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I tried to run MWT but it crashes with a Run-Time Error 5 after I try to log in. Are you able to help me or am I doing something wrong? Thanks in Advance. PookeyMaster (talk) 07:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Michael is not much around. I have tried to run MWT, and it just suddently closes for me. I mean, I open it, it stays open for 6-7 seconds and then it's closed. Snowolf How can I help? 09:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Atleast I'm not the only one then... PookeyMaster (talk) 03:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

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double standards

If you emphasis on the 3RR rules, why don't you block the user:Huaiwei? here below is his 3RR reverts over the topic of Changi International Airport.

  • 1st revert: [1]
  • 2nd revert: [2]
  • 3rd revert: [3]
  • 4th revert: [4]

isn't 3RR already and clearly broke (more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period)? I hope it is not a selective punishment/warning! Coloane (talk) 09:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Look-- you've both broken 3RR, but nobody needs to be blocked if the two of you can stop edit warring and discuss. I've left a warning for Huaiwei regarding this as well. --Michael Billington (talk) 10:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
No, I didn't break 3RR, in strictly speaking. The first of my edit over that topic is clearly not a revert. Please refer to Wiki-Admin noticeboard-3RR. I already explained and reported in earlier time. Thanks a lot! Coloane (talk) 10:26, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Re:3RR warning regarding Singapore Changi Airport article

Thank you for the timely warning. I have full faith that basic logic and the consensus-building culture of wikipedia will eventually prevail.--Huaiwei (talk) 10:33, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

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Nuvola apps important blue.svg Thanks for uploading Image:Turbo C++ 3.0.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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Deleted. --Michael Billington (talk) 11:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

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Currently Kraft Foods page shows this for me. (1/25 11:20pm central time)

Kraft is now an independent publicly held company. In 2004, Kraft donated 1.2 million dollars to the Taliban.

Since you were recently updating this page and i dont know how you report stuff to be removed please remove this, unless that is there intentionally in which case it should be cited? and probably not be in the opening description. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cashkennedy (talkcontribs) 05:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

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President of Council of Italy

Hi! I tried to edit the infobox of Silvio Berlusconi because he was President of Council for three times (not two), but I can't: can you help me? Moreover I notice that in the list of the Presidents of Council, everytime one of them has two consecutive offices, it doesn't appear. For example: Berlusconi was president from 2001 to 2005 and from 2005 to 2006. But here it seems he was president only one time from 2001 to 2006. Paolotacchi (talk) 16:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I've fixed up the infobox on the Silvio Berlusconi article. As for the list of Italian Prime Ministers, I've made a post on the talk page suggesting that we change the page. If others agree, then I'll fix that up too. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. --Michael Billington (talk) 01:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Images

Thanks for actually answering my tremendously stupid question about the images. :) ~ Bella Swan 01:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. :) --Michael Billington (talk) 02:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

TOR block of 121.155.134.110

Hey, I noticed that you've blocked 121.155.134.110, as a TOR node, which, it is no longer. I was wondering, if you'd consider either allowing me to unblock it, or, unblocking it yourself please. SQLQuery me! 09:39, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I've unblocked it. Have a nice day. --Michael Billington (talk) 10:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Mike's Wiki Tool 0.9.4

Hi! I have been using MWT 0.9.4 for the last few days, have made several hundred edits with it, and like it very much. It seems however that it does not have any function for reporting a user who has had a final warning to AIV. I was wondering if you might be adding this feature to a future update? Also the colour bar turns orange for a user with previous blocks, so I thought perhaps there should be a colour code for users with previous warnings. Thank you for your time. Hennessey, Patrick (talk) 04:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I am hoping that these features will be added at some point in the future. Unfortunately, other wikis do not operate the same way as far as AIV goes, and the current codebase (which is quite different to the the current release) is being made to work cross-wiki, which makes it a little more complicated. I'm hoping when I have a bit of extra time I can add this though. And thanks for the other suggestion-- why didn't I think of that! Cheers. --Michael Billington (talk) 08:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I will be looking forword to these updates. And one more thing I thought of: When the program picks a new edit for me to check, alot of the time it is not the top edit and therefore is not an edit I can fix if needed, so if possible, perhaps MWT could recognise a non-top edit and either move to that article's newest edit or go to another edit altogether? Thanks again. Hennessey, Patrick (talk) 00:36, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
This one's a known problem. It's because MWT only looks at anonymous edits that this hasn't been fixed yet. I need to re-write the recent changes code to fetch all edits from the recent changes IRC channel so that it can figure this out. But I am working on it. (Also-- the whole thing is going to have to be re-written very soon because the developers are removing query.php, so a lot of new features will have to wait). --Michael Billington (talk) 03:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, thanks for responding so quickly. Hennessey, Patrick (talk) 10:14, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, I've commented at Wikipedia talk:MWT#Userbox. Please take a look.Thank you--NAHID 07:50, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Replied there. --Michael Billington (talk) 06:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hey, sorry I didn't get to talk to you more on Saturday! Thanks for coming along. :)

Are you able to come along on Sunday? cheers, pfctdayelise (talk) 12:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Heya. Yes I'll be there on Sunday. See you there =] --Michael Billington (talk) 05:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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I was going over the list of bots and noticed that MichaelBillingtonBot (talk · contribs) has not edited in a very long time. Is this bot still active and if not, would you object to it being de-flagged? Please post your comments to Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Requests_for_approval#Dead_bots since this is a rather widely-posted message. MBisanz talk 06:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

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What is the OTRS procedure for permissions?

I am currently looking into the ORTS permissions process and saw on meta:OTRS#Permissions that you were one of the people to whom OTRS slips could be sent. Thus, if someone wanted to approve their images to be used on Wikipedia, what precisely should they do? I.e., where do they click, what do they write etc.? Is the process any different for sound files? Also, if person x gets permission from person y to use person y's images/music/whatever on person x's website etc., does person x then have the right to give permission for person y's stuff to be used on Wikipedia, or would person y have to give additional permission?

Also, in my particular case, I am interested in putting screenshots back onto the Europa Barbarorum article (they were deleted previously due to not having free-use templates). I know that videogames' screenshots need {{non-free screenshot}} on their image pages, but as Europa Barbarorum is a modification that is available for download online for free (although it does require Rome: Total War to play, which is obviously a commercial PC game), does it count as free software, and constantly would a {{free screenshot}} template do? Thanks! It Is Me Here (talk) 19:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello. Unfortunately, due to copyright etc, image use on Wikipedia is quite complicated. I apologise in advance for the length of this message :)
First of all, free software and freeware are not the same thing. Free software refers to the user's freedom to copy, modify, redistribute, or even sell copies of the software and associated source code without restriction. Freeware is quite different: It allows users to use it for free. (A bit more detail can be found at gratis versus libre if I haven't explained it well enough)
Europa Barbarorum is freeware. In order for images to be tagged with {{free screenshot}}, not only does the programme have to be free, but all media shown in the screenshot must also be under a free licence. (I took a peek at their reuse policy and it is quite far from this[5]). This means that the screenshots can't be included in the article unless the authors of the game and modification are willing to relicense it (which is very unlikely, seeing as the game which this is a mod of is recent and commercial), or if it is of some importance regarding critical sections of the article which are actually about how it looks. An example of this might be a screenshot to illustrate a glitch or error, but generally not screenshots for illustrative purposes only. (Wikipedia:Non-free content is a guideline on this)
Giving permission for images to be used on Wikipedia also has to do with the copyright holder granting freedom for anyone to use/modify/redistribute the image, not just Wikipedia. If permission is given by the copyright holder to use an image on another site, that permission does not extend to Wikipedia, and even getting permission for it to be used on Wikipedia is not sufficient. The copyright holder has to actually release the image under a free licenses, or into the Public domain (simply releasing all copyright). The process for requesting permission is outlined in brief here. If the copyright holder wants to release an image of their own accord (rather than being asked by a Wikipedia user), then the easiest way is for them to create an account and upload it themself, with a copyright tag appropriate to how they wish to licence the image.
I hope I've answered all of your questions! Wikipedia does have quite strict media copyright policy, but try not to let it deter you. "A picture is worth a thousand words"— so even if we can't use any screenshots then hopefully we can still have some brilliant prose for our users to read instead. :) --Michael Billington (talk) 06:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! It Is Me Here (talk) 18:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

the Sydney Journal

Hi there, Just thought I'd drop you, and others from the recent meetup, a line and mention that the first edition of the Dictionary of Sydney's online, peer-reviewed journal is now live.

The Sydney Journal is the first (and most academically rigorous) "product" of the Dictionary. It will be a quarterly publication with a variety of texts from upcoming Dictionary articles and is hosted by UTS E-press. This edition features 4 thematic articles, 6 ethnicities and 5 suburbs - all specifically related to Sydney.

I hope you find it useful and interesting - If nothing else it's essays are eminently referenceable for their corresponding articles here on WP.

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Thanks :) --Michael Billington (talk) 06:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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  • check usage - Barnstar.png -> Original_Barnstar.png (+100)
  • check usage - Barnstar2.png -> Editors_Barnstar.png (2)
  • check usage - Barnstar3.png -> Barnstar_of_Diligence.png (32)
  • check usage - Raok_barnstar.png -> Random_Acts_of_Kindness_Barnstar.png (63)
  • check usage - Surreal_barnstar.png -> Surreal_Barnstar.png (1)
  • check usage - Barnstar-rotating.gif -> Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif (68)
  • check usage - Resilient-silver.png -> Resilient_Barnstar.png (6)
  • check usage - WMBarnstar.png -> Working_Man's_Barnstar.png (40)

These are the changes an admin should make as bots are not allowed to edit the said pages because they are either too complicated for bots or are in protected pages. -- Cat chi? 10:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, thanks, I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun with that(!) --Michael Billington (talk) 01:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

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