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The Clash article has been rated as GA-Class[edit]

The Music Barnstar
I award the Music Barnstar to Wwwhatsup for your great job on The Clash article. –pjoef (talkcontribs) 09:07, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry but I just can't accept it. My input was minimal, whereas you have slogged day in day out for months. I am in turn awarding this star to you. Wwwhatsup (talk) 16:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You must accept the barnstar! You deserve it for all the great jobs you did (and you are doing) on that article and on all other articles related to The Clash and the underground music scene too. And, for sorting out images and (great) videos, reverting vandalism, and many other jobs you are doing on Wikipedia. Anyway, I checked out the last 500 edits on that article and I gave the barnstar to the most active wikipedians/contributors (check this out). Sometimes, the simple action to revert vandalism is better than to write a new "crap" section. Consider this barnstar as a cumulative award. Thank you so very much Wwwhatsup for the barnstar! Wish you are doing well. Take care and all the best. –pjoef (talkcontribs) 09:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will, grudgingly, and with thanks, accept it for my general efforts over an active period late last, and early this, year. Recently I haven't had the time. Wwwhatsup (talk) 19:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Legacy addition to hippie[edit]

How do you feel about adding Gerald de Groot's criticism and Hatch's response to the legacy section? I think it would work really well to balance out any NPOV concerns. Let me know. Viriditas (talk) 10:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm interested to see how you will manage to summarize it all. Wwwhatsup (talk) 19:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've been looking at other articles for representing de Groot. First, I'm trying to get my mind around it. On the one hand, de Groot seems to be making borderline fallacious arguments; for example, trying to draw a negative parallel between scholars who call the countercultural shift a "cultural revolution" and the real, murderous cultural revolution of Mao Zedong. From what I've read, de Groot's comparison is almost unbearable and very unfair. But, he makes a really great point about those who mythologize history, and that's something we should definitely include. How would you summarize Hatch's response? Viriditas (talk) 02:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mick Farren[edit]

You made me a little ashamed by doing what I ought to have done. I was mainly removing unverifiable categories, but you can't help seeing other stuff that needs done, and I was too lazy to do it. So thanks. --John (talk) 03:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't have necessarily cut his blog from the EL's but I'm not going to reverse you. Wwwhatsup (talk) 16:51, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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David Andrew Sitek[edit]

Well it's written right there in the article: Magazine "NME" for May 2008. No need to add a reference to the end if everything is already written inside the article, no? Paluv (talk) 21:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

responded on Paluv's talk page. Wwwhatsup (talk) 01:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Williamsburg, Brooklyn[edit]

Thanks! Though I have no idea how to improve the music scene section. --Mosmof (talk) 03:39, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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GOLDBLADE[edit]

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Question re: uploading a photo[edit]

Hello- I noticed you uploaded the photo of Patti D'Arbanville from either the PUNKCAST video of the reading of Pamela Des Barres' latest book, or from You Tube. Is it acceptable to do so? Does it not violate our copyright rules, or..? Also, I had read someplace in uploading photos that they shouldn't be done with writing (even the name of the person) across the front, as it would confuse some international Wikipedians. If you DO know about copyright rules here, I really would like to upload a couple of album covers from an artist who hasn't put out an album since 1974 and who has been out of circulation. I've found perfect small versions to upload but am unsure of the rules regarding this. Can you assist me? --leahtwosaints (talk) 21:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is my own photo, I shot that video. As far as the album covers go, it is possible to argue that they are of historical significance or that their is sufficient graphic notability in the style to render them fair use, but it's very possible they will fall to deletionist zealotry. I suggest justidious use of the Template:Non-free use rationale to justify any upload. Wwwhatsup (talk) 21:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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SoxBot II (talk) 02:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have made significant changes to The Clash discography taking my cue from the Faith No More discography and other discographies rated as a Featured list. I think it is a little bit too long and repetitive. If you can, take a look at it (when and if you have a chance).
I take this opportunity to  Wish You a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! pjoef (talkcontribs) 12:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image permission problem with Image:Ari-Up.jpg[edit]

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 Done Wwwhatsup (talk) 22:31, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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SoxBot II (talk) 03:08, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BP Fallon[edit]

^ this article is still very thread-bare after two years and not much info on his photography. Just thought I'd mention it as you seem to be on first name terms. Jaqian (talk) 14:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


It's a good point. He's back in Dublin now so I don't see him much. I've got an idea that he's working on the photos tho. Please feel free to add to the article. Wwwhatsup (talk) 22:42, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The reason why I placed this tag is because the YouTube links you added as sources (which aren't really reliable, by the way) are taken from your own YouTube account. THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 16:33, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response here

re. The Cool Ruler[edit]

Thanks, there's still a lot of work to do here on reggae articles if someone like Isaacs can have the article he had before. I stopped short of trying to list all his singles - a near-impossible task I would have thought. I couldn't find a half-decent free photo of him anywhere. We might get away with a promo shot from a press kit or similar if one can be found. There are also still lots of big names in reggae who don't have articles here - I've added Soul Syndicate and Ken Parker (musician) today. --Michig (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the Keith Hudson article needed a bit of help too. I haven't found a lot of "classic era" video footage on YouTube, but the videos of people spinning classic rare old 45's are very handy. I keep meaning to have a good go at the Dennis Brown article - I have some good sources but it could end up being a big job. --Michig (talk) 20:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Daryl Jenifer[edit]

I redirected it boldly because it was a very short, unreferenced article that didn't assert notability outside of the band that Daryl is a member of. That's pretty common practice for members of a band: redirect unless they have sufficient notability for a standalone article. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 15:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for June 2009[edit]

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SoxBot (talk) 22:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Too speedy for me! I've undeleted it and forwarded consent to OTRS. Wwwhatsup (talk) 21:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have any control over the admin's speed!
However I do notice that there are several more such video stills in the File space, can I suggest you forward consent to OTRS as well? Otherwise they might suffer the same fate if someone else sees them. I've made a quick list of the ones I found below for you (there may be more, this was just a quick search)  Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Good lookin' out! I've sent one multiple consent. I trust that will work. Wwwhatsup (talk) 23:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for July 2009[edit]

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Inquiry[edit]

An editor commenting on the genre/subgenre issue of the article Straight Outta Compton is interested in advice for a resolution. Do u mind checking it out? (See Talk:Straight Outta Compton) Dan56 (talk) 03:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have no expertise in this area. Wwwhatsup (talk) 11:33, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for August 2009[edit]

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SoxBot (talk) 15:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jolie, hope you are well! Yes, I do not like it either, but I do not know the "naming conventions" very well. User:AEMoreira042281 did it [1]. And, when I found that change, I updated all links. I will change them back soon. Thanks for your message. Take care and all the best. –pjoef (talkcontribs) 08:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ;) –pjoef (talkcontribs) 10:54, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly unfree File:1178-06homo09.jpg[edit]

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Consent sent to OTRS. Wwwhatsup (talk) 03:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gong (band)[edit]

Hi Wwwhatsup, I have undone your edit, please see Talk:Gong_(band)#Unreferenced_text_about_band_split and let's discuss the subject there if needed. Regards, BNutzer (talk) 21:18, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Irving Place-Pygmalion NYT articles[edit]

Wwwhatsup, thank you for the heads-up at Talk: Pygmalion back on April 1 regarding the two NYT articles on the 1914 premiere at the Irving Place Theatre. The information you directed us to has made it into the article, at long last. (Yes, the "probably findable" article shows the premiere was indeed delayed, by nine days.)

This is fantastic! It does have quite a history. Thank you again for the very valuable addition to Pygmalion. -- LaNaranja (talk) 23:22, 21 April 2010 (UTC)I[reply]