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Loved the address link at Wendy Yoshimura. ClaudeReigns (talk) 08:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Dawn Wells[edit]

I've commented out something you've added because I don't understand its function - {{Rp|5}}. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

• Umm, try again re-reading the documentation for template {{Rp}} -- let me know if you're still having difficulty.

WurmWoodeT 02:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

In the first place, it was confusing and extremely uncommon. This is the first time I've seen it, and I've been editing for a substantial while. Secondly, if I didn't know how to find the documentation for it, how likely is it that an average reader would be able to? Third, if there's a simpler, clearer method, why not use it? Finally, and not least, according to the documentation, it is supposed to be used when a source is "cited many, many times, at numerous different pages". Once doesn't seem to qualify. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
• Yeah, you caught me, I was just using a cut'n'paste edit from my kit for common <ref> tags with multiple page citations.
• Thanks for your point about uncommon usage, Most Linked Templates shows {{Rp}} is not even in the top 1000,
  I wish template documentation indicated whether such items were current and/or popular (preferred).

WurmWoodeT 09:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Metalstorm / Metal Storm[edit]

You were incorrect, my intent was to redirect to the weapons page as it was the only notable usage of "metal storm" I was aware of. You will note at the top of that page it has the "redirects here" box. I have "re-repaired" the redirect. On the assumption there is not substantial reason to do otherwise, and given that the current redirect points it at a page which looks to have been templated as unreferenced since July of 2008. Darker Dreams (talk) 22:34, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:Template broken[edit]

I think I've fixed it. The site it uses seems to have moved. If there are still bugs, let me know. --Eliyak T·C 01:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Storyville coords[edit]

Your Storyville coordinates, according to Google Maps, are at the west corner of Rampart and Canal, which is outside of and a block away from the nearest corner of the District. The present day corner of Marais and Bienville would be a better choice. Rees11 (talk) 20:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, after I left the message I decided I should fix it instead of just complaining. Rees11 (talk) 01:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children[edit]

The multiple references aren't necessary, and if you must use them, they can be combined into one. Viriditas (talk) 01:44, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

About multiple citations within one ref — there were two parts to my editing, the first set of ref's I added to support the details that I added for each component of the hospital, and for the reader to catch the timeline feature as well. The second set of citations was originally within one ref tag, and I split them into separate ref's for visual clarity.
I don't see a template for combining multiple citations within one <ref> info </ref> tag set, without such a template the current <ref> tag generates an undecipherable kludge (not easy on the eyes) unless one uses <br /> tags or some such for clarity.
WurmWoodeT 05:13, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I disagree, but I have no objection to the use of the break tag. We don't need the citations split up. Viriditas (talk) 23:29, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
BTW, I wanted to let you know that using multiple citations within one appears to be standard practice for some journals, such as the Journal of Pacific History. I'm reading an article published in 1998 ("The United States Annexation of Wake Atoll, Central Pacific Ocean") that combines multiple citations within one reference and is quite easy on the eyes. I'm afraid I don't see any problem. Viriditas (talk) 13:19, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, your point is abundantly clear. I beg to defer, it's not just a visual delineation, there are other audiences. Not every reader has such youthful and beautiful eyes as yourself, and then those with impaired vision using screen readers also can not discern the individual citations as the verbage aurally blends together with no clue as to the breaks between citations. The way that the <ref> tag works, it does not clearly delineate between multiple encapsulated citations, there are no line–breaks, nor flags or pips or some other clue.
WurmWoodeT 17:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Taylor Swift article -- Fearless and MTV VMA controversy[edit]

Hello, WurmWoode. I get what you meant/mean about that section being overwhelming all packed together, without a subsection or two, but I feel that dividing it in the way that you did was not the best route to go. Not only did it separate the 2009 year from Fearless, which is also about Fearless, but it gave undue weight to the Kanye West matter. The 2009 Fearless information is better left combined with the 2008 Fearless information, either plain or as a subsection, though it could use a trim. And the MTV VMA controversy section is better left as a subsection of the Fearless section...without being divided into subsections; it does not need them. I have done all this with the article. Let me know if you object in any way, so that we can better work on this together. Flyer22 (talk) 00:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

West is at this time a major portion, text-wise, the 800-pound gorilla in the room, and seems intrusive within the chronological or biographic timeline, as currently laid-out. It was "inaccessible" without a TOC entry, and perhaps should be either trimmed or excised -- relocated so as not to interrupt the flow of the timeline which is intended it seems to focus upon her music, albums and tours. Perhaps reduced to a short sentence in her article and then linked to a separate page where all of the gory details can be laid bare. A style I've seen in other articles, to keep them focused on the key person, place, or event, with links to the separate but related articles and thus reducing clutter or distractions from the theme of the main article.
WurmWoodeT 17:21, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Citation templates[edit]

The Wikipedia:Citing sources#Citation templates and tools guideline states "Templates may be used or removed at the discretion of individual editors, subject to agreement with other editors on the article. Because templates can be contentious, editors should not change an article with a distinctive citation format to another without gaining consensus.". Jc3s5h (talk) 22:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

If you check the archives of Wikipedia talk:Citing sources you will find that citations from plain text to templates is considered a major change per se, even if the style of the citations presented to the reader is similar to the pre-existing style. This is because it creates a major change in how editors have to edit the article. The article that I took notice of was Secular variations of the planetary orbits‎. As for whether you made a "drive-by" edit, I won't comment one way or the other, because the phrase means different things to different people. I don't doubt that you have a sincere interest in improving articles.
I did notice that several of your edits involved changing articles with no templates so that they would use templates. That might be fine if the article was a bit of a mess and had no discernible citation style, but consensus on the talk page should be formed before changing the citation style of an article that has a clear style. Jc3s5h (talk) 00:16, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

You can has cheezeburger![edit]

Cheeseburger.png Cheers! -- Derek Ross | Talk 06:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

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soft gamma repeater[edit]

nice job on that. Decora (talk) 04:19, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for improving and cleaning up the references/links. - Embram (talk) 20:46, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Free Expression Policy Project[edit]

I've created an article on the organization Free Expression Policy Project.

Suggestions for additional secondary sources would be most appreciated, at Talk:Free Expression Policy Project.


Cirt (talk) 04:29, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Notifying you, as you'd previously helpfully created the page as an initial redirect, so thank you for that inspiration for me to begin a quality improvement project on this topic related to freedom of speech and censorship! — Cirt (talk) 04:30, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject Freedom of Speech[edit]

Pseudo-anglicisms in Japanese[edit]

You tidied up some of the citations on the Wasei-eigo page, and also put back a part that begins: "These include acronyms and initialisms particular to Japan (see list of Japanese Latin alphabetic abbreviations)." There are a number of problems here: first, who know what this "These" refers to?! But more importantly, the list of abbreviations page is quite a mess: first the number of such abbreviations is vast (a handy 1993 "Wordlist book" 現代用語の基礎知識 lists around 1100 as "in vogue"), and secondly it is absurd to claim that more than a tiny proportion are 和製英語. I can amend this description, and also move this sentence before the bit about confusion with "Engrish", but I wanted to see if you had any particular reason to put this back in this somewhat misplaced position. I also really wonder what is the point of quoting a Japanese book as "Further reading", or for that matter of citing Kenkyusha unless making a specific point about the meaning of a word.

Please, feel free to make your suggested amendments, however, your assumption is off base.
If you were using the wiki tool for viewing differences, it is not a perfect tool, if you use your browser search of the page using a sample of text you will see that I did not add any text, what looks like added text in the "after" column is merely "pushed down" text, the same as it already appears in the "before" column, just moved down by the expanded citation text, although the diff engine flags "+" that text as "new" (smh).
I only modified references and their included citations, making them specific and accurate —after reviewing their links.
I too am researching for begining Japanese and any good resources, which is why I repair references so that others who follow these links will have a better time searching by keyword, title, author, publisher, and when appropriate identifiers like ISBN. I use google against wikipedia.  "sample one"  "sample two"
Kenkyusha —you would have to backtrack page edits to find the editor who made that reading section, they may have found it valuable in it's word citation style for pseudo-english or may have an appendix of such words. Or, on the flip side, it may be poorly compiled and it is an example of a huge pile of pseudo-english.
As to the choice of books, either english or japanese, may have different perspectives on the same book's utility and completeness. WurmWoodeT 02:32, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

On a separate issue: do you know of any neat tools for automating Japanese standard references? I started trying to convert the references on the Ikiryō article, but it is such a tedious job looking every publisher up in WP:ja to find whether they have a WP:en entry, and this could clearly be automated. Any suggestions? (Please reply here: I am watching.) Imaginatorium (talk) 10:05, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't know your sophistication, have you tried the different citation tools ? You can check to see if any Bots are already used by Wikipedia for your task or put in a request for a bot to be made. Also if your only concern is manual edits while modifying one article then a script may be what you need, or write one and get it approved, or request one be made. Or does something like this editor have the feature(s) you need ? WurmWoodeT 02:32, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Several times I have ran across your edits to a page on my watchlist, and every time I have been impressed by the improvement. It is editors like you, quietly making improvements, that keep Wikipedia running. Keep up the good work! Guy Macon (talk) 00:12, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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Die Another Day (song)#Synopsis[edit]

Hello WurmWoode, can you explain to me how this website is even considered reliable per WP:RS? —IB [ Poke ] 19:12, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Wait, what? Why are you shooting (reverting) first and then asking a (rhetorical) question afterwards? My adblockers apparently shielded me too well, despite it being apparently self published, I thought that I had found a simple "dictionary" style transliteration, my research of the site & owner indicate an Israeli and I presumed a hebrew/culture sensitive perspective/knowledge, aside from the material matching well with other hebrew translation sources. I reckon I will have to turn off adblocking when researching. WurmWoodeT 04:50, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

On László Bíró[edit]

On the László Bíró page, you added a line (I think) mentioning "... unlike the version invented 22 years earlier by John J. Loud in 1888". The 22 years seem off---what was done in 1910? Maybe a typo? Bill Stafford (talk) 20:44, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks—cut'n'paste is no substitute for arithmetic, nor fact checking WurmWoodeT 01:30, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

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SPI case of interest[edit]

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jeremy112233.

According to other comments you made recently, you may have evidence for this case. Feel free to add any you might have.

jps (talk) 10:06, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

PS General Slocum[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on PS General Slocum. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

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I wasn't aware that changing bolded text meant to represent a subheading into an actual subheading that would appear in the TOC was *controversial*. But with the reasoning that you supplied for your reverts (bold is access, superior layout, and paraphrasing you "let'em eat scroll")— well, what is one to do with such logic? WurmWoodeT 03:57, 3 August 2017 (UTC)