.111 (talk) 23:33, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for Northwest LELO article

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Hello, you recently declined my article submission for Northwest LELO. I believe that all the sources I listed meet the requirements of being independent, reliable, and secondary with significant coverage of the topic. I explained this further on the article's talk page in response to the previous reviewer's message. Could you please give me specific details as to why the sources are not sufficient? Thanks! LaborHistoryFan (talk) 18:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's almost 12pm WAT, and I am going to mass (holy mass), pls bear with me. I will give my reasons after the liturgy. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:41, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The books you cited doesn't have page numbers. Chapters are part of the bibliographical details, but a reviewer would mostly prefer the page numbers to easy verify. Also, archiveswest.orbiscascade.org does appear to have a record of the organisation, although good, but I feel it isn't reliable because it may contain so many unpublished works (like a gazette). If you have more (good ones) sources, please cite it. It will help your draft per WP:SIGCOV. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Bliss (Tech N9ne album)

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So is allmusic not a reliable source? TheMann1989 (talk) 15:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheMann1989 Yes , AllMusic is widely recognized as a trusted source for music reviews and discographies, with a good collection of information about albums, genres, and artists. see WP:MUSICRS However, when it comes to artist biographies, its reliability is sometimes viewed with caution. The biographical details on AllMusic are often less comprehensive, and in some cases, they might lack the depth or accuracy found in more specialized or primary sources. it's often better to cross-reference multiple sources to ensure accuracy. Afro 📢Talk! 15:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So why is my article still getting denied when I have AllMusic as the primary source with many supporting ones as well? TheMann1989 (talk) 07:49, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please can you drop a link to the draft here ? also the supporting sources are they from reliable platforms ? Afro 📢Talk! 09:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bliss_(Tech_N9ne_album) and yes they are. TheMann1989 (talk) 10:29, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheMann1989 Alright, I’ll go through the draft and see how I can help improve it. Afro 📢Talk! 11:42, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheMann1989, your draft doesn't appear to meet WP:NMUSIC. OK, the sources are mostly the problem: Source 1 is a listing at AllMusic, and it's considered unreliable (see WP:ALLMUSIC).Source 2 is a link from an unreliable source, YouTube (see WP:YOUTUBE). Know that the tracks of an album can have a Wikipedia page, and I didn't find it funny when you keep providing references of the singles (sources that wouldn't even mention the album, e.g the 3rd source). Please read WP:42 to know the type of sources we would want to see in drafts before accepting. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Demetrus Coonrod

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Hi,

Thanks for your comment on the Demetrus Coonrod draft. I appreciate that a city councilperson isn't notable per Wikipedia, but thought Coonrod might qualify for being one of the first women in the country to earn her voting rights back after a felony conviction, arguably the first, and because she's a Black woman with a felony conviction elected to office in Tennessee.

Please advise?


Thanks! Speculo (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I usually prefer to see the link to the draft. Could you be of help? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here you go - thanks for asking!
Draft:Demetrus Coonrod#Politics Speculo (talk) 22:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Speculo, you need to see the arguments raised at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Demetrus Coonrod. The bio doesn't meet WP:NPOL. If you are not a paid editor, you may need to review our notability guidelines , to know the type of people that deserves a Wikipedia article. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Florida page rename request

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Hello SafariScribe, I noticed you were the one who renamed Trump's "second assassination" page. I was wanting to discuss why I think it shouldn't be labelled an assassination attempt:

Routh did not fire his weapon, therefore I don't think it should be labeled an assassination attempt, but rather an incident, like the rest of Trump's security failures in which Wikipedia doesn't label assassination attempts. On July 13th, Crooks did indeed fire his weapon and it harmed Trump, which is why it's labelled an assassination attempt. Since Routh didn't fire his weapon and didn't harm anyone, I wanted to discuss whether it should be renamed to something like "Trump International Golf Course incident" or not. Thanks. - CMBGAMER 2018

Maybe you are at the wrong place. I didn't close any rename request concerning the article above. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting to review the draft

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Hello @SafariScribe, requested to review the pending draft Kaveri Draft:Kaveri (2024 film). Hope it will be approved and moved to main space. Vinsa24 (talk) 13:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Exploration (game)

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Heya,
I'm just wondering what you did with the moving on Exploration (game) because it's shown up in the new pages feed and I'm not entirely sure what's gone on with all the moves (most likely I've overlooked something (I'm getting back into editing more again slowly)) and the draft having been declined but then there's a mainspace page and it's confusing me :/

Thanks, Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 16:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to draftify and to bypass the redirect speedy deletion tagging. However, I ended up swapping the article and draft. Additionally, it has been nommed at AFD, and I have participated. Cheers! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:12, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

draft in the WP:ARBMAC topic area

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Hi,

I noticed you had accepted Draft:18th Western Slavonian Corps. While it looked like it was sourced, I immediately found several unsigned blogs there. It also uses suspect tone like 'famously' or 'a rapid and decisive offensive'. The user who added it seems to have a name that may indicate a conflict of interest - it's named "SVK" "arhiva" where the acronym probably refers to Srpska vojska Krajine or Serbian Army of Krajina. Obviously this last part is particularly subtle.

As this topic area is prone to various kinds of abuse, I'd advise a tad more caution in reviewing these in the future. If you're unsure, please feel free to reach out, either directly to me or at WT:SRB, WT:HRV or similar.

Thanks! --Joy (talk) 20:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia biography

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Hello. So, I've been thinking about making Wikipedia articles based on Nigerian singers, rappers, and/or producers. The thing is, I tried to make one in the past (Draft:Kayswitch) but it got declined, so I want to know the main tips on making a Wikipedia article based on a living person. What citations should I use? What sections do I put in the article? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 22:40, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OsigbemheEJB, you are already writing well on albums and songs, and I would have love to see you take them to WP:GA status. However, please always be mindful of not including the featured artists of a song into your articles; they are usually a bit clustering, and would best suit the information box). Also, you don't appear to have assimilated the non usage of music announcements— see that a lot in your drafts—but who am I? I would simply accept the draft, with hope of working on it later. As for BLPs, research about the person very well. It's not when you see many newspaper publications, then you will include that the person is notable. No, you should avoid interviews especially and some headlines like: "I am a sleeping song wizard—Simi", "Kayode beating badly the widescreen of Nigerian music—Kayode's lawyer", e.t.c.
I normally judge artists notability per WP:NMUSICIAN. An article could be as short as a great stub but with verifiable information and meeting a specific SNG (let's say WP:NAUTHOR). Ask me more and safe editing. You are doing marvelously well, and I enjoy reading your drafts (now accepted as articles). Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I'll look into reliable articles to find good information to put in a biography about a Nigerian musician. I'm thinking about making one about the Nigerian producer Semzi because he's been producing songs off lots and lots of albums lately. I'm gonna look at WP:NMUSICIAN to see how to structure my next article. Thanks for the information. OsigbemheEJB (talk) 01:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

American Freedmen

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You mentioned that my article relates to Freedmen and Enslavement. American Freedmen is the modern name for our population. The OMB is considering on adding American Freedmen to the census and the there’s a bill for a vote in California to add an American Freedmen Affairs Agency. What should I do to get this approved because you all approved other Freedmen’s like Choctaw Freedmen. Arthurwatkins2904 (talk) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same here, I can't view the draft. Please link it here and save me the stress. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here’s the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:American_Freedmen Arthurwatkins2904 (talk) 23:23, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what you can do. However, merging the contents with reliable sources to Freedman may be great. What do you think? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If that’s the only way, it will help. Arthurwatkins2904 (talk) 15:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! But please, read WP:MERGE very well before attempting, or open a merge discussion on the article's talk page for a proper WP:consensus. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September thanks

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story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in September! - Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost, BWV 114, is one of the pieces in my topic of this year. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:26, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Gerda Arendt. I am not usually familiar with some of those musicals or thereabout, but I am mostly interested in literature and Christianity. Shout at to you, for you're the mother of article polishing and quality :). Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:42, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Catherine Peichel

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Hi there, thank you for reviewing my first draft article. I see it was rejected for not meeting WP:NACADEMIC. I may be confused, but I thought this person would pass as they are elected to the National Academy of Sciences, which is specifically mentioned in #3 as one of the academic notability criteria.

I'll admit it's not a long article, but I wanted to make it at least to stub status when I discovered Peichel was one of only 2 scientists elected to NAS in the field Evolutionary Biology that didn't already have a Wikipedia article about them. (See List here in wiki, built from NAS list of members.)

Is there anything I'm missing about the notability guidelines for academics? Thank you! Cyanochic (talk) 08:32, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please link the draft. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah sorry, here is the draft! Draft:Catherine Peichel Cyanochic (talk) 08:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. There are small issues with the draft, but could you help me add her works in a list, let's say, "Publications"? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see you approved it now, thank you! If I can ask one more quick question - Is there a reason (or page I can go read) on why you changed it to the academic infobox vs scientist? I wasn't sure which one to choose when I was creating the draft originally. Cyanochic (talk) 09:24, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 09:22:42, 28 September 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by BrocadeRiverPoems

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Hello!

I've added to the article in question. I wasn't the one who originally created it, but since it was moved to draftspace as I was considering whether it was notable, I decided to try and improve the article. The problem I'm running into now, however, is I've exhausted everything I can find on the person. Does having an entry in the Biographical dictionary of Chinese women meet the notability requirement?

If not, I am out of ideas on trying to save this article.

Cheers!

Brocade River Poems (She/They) 09:22, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, per WP:ANYBIO. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:53, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks! I wasn't sure because of the wording. Brocade River Poems (She/They) 20:29, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note

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Hi, i saw you rejected Draft:Mizanur Rahman Azhari. Please note that someone copied the draft and created Mizanur Rahman Azharih by copying the draft. Although Mizanur Rahman Azhari has been deleted multiple time (including two deletion discussion), even protected from creation. It seems the creator of that article bypassed all of this. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 08:45, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P.M. News interviews

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So, last time I contacted you, I noticed you said something about with making biographies, I'd need to avoid articles with something like "Why I no longer grant interviews on Nigerian economy - Moghalu" or something like that. Mostly, interviews with those titles are from P.M. News, which, in some interviews, have very usable and reliable information which would be great to put in a biography. Also, about songs, I see a section about "charts." For one of my articles related to songs, Tshwala Bam, I put a charts section. Am I supposed to update that every day? If so, what if the song exits the chart? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 06:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) So to answer your questions, OsigbemheEJB, interviews from reliable sources (such as PM News) can be used to verify informations but not strictly to satisfy the general notability guidelines. For the songs, if it peaked at, say, #1 in the TurnTable charts, then it should be worded like: “Tshwala Bam peak at #1 in the [insert platform],(add citation) and exited the chart after [insert day, week, year]”. It doesn’t have to sound that way but this should give you an idea. BTW, there are a lot of GAs on albums that you can use as a point of contact. Best, Reading Beans 19:10, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 40, 2024)

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Eight gold Spanish escudo (1687), issued during the reign of Carlos II of Spain
Hello, SafariScribe. The article for improvement of the week is:

Currency of Spain

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