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Category:American Dance Acts to Category:American dance acts

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The result of the debate was yikes thats a mess. no consensus.. Syrthiss 13:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cut and pasted from Categories for deletion/Log/2006 April 28:

I've added it here rather than simply renaming it myself in case there's a better new name ("acts" is misleading, as these are individuals). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from speedy after discussion. Vegaswikian 18:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, rename it, but I changed the title a little to make it sound better. Robert Moore 21:07 22 April 2006 (UTC)
  • There shouldn't be a hyphen, I'd say, as the article is at dance music. I prefer dance acts, though - It's the more common term for, well, dance acts. :p I've never heard dance musicians referred to as "dance artists", but when you hear groups such as 2 Unlimited mentioned, they're always called a dance act. Esteffect 22:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • The hyphen is grammatically required; it distinguishes between a "dance music-act" and a "dance-music act" (compare the more obvious example: "three year-old dogs"/"three-year-old dogs"). And "dance acts" is ambiguous, as it could mean (as I originally took it to mean) dancers. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:06, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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British people by ethnic or national origin

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The result of the debate was delete. Syrthiss 13:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

note from closing admin - so we have a bunch of categories that are orphaned or nearly so, with odd naming, and questionable criteria (per delete votes). however from the votes we have several for rename and keep. so... I'm deleting these mostly empty cats, and when / if people want to populate properly named categories feel free to create them and populate them. Be aware that they may end up being deleted anyhow based on the deletion arguments presented here (and in the past) --Syrthiss 13:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Asian British and British Chinese cats can reasonably be kept as these terms both have general currency in the UK, not least in the census and in other government-published statistics [1]. Personally, I would rather not have a "British of Irish descent" cat as it is tremendously vague but I chose not to nominate it here as it replaced a cat called "Irish-British people" (or similar) which was discussed here a good few months ago. I voted to delete that cat, but a compromise was negotiated to rename to the current name and I voted to accept the rename rather than have a no consensus vote which would leave the neologistic name in place. I felt it would be bad faith for me now to seek a delete. If anyone else wants to nominate this cat, however, I would be minded to delete! (It is worth noting that "White Irish" is an option on the census, but it might reasonably be argued that that refers to those people in Northern Ireland who consider themselves Irish rather than "ethnically" British and to the many Irish citizens resident in the UK). BTW, many of the American "ethnicity" cats are IMO also a nonsense but they are a nonsense that many Americans (and others) choose to believe in and define themselves by - there are numerous organisations that explicitly or implicitly work for the interests of individual "hyphenated American" groups. Britons generally don't label themselves in this way. Valiantis 22:10, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just to answer your other point, I stated the number of pages populating the cats as evidence that there is no "public demand" for such cats. This is fairly common practice on

this page as far as I can see. Valiantis 23:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i agree that North Americans can go too far at times with the ethnicity thing and don t deny the clarity of the case you and other British users have made for not having these cats for British bios. i however hate to see inconsistently where some countries have these kinds and others don t and that they can t be created by users with in interest in human migration (such as myself) because users without an interest in them wish not to have them. they provide rather trivial info i do think (too) and perhaps are too trivial to be in an encyclopedia (a case of where to draw the line, as with many things). but as you point out, they are hard to do away with entirely and again i just don t like to have them in place on the one hand but not entirely/thoroughly. Mayumashu 14:35, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Categories by person to Category:People who have their own categories Category:Person categories

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The result of the debate was per my talk page, rename to Category:Categories named after people. Syrthiss 13:33, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note from closing admin - Uhh, I'm sorry guys. I really tried to follow all the discussion to come to a logical decision for ~30 minutes, but I've only had one cup of tea this morning. It looks like some of you were going to go off somewhere and discuss this more. If you weren't, and can create a coherent thread that shows a consensus for one of the names I'm willing to reopen this and go to town. --Syrthiss 13:33, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This was renamed not too long ago (Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 March 18) but I was persuaded at the time by an argument that on closer examination isn't true. The argument was that cat:Categories by person was a reasonable name because it fit in with the other members of Category:Categories by topic. However, if you look closely at other subcategories of that category you'll find that all of them that are labelled cat:Category by foo have members of the form cat:x by foo. So Category:Categories by city is populated with subcategories like Category:Churches by city and Category:Culture by city. By this convention then a category called Category:Categories by person should be populated with subcategories of the form cat:x by person. So it is clear to me that this category is no way no how in the class of Category by foo categories and its name needs to be rethunk. JeffW 22:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rename per nom. Much clearer. CalJW 00:05, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I don't have a problem with this. Do you buy the shorter category:People with categories?--Mike Selinker 03:51, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom or to Category:Topical people or something brief. Carcharoth 09:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Interesting suggestion, but I don't think that accomplishes the goal of the category, which is a housekeeping function. (It says, "I am a category," not "I am worthy of a topic.")--Mike Selinker 15:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Topical people makes me think contemporary people. Since it's a category for categories, not for people, how about Category:Person categories? Person also narrows it down to individuals rather than ethnicities (peoples). SeventyThree(Talk) 15:28, 1 May 2006 (UTC) Changed my mind - see below. SeventyThree(Talk) 02:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually, I should have been clearer. I withdraw my suggestion concerning "Topical people" and now wish to make the more general point that it seems possible (though rare) to have a category grouping articles broadly linked by a person and his influence, and a category grouping articles more narrowly linked as being about a person and his life and times. I would call the former the "topic" category, and the latter the "person" category. The distinction would be: is the article/category about the person, or about the broader topic area that was started by and branches out from that person? A good example is literary figures. There should probably be a William Shakespeare category in this "Categories by person" category - but it is possible to draw a distinction between articles about the man and his works (the 'person' category), and articles about subjects more distantly related to Shakespeare, but that could still be grouped under an umbrella category (more like a portal) that brings together widely different areas and articles that have Shakespeare in common. Another example is the categories in the George W. Bush category - these could easily be subgrouped by different subject areas, or assigned to similar, but slightly different categories, that are broader than just Bush himself. Another way to think of this is to think of the name category being for stuff about a person's life and times, and the topic category being for stuff about the person's legacy, or continuing influence. Like a brand of fantasy, a school of literature or politics, and so forth. A final example (showing my bias in the matter), and the one that got me thinking about this, is the Category:Tolkien and Category:J. R. R. Tolkien distinction that I recently set up.
    • Do other people see this distinction between "people" and "topics" as well, and consider it useful, or am I splitting hairs here? Carcharoth 16:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • I see the difference, but at this stage, this part of the category infrastructure is so new that I think it'd be confusing to do what you're suggesting. In the future, though, it might make a lot of sense.--Mike Selinker 19:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. category:Topical people would be very unclear. Hawkestone 18:25, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Notwithstanding the above, English grammar would indicate that "Person categories" suggests "Categories that are person" or perhaps "...of person"; either way, without knowledge of the above I don't think folk coming across this name will readily understand what is intended, perhaps not even if they decided to visit the category. Inclined to oppose, but at present have no alternative to suggest. Regards, David Kernow 09:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some more suggestions for names for this category: Portal-like categories concerning people, Categories about people, People as categories, or Categories named after people. I prefer the last one. Carcharoth 17:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I too think that last suggestion might fit the bill, Carcharoth – nice one. Hopefully folk above will support or indicate drawbacks. In the meantime, however:

As an addendum to this debate, I've been searching Wikipedia for more categories named after people. Can anyone think of an easy way to do this? I can only think of getting a list of all articles about people - if this exists - and tweaking it to show "[[:Category:<article name>]]" and hence display category red- or blue-links for each article.
My search has so far discovered nearly 40 more eponymous categories (varyingly populated), bringing the total close to 100. That should give an idea of how widespread the practice is, and how much use of this kind of category is going to spread in the future. I still think they are portals, not categories, and that nearly all these eponymous categories are incorrectly categorised as if they were the main article, rather than a category of articles relating to the subject of the main article. Having said that, the way they are categorised at the moment makes them easier to find, so I'm being hoist on my own petard here! Categorising them "incorrectly" messes up the category relationships, but makes the categories easy to find! Carcharoth 14:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Czech-British people

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The result of the debate was delete. Syrthiss 13:35, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete These "hyphenated" nationality cats are an Americanism; it is not common in the UK to refer to people in this way. Certainly the term has no official governmental/statistical usage. The term is effectively a neologism and has no clear definition (Is it people born in the Czech Republic who now live in Britain, is it British people who have a Czech parent, etc ?). This cat has only one article Dan Luger who is also in the ridiculously named Category:Croatian-Englishes. Valiantis 22:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Nativists

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The result of the debate was delete. Syrthiss 13:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete POV attack category. Really no different than having Category:Racists. Postdlf 20:52, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Racists discriminate on the basis of race. Nativists discriminate on the basis of whether a culture is foreign, etc. Yes, it is different. It is a relevant and pertinent category. Why not delete Buchanan's "LGBT rights opposition" cat? Why not delete "pro-choice" or "pro-life" cats? If the concern is related to some of the people included denying their nativists sentiments, then would should also delete serial killers cats, etc. I think the POV problem comes from whomever wants to censor an article, not from someone merely posting what is known through various media outlets.Wigwam88 07:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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The result of the debate was delete. Syrthiss 13:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note, I added the umbrella notice before realizing that the description did not quite fit for interchanges, but it is part of the same pattern of edits. While there is a chance there there may genuinely be some overpasses and underpasses (and interchanges) of encyclopedic interest, I think the present efforts at categorization are misguided. Based on the initial articles added, does not actually categorize articles about overpasses, underpasses or interchanges--but rather articles about the highways on which such things occur.


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Category:National Medal of Science

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The result of the debate was Delete (empty) --William Allen Simpson 02:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - this category contained only the names of 2 recipients, and there already exists Category:National Medal of Science recipients. Since this is a non-controversial change, I already moved the individuals in the Medal cat to the recipients cat. Blainster 18:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:National Medal of Technology

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The result of the debate was Delete (empty) --William Allen Simpson 02:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - this category contained only the names of recipients, and there already exists Category:National Medal of Technology recipients. Since this is a non-controversial change, I already moved the individuals in the Medal cat to the recipients cat. Blainster 18:16, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Whistle register singers

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The result of the debate was Keep --William Allen Simpson 02:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a category. It mixes completely unrelated things in an absolutely non-informative manner. The very expression "Whistle register singers" is totally meaningless from the standpoint of Classical singing. Tantris 17:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment --- is that the only valid genre of music in which to base our categories? I hope not. The cat was named whistle register singers as opposed to say coloratura to be inclusive of the many soul, rock (and yes, pop) artists who make careers singing the high notes we love and respect. Antares33712 18:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep - it isn't just about classical singing. Its about singers who can sing at or above E6. The ability is rather rare and singers who tend to make careers out of this ability are notable for it. I admit the list needs cleanup and what-not but fundamentality, singers who can pitch notes that high are usually notable in that regard. Antares33712 18:40, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Antares33712. Postdlf 21:55, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - This is a good category. The whistle register is a commonly known term and known as a hard technique to use. Head and Falsetto registers don't commonly reach E6 and the whistle voice is a rare register. Myke 03:05, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. So far as I'm aware, "whistle register" singing is a recognised phenomenon with this recognised name, so I'd say it qualifies as a viable category regardless of how many members it may or may not have. Regards, David Kernow 16:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikimeet images to Category:Wikipedia meetups

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The result of the debate was merge per all knowing and all around wonderful nom. Syrthiss 13:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category had been marked for deletion as a subcat on April 19th's CFD, but rather than these images being tossed to the wayside I think they should prolly be upmerged into Wikipedia meetups. Syrthiss 15:32, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Norwegian porno stars

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The result of the debate was speedied. Syrthiss 15:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism meco 12:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Norwegian penis

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The result of the debate was speedied. Syrthiss 15:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism meco 12:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Canadian literary academics to Category:Canadian literary critics

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The result of the debate was merge. Syrthiss 13:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge wiki's article literary criticism's description of what a "literary critic" is and that the phrase is far more common that "literary academic" warrants this merger Mayumashu 11:02, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Columbia alumni to Category:Columbia University alumni

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The result of the debate was already merged apparently. Syrthiss 13:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge a mass renaming of alumni cat pages having full names apparently missed this one. Mayumashu 10:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Quinn, Daniel to Category:Daniel Quinn

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The result of the debate was rename. Syrthiss 13:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest the category be renamed to Daniel Quinn to be consistent with other categories in Category:Categories by person. Tim! 10:27, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Northern Ireland Canadians to Category:Northern Irish Canadians and Category:Northern Ireland emigrants to Category:Northern Irish emigrants

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The result of the debate was rename. Syrthiss 13:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename as all other Northern Irish cat pages were recently Mayumashu 08:20, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Penitentials

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The result of the debate was delete. Syrthiss 13:40, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was wrongly listed at AfD: There is one short article in this category which, if expanded, would sum up penitentials without the need for superfluous categorisation. Since its creation eight months ago nothing has been added, and it is likely nothing will be. Eivindt@c 06:52, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Brazilian-English people to Category:Brazilian-British peopleCategory:British people of Brazilian descent and Category:Croatian-Englishes to Category:Croatian-British peopleCategory:British people of Croatian

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The result of the debate was delete. Syrthiss 13:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Rename both. there are too few to population these pages to limit them to those who reside in England and not the U.K. as a whole Mayumashu 06:14, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

comment alternative renaming now nominated in light of User:Valiantis's point made on the ambiguity of the kind of naming original proposed Mayumashu 01:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is still ambiguous. How many generations back does the descent remain relevant. Does one Brazilian great-grandmother count, or do both the British person's parents have to have been Brazilian or what?Valiantis 22:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well without definition, any number would count of course and even this would still provide a quite short list for British with Brazilian or Croat(ian) roots. stating on the cat page that 1/4 or better ethnicity qualifies would provide an arbitrary definition that suffices on a number of category pages (including many like American ones) and of course with Irish descent, a line does need to be drawn given the number of people with some ancestry. i d say the other point you have raised (above) that the terms lack currency in the U.K. is the only solid one to make the case against on. i appreciate at any rate the discussion that s come up on the matter and will add a note to the British people by ethnic or national origin page telling of how only a few categories of potential categories are given currency in the U.K. so users don t wonder why the list of sub-cats is so short Mayumashu 14:54, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:British Chinese to Category:Chinese-British people

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The result of the debate was withdrawn --William Allen Simpson 02:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename. Despite the prevalence of the name in common usage (it gets 40 times a yahoo search hits) and that this is often the basis used here for naming, Britons of Chinese descent are British people first, of Chinese descent and the name should reflect this. Mayumashu 06:08, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment, came across something like this before elsewhere with "British Asian", which was noted there as being the opposite way round but with a similar meaning to "African-American". Also, some would probably argue that it should be "Sino-British", or "Anglo-Chinese" too. Tricky... Without clear evidence that one is widely preferred to or considered more correct than the other it might not be worth changing. Deizio 15:00, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose "Chinese-British" is an unambiguous Americanism. See the British Chinese society website Bhoeble 16:15, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as per Bhoeble. This was the subject of a previous vote here. "Chinese" is recognised as a ethnicity in the United Kingdom census and other government statistics, hence it seems reasonable to allow it as its meaning is reasonably clear and it is clearly not a neologism. (Or as I previously commented: - The UK census allows people to group themselves into the following ethnic groups and subgroups [2]: White (subgroups = White British; White Irish; White Other); Mixed (subgroups = White and Black Caribbean; White and Black African; White and Asian; Mixed Other); Asian or Asian British (subgroups = Indian; Pakistani; Bangladeshi; Asian Other); Black or Black British (Caribbean; African; Black Other); Chinese or Other ethnic group (subgroups = Chinese; Other). The 'Other' subgroups allow the respondent to write in a specific ethnic group. (NB in British official usage Asian refers to people from the Indian sub-continent. People from East Asia are Chinese or Other). As long as a person continues to identify themselves as ethnically Chinese they remain Chinese as an ethnicity rather than a nationality. If they have British citizenship, they are of course British by nationality. Hence British Chinese). Valiantis 21:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as per Bhoeble. Driller thriller 22:32, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Let the Americans be consistent with us if they want. Personally I would prefer to delete every single ethnic category, but that is a lost cause. CalJW 00:09, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

nomination withdrawn to avoid piling on and getting hurt! Mayumashu 01:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Winter War operations and battles to Category:Battles and operations of the Winter War

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The result of the debate was rename. Syrthiss 13:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Standard naming convention for sub-categories of Category:Battles by war. Kirill Lokshin 06:02, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Continuation War operations and battles to Category:Battles and operations of the Continuation War

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The result of the debate was rename. Syrthiss 13:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Standard naming convention for sub-categories of Category:Battles by war. Kirill Lokshin 06:02, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Cellulose derivates to Category:Cellulose

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The result of the debate was rename. Syrthiss 13:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename since "derivates" (not "derivatives") is unnecessarily technical and there is no general category for cellulose. I decided to make the nomination after seeing Cotton in the category when both the cotton and cellulose articles say that cotton is nearly pure cellulose, not a "derivate". Mike Dillon 05:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Swedish scholars to Category:Swedish academics

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Syrthiss 13:44, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No vote As below, this is to confirm that the current naming is indeed "correct" (as many cat pages including Category:British academics have been named using "academics" and not "scholars") and not a "poor translation". if it is British English to prefer "scholar" when including modern academics then i ll support a rename (i m not British). Mayumashu 03:12, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the list as it stands only contains academics - the nomination is to shift the list as a whole to avoid having to hand-do each page to a more accurate cat page while creating an empty cat page for Swedish scholars that will later need to be deleted. apologies for not explaining this and perhaps i owe an apology too for not just doing the work by-hand Mayumashu 15:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Pakistani scholars to Category:Pakistani academics

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Syrthiss 13:44, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or reverse merge. these should be merged and i suspect this is the right way. Irish, Scots, Welsh seem generally to prefer scholar to academic from what i ve read and i don t know about English (and therefore if this is matter of British English versus North American). what i do know is that the list includes modern academics and therefore belongs linked to Category:Academics by nationality Mayumashu 02:59, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong oppose Have a look at the articles and you will see that both options are inappropriate. I am thinking of nominating all the "scholars" categories for merging, but into the writers categories, not the academics categories. The idea that all scholars are academics is a contemporary campus-centric view, and it is quite incorrect. Bhoeble 16:20, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment What have you read that suggests Irish, Scots and Welsh prefer "scholars"? If we're talking about people who work in higher education, then the term "academic" seems to be standard British and Hibernian English. "Scholar" suggests either a general (and possibly rather arch) term for a learned person or a person who wrote scholarly works back in the days before learning was institutionalised. Valiantis 00:18, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
a user's comments and that these cat pages where named with "scholar" Mayumashu 15:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Irish academics to Category:Irish scholars

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The result of the debate was withdrawn --William Allen Simpson 02:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge as it is apparently common to refer to modern academics as scholars in Ireland (and Scotland and Wales). i ve included an explanation on the page explaining this, made the link to Category:Academics by nationality, and removed the direct link to Category:Scholars which collects Cat:Academics, other modern yet non-Academic scholars (mostly theologians), and classical / pre-modern academia scholars Mayumashu 02:47, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Can you show a source for this assertion? I have no first hand experience of Irish academia but I did work in a Welsh university and I can assure you no one used the term "scholar" to refer to the academic staff. The word "academics" seems to be used regularly on the Information for Academics page of Trinity College Dublin, in this new story on the University College Dublin website, in this news article on the Dublin City University website, on the Academics and Staff homepage of the University College Cork website, and the Academics and Staff homepage of the National University of Ireland, Galway website. The NUI Galway and UCC websites, when searched for the word "scholars" produce respectively a nil response and links to the word "scholarship" (i.e. money for students). Searching the DCU and UCD sites does produce hits on the word "scholars" so it is clear that it is sometimes used in at least some Irish universities, but not exclusively instead of academics and not in all universities. At Trinity College "Scholars" are a particular type of student see here or WP's own article. I therefore see nothing to be gained and much to be lost from merging these two cats as you propose. Valiantis 00:53, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
as it is Category:Irish scholars lists mainly those that the sites you checked (much appreciated too) would name academics. perhaps i should withdraw the nomination and do a big purge Mayumashu 01:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It looks to me like someone has used the word "scholar" in a sense that is not unreasonable (i.e. "learned person") but which is contrary to general WP practice for the Irish cat and then this has been extrapolated to Scotland and thence to Wales. "Academics" is certainly not a foreign usage in Ireland, Wales and Scotland, so I suspect that the rename should be to "Academics" for all three cats (presuming that there should even be separate cats for Wales and Scotland....). Valiantis 22:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
okay. i ll withdraw this nomination and nominate all three to go from scholar to academic. again the checking up you ve done is appreciated Mayumashu 15:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

nomination withdrawn in light of info uncovered by User:Valiantis. Mayumashu 00:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:WTO members to Category:World Trade Organization member economies

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The result of the debate was rename. Syrthiss 13:46, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The "Economy of" articles are categorised here rather than the country articles, so the existing name is misleading. The abbreviation should also go. Rename CalJW 00:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC).[reply]


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