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November 8

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Category:Cape Verde–United Kingdom relations

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Nominator's rationale: Category containing no main article and no articles at all. Subcategories already exist in sufficient category trees. Empty category is unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 09:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More participation needed to form consensus
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confederation of the Rhine

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Nominator's rationale: rename and purge, from 1806 to 1813 Germany was called Confederation of the Rhine but it did not include Austria and Prussia. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Large nomination; allowing extra time for objections.
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Category:Warner Robins, GA Metropolitan Statistical Area

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Nominator's rationale: Highly overlapping categories, that aren't helpful for navigation SMasonGarrison 12:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on UnitedStatesian's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the alternative for Warner is delete. SMasonGarrison 12:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Boxborough, Massachusetts

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Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and a redirect, not useful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 17:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Namiba's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chemical looping technologies

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Nominator's rationale: From previous discussions and new research (from article), these specific technologies look to be chemical processes meant to act as a method of carbon capture. @DMacks I would appreciate input regarding the chemistry side — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChemicalBear (talk • contribs) 21:45, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was some pre-discussion on my talk page about procedural stuff. Pinging participants from the previous discussion: @Marcocapelle, DMacks, and Smasongarrison. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment in the United States

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Nominator's rationale: Purge as well as merge. This is a new category which duplicates another and also conflates Judaism and Israel. User:Namiba 16:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Novara Media

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Nominator's rationale: Little more than a WP:PERFCAT. Association with individuals listed is undefined, see WP:OCASSOC. --woodensuperman 16:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Family of William Jennings Bryan

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Nominator's rationale: William Jennings Bryan was one of many notable family members so I think centering him is not the best way forward. It is Category:Bryan family (William Jennings Bryan family) in Wikimedia Commons. User:Namiba 15:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question: are other categories on Wikipedia named like you're proposing? SMasonGarrison 00:01, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there are some. See Category:Eliot family (United States) and Category:Morton family (United States).--User:Namiba 19:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This appears to be a fairly common formulation for categories relating to relatives or other topics concerning famous individuals, such as presidents of the United States, industrialists, etc. The proposed alternative, "Bryan family", would tend to attract unrelated persons named "Bryan" unless formulated as in Wikimedia Commons. However, that formulation seems rather pedantic—though it may well have a good reason for being so in that case, since there are probably quite a lot of photographs relating to William Jennings Bryan and his family, and it might be the product of a merger between related categories. There is no compelling reason why the corresponding category at Wikipedia needs to use the same formulation, though it may be advantageous to link the categories. The current title here is clear, concise, and logical. Let's keep it where it is. P Aculeius (talk) 17:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fooian-century Fooian male/women classical pianists

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Nominator's rationale: I don't think we need to diffuse at the 5-way intersection of nationality, gender, century, instrument, and genre, especially since there isn't a FOOian-century male classical pianists or FOOian-century women classical pianists parent. SMasonGarrison 12:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pleuronectiformes

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Nominator's rationale: The flatfish are now considered to be a subgroup of Carangiformes by recent sources (including Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes, which the fish wikiproject has decided to follow). —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 10:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Pleuronectiformes-stub

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Nominator's rationale: See post above for justification. And the stub category should be moved to Category:Pleuronectoidei stubs. —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 10:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional space units and formations

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Nominator's rationale: Only has one actual space unit, Starfleet. The others are just fiction that happens to contain a space organization, but this fails WP:NONDEF. Depending on whether one might consider Starfleet "military", it could just be moved to Category:Fictional government agencies or Category:Fictional organizations. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fuji TV

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 14#Category:Fuji TV

Category:Fictional astronomical objects

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Nominator's rationale: Seems to be somewhat redundant, no real evidence we need a category for objects specifically as it is hardly populated. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Librarians from Puerto Rico

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Puerto Rican librarians. C2C speedy. The Bushranger One ping only 04:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Aligning with other subcategories of Category:Puerto Rican people by occupation ForsythiaJo (talk) 00:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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November 7

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Category:Rutulian male boxers

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Nominator's rationale: Set of one-entry categories for a not-inherently notable intersection of characteristics. Rutuls are an ethnic group who live in Dagestan or Azerbaijan, not a "nationality" in their own right, but these were all created as nationality categories and had to be moved out of incorrect "X by nationality" parents -- but "ethnicity intersected with occupation" categories are not automatically created for every possible combination of those traits that describes just one person, so these aren't warranted until there are a lot more than just one person to file in each of them.
The existing Category:Rutul people (which also won't be large enough to need diffusion even with these people moved into it) is all that's required in the meantime. Bearcat (talk) 21:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:20th-century explorers from the Russian Empire

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Nominator's rationale: Was opposed at speedy by @Altenmann: by the creator a similarly named user, in spite of the fact that there is no other category in Category:20th-century Russian people by occupation that uses the Russian Empire naming convention SMasonGarrison 20:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People charged with crimes

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Nominator's rationale: This category's existence seems like a pretty blatant WP:BLPCRIME violation. We should not associate or categorize people with crimes unless they are convicted and it's a major point of notability for them. Di (they-them) (talk) 18:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I concur with the nom... I noticed this category from Category:People criminally charged for acts during the January 6 United States Capitol attack which is fairly dubious considering the existence of Category:Convicted participants in the January 6 United States Capitol attack. Also note that the latter category (Suspected criminals) was discussed 7 years ago with no consensus. Reconrabbit 19:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional planets by work

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Nominator's rationale: There are only two categories in here now, making it fairly small. I posit that these two subcategories should be merged into Fictional planets, at least until way more exist (if ever). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Buildings and structures by decade of destruction

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a bunch more years
a bunch more decades
a bunch more centuries
a bunch more sports venues
Nominator's rationale: Following up from [[3]], we've completely messed this up, and we need to revert it. I only saw this due to my watch list and asked the closer about it, who told me to file a new CSD.

First "Demolish" means to "to completely destroy a building, especially in order to use the land for something else," meaning that it does encompass buildings which are destroyed non-voluntarily, whereas "destroy" means to "damage beyond use." It's pedantic, but the "completely" is important here. Secondly, a "destroyed" building in usage typically means a building that was rendered useless due to some sort of external factor. A quick search shows "destroyed in fire", discussion of building collapses, or discussion about the process of demolition. There's a reason building infoboxes uses "demolished" for date instead of "destroyed..." - it is a far more precise term.

Furthermore buildings can be either demolished, destroyed, or both. As an example, the Hotel Grand Chancellor, Christchurch was destroyed in 2011 by the earthquake, but not demolished until 2012. A castle may have been destroyed in one century and the ruins demolished in another century. A building completely destroyed by fire or bombed would not have been demolished, whereas a voluntarily demolished building was not destroyed.

I do agree with renaming the top level category, but I've categorised a lot of these, and I believe we desperately need to restore these categories for buildings which were voluntarily demolished, for the same reason we have separate categories for collapsed buildings. Destroyed buildings should have their own separate category structure. SportingFlyer T·C 16:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment/Question The last discussion was closed earlier today, so I'm not sure if a consensus is likely to be reversed so soon. Is there a broader term that more clearly conveys the intent of including both the deliberate and unintentional end to buildings? RevelationDirect (talk) 17:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The closer recommended another CfD, I think in part because we'd have to un-do all of these. (Interestingly, I was only pinged after I opened this discussion - I would have strongly opposed the change in the other discussion.) We had separate categories by year for both demolished buildings and collapsed buildings, so essentially my proposal is to revert this back to demolished, which definitionally encompasses destroyed, and is a more precise term. The next step would be to create a separate structure for burned/bombed buildings by year/decade/et cetera.
    The category is in desperate need of organisation, reverting would be the first step. SportingFlyer T·C 17:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let me explain the reason why I opened the previous nomination for renaming. On Wikipedia there were no other categories by year/decade/century to display buildings that ceased to exist. The only common root we have is Category:Former buildings and structures with no split by dates. So I assumed that these categories were freely populated. I checked the cases where the infobox said 'Destroyed' (given that you can specify both the destruction and the demolition date), but the article was placed in the "Demolished by year" category. And I found pretty enough cases, for example Metropolitan Building (Minneapolis) or see this restricted search. I've also checked 1942-1944 categories and found some buildings that were destroyed during WWII, but were demolished years later, but the article was still categorised by the destruction date, such as Lafayette transmitter. Or St. Florian's Cathedral that was destroyed in 1944, but not demolished, and still placed in the category. I also said at the time that the root category had the description 'deliberately demolished' at the top, which had been there from the start of the category in 2006. So I concluded that this was not being followed and that these categories were being filled in freely, being just the opposite of the date of construction of the buildings. I still think it is better to leave them as they are now. And I'm not sure it's worth categorising by both the date of destruction and the date of demolition at the same time (due to WP:OVERCAT), because the moment when a building burns down or is destroyed seems to be more relevant to the encyclopaedia than the moment when its site was formally cleared and emptied by administrative authorities. Solidest (talk) 18:01, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree. Christchurch, NZ is a great example - the Hotel Grand Chancellor, Christchurch was destroyed (rendered beyond repair) in 2011, but demolished in 2012. We currently have it as "destroyed in 2012." You are also incorrect, there are separate category structures for different types of buildings ceasing to exist - see Category:Building and structure collapses by year as a separate directory structure. These buildings were "destroyed" but not "demolished." I agree with you - "destroyed" could be spun out from "demolished," but as I've said before "demolished" DOES definitionally encompass "destroyed." I also don't see any issue with Lafayette transmitter, as the final demolition date was 1953. SportingFlyer T·C 18:25, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The Lafayette transmitter was destroyed in 1953, but people put the 1944 category by the date of destruction, that's the problem. My whole post above is about people putting burned/destroyed/collapsed/demolished dates into these categories without giving meaning to the type of destruction. I'd probably agree that "destroyed" isn't the perfect word to cover all these cases either, but the categories obviously don't just include demolished buildings. Somewhere you corrected the demolition dates, but many other people, like in my examples above, put random destruction cases in there. "Collapses" also doesn't fit here as a generalised term, as it's more about buildings falling down on their own. Solidest (talk) 18:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Surprisingly it turns out that it was you yourself who put in the Lafayette transmitter the date of the destruction instead of the demolition a year ago which only emphasises the problem with these categories, as this is far from being an individual incident. Solidest (talk) 18:52, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's not surprising. I've categorised a lot of these, and the sources specify that the station as "destroyed" in 1944 but the "final pylon" was demolished in 1953. (There's a chance that article wouldn't survive an AfD, either.) The Metropolitan Building (Minneapolis) was demolished, the infobox needs to be updated. Infobox building has two options: demolition_date, the "Date building was demolished"; and destruction_date, the "Date building was destroyed, generally by a natural event or war." These are separate. Just because users sometimes aren't accurate isn't a reason to make an entire category structure less accurate. SportingFlyer T·C 19:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well when you have a choice between demolished or collapsed for cases like World War II or for natural disasters or other incidents, it's not the inaccuracy of people, it's the lack of choice for almost 20 years that causes the category to lose meaning from the original according to its content. Solidest (talk) 19:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Even if this remains as an all-encompassing category, "demolished" is still a much better definitional descriptor than "destroyed" as I've pointed out previously. I still maintain the correct thing to do, similar to the info box, is to split this out, but that would require reversion. SportingFlyer T·C 20:11, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Amend back Sorry but the original change from Demolition to Destruction is just nonsense. They are clearly two different meanings. Demolition is when a building is purposefully taken down either due to structural failure or building something else on the site. You would not say that Wembley Stadium was destroyed in 2003 to make way for the new Webley Stadium. Destruction is when something is deliberately destroyed by humanity or is destroyed by an act of nature. Therefore the original closure to destroyed is just silly and inaccurate use of the English Language (no matter what side of the pond you are on).Davidstewartharvey (talk) 18:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Why not split? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I lot of these years are already pretty thin; I was hoping for a broad term. (Not sure if that's the consensus though.) RevelationDirect (talk) 18:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A split would be great, I'd be happy to work on that, but if we agree to a split these need to be reverted as the vast majority of these buildings were demolished and not destroyed. SportingFlyer T·C 18:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My only concern with a split would be that we may find contentious arguments of what is demolished and what was destroyed. I am now leaning to change it to "demolished or destroyed", which covers both angles.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 09:02, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A lot of time a fire/hurricane/earthquake damages a building so it's not feasible to repair, then what's left is demolished. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:10, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The destruction date and demolition date could be different, too. If it's a year apart, we probably just want the destruction date, but if there's a castle which was razed in the 17th century and then the ruins demolished 200 years later, we may want to categorise both dates. SportingFlyer T·C 18:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore to status quo ante or however you wish to put it. Demolition is a subset of destruction and this renaming reduced precision.  — Scott • talk 16:45, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Either split, or rename to use demolished or destroyed per Davidstewartharvey's above suggestion. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:EastEnders locations

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Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERCATEGORIZATION that includes only one real article, and a redirect to that same article. Jontesta (talk) 14:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:EastEnders - At least move the one actual article over. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Restaurants in Gwynedd

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Nominator's rationale: Merge also to Category:Buildings and structures in Gwynedd.

Sole remaining subcategory of the Restaurants in Wales tree, contains only two articles one of which is a "self-catering holiday home". AusLondonder (talk) 14:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Catholic bishops in Nigeria

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Nominator's rationale: Both categories seem to cover the same subject Isoceles-sai (talk) 12:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nepal Premier League teams

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Nominator's rationale: Category not needed, as of the 3 articles in there, 1 has previously been deleted and re-created, and the other are at WP:AFD right now. Thus, there are no useful articles for this category, as the team articles are either being deleted or redirected to the main Nepal Premier League article. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:02, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Peplum films

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Nominator's rationale: They basically deal with the same genre, the Sword-and-sandal, which in fact is the main page for both categories, and which says The terms "peplum" and "sword-and-sandal" were used in a condescending way by film critics. Peplum film is currently a redirect to Sword-and-sandal. Cavarrone 09:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Speaking as a connoisseur of cult films, and the terms "peplum" and "sword-and-sandal" are effectively interchangeable in modern film use, rendering the category completely redundant. Carguychris (talk) 16:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians who have received a AfC welcome message

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Wikipedians who have received an AfC welcome message. Speedy rename per criteria C2A. The Bushranger One ping only 19:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: grammar –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:05, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy rename under WP:C2A. jlwoodwa (talk) 08:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Marvel Comics film characters

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Nominator's rationale: This category's description is for "Film characters based on Marvel Comics", although in recent months, it has become populated by an absurd amount of articles for the comic characters themselves, with many of those being for characters only RECENTLY being featured in some mass media. This cat has primarily operated as a holding for the three current subcats which are actually for film adaptations of these characters. This cat is repeatedly readded to articles on the comics versions and I am requesting full deletion as the current subcats handle all relevant media adaptations in film, or, if that does not pass, then I would request this cat to be purged and converted into a formal holding cat. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comment: I would also like to note that the creator of this cat, User:Dietic, has a history of making similar categories as this one for Marvel adaptation characters that were overcategorized on the comics articles and were subsequently deleted in the past few years, many of which may be viewed via their talk page. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Shompen language

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Nominator's rationale: Only subcategory is Category:Linguists of Shompen, which has been nominated for deletion. — Sagotreespirit (talk) 06:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Linguists of Shompen

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Nominator's rationale: The Shompen language is hardly even documented, so it is not possible to be a linguist specializing in Shompen. Blench and Sidwell, the only two linguists in the category, only wrote brief papers speculating on the classification of Shompen based on some earlier poorly presented materials. — Sagotreespirit (talk) 06:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Battle royale

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Nominator's rationale: Considering its disparate parents Category:Combat sports and Category:Fiction about death games, it's unclear what the scope of this category is supposed to be, and seems like a case of unrelated subjects with shared names. Since most of the content is about the fiction genre, suggesting to purge Category:Professional wrestling battle royales to Category:Combat sports and rename the remaining category to Category:Battle royale genre, per the relevant section linked to from Battle royale genre. Paul_012 (talk) 06:02, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Caves of Brazil

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Caves of Brazil. The Bushranger One ping only 04:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Does not have use for navigation, all sub cats have 1-2 articles. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 04:08, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,
In my humble opinion, categories are mainly useful for classification.
For navigation, Navigations templates are more suitable.
Thanks for your attention.
BTH (talk) 10:44, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Christianity in Sussex

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Nominator's rationale: Merge and redirect. Most content is at the level of East Sussex and West Sussex, so these are not currently helpful for navigation. Leave redirects to discourage re-creation. – Fayenatic London 11:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comments?
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Category:Aircraft with counter-rotating propellers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are many, many relevant ways to categorize aircraft. This is not one of them. The "handedness" of an aircraft's propellers is, in the vast majority of cases, not a defining trait of an aircraft, for many older types it may be difficult or impossible to determine, and some aircraft types had some variants with "handed" (counter-rotating) propellers, and others without. In short, this isn't something that is defining for an aircraft type, and should not be categorized accordingly. The Bushranger One ping only 02:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Myroslav Skoryk

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous categories with the one "compositions by" subcategories, which contains all related articles to the eponymous subjects, thus this becomes a redundant layer of categorization/navigation. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 02:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets basketball venues

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 04:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A small category which does not help navigation. All articles are already in basketball venues category so a dual merge is not needed. User:Namiba 22:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge or delete?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: See above relisting comment
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:29, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Commment Since it was relisted in order to clarify deletion vs. merge, I don't think this is defining at all, rather than just being a problem with the subcategory, so I'd favor deletion. (A merge would still be preferable to no action though.) @Marcocapelle and Namiba: Note the relisting comment for which your input is appreciated. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am fine with deleting so long as McCamish Pavilion is added to the Georgia Tech basketball category. It is an on-campus arena and basketball is its primary tenant. The other two are not defined by Georgia Tech as they are off-campus general purpose arenas.--User:Namiba 15:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's reasonable. RevelationDirect (talk) 18:15, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American soccer players of Nigerian descent

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Nominator's rationale: I am going to nominate all the Fooian sportspeople of Bar descent cats in due course after all the British ones were upmerged, seems no difference between them and other countries. This one is a level deeper, to a specific sport, and is not defining in any way for either the individuals or their heritage as significant to their sport careers. Crowsus (talk) 00:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Inauguration of Donald Trump

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:First inauguration of Donald Trump. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Well, there's two of them now. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 23:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Presidency of Donald Trump

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). JJPMaster (she/they) 01:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Ugh.

Per the 2024 United States presidential election. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 23:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename Definitely. We should do the same for the other things involved with his tenure too. Vinnylospo (talk) 16:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cities and towns in Kiphire district

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Category:Ikusaka, Nagano

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Category:1500 V DC multiple units of New South Wales

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Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Victoria (state)

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Category:Wives of Charlie Chaplin

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:55, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not needed, Category:Chaplin family exists. The category tree Category:Wives by person is only usually used for royalty as people are not defined by their spouses, and they are notable in their own right. --woodensuperman 09:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There is nothing that limits the category tree to royalty. Dimadick (talk) 09:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the whole tree, only historical figures are usually included in this category. It is not WP:DEFINING for these people as they are notable in their own right. This has only been recently been created, no other entertainers have categories. I don't think this is a precedent we should be encouraging. --woodensuperman 10:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_31#Category:Husbands_of_Elizabeth_Taylor and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_April_6#Category:Husbands_of_Elizabeth_Taylor. --woodensuperman 10:08, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Children of Charlie Chaplin

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Category:Children of Clint Eastwood

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Category:Smooth Network presenters

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The result of the discussion was: delete both. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It seems this category is for presenters of the Smooth Radio stations. However the title is incorrect. Inpops (talk) 16:56, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Tagged Smooth Radio presenters.
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Category:21st-century African-American sportsmen

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus due to a WP:TRAINWRECK. There is a lack of discussion about sources, but I know better than relisting and asking participants to dig through sourcing for various different sports. No prejudice against speedy renomination of smaller groups of categories. And if I may be forgiven for editorializing, I will note that on Wikipedia, vandalism is editing which is disruptive in the mind of the person performing the action. See WP:VAND: Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism (emphasis deleted). HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF. In the 21st century, African Americans predominate in sports. Moreover, most articles do not even mention the subject's ethnicity. We deleted Category:African-American basketball players last year for the same reason. User:Namiba 18:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, this was only created to diffuse the existing male entries at Category:21st-century African-American sportspeople per WP:CATGENDER, equating it to categories created for individual sports is inaccurate, as is suggesting this is some kind of new unsourced categorisation. Crowsus (talk) 18:45, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We should also delete that category as well. Having uncited ethnicity categories is a major BLP issue, no?--User:Namiba 19:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But why delete instead of fix? You've not had a great track record of determining BLP for black athletes. SMasonGarrison 12:11, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support appears to be an outlier given the lack of similar categories for other American ethnicities. Traumnovelle (talk) 18:37, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per nomination. I agree these is non-defining and not particularly useful. I would extend that to all similar sport-specific categories as well. Rikster2 (talk) 22:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:19th-century New Zealand women artists

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Thorough discussion with many voices; unlikely a WP:RELIST will help. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added: Category:Women artists.
Nominator's rationale: Consistency with Category:19th-century_New_Zealand_male_artists Traumnovelle (talk) 18:15, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded rationale female artists is more consistent with the male category, doesn't exclude female artists who are not women (such as children), and is better English: using a proper adjective instead of a noun as an adjective. Traumnovelle (talk) 08:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Athletics MLB Team Wikipedians Category

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The result of the discussion was: Closed as premature/wrong venue. As mentioned, this is a case of where the RM needs to close, and then the category can be C2D'd (along with the userbox that populates it having its category target changed). The Bushranger One ping only 06:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please move Category:Wikipedians interested in the Oakland Athletics to Category:Wikipedians interested in the Athletics because the team name has changed. SportsFan007 (talk) 17:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yacht racing biography stubs to Sailing biography stubs

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Category:Buddhist cave temples in Ladakh

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Buddhist caves in India. The Bushranger One ping only 06:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, these are categories with only one to three articles, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, created before I realized how that section of the guidelines worked.
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 20:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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November 5

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Template:Scombroidei-stub

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Template:Scombriformes-stub. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It would be much better if this stub type covered the whole order instead of just a polyphyletic subtaxon. And the category should be moved to Category:Scombriformes stubs. —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 23:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@The Bushranger: At WP:TFD it says "Stub templates and categories should be listed at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself", so this is actually the right venue. Please reconsider your close. —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 01:55, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, it's been awhile and that had slipped my mind, my apologies. Unclosed accordingly! - The Bushranger One ping only 02:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nippon TV

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Category:CONCACAF Gold Cup stadiums

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 21:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: More clear examples of WP:PERFCAT. User:Namiba 18:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films with a limited theatrical release

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 21:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Is the fact that a film had a limited theatrical release a defining characteristic? DonIago (talk) 14:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. There were some films released in select theaters. Abhiramakella (talk) 16:28, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete, what defines them is that they are Netflix, or Amazon, etc. films and the articles are already categorized as such. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, non-defining and potentially overbroad. Many films have been given a limited release to make the cutoff for the Academy Awards and have then been given a full re-release at a more profitable time of the year, or after a nomination generates buzz. Some have initially been given a limited release as a publicity stunt. Others have been limited artificially by independent or otherwise poor distribution, or by problematic or niche subject matter. Some films originally under the poor-distribution/problematic/niche umbrella have earned a wide release after unexpectedly good box-office returns or "discovery" by a major distributor (often after a similar film unexpectedly makes loads of money). These factors make it difficult to define which films belong in the category. As pointed out by Marcocapelle, the category's author(s) seem to have only considered films released on streaming platforms, which is a relatively recent phenomenon that's more easily defined but already sufficiently covered by other categories. Carguychris (talk) 03:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Further comment: another factor muddying the waters is that most of the world film industry has historically revolved around the United States, and many so-called foreign films produced elsewhere have historically received a "limited" release in the U.S. despite having been widely released in their home countries. This raises a WP:NPOV issue regarding what constitutes "limited", as it's often easy to find American WP:RS sources describing such films as being in limited release, even though this isn't necessarily true—is it limited only in the U.S.? Carguychris (talk) 14:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:GMA Network personalities

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Category:ABS-CBN personalities

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Category:Fictional hamsters

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Category:Websites with far-right material

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The formulation of this category name is problematic. What does it mean to be "with" some kind of material? If a centrist or left-leaning website quotes far-right material to debunk it, is that not a website "with far-right material"? The category description requires that entries in the category be "verified by reliable sources", but does that mean that the sources need to specify that the entries are "with far-right material" rather than being "far-right websites"?
I note that we have no other categories for websites categorized as being "with" some kind of material, and I suspect that there is a reason for this. BD2412 T 15:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am very hesitant about this rename. The point of the current category name is (undoubtedly) that the websites are frequently visited by people with far-right opinions while that does not make them far-right websites per se. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:42, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I fully agree with you that a category named Websites with far-right material is not worth keeping. Yet a lot of the pages currently categorized in Category:Websites with far-right material do not fit in Category:Neo-Nazi websites or Category:Alt-right websites but would fit in Category:Far-right websites, so my endorsement of renaming is a technical trick to ease categorization, nothing more. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 16:39, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well do they fit Category:Far-right websites? I doubt so, at least for a substantial number of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • «Well do they fit Category:Far-right websites?» => Most of them do fit in my opinion: Category:Alt-right websites, Category:Breitbart News, Category:Neo-Nazi websites, Category:WorldNetDaily, (from B to F) Big League Politics, BitChute, Brasil Paralelo, Counterspin Media, The Daily Caller, The Daily Wire, Disclose.tv, Document.no, Freestartr, FrontPage Magazine. Bulli Bai case, DC Inside, Mais qui?, Reddit, do not. Bulli Bai case and Mais qui? fit in a potential Category:Far-right in Internet. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment The corresponding categories in de.wikipedia.org and fr.wikipedia.org are titled Category:Far-right in Internet so there is room for a broader category. See also wikidata:Q2135509. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 14:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per User:Marcocapelle. Existing categories are sufficient to categorize things in an encyclopedic manner. As for broader categorizations, "right" and "far right" are too broadly and incoherently defined in real-world usage to make a coherent category for websites. In addition, one website currently in the category is being discussed about whether far-right is appropriate label for that page. CNMall41 (talk) 21:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Governors of Mexican California

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Governors of Alta California. C2C. The Bushranger One ping only 21:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, consistent with article space, since Mexican California redirects to Alta California. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Canadian Soccer Championship

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Category:National artists of Thailand

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Nominator's rationale: I previously raised objection to the decapitalisation of the category title at WT:CFD, though the reversion process seems to have fallen through the cracks. Anyway, as I mentioned in that discussion, the National Artist title is an award, and directly using the award title for the category does feel a bit unnatural. To compare, we don't refer to Academy Award "Best Actors", but "Best Actor winners". Renaming the category as proposed would better reflect the nature of the title, i.e. its being an award, not a job. Paul_012 (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I think the proposed form matches the general preference at CfD to follow the article title, though I personally dislike parenthesis in category titles when natural disambiguation is possible. So I'll also list Category:National Artist of Thailand awardees, Category:National Artist awardees of Thailand, Category:Thai National Artist awardees, and Category:Thailand National Artist awardees as alternative suggestions. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus favors a rename, though no clear consensus on what the new name should be. In particular, thoughts on Josh's comment (which would imply lowercase-a "National artist")?
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  • (Reply to relisting comment) I think there's agreement on Category:National Artist (Thailand) awardees. Hey man im josh's comment was in favour of lower-case national artists if the term is in plural, but the original proposal is not affected by this. --Paul_012 (talk) 23:57, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Oppose regarding Category:National Artist (Thailand) awardees since it's not an ordinary award (or even an ordinary honorary award), it's an honorary title given by the state (see National Artist or similar honorary titles like People's Artist and Honored Artist/Merited Artist). If we look at the current category names for this kind of title (Category:People's_Artists, Category:Honored Artists, and Category:Merited Artists, which also would be affected by this discussion, I believe), most have the form "... Artists of country" (for many the article title matches that but not for all), a few have the lower-case variant of that ("... artists of country"), and one has the form "Recipients of the title of Merited Artist of country". If we want to avoid the plural, I would support something along the lines of the last form ("Recipients of the title of x", where x can match the article title); "awardees" is very uncommon in general (basically not used atm, see search) and seems like a particularly odd choice for recipients of a title.
    If we want to have something closer to the current naming scheme (i.e. a plural form), I think the question is whether honorary titles fall under "Positions, offices, and occupational titles". I could not find a answer in discussions on that (I have seen some discussion about the (honorary) title of "Fellow", where it was argued that this could be interpreted as a position within a society, but I think that applies to this current discussion not as much), but it seems to me like all the examples in WP:JOBTITLES are very much occupation related (and that this was the intent behind this guideline), which the honors discussed here are clearly not. If we believe that honorary titles fall under WP:JOBTITLES, then arguments based on the specificity of the title would be irrelevant, since that is is not a reason to capitalize it per WP:JOBTITLES. Similarly, the argument that "National Artist" is a proper noun and that this leads to the plural being a proper noun (and capitalized) as well wouldn't work since there seems to be a consensus that such plural forms of titles are, in fact, not proper nouns and always capitalized (see Talk:List of presidents of the United States/Archive 13#Requested move 27 July 2019), and honestly, if "Presidents of the United States" is not considered a proper noun, then "National Artists" definitely isn't either. So, if we decide that WP:JOBTITLES does indeed apply to honorary titles, I think the lower-case plural is a given. If we decide that honorary titles do not fall under "Positions, offices, and occupational titles", then we still have MOS:PEOPLETITLES as a guideline, which doesn't say anything about plurals (although something is implied by an individual's name). I think the proper nouns argument would still lead to lower-case plural, but the consensus and arguments were specifically in reference to WP:JOBTITLES, so who knows. Felida97 (talk) 03:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know this is already too long, but I want to note a more general consideration (and potential argument for a capitalized plural despite MOS:JOBTITLES) that I came across when thinking about this discussion, and that is the fact that categories are obv inherently different from articles in various ways (and have a kind of special/particular function), and it may be debatable to what extent an article guideline like WP:JOBTITLES (or style guidelines, such as the Chicago Manual of Style, that are frequently referenced in style discussions) should apply to categories or category names (I'm not sure whether there is a nice analog equivalent for those). Or are categories perhaps so distinct/special in their structure/purpose that one could argue to have different rules for certain aspects? One aspect where this is already the case is that article titles generally should be singular in form (see WP:SINGULAR), whereas names of set categories are generally plural, which totally makes sense because of the different structure and function compared with articles. But, as I said, this is more general consideration. Felida97 (talk) 03:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Awardees is just what I came up with off the top of my head, so I'm open to other suggestions. But Category:Recipients of the title of National Artist of Thailand does seem rather unwieldy. RevelationDirect and Hey man im josh, what do you think? --Paul_012 (talk) 05:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with either of those. I acknowledge I could be wrong about "Artists", but it does seem that pluralizing the title would result in MOS:JOBTITLES applying, so whatever is done to get around that I'm fine with. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:56, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that's true (although in this instance it would be Category:Recipients of the title of National Artist (Thailand) to match the article title, right? [side note: I noticed that some of these titles have the "of country" part in the official title, but the Thailand one does not afaict, so the article title National Artist (Thailand) is not necessarily wrong and matching it was supported by all, I think]). My suggestion is also not that common atm (four cats), but that is because almost all category names for this kind of honor use the plural (here's another similar title: Category:Hero (title); same for Category:Honorary titles of the United Kingdom, Category:Honorary titles of Russia or Category:Honorary titles of the Holy See), and afaics, "Recipients of the title of..." is the most common (and only non-plural) alternative (and "Recipients of ..." seems to be common for other official state honors). Given the implications for quite a few categories and since our current direction here goes so clearly against the overwhelming majority of names, this honorary-titles-JOBTITLES-plural-capitalization issue probably should be discussed under wider participation to settle it (especially since a good portion of those plural names is currently wrong and should be corrected anyway, no matter what the correct form is), right? Felida97 (talk) 02:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Felida97's latest comment (suggesting Category:Recipients of the title of National Artist (Thailand))?
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Category:Latvian people from the Russian Empire

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Category:WikiProject Baronage of Scotland articles

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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete by Pppery per WP:C4. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure what to do about this category. There isn't an actual WikiProject Baronage of Scotland, it just exists on the user page of a relatively new editor (see User:Daniel Plumber/sandbox/WikiProject Baronage of Scotland). They are very enthusiastic but I'm not sure about tagging articles for such an ill-formed WikiProject. There has also been some discussion that there is a lot of COI editing going on with these articles but I guess the concern here is whether or not there is justification for this category. I'll also mention that Template:WikiProject Baronage of Scotland is up for a TFD discussion at the same time. Liz Read! Talk! 02:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This will be an empty category soon as the template is being deleted. Gonnym (talk) 18:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional mammoths

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Category:American Roman Catholic bishops by contiguous area of the United States

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Vague and non-defining. This category name sounds more like a container category, but the contents are individual bishops. Mason (talk) 00:27, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus favors a merge. To which targets?
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Category:Films set in summer camps

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Category:British male tennis players

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Nominator's rationale: I'm bringing this to CFD because @Crowsus: has requested it. I see no reason why this category should be the non-diffusing parent per WP:DIFFUSE. @Zyxw: made it so in 2020 [4] without any discussion I can find. Mason (talk) 02:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I would also ask that whatever outcome is reached here be considered to be applied to other groupings of British sportspeople, particularly Swimmers, Cyclists and Athletes (and obviously the subcategories thereof, where created) which have also had this non-diffusing header added. I have already recently gone through these and 'doubled' them for all articles where I can discern which part of the UK they were from, so if it is agreed that they should be removed from British if the home nation is known, the only remainders in the British parent should be the sparsely-sourced stubs or other unusual circumstances of each person. I did ask somewhere (can't remember where, trying to find it) for an explanation on why that non-diffusing thing had been chosen 9and was it a community consensus, but IIRC it was a project without a lot of interaction and nobody replied. Crowsus (talk) 02:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found my attempt to draw attention to the issue: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports/Archive 12#Category:British sportspeople by sport: why non-diffusing? (Jan 2023, ignored entirely)... Crowsus (talk) 06:02, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think generalizing to the rest is totally reasonable. And I think that no one chimed in advocating for it to be kept is at least some implicit information that no one felt strongly about non-diffusing Mason (talk) 17:04, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Diffuse, there is no reason to deviate from the default. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm confused here. There pretty much is no such thing as English tennis players. They are always referred to as British tennis players, whether professionally or at the Olympics. It would be like removing US tennis players and instead inserting Californian tennis players. And it looks like someone did the same with the Olympics... there are no Scottish Olympic competitors.... they are British. And the category tells us as much: "Players who only ever represented Great Britain as a single entity (for example, in tennis at the Olympic Games) are listed under this category only." Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • In that case the English subcategory should be merged to British. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:58, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So in other words completely changing your mind, and presumably throwing 343 English male tennis players back into the Sportsmen parent? Doesn't seem useful to me. At least the double category sorts that while reflecting that they are generally known as British within the sport globally. Crowsus (talk) 18:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Crowsus: I am not at all changing my mind: the articles should be either in an English/Scottish or a British category but not in both. When Fyunck argues that British is better than English I say to them, fine, in that case English is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, the "Players who only ever represented Great Britain as a single entity (for example, in tennis at the Olympic Games) are listed under this category only" was added by @Zyxw: at the same time as the non-diffusing tag, even though they are essentially contradictory: if there is a category for Scottish male players - which existed for 8 years before the changes were added, by the way - then obviously male players from Scotland are going to be added to it as that is a completely valid descriptor for their origin,regardless of a unilateral 'rule' over representation. The double cat is therefore an imperfect but reasonable compromise. Crowsus (talk) 18:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My biggest concern would be that editors will see "Scottish male tennis player" and remove the name from "British male tennis player" using diffusion... and that would be WRONG. They are first and foremost British tennis players both in professional tennis and the Olympics. They register as such with the governing bodies of tennis, are part of professional national teams, and as part of Olympics teams. They are not referred to as English, Scottish, or Welsh in tennis (other sports like FIFA World Cup are different). If you want to double-up and categorize these bios as both Scottish and British, or Californian and US, there will be lots of duplicates in both categories, but I can live with it. But removal of British and US categories in player bios I am 100% against. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:12, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I wouldn't object to the home nations being upmerged so they are not on the same level as the primary British tree and can be included without being a straight duplicate: eg both Jamie Murray and Andy Murray would show as in British male tennis players, Scottish sportsmen and Scottish tennis players [ungendered but regardless of representation - there are other categories covering that]. Scottish male tennis players etc therefore redundant, so redirect to British male tennis players. Crowsus (talk) 23:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's a reasonable request. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So the challenge is that "British male tennis player" is describing the nationality, not describing who they play for. If I'm understanding correctly, that your concern is that in these cases British is means that they played for Britain. There's also a tree for who folks represent in sport, which is different. SMasonGarrison 22:19, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Something that's kind of strange. I notice that @Crowsus: just added Jamie Murray to the category "Scottish Olympic medallists." Scotland is not a nation and has no Olympic medallists. Great Britain does have Olympic medallists. Does this mean I can start adding "Californian Olympic medalists?" Or even "Angeleno Olympic medalists?" I find this very confusing. If anything it should be "Olympic medallists from Scotland", but even that seems out of place. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, check again, i added him to Scottish Olympic competitors which I didn't create and is obviously underpopulated, although it has existed since 2011. Feel free to nominate that category (and/or the medalists one) separately, but it has little to do with this discussion. Crowsus (talk) 21:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Category:British female tennis players was not tagged; I will do so. I will note that this is not a discussion about the subcategories; a merge discussion can be initiated separately.
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Category:Worms (obsolete taxon)

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Category:Sacramental theologians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 22:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: unhelpful for navigation with only 1 person in each category. SMasonGarrison 02:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just delete, the first category contains someone who was not occupied as a theologian. The second category results in a POV issue, it is about an Eastern Orthodox concept while the theologian in the category lived long before the split between Catholic and Eastern Orthodox. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Santiago, Chile

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The result of the discussion was: keep. The Bushranger One ping only 21:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The main article is Santiago but this is a very common name for places in Latin America. About half of the subcategories include Chile and half do not. Personally, I'd rather use Santiago, Chile for all but more than anything, I'd like uniformity. Thoughts? User:Namiba 15:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All the sportspeople categories are like this one, Category:Boxers from Santiago. I know, since I created it from entries in Category:Sportspeople from Santiago. There are lots of Londons, but the category for is Category:London.Lost in Quebec (talk) 22:03, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, the categories are a mix and include both the shorter and longer names.--User:Namiba 15:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. And rename the child categories. JuniperChill's argument doesn't really make sense here because there are so many Santiago SMasonGarrison 02:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Drafts about actors

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category covering the same scope, with some overlap between the two. The more preferred target is in line with the naming of the parent cat, Category:Draft articles on biographies. Trailblazer101 (talk) 22:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People of the colonial Southwest of North America

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Category:Subtemplates of Template Convinfobox

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category does not have any sub-templates as the template was converted into Lua. Gonnym (talk) 21:34, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Scotland men's under-17 international footballers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Scotland men's youth international footballers. The Bushranger One ping only 22:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not sure exactly where and when it was agreed, but convention is that youth levels below u21 are not worthwhile to have, and should instead all be counted under 'youth' (no need to merge as all the players are in that category too - only 5 memebers, so not much effort to populate it either to be honest). A parent was created alongside this, Category:Association football players by under-17 national team, which only contains this Scotland group, but the absence of any others does not appear to have deterred the creator. Crowsus (talk) 20:14, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Antpittas

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Category:Anagennisi Dherynia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 22:25, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only the subcategory Anagennisi Deryneia FC, which is already in Category:Football clubs in Cyprus. Anagennisi Deryneia is a redirect to Anagennisi Deryneia FC. jlwoodwa (talk) 17:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Amusement rides based on works by Canadian writers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Amusement rides based on works by writer. The Bushranger One ping only 22:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only the subcategory Amusement rides based on works by James Cameron, which is already in Category:Adaptations of works by Canadian writers. jlwoodwa (talk) 17:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Amphibian organizations

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 12:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only the subcategory Amphibian conservation organizations, which is already in the appropriate subcategories of Animal organizations and Amphibians. jlwoodwa (talk) 17:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Restaurants in Buckinghamshire

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The result of the discussion was: merge to all parents. – Fayenatic London 12:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Also merge to Category:Buildings and structures in Buckinghamshire and Category:Tourist attractions in Buckinghamshire

Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. Better categorised within the parents. AusLondonder (talk) 17:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Buddhist caves in India

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The result of the discussion was: keep. The Bushranger One ping only 06:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This should be renamed to differentiate this group from naturally forming caves, and all of the current category member fall into the narrowed category. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 15:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose – I don't see a reason why India in particular should be inconsistent with the rest of the Category:Buddhist caves tree. jlwoodwa (talk) 17:53, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawn per above.. How would I submit a bundled request?
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 04:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Procedural oppose per Jlwoodwa. Without prejudice to a bundled nomination including all siblings and parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where does this leave us? Splitting this not-especially-large category up by state was a really bad idea, for readers without a detailed knowledge of Indian political geography. Like the mad sub-division of so many Italian and French categories. Unfortunately no one seems to feel it necessary to find consensus for such changes first. Many if not most of these caves are not correctly described as "temples" in any case - they were dormitories/study centres for monks. How does the proposed name "differentiate this group from naturally forming caves"? It doesn't. I will oppose a bundled nom too. Johnbod (talk) 06:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am looking into the articles now. Very few of them describe these caves as temples indeed. It is probably a better idea to rename the subcategories and remove "temples" from the name (and also merge some of the subcategories but that is a completely different issue). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As the creator, I don’t completely disagree. For the record, I searched in depth for previous discussion and couldn’t find any, leading to my be bold decision. Ultimately, I would completely ok with renaming the groups, though if so the Hindu equivalent category should also be renamed. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 14:03, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If they are renamed though, it should be to “Buddhist rock-cut caves of X”. It is a very important distinction between naturally formed sites and manmade ones. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 14:08, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's assuming the caves fall neatly into those two groups; they don't. In areas with many natural caves it is often pretty much impossible to say whether a cave is a natural one that's been expanded or not. Johnbod (talk) 14:52, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreeing with Johnbod. Extensive stonecarving is common in such caves and could eliminate evidence that the cave was expanded from a natural cave. Categorizing naturally-occurring caves by religion also seems potentially problematic. Would a cave with attested use by multiple religions, or carving in multiple religious traditions, go in multiple categories?
    Categorizing the caves by the type(s) of rock they are in (e.g. basalt, limestone) might give the sort of indication you are looking for, but unambiguously. HLHJ (talk) 22:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Johnbod has a point, but in most or all of these cases the caves are carved in to rock types that don't form natural caves with any meaningful regularity, since they are mostly cut in basalt or granite, not limestone. And, if they do fall into both categories, they would still be rock cut architecture, and therefore would fall under the cat, though perhaps not exclusively under it. Most if not all of these articles refer to the caves as being exclusively rock-cut, so I don't see this being a meaningful issue. Breaking them up by rock type would be nightmare, and isn't really all that useful for navigation. The description of the these formations as "caves" has a very specific connotation, and it isn't an accurate one, particularly compared to nearly everything else in category:caves.
    As for religion, that was a choice made by the people who first created all of those categories. In the current time, most caves used by more than one group over time are tagged with all relevant categories.
    Ultimately, the current name is not quite accurate, and needs some workshopping and or tweaking.
    Kingsmasher678 (talk) 23:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above. Johnbod (talk) 04:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Endangered species by reason they are threatened

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Category:Alcippeidae

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Category:Alagoas society

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Alagoas. The Bushranger One ping only 22:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only the subcategory Education in Alagoas. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aggressor units of the United States Air Force

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Category:Advocacy groups in Switzerland

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 22:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only the subcategory Political advocacy groups in Switzerland, which is already in the appropriate subcategories of Advocacy groups by country and Organisations based in Switzerland by subject. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Advertising events

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Advertising. The Bushranger One ping only 22:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only the subcategory Advertising awards. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hornblower characters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The Bushranger One ping only 22:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only the article Horatio Hornblower, which is already in Category:Horatio Hornblower. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:50, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Holopogon

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Category:Exonumia utility templates

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only {{exonumia-stub}}. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Durangonella

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Category:Crateroscelis

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Category:Supermarkets of Cameroon

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The only article in this category is already also categorised under the proposed merge target, so this is, functionally, a delete. The Bushranger One ping only 22:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only a list article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 00:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I purged Carrefour and Spar, they are a French and a Dutch company respectively, we don't categorize multinational companies by all of their locations. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle: I thought that might be the case and makes sense (I wasn't entirely sure and had a quick look through a bunch of the sibling cats, at least half contained ones that I know did not originate from that country (mostly the German one, I noticed), and those lists "List of supermarket chains in..." contain those as well, but those are obv named "in country" and not "of country"). I have removed / am currently a bunch more by that principle. What do you do with companies like Lidl Austria or Walmart Canada? You would categorize those according to the country they're based in as well (so, Austria and Canada, respectively, in this case), too, right? Felida97 (talk) 20:00, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, and obv Support merge now. Felida97 (talk) 20:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Supermarkets of Djibouti

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The only article in this category is already also categorised under the proposed merge target, so this is, functionally, a delete. The Bushranger One ping only 22:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only a list article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 00:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Restaurants in Monmouthshire

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Restaurants in Wales. The Bushranger One ping only 22:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge also to Category:Buildings and structures in Monmouthshire.

Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. Better categorised within parents. AusLondonder (talk) 00:28, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:White rums

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November 3

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Category:Informal occupations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: See WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. There doesn't seem to be an agreed-upon definition of what an "informal occupation" is, if it exists. Technically, I could call literally anything an "informal occupation", but a lot of times, such as with squeegee men, the only people who consider it one are the people who do it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Corythaixoides

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to Clements, Corythaixoides has been synonymized with Crinifer. The iNaturalist taxonomic swap gives context for this. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:53, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Conversion infoboxes

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category only contains {{temperature}}, which isn't really an infobox. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:28, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ciccaba

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Strix (genus). Strix can be discussed at Talk:Strix. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to IRMNG and ITIS, Ciccaba has been synonymized with Strix. This category's sole member, Black-and-white owl, is now Strix nigrolineata. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. I will also update Strix. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:14, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jlwoodwa: Various articles about Strix species formerly included within Ciccaba will need to be updated. If you can find the original source which synonymized this genus, that would be great. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LaundryPizza03: ITIS says Synonymized according to the placement of the type species, Strix huhula Daudin 1800, in the sources ITIS is following. ITIS's entry for Strix huhula cites IOC World Bird List (v 8.1) Freely accessible. It doesn't seem to explicitly state that Ciccaba huhula is renamed to Strix huhula; my guess is that it's implied by how the specific name and author citation are the same. I've also found some articles which mention or support the change:
But since IOC 8.1 was published in 2018, neither of those articles can be the original source. Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/References says that Wikipedia follows the IOC list by default; maybe IOC itself is the original source? jlwoodwa (talk) 20:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Centropodinae

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Centropodinae is a monogeneric subfamily. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Captaincookia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to Phylogeny and classification of the species-rich pantropical showy genus Ixora Freely accessible and POWO, Captaincookia has been synonymized with Ixora. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Candomblés by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Candomblé. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is the only member of Category:Candomblés, and it only contains two subcategories (Brazilian Candomblés and French Candomblés). I don't think we need two nested container categories here. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buffetia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to IRMNG and WoRMS, Buffetia is not an accepted taxon, and Allenoconcha is used instead. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:39, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Belontiidae

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to WoRMS and Family-group names of Recent fishes Freely accessible, Belontiidae has been converted to the monogeneric subfamily Belontiinae of Osphronemidae. jlwoodwa (talk) 18:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Batrachoidiformes

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Percomorpha. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Batrachoidiformes is a monotypic order. jlwoodwa (talk) 18:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Further education colleges in Snowdonia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicates Category:Further education colleges in Gwynedd. AusLondonder (talk) 17:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Awalycaeus

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to IRMNG and Genus-level revision of the Alycaeidae Freely accessible, Awalycaeus has been synonymized with Dicharax. jlwoodwa (talk) 17:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2029 in Wuhan

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only a single article, a building scheduled to be completed in 2029. Unhelpful for navigation. Also per WP:CRYSTAL. AusLondonder (talk) 17:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rums of the Pacific Rim

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCLOCATION)
Since rum is usually bottled in the tropics near where sugar cane grows, we currently group rums under Category:Rum by country rather than by ocean basin. More importanty, I don't think that grouping rums from say Australia, the Philippines and El Salvador would aid reader navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Restaurants in Merseyside

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The result of the discussion was: triple merge as nominated HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge also to Category:Tourist attractions in Merseyside and Category:Buildings and structures in Merseyside.

Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. Better categorised within the parents. AusLondonder (talk) 15:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Restaurants in Pembrokeshire

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Also merge to Category:Buildings and structures in Pembrokeshire.

Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. Better categorised within parents. AusLondonder (talk) 15:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Restaurants in Lake Oswego, Oregon

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lake Oswego, Oregon. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only one article, unhelpful for navigation. The one article is about a short-lived doughnut shop, not sure it should even be categorised as a restaurant. AusLondonder (talk) 14:50, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fathers' rights by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Category:Paternity by country can be the subject of a fresh nomination. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:02, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support as an unnecessary step in the category tree. Should we upmerge to Category:Paternity by country as well? jlwoodwa (talk) 17:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People of Mexican California

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, the scope of the two categories largely overlaps. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:17th century in California

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated category with only two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:War films set in Partisan Yugoslavia

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename in order not to get confused with Category:Films about Yugoslav Resistance. Align with Category:Films set in France during World War II. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:28, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like an obviously good idea. --Joy (talk) 08:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Novels set during the Yugoslav Wars

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, only one article in it and the novel isn"t really about the Yugoslav Wars. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Austromenidia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to WoRMS, Austromenidia is no longer a valid taxon. This category's sole member (Odontesthes gracilis) is already in Category:Odontesthes, so there's no need for merging. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Musical instruments played with drum sticks

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 11#Category:Musical instruments played with drum sticks


Category:Ataeniobius

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Ataeniobius is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Petroleum industry in Turkey

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The result of the discussion was: keep. The Bushranger One ping only 22:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing one article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 19:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed there is also a category called ‘Petroleum in Turkey’ so I put the page there instead. So as category now empty I suggest deleting it Chidgk1 (talk) 06:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on both Marcocapelle and Fayenatic london's comments?
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Reformed Christianity

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Nominator's rationale: Now that the main article has been moved to the correct title, these categories should also be moved according to the C2D criteria ('Consistency with the main article's name'). --Humpser (talk) 18:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Should "reformed" be capitalized?
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  • In the Netherlands they were also sort of synonymous, though Calvinist usually referred to the doctrine of the church and reformed was in the name of the church (Dutch Reformed Church etc.). In the Dutch situation, Arminians are considered to be neither Calvinists nor reformed, so the rename is perfectly ok. In Switzerland the rename is particularly useful because Calvinism and Zwinglianism quickly merged to reformed. That fits with Olson's statement quoted above that reformed is broader than Calvinist. Renaming the categories to reformed does not harm in that case (possibly there could be a Calvinist subcategory but I do not expect so.) If the rename is a problem somewhere else than in the US, Netherlands or Switzerland, I'd like to hear specifically in which country. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Lean opposed. Wouldn't this narrow the category? This seems like making a lot of extra work and narrow the category. Mason (talk) 02:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't think it is. In any case, it certainly isn't broader than "Calvinist and Reformed". StAnselm (talk) 03:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@StAnselm in the source you provided, everything is different: many people who identify as Reformed do not identify as Calvinist, but all people who identify as Calvinist also identify as Reformed. 109.229.195.72 (talk) 20:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the same author has another article in which he says, "many Protestants are Calvinist but not Reformed and many others are Reformed but not Calvinist". StAnselm (talk) 21:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • If people in other denominations have adopted Calvinist views, as argued by the source quoted by StAnselm, then that is all the more reason to drop Calvinist from the category name. The category is about a denomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:01, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It certainly hasn't been used that way, and if it is renamed thousands of articles need to be checked for correct categorization. StAnselm (talk) 04:10, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aviation accidents and incidents caused by fighter aircraft shootdowns

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The result of the discussion was: delete. I understand the desire to keep the older category's history, but looking at it, the only edit post creation that isn't related to either a C1 or this CFD is a bot edit to add a wikidata link, that (due to the new/merged name) won't be on the merged/renamed category, so - given the only content of this category is the target category! - this is just a simple delete. If another admin disagrees then they can certainly undelete and history-merge. The Bushranger One ping only 22:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category name is grammatically awkward, overlong, and overbroad. All incidents currently listed in the category involve airliners, creating a branch of Category:Aviation accidents and incidents that largely and needlessly duplicates Category:Airliner shootdown incidents. Such incidents should only be listed in one of these category trees. Additionally, the category potentially encompasses combat in war depending on the definition of "incidents"; this creates potential category overlap with Category:20th-century aircraft shootdown incidents and Category:21st-century aircraft shootdown incidents. (Relisting to seek clearer consensus; I CfD'd this category previously but drafted the nomination poorly and did not suggest a merger target.) Carguychris (talk) 14:20, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: The target has been renamed to Category:Airliner shootdown incidents involving combat aircraft. I will ping participants in the previous CFD.
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@Pppery and Smasongarrison: Thoughts on the above? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm indifferent to the name, but I agree with Marco that we should keep the page history of the older page. SMasonGarrison 03:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aris Limassol

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only Category:Aris Limassol FC, which is already in this category's parents (Category:Football clubs in Cyprus ⊆ Category:Sports clubs and teams in Cyprus, and Category:Sport in Limassol) – hence no need for merging. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Online-only games

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The result of the discussion was: redirect to Category:Multiplayer online games. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is not a defining trait, mostly because it not executed properly (can you imagine all browser games that require WIFI in existence already?) it also heavily conflicts Category:Multiplayer online games which mostly contains games only having a multiplayer online mode QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why not merge and leave as a redirect? That would reduce the chances of this being created again. Mason (talk) 03:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Merge and redirect?
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Alta California before 1824

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated (i.e. capital The Californias). HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, according to article Alta California, the province was called The/Las Californias until 1804 (and also contained Baja California) and was called Nueva California until 1824. Instead of The Californias as a rename target I would also be fine with Province of Las Californias, per article title Province of Las Californias. When there is no opposition I will add the year categories to the nomination too. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:31, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Large bundled nomination; relisting to give extra time for objections.
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Question: Should it be "The Californias" instead of "the Californias"? Mason (talk) 02:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: For discussion on whether it should be "The Californias" or "the Californias".
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adding year categories to the nomination
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Category:Private schools Northern Beaches Sydney

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Northern Beaches. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category created by a private school, duplicates and doesn't improve on the existing categorisation scheme at Category:Private schools in Sydney and subcategories such as Category:Private secondary schools in Sydney. AusLondonder (talk) 11:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Nomination favors deletion – should we merge? If so, to which targets?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: See above relisting comment
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:38, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:American soles

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 (T·C) 13:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:American soles and Category:Achiridae duplicate each other. Defaulting to merging in this direction since Category:American soles only contains the eponymous American sole. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reverse merge per WP:C2D – the name should follow the eponymous article American sole. I have tagged Category:Achiridae. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:37, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Artists who acted in films and television shows

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We already have Category:Film actors and Category:Television actors we don't need this strange intersection. There are tens of thousands of articles on actors of differing genders and nationalities and we don't need another branch on this tree. Liz Read! Talk! 00:25, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Alexteroon

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to AMNH, Alexteroon has been synonymized with Hyperolius. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Albanian bishops

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only Category:Albanian Roman Catholic bishops. Unnecessary step in the category tree. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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November 2

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Category:Aegialornithidae

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category only contains Aegialornis, the sole member of this monogeneric family. None of the Aegialornis species have articles. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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19th-century establishments in Somalia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, poorly populated categories and Somalia did not even exist yet. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American slave trade

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 10#Category:American slave trade

Category:Whitnash

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 10#Category:Whitnash

Category:Kenton, Devon

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 10#Category:Kenton, Devon


Category:Litchfield, New York

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a disappearance which appears to have actually occurred in a neighbouring location. AusLondonder (talk) 17:24, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Second-generation universities of Ethiopia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining cateogry SMasonGarrison 16:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Leaders of People's National Congress of Maldives

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Adding "of Maldives" is unnecessary + other parties also have the country name in brackets
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Category:People's National Congress of Maldives politicians

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Adding "of Maldives" is unnecessary + other parties also have the country name in brackets
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Category:Important Cultural Properties of Obama City

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Category:Arabs in the United Arab Emirates

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, current category title is confusing because nearly all inhabitants of the UAE are Arabs. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional female gunfighters

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It does not seem to be encyclopedic to note the gender of a fictional gunfighter. While some combinations of specialization and gender are worth subcategorizing, this one does not appear to be. Therefore this should be dual merged into Fictional gunfighters and Fictional female warriors (only if applicable). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:02, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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15 to 21 days old

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November 1

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Category:Astronomical observatories in Vatican City

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge this underpopulated category SMasonGarrison 23:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Astronomical observatories in Malaysia

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Astronomical observatories. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:30, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category SMasonGarrison 23:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Astronomy in North Macedonia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer SMasonGarrison 23:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tiziano Ferro redirects

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 9#Category:Tiziano Ferro redirects

Category:Battles involving the Islamic State in the Greater Sahara

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: ISGS is now known as Islamic State - Sahel Province TheLibyanGuy (talk) 22:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Genola, Utah

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article on a small town and an abandoned refinery, both of which are already appropriately categorised. Unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 22:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:English sportspeople of Turkish descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: And to Category:Sportspeople of Turkish descent. Goes against consensus which was reached for Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 28#Britsh sportspeople by descent, that would obviously a parent of this. Crowsus (talk) 22:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Teshikaga, Hokkaido

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 21:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Haboro, Hokkaido

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 21:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional budō practitioners

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: See WP:USEENGLISH. The Okinawan aspect might need to be upmerged, but I think Japanese martial arts is its own separately notable topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional hangug-eo musul practitioners

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This tiny container category is too small to be necessary, and is pure overcategorization. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional jianke

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OR. None of these articles mention jianke in them. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional female swordfighters

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:17, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a non-encyclopedic cross-categorization that fails WP:NONDEF, as being a female swordfighter is not defining compared to just being a swordfighter. (It would be called "swordswomen" anyway, but a delete is preferable to a rename due to its non-defining nature). Not all things have to be separated by gender and it should be done only when the gender is important with regards to the job. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:42, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm ambivalent to this category being merged or not, but what about other subcategories of Category:Fictional female warriors? AHI-3000 (talk) 00:03, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Frankly, it depends. Female ninja, or kunoichi, have their own article, and this may very well be defining. I think they all have to be judged individually, so there is no massive procedural issue in doing them one-by-one. For now, they can also be merged into the base category of female warriors, but it would probably have to be done manually since not all swordfighters are warriors. I do think Category:Fictional female warriors is pretty safe since it's an encyclopedic topic in itself. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional male martial artists

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: While an attempt to merge failed in 2021, I am reiterating it for these specific categories.
Since they include characters that are not simply sportspeople, but all fictional characters who use some form of martial arts, there is no encyclopedic reason to classify them by gender. The only reason to classify sports players by gender is because teams are gender-based. Instead, they should be dual merged into "Fictional male/female sportspeople" (IF applicable) and "Fictional martial artists".
Created by a blocked disruptive user as well, who knew full well this was not an encyclopedic cross-categorization. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tubular bells players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Another percussion overcategorization; unlike the carillon or marimba, no one specializes on tubular bells. Why? I Ask (talk) 12:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Restaurants in Hoboken, New Jersey

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 9#Category:Restaurants in Hoboken, New Jersey


Category:Iecava parish

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, poorly populated and as far as I can see there are no other categories at parish level in Latvia. The main administrative division is by municipality. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Companies based in Cēsis

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, categories with a single member, that is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Geography of Latvia by city

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with each only a subcategory for Riga. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Öresundsvarvet

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, the subcategory suffices (that one might be renamed to Category:Ships built at the Öresundsvarvet). No need to merge, the main article is already in Category:Defunct companies based in Landskrona, the subcategory is already in Category:History of transport in Landskrona. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rutulian film people

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 9#Category:Rutulian film people

Category:Edhi family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This category doesn't help navigation with only a husband and wive pair who are already interlinked SMasonGarrison 02:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Edhi family is a very notable family from Pakistan because of their philanthropy work. I will say that the category should be left as is. Wikibear47 (talk) 18:04, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indian People's Theatre Association people

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The revised text appears to be more appropriate and conveys a better understanding of the category. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 07:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic. This is without prjudice to creating a chairs or activists category if they are defining characteristics. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete instead per WP:NOTDEF. If kept, oppose renaming for two reasons: 1. Abbreviations should be avoided (see WP:CATNAME; I don't think this falls under "acronyms that have become the official, or generally used, name (such as NATO)", evidenced by the title of the corresponding main article Indian People's Theatre Association); 2. (assuming WP:OCASSOC doesn't apply) while for this kind of category the naming schemes "People associated with..." and "... people" would be possible, it seems like if the organization name includes the word "association", only the latter is currently used (see search 1 and search 2), probably for stylistic reasons. Felida97 (talk) 19:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Was not tagged; I will do so.
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Empires and kingdoms of foo

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus for merging any categories (no prejudice against speedy renomination). For renaming, there is consensus that something needs to change, but no consensus on what the new name should be. Therefore, as a WP:BARTENDER, I am going with the option which Marcocapelle calls more accurate – PadFoot's alt rename. There is also no prejudice against a fresh rename nomination. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These are not all "empires and kingdoms", but rather include all historical states which once inhabited the modern-day territory of these countries. Opting for "polities" rather than "states" to remove any ambiguity (and these were not all "countries" either). Category:Former political entities in Afghanistan (currently the lone country cat in Category:Former territorial entities in Asia) and Category:Former countries in Indian history already exist, and thus Category:Empires and kingdoms of Afghanistan and Category:Empires and kingdoms of India should be merged there, and the two parents renamed with the desired naming scheme. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 00:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In fact there is a Category:Italian states. I sympathize with the argument of anachronism, but merging to general history categories would result in these categories becoming very messy. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, I think that Category:Italian states does not pose a similar issue as it seems to be based on ethnicity and/or a link to a historical region, and thus is not anachronistic. To me, anachronism seems to be a significant issue in the case of the nominated categories, which needs to be addressed in one way or another. PadFoot (talk) 13:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure how to conclude that it is based on ethnicity or historical region. The category just lists all states within the boundaries of 21st-century Italy. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:21, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, See the category itself. It says in the top:

This category contains articles on former Italian countries and polities. This category contain all the former states south of the Alpine water divide (North Italy) and in the Italian Peninsula and all the states of Italian language and or culture.

Besides, what is important is that the nominated categories present issues of anachronism. Perhaps you could suggest a way to fix that? PadFoot (talk) 02:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Italian Peninsula may well be considered to be a region, but current North Italy isn't part of it. North Italy is included in the category just because it belongs to the current state of Italy. There is also Category:Former countries in Spanish history. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
North Italy is indeed a part of it. See the very first line of the article on Italian Peninsula:

is a peninsula extending from the southern Alps in the north to the central Mediterranean Sea in the south

Besides, the cat also mentions "states of Italian language and culture". However, you have convinced me that the categories should be retained and not merged, but should be renamed (in one way or another) to fix the anachronism. Perhaps, we should also expand in the categories. PadFoot (talk) 12:01, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the alternative name suggested by PadFoot?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the alternative name suggested by PadFoot?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcocapelle: Do you support PadFoot's alt rename? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:21st-century diplomatic conferences (Afghanistan)

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:21st-century diplomatic conferences. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Nominating these subcats of the main 21st-century diplomatic conferences category. These subcats are WP:Overcat or in this case over subcat as each one of these subcats don't do much in terms of organizing these articles in a proper order nor are accurate.

For instance, the Afghanistan subcat deals in regard to the War in Afghanistan from 2001 to 2021. But the G7 articles under the Global subcat also dealt with Afghanistan including other conflicts. The G7 summit in 2013 for instance dealt with the war in Syria as one of the agenda items. So if there was a subcat with (Syria) in the title, it would go in there as well by this logic of the now-banned creator. But it too would go in the Global category. So, it would be too many categories for each summit that overlap on issues they deal with.

If there are going to subcats for the main category, it should be probably be something like "Category:2024 diplomatic conferences" as by year would help reduce the overflow of articles in one category. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on merging?
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Not opposed to merging. But still, these individual cats should not exist. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional mass murderers

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Thorough discussion; unlikely a WP:RELIST will help. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is unnecessarily specific for a fictional character grouping. And are people really going to know that "mass murder" means 4 or more people, or know precisely how many people said character had killed in their backstory? (Unlike real life, where the amount is usually made clear) It has a huge amount of miscategorized members who did not even kill as a crime.
In the case of fiction, whether they are simply a murderer or not usually matters more. Of course, I recommend the merge be highly selective as many of this category's members simply don't belong here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly oppose. How are these categories any more "unnecessary" than any of the other multiple subcategories within Category:Fictional murderers and Category:Fictional female murderers?. AHI-3000 (talk) 23:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Though being an assassin is, at least, a unique and defining job. Regicide, not so much. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, target Category:Fictional murderers has a diffuse template on its page, but I do not see how this can be maintained. The subcategories do not cover the full spectrum of fictional murderers. When this CfD proposal is implemented the number of articles directly in the target will increase further although some of them may be diffused right away. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That was added by a disruptive editor, so you are right that it is nonsense, I have removed it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose any deletion of this category, as a member of the crime wikiproject, as long as the serial killer one exists. A precise death toll (probably change language to "several") is less necessary than the distinction of timing. Mass is a bunch of people at once, serial is over time. Otherwise people will end up putting them in the serial killer category which is inaccurate. I would not oppose deletion of this if the serial killer category is also deleted, though. Like any category for any character where this is not a defining aspect it should be removed. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:08, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Serial killer" is way more obvious to people that it's talking about a crime. I don't think it is as unclear as the name of this category by a long shot. Is there a risk of people miscategorizing mass killers as serial killers? Sure, but at the very least it will be more obvious. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree. And well, murder is in the category name, so if someone isn't recognizing it as a criminal category I think there may be other issues. And as you said, the more key factor is murderer, vs serial or mass murder, but that also applies to the serial killer category. Everything you said to justify deletion of this also applies to that one. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sound Transit logos

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 23:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Saturday Night Live hosts

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT. Saturday Night Live musical guests is given as an example of what not to do. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previously deleted Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 November 20#Category:Saturday Night Live hosts. CSD G4 may apply.
Also List of Saturday Night Live hosts exists to serve the purpose of documenting this. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep That was 18 years ago. I think it’s time to have a category for this. Vinnylospo (talk) 22:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't address the WP:PERFCAT issue of not categorizing performers by performances. The last SNL cat was given as a current example in that article of what not to do and the arguments stated in that delete discussion are still valid today. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete: being a one-time host of a television show is not a defining feature of a person that would warrant categorization. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 00:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Hosting a variety show, even an iconic one such as SNL, is not a defining category. The lumps together people as disparate as Donald Trump, an at-the-time 10 yr-old Macaulay Culkin, and Ed Koch. It has also bene previously deleted, and that deletion is used as an example of what NOT to categorize as. Zaathras (talk) 00:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Boxborough, Massachusetts

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 8#Category:Boxborough, Massachusetts


Families of two

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Each of these family categories contains only two biography articles. The categories are therefore unnecessary for navigation, and should be deleted per precedent e.g. Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_October_21#Category:Amirov_brothers. They are all subcats of Category:Mixed martial arts families or Boxing families, and happen to have been created by the same editor, who has not replied to a request to tag them for speedy deletion under WP:G7. – Fayenatic London 16:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional characters with accelerated ageing

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Falls under WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. Let's use clone troopers from Star Wars as an example. While they are engineered to age twice as fast as typical humans, is this really "accelerated", or just normal? After all, it's standard for a clone trooper, who needs to grow and be sent into combat quickly, so it might be subjective to call it "too fast". While some characters really do have their aging artificially sped up, this category is bound to collect plenty of characters who only age fast *relative to a human* or whatever the "normal baseline" is, making it untenable to keep. Created by a disruptive, blocked user also. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kirk Douglas Award recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD. A lifetime achievement award from a film festival is non-defining. User:Namiba 15:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Works by Maya Angelou

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The categories proposed all consist of one or two articles that can appropriately be categorized in the parent category. None of them can be categorized in any of the other categories (e.g. Down in the Delta can only be categorized as Category:Films directed by Maya Angelou as she only played one role in creating the work. If moved up to Works by Maya Angelou, it would not get diffused into a different sub-category, that inaccurately represents her relationship to the film). Vegantics (talk) 14:31, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2026 Asian Para Games

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category with no content but the eponym itself. Since the event is still two full years away as of right now, there's no prospect of this growing anytime soon -- absolutely none of the spinoff events-at, athletics-at, medalists-at, nations-at or venues-of content that sibling categories have is possible to create yet, since there's absolutely nothing of substance to say about any of that two full years in advance, so the eponym will be the only article here for the foreseeable future. Obviously no prejudice against recreation in 2026 when enough of the spinoff content exists to justify it, but it isn't already needed now just to contain only one page. Bearcat (talk) 14:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cities in the United States by geographical region by state

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: SMasonGarrison 13:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cities in Louisiana by geographical region

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant and vague category layer that unhelpful for navigation SMasonGarrison 13:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Core-based statistical areas of Colorado

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Vaguely defined and Redundant category layer SMasonGarrison 13:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Warner Robins, GA Metropolitan Statistical Area

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 8#Category:Warner Robins, GA Metropolitan Statistical Area


Category:Californian Olympic medalists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCLOCATION. State of residence has no defining relationship with being an Olympic medalist per se, and there is no established scheme of subdividing Category:Olympic medalists for the United States by state at all: no comparable category exists for any other state, but there's no particular reason why California would have a special need for a thing no other state has. And even if there were legitimate grounds for keeping it, it would have to be renamed "Olympic medalists from California" anyway, as we do not use demonyms for state-level categories (and per the logical parent Category:Olympic medalists for the United States, this tree doesn't even use demonyms at the country level either.) Bearcat (talk) 12:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. per OCLOCATION SMasonGarrison 13:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: there are categories like Category:Scottish Olympic competitors.--User:Namiba 15:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cape Verde–United Kingdom relations

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Category:Pittsboro, Indiana

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and Early life and career of Jeff Gordon which seems an unusual categorisation choice. AusLondonder (talk) 07:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Westfield, Marquette County, Wisconsin

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing two eponymous articles, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 07:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Confederation of the Rhine

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 8#Confederation of the Rhine


Category:Montpellier 1 University alumni

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per the main page. "In January 2015, Montpellier 2 University and Montpellier 1 University merged again to reform University of Montpellier." SMasonGarrison 02:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People by district in Goyang

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People from Goyang. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Pages should be upmerged to Category:People from Goyang. Think this is too specific; no other districts for south korea have such categories. seefooddiet (talk) 00:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Conspiracy theories promoted by Elon Musk

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not a defining characteristic of any of these articles. This category only seems to exist because there is a similar one regarding Donald Trump, who held a much more important position and makes the conspiracy theories in that category a big part of his political appeal. In contrast, this category is effectively just trivia. Note that the articles in this category only mention Musk for a sentence or two, if they even mention him at all. Partofthemachine (talk) 21:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ice planets in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: rename. charlotte 👸♥ 20:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Should be renamed to be a part of Category:Works set in outer space since it mostly consists of works, not articles about planets. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, category convention. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support to be the same as other related categories. Jontesta (talk) 23:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Marvel Comics planets

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only two actual articles here, should also be dual merged to Category:Marvel Comics locations. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge I just removed a redirect to an article that is also in the category, Ego the Living Planet. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians who like The Amazing Digital Circus and Category:Wikipedians by interest in a web series

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 20:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:Wikipedians by interest in a television series exists, and I don't see why it would be a bad idea to have a separate category for web series, which may include web series that don't exactly count as TV shows. On the other hand, I don't think I can come up with an argument against the deletion of the TADC category that's better than "Some people might use this userbox one day", so I might be more willing to concede with regards to that one.

These categories were nominated for speedy deletion by Liz a few days ago on the grounds that they're empty. However, if I put both of them up for discussion, then by my understanding, they may no longer be eligible for speedy deletion anymore, though deletion itself remains on the table. This is the first time I've tried to open a category discussion, so I might be going about all of this the wrong way. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 17:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Calculations nobody asked for
P.S. I've decided to figure out how many of these categories are there, and I've encountered the following numbers:
Including Wikipedians by interest itself, that's 2,706 categories in total. As it turns out, when I said it "may take all day" to tag them all, that might've been an understatement. If someone takes a minute to tag each page for deletion, it would take 45 hours to manually tag all but six of them. If this hypothetical user spent no more than 8 hours each day editing Wikipedia, they would have to spend five days doing nothing but tagging these pages, plus 5 hours and 6 minutes on the sixth day before they finally get to rest on the seventh. I'm not saying we shouldn't bother getting any of these categories deleted; the sheer scale of the potential CfD backlog shouldn't necessarily discourage anyone with deletion privileges from helping out anyway. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 15:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
P.P.S. Now, as for the Wikipedians by interest in a television series category tree:
If I assume that every "Wikipedians who like" category is within that tree, then there may be up to 389 total categories therein. Manually tagging that many would take that one hypothetical user just six and a half hours to do, so while it may still take all day (depending on how quickly you can do it) a user with enough free time could theoretically pull off such a task there within a single calendar day. On the other hand, if all 2,705 categories were to be tagged or deleted within a 24-hour period, each of all of those categories would have to be tagged or deleted at an average interval of no more than 31.94 seconds. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 16:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedians by interest in...
Wikipedians interested in...
Wikipedians who like...
Wikipedians who read...





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Category:Ecumenopolises

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 20:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains a couple of actual articles. A bit too small to merit existence, should be multi-merged into "megastructures" and "fictional populated places" if necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Smooth Network presenters

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Category:Non-scientific hypothetical planets

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Pseudoastronomy. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:29, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: So are we saying these planets are fake, or aren't we? If they aren't real, they would be fiction. If they might be real, they should be in the parent category. Either way, the current name is WP:SUBJECTIVECAT and shouldn't remain where it is. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The distinction is that a fictional planet is presented in a work of ostensible fiction, and it is accepted by all that it does not really exist. These hypothetical planets are presented as if they are real, and are sometimes accepted by their audience as existing planets, despite the lack of evidence or theoretical justification. RandomCritic (talk) 19:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Feminism and transgender

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The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. charlotte 👸♥ 20:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The current title, comparing a noun to an adjective, reads awkwardly, and "transgender topics" is usually preferred to "transgenderism" as a noun form. During previous discussions on Category talk:Feminism and transgender to move it to Category:Feminist views on transgender topics, this alternative was supported by multiple editors, although a formal move request wasn't opened until now. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buildings and structures in Andover, Vermont

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, makes navigation between buildings and structures in Windsor County more difficult. AusLondonder (talk) 14:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Gilman, Illinois

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 20:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article about a small town and a train station, which is already mentioned at the main article. Both are already appropriately categorised. AusLondonder (talk) 13:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:North Druid Hills, Georgia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 20:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article, a road, and a redirect to another road. All those articles are already appropriately categorised. An eponymous category is unnecessary. AusLondonder (talk) 13:45, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedia:GLAM/TP participants (staff)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. charlotte 👸♥ 20:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is C2D for the most part. Gonnym (talk) 13:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have no issue with the renaming if the new name better fits the standard for GLAM staff participation. Do other GLAMs involved in Wiki GLAM projects here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Projects also have staff contributor categories? Einebillion (talk) 21:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Children of Clint Eastwood

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 6#Category:Children of Clint Eastwood

Category:Children of Charlie Chaplin

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 6#Category:Children of Charlie Chaplin

Category:Wives of Charlie Chaplin

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Category:1500 V DC multiple units of New South Wales

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 6#Category:1500 V DC multiple units of New South Wales

Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Victoria (state)

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Category:List of Clinics in South Africa

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 20:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I suspect this was intended as an article space list of clinics in South Africa. As a category, it doesn't make sense unless we retitle it Category:Lists of clinics in South Africa (note the plural) but such a category would presumably include no article other than List of hospitals in South Africa (and even that one is questionable as a hospital and a clinic are different things). Pichpich (talk) 01:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PichpichIt was meant as a category since we don't have any categorising clinics in South Africa. Maybe we can rename it to Clinics in South Africa or South African clinics. Bobbyshabangu talk 02:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right. Then it should be Category:Clinics in South Africa but is there a need for that? Is there really a number of articles about South African clinics? There is Category:Clinics but the national subcategories all have at least three entries. Pichpich (talk) 02:57, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Baseball pitching

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The result of the discussion was: rename. charlotte 👸♥ 20:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per WP:C2C; opposed at speedy a reason I didn't really understand. matches sister category Category:Batting (baseball). Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Ivangorod

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People from Narva. charlotte 👸♥ 20:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 11:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Merge target?
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Category:Golden Raspberry Award winners

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 20:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This and variations have been deleted in the past per WP:OCAWARD, may even qualify as a speedy? See Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_January_22#Category:Golden_Raspberry_Award_winners, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_November_22#Category:Worst_Actor_Golden_Raspberry_Award_winners, Zaathras (talk) 22:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why delete something like this? There are many people who have won the Razzies and I just want to list who has won at least one of them. Vinnylospo (talk) 22:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep I don't see why we should get rid of it because it was removed in the past. Vinnylospo (talk) 22:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is literally a criteria for speedy deletion Template:Db-g4, which even bypasses the need of a discussion such as this. Be grateful you were granted the courtesy of one. Zaathras (talk) 22:41, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok Vinnylospo (talk) 22:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All good arguments for notability of the article, not so much this category. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the past discussions I linked to above, one of the recent results was "listify, then delete." The topic of Razzies are notable, even in list form. But categorizing people by winning an award for (perceived) badness in film is not a defining or meaningful characteristic. Category criteria is not the same as article criteria. See WP:COPDEF. Zaathras (talk) 22:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Zaathras, someone just added [[Category:Saturday Night Live hosts]] to Donald Trump. There's also [[Category:American people of the War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)]] with Biden, Bush, Trump, and three people I'd have to look up. Those categories don't seem more defining or meaningful as this one to me, based on "not everything a celebrity does after becoming famous warrants categorization". (I normally ignore categories being added to and deleted from that page.) Space4Time3Continuum2x🖖 15:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is an WP:OTHERSTUFF argument. Also, you don't have to wrap categories in nowiki tags, just stick a colon at the beginning, e.g. [[:Category:Saturday Night Live hosts]] renders as Category:Saturday Night Live hosts - -clickable, but does not categorize the page we're on as such. Also also, the SNL category is up for deletion now, and I am considering requesting that the creator be banned from further creations. Zaathras (talk) 00:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Biographies of world leaders tend to be poorly categorized because they're involved with so many things that would be defining for other people, but clearly aren't to them. So, even when the category itself is fine, it just isn't meaningful in those cases. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Zaathras, I was just pointing out another category added to the 70 or so at Donald Trump. Quite a few of them would probably fail WP:COPDEF. E.g., Category:Republican Party (United States) presidential nominees which has less information than List of United States Republican Party presidential tickets. Space4Time3Continuum2x🖖 16:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suggesting that being a nominee for a major political party of a nation is nondefining is nonsensical. Zaathras (talk) 17:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Per nom, this category in various guises has been nominated and deleted repeatedly before. It keeps coming back and here it is again. Nothing has yet changed about its problems. It is rarely defining, often not notable and frequently isn't mentioned on the articles it ends up on. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 17:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete.
    • I'll never be accused of being a category expert, so maybe I shouldn't be here. But I don't see the point of a category that merely pulls information from a group of list articles, consolidating it into another "list". That's largely just information redundancy, and cost exceeds nonzero reader benefit.
    • Anybody who knows me will tell you I'm all about process, often maddeningly so to other editors. If this was a process violation as asserted above, I !vote SNOW Delete on that basis alone, and my preceding bullet point is moot.
    • What might make a little more sense: Category:Golden Raspberry Award, its members being the set of Wikipedia articles about the Golden Raspberry Award. I dunno. That's a different category discussion, obviously, since there is not currently any category to discuss. ―Mandruss ☎ 03:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think it’s good to categorize this stuff as they did win an award. Yes it’s an ironic award but it’s still an award. If you want, I could be in favor of making it more defining. Vinnylospo (talk) 22:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Delete Per WP:G4. This doesn't pass WP:OCAWARD. It's certainly possible to accidentally recreate a deleted category with slightly different wording, in this case the cat name is exactly the same as past iterations so a notice should have popped up. - RevelationDirect (talk) 15:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete per WP:G4. Fails WP:OCAWARD as has been demonstrated previously. --woodensuperman 10:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:John Steinbeck Award recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 20:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD: Seems like a relatively niche award and receiving it is not a defining characteristic for the vast majority (if not all) of the recipients (the award is not even mentioned in the article for most of them). Felida97 (talk) 21:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ikusaka, Nagano

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Category:Cities and towns in Kiphire district

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Category:Artists represented by Shannon Associates

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 20:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NOTDEF: The talent agency by whom an artist is represented/managed is not defining charateristic (the talent agency doesn't have an article either). Felida97 (talk) 19:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films with a limited theatrical release

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 5#Category:Films with a limited theatrical release

Category:Modular firearms

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). charlotte 👸♥📱 18:12, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is zero reasoning behind what firearms are included here - almost every modern firearm would be deemed "modular" under the reasoning given yet only a select few are included here. A completely nonsense list - an example of LISTCRUFT. Elshad (talk) 14:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Christianity in Sussex

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Category:Indian People's Theatre Association people

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 1#Category:Indian People's Theatre Association people


Category:Balloons (entertainment)

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Mixture of various topics with an odd disambiguation. Main section in Balloon no longer exists, instead having multiple subsections about various uses for decoration or toys. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nineveh

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The result of the discussion was: split and title the new category Category:Archaeologists of Nineveh. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is not a people category per WP:COPSEP. Subcat can then be added to Category:Archaeologists by region of study. --woodensuperman 12:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Joseon scholar-officials

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) charlotte 👸♥📱 18:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should split this category, as a non-defining intersection. There's no parent scholar-officials Mason (talk) 02:44, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Pitcairn Islands people convicted of rape

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) charlotte 👸♥📱 18:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should broaden this category because there's no parent category Pitcairn Islands criminals, and I think that creating a parent category right now would just be redudant Mason (talk) 01:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the category is legitimate, although there are questions about what categories it should be under. I now think it shouldn't be under "British people convicted of rape" because people from the British Overseas Territories aren't classified as British people on Wikipedia, there are various categories relating to these territories. PatGallacher (talk) 13:52, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:Pitcairn Islands criminals and Category:Sex offenders from British Overseas Territories. Pitcairn Islands the least populous territory in the world, with only 35 people as of the latest census. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Category:Washington Football Team currentteam parameter articles

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). charlotte 👸♥📱 18:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Superseded by Category:Washington Commanders currentteam parameter articles, the current name of the team. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a redirect. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There should never be any further use of this since the team was renamed. There are no other categories for old NFL team names either. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Was not tagged; I will do so. Thoughts on the suggestion to keep a redirect?
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Relisting comment: See above relisting comment: Keep as a redirect?
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Delete. This category seems to only be added by Template:Infobox NFL biography, if that is the case, not only is a redirect not useful, it's completely pointless and a misunderstanding of why that category exists. If it's being added by something else (which isn't documented or linked from), then please explain. Gonnym (talk) 20:17, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament Final Four venues

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). charlotte 👸♥📱 18:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCVENUE. This is a clear example of sorting a venue by an event it hosted. User:Namiba 22:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Merge or delete?
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There does not seem to be any opposition to deletion or suggestions for a merger.--User:Namiba 16:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets basketball venues

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Category:GMA Network personalities

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Category:ABS-CBN personalities

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Category:Buildings and structures by year of demolition

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
463 more annual/decade/century categories (added 31 Oct)
Nominator's rationale: This category branch was originally intended to be the opposite of 'Category:Buildings and structures by year of completion', i.e. to categorise buildings by the date they ceased to exist. However, the root category Category:Demolished buildings and structures at the top now indicates 'that were deliberately demolished'. Indeed, demolition normally implies cases where a building has been deliberately demolished by humans. However, buildings can also be destroyed by accidental fire, natural disaster, or simply crumbling from old age. In the current form, however, all these cases should not be included in this branch. But there are no other "by date" alternatives for them, so they are probably placed in this category anyway, even though the title contradicts that. I think this branch is unnecessarily narrow, and it would be right to expand it to include any kind of building destruction. The same applies to every nested category, as well as Category:Buildings and structures by decade of demolition, Category:Buildings and structures by century of demolition, Category:Sports venues by year of demolition branches. By the way, on Wiki Commons these categories are already titled as "destroyed". Solidest (talk) 23:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Solidest: You will need to use Qwerfjkl's mass CfD tool to add every year subcategory therein. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, done. By the way, while I was looking through the category tree, I noticed that many nested branches already use the word ‘destroyed’: Category:British country houses destroyed in the 20th century, Category:Buildings and structures destroyed by war, Category:Buildings and structures destroyed in the September 11 attacks. Solidest (talk) 03:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please list all of the nominated categories in this CfD. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. – Fayenatic London 17:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is Category:Buildings and structures demolished as a result of the 2011 Christchurch earthquake part of this request? The page has been tagged and the link to "this category's entry" points to this page, but the section-specific part of the link seems broken. Nurg (talk) 19:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sorry, now added to this listing along with sports venues demolished. @Solidest: please insert the section link in the 1= parameter on the tagged pages. Or I could just move this discussion back to the top of the page; I moved it to the bottom because a few years ago I was told that some browsers don't handle a large collapsed section well, but that could be an obsolete issue. – Fayenatic London 21:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Fayenatic london: on my mobile phone large collapsed sections still make it messy. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks, Fayenatic london. I've added all the missing ones to the list, as well as added 1= with the discussion section name to all of them. I've also removed "Buildings and structures demolished as a result of the 2011 Christchurch earthquake" from the list, as in this case there is another existing "destroyed buildings" category. Solidest (talk) 01:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Ah, decades and century parents, thank you! I see that no-one has built equivalents for sports venues – probably rightly so.
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  • Strong oppose I missed this discussion, but I've done a lot of tagging of demolished buildings into categories and I strongly disagree with this entire principle, apart from the top category. First, "demolish" means to "to completely destroy a building, especially in order to use the land for something else," meaning that it does encompass buildings which are destroyed non-voluntarily. Secondly, a "destroyed" building in usage typically means a building that was rendered useless due to some sort of external factor. A quick search shows "destroyed in fire", discussion of building collapses, or discussion about the process of demolition. There's a reason building infoboxes uses "demolished" for date instead of "destroyed..." - it is a far more precise term. SportingFlyer T·C 05:17, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Greater Anglia franchise railway stations

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I am renaming this because these two train operating company (TOC) names are out of place in category:Railway stations in Great Britain by train operating company with the rest in the format 'Railway stations served by [TOC]'. JuniperChill (talk) 22:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since 2014 then there have been several other CfDs that have resulted in other members being renamed using the Railway stations served by xx format, e.g:
  1. Category:Railway stations served by London Midland to Category:Railway stations served by West Midlands Trains in 2018
  2. Category:Railway stations served by Virgin Trains East Coast to Category:Railway stations served by London North Eastern Railway in 2018
  3. Category:Railway stations served by Arriva Trains Wales to Category:Railway stations served by Transport for Wales Rail in 2018
  4. Category:Railway stations served by East Midlands Trains to Category:Railway stations served by East Midlands Railway in 2019
  5. Category:Railway stations served by Virgin Trains to Category:Railway stations served by Avanti West Coast in 2019
  6. Category:Railway stations served by Abellio ScotRail to Category:Railway stations served by ScotRail in 2022. Grenfruy (talk) 03:32, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -more inline with other categories. Difficultly north (talk) Time, department skies 10:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suppport per the results of the other discussions that are linked here. Plus, the current name avoids confusion for those of us unfamiliar with UK railways. When I see "Greater Anglia franchise railway stations", my first thought is that it means franchise railway stations in "Greater Anglia", which might be East Anglia plus places not quite so far east. "Railway stations served by Greater Anglia" makes it clear that it's a stations-by-railway category, not a stations-in-place category. Nyttend (talk) 04:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - rail franchising effectively ended as of May 2021 (de facto if not de jure) and has been replaced with PSCs. Whatever changes may be made by the present govt, it seems pretty clear that franchising is (thankfully) consigned to the dustbin of history. Lamberhurst (talk) 16:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Adi Lautman Interdisciplinary Program for Outstanding Students alumni

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The result of the discussion was: soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the category's undeletion. charlotte 👸♥ 00:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF: The notable alumni of this program can be divided into two broad groups of roughly equal size, artists/creatives (mainly writers) and academics, and I don't think there are many (if any) in either group for whom the argument could be made that being part of this program is a defining characteristic. Felida97 (talk) 21:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Camp Rising Sun alumni

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 00:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEF: Attending this summer camp when they were 14-16 years old is not a defining characteristic for any of the members in this category. Felida97 (talk) 21:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Awarded with the Bachelor's Degree Extraordinary Award

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 00:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD: Almost all notable recipients are politicians and receiving this award for academic achievement during their undergraduate studies is certainly not a definining charateristic for them (for approx. 50% of them, the award is not even mentioned in their article). Felida97 (talk) 20:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Latvian people from the Russian Empire

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Category:Kawajima, Saitama

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 00:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a private airfield, both of which are already appropriately categorised. Unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 15:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Santiago, Chile

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Category:Force-feeding

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The result of the discussion was: split. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:COPSEP, as this has a mixture of biographical and non-biographical articles at present --woodensuperman 13:18, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:National Heroes of Saint Kitts and Nevis

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The result of the discussion was: merge. charlotte 👸♥ 00:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category. Both categories are about the recipients of this high state honour: Order of the National Hero (Saint Kitts and Nevis) (article title is stable afacs). The official name of the order is "Order of National Hero" (see National Honours Act that established it), so the article title is probably the correct choice and the proposed target the category to keep. Since the recipients seem to often be referred to as "National Heroes" (see Heroes' Day#Saint Kitts and Nevis or the goverment's website, and the linked law includes the statement "... Bradshaw shall be entered into the records as the first National Hero."), I propose merging and leaving a redirect, but maybe there's an argument for deleting Category:National Heroes of Saint Kitts and Nevis or both (although I would say the usual arguments against National Hero categories, WP:OCAWARD or WP:SHAREDNAME, don't apply here). Felida97 (talk) 11:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bass drum players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. charlotte 👸♥ 00:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not a defining characteristic for any of these people. As percussionists and drummers, playing the bass drum is a given. Why? I Ask (talk) 06:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional mammoths

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Category:Deaths in England by region

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Deaths in England. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer Mason (talk) 03:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mohouidae

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The result of the discussion was: merge. charlotte 👸♥ 00:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Mohouidae is a monogeneric family, so there's no point in having a category for it. Category:Mohoua is sufficient. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:National artists of Thailand

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Category:FL-Class cricket articles of Mid-importance

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to WikiProject Cricket's assessment scheme, All lists (including FLs) are assessed as Low-Importance only. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 17:21, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Same for,
Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 17:25, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vestrian24Bio: You only put the CFD tag on one of the categories. You are supposed to tag every category that is being considered for deletion. Also, I don't think we typically delete categories like these. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: All have now been tagged. Thoughts on the merits of the proposal / is it the case that we don't typically delete categories like these?
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  • Comment: These categories are automatically populated by the WikiProject template, so deleting them via CfD won't work; it'll only create red category links on talk pages. If the WikiProject standard is as you say, the incorrect assessments should be corrected first. However, I'm not seeing anything to that effect at the linked assessment page. It only says lists are excluded from Top and High class. The mention of cricket-related lists under Low class is only as an example, not a prescription. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Just noting that four of these categories are empty. Liz Read! Talk! 20:56, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Vestrian24Bio: I see that you manually emptied the nominated FL-class categories into Low-importance, e.g. [12]. If you're sure that you understood WP:CRICIS correctly, you'd have to do the same on the lists. The empty categories could then be deleted. I have no idea whether there is any feature in the meta template for project banners that would allow a quality class (List) to override an importance class that was explicitly specified e.g. as Mid, and force it to use Low instead. – Fayenatic London 15:48, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I see what you mean, I will raise this question at the Module talk:WikiProject banner and see if there's a way to suppress the importance assessment. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Martin has confirmed that it is possible, and I do not read the current discussion as opposing deletion. If you object to deletion, please speak up :)
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Category:Endangered species by reason they are threatened

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Category:Dumaresq, New South Wales

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:34, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a defunct train station. Unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 13:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The main article is already categorised in Category:Towns in New England (New South Wales), a region largely overlapping with the Northern Tablelands. AusLondonder (talk) 15:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on AusLondonder's latest comment?
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Category:Dynasties of the Rajputs

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The result of the discussion was: rename. charlotte 👸♥ 00:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Simpler, more concise and more common construct. PadFoot (talk) 16:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Was not tagged; I will do so. If there are no further comments in a week, we are all set for renaming.
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  • Rename per nom. Would be consistent with List of Rajput dynasties and states (stable article title), which seems to be the corresponding/closest main article (Rajput dynasties redirects there), and with other names in the category tree (looking at the other categories in the direct parent categories, ethnic groups are always in front of "dynasty"/"dynasties", while for categories named "dynasties of x", x is always a region). Felida97 (talk) 22:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Scindia dynasty of Gwalior

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The result of the discussion was: rename. charlotte 👸♥ 00:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary disambiguation. PadFoot (talk) 16:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Category was not tagged; I will do so. If there are no further comments in a week, we are all set for renaming.
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Category:Slavery by war

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The result of the discussion was: partial merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The contents of this category seem to be related to wars about slavery rather than a category that breaks down Slavery by individual wars Mason (talk) 01:54, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I meant to keep this category separate from Category:Slavery during wars to keep the supercategory more focused on the subject of wartime slavery in general. AHI-3000 (talk) 02:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Armenian men by century

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There category only has 1 century in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 00:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American Roman Catholic bishops by contiguous area of the United States

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October 27

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Category:Worms (obsolete taxon)

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Category:Female models from Erie, Pennsylvania

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing two articles, over-categorisation by location and occupation. AusLondonder (talk) 22:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AusLondonder: Isn't this a dual upmerge rather than a split? jlwoodwa (talk) 22:25, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Reedsville, West Virginia

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 20:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American rums

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The result of the discussion was: rename all and purge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Manually Purging Non-US subcategories
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATNAME
Based on the parent categories, this is intended for rums from the U.S.A. but the name is ambiguous enought that it's also being used for the whole Western Hemisphere. The naming formats under Category:Rum by country are about evenly split so this didn't qualify for a speedy rename. (No objection if someone wants to also create a better named rum subcat of Category:Americas, but I'm not proposing such a split.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
comment the other *an rums subcategories in Category:Rum by country should also be renamed at this time to achieve complete consistency. Hmains (talk) 18:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those categories are now tagged so they can be considered as part of this nomination. RevelationDirect (talk) 19:12, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename all per nom. It seems that there is an ambiguity, and the other subcategories with the "Rum produced in X" convention are in the majority. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:54, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buynaksk

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category only has the eponymous city and a page History of the Jews in Buynaksk. There's no need to have a category with only two pages that are already interlinked like this. Mason (talk) 17:50, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This category exists in four other languages. I think over time this category in the English version will grow. There will be more than two pages.
Boxes12 (talk) 23:12, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Caucasian Studies of the Russian Empire

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure what to make of this category. It seems to be Ethnographers from the Russian Empire who study "Caucasian Studies". I don't know if this is really a defining category, but if it is then it should be renamed to Caucasologists from the Russian Empire. Mason (talk) 17:41, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename. I agree with you. It is a great idea. Go ahead!
Boxes12 (talk) 22:53, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Palestine ethnographers

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This should make it a little clearer that these are ethnographers of a specific subject/region rather than nationality Mason (talk) 17:37, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films set in summer camps

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 5#Category:Films set in summer camps

Category:Real tennis competition navigational boxes

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Very small category, so it makes sense to use a more general category with more room for growth. The alternative is to create Category:Real tennis navigational boxes and place Category:Real tennis competition navigational boxes in it. I don't think that option is very helpful. Pichpich (talk) 17:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Centibillionaires

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:56, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't think this is defining. These folks are regularly described as billionaires, not Centibillionaires. I'd love to be wrong, but this feels more like an interesting fact, rather than a defining feature. Mason (talk) 16:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Montcalm, West Virginia

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 16:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question: Can this category be populated? Because small cat is depreciated. Mason (talk) 17:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Rowlesburg, West Virginia

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 16:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question: Can this category be populated? Because small cat is depreciated. Mason (talk) 17:02, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Ridgeley, West Virginia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 16:54, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question: Can this category be populated? Because small cat is depreciated. Mason (talk) 17:02, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Yeniseysk

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People from Yeniseyk and mutatis mutandis. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about an airport, both of which are already appropriately categorised. AusLondonder (talk) 14:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Haebaru, Okinawa

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:58, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category for a town containing only an article about a disused railway line (which is already appropriately categorised). AusLondonder (talk) 14:05, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Actors from Beckley, West Virginia

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Actors from Raleigh County, West Virginia and Category:People from Beckley, West Virginia. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 13:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Milan, Illinois

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:34, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a company based in the town. Both are already appropriately categorised. AusLondonder (talk) 11:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kudat

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about an airport. Better categorised in the parent district category. AusLondonder (talk) 09:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bibai

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only an article about a lake which is already appropriately categorised. AusLondonder (talk) 07:28, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ashoro, Hokkaido

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only an article about a museum which is already appropriately categorised. AusLondonder (talk) 07:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Uezds of Vitebsk Governorate

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, every of these categories only contains the eponymous article and a subcategory, this is not helpful for navigation. There is no reason to merge, the eponymous articles are already in Category:Uezds of Vitebsk Governorate and the subcategories are already in Category:People from Vitebsk Governorate. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buildings and structures in Rivash, Iran

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only a single article, unhelpful for navigation. Merge to larger parent. AusLondonder (talk) 07:04, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nykøbing Sjælland

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a train station already appropriately categorised in Category:Transport in Odsherred Municipality. AusLondonder (talk) 06:13, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Merlo, Buenos Aires

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and a football club. Better categorised within the partido category. AusLondonder (talk) 05:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:British male tennis players

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 5#Category:British male tennis players


October 26

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Category:Private schools Northern Beaches Sydney

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 3#Category:Private schools Northern Beaches Sydney

Category:All Elite Wrestling personnel

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The result of the discussion was: keep and include all personnel. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This should not be a category because AEW roster is not permanent. Also, both List of All Elite Wrestling personnel and Template:All Elite Wrestling cover the current roster. A similar category was deleted in July 2024. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 14#Category:WWE wrestlers for the details. Mann Mann (talk) 08:39, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. A wrestling promotion =/= McDonald. Dozens of wrestlers and wrestling personalities have worked for AEW, and many of them just appeared in one match or dark matches. And don't forget cameo appearances. As I mentioned, the navbox and the list cover this topic. Plus List of former All Elite Wrestling personnel exists too. --Mann Mann (talk) 22:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 19:31, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Settlement of the pro-Japanese collaboration

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:10, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not sure what the best name for this category is; it's currently grammatically incorrect, and doesn't match parent category Category:Korean collaborators with Imperial Japan. seefooddiet (talk) 18:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I do not see Marcocapelle's comment as opposing a rename; if anyone does oppose a rename please speak up :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alta California before 1824

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 3#Alta California before 1824

Category:Online-only games

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 3#Category:Online-only games


Category:Republican cities of Latvia

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, according to Administrative divisions of Latvia the correct name is state city. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chaoyang County

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Largely duplicative category containing a single article. Unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 15:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Skelton-in-Cleveland

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a long-defunct railway station. Merging to parent is more suitable categorisation. AusLondonder (talk) 15:05, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hatherleigh

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a long-defunct railway station. Merging to parent is more suitable categorisation. AusLondonder (talk) 14:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Benwick

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only an article about a village already in the parent category and a defunct railway, better categorised in the parent. AusLondonder (talk) 14:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:MultiVersus characters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I feel like, unlike Category:Super Smash Bros. fighters, this category would not be considered WP:DEFINING for any of the characters involved. (Oinkers42) (talk) 14:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Towns and villages in Latvia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with two (very obvious) subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Vehicle-building video games

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm not getting much that confirms a "vehicle-building" genre really exists. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Secernentea

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WoRMS and the article on Secernentea agree that this taxon is no longer in use. jlwoodwa (talk) 01:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:SubGenii by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer Mason (talk) 00:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hong Kong–Saudi Arabia relations

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. This category is extremely narrow intersection that really doesn't have sufficient pages to population it. (I looked) Mason (talk) 00:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films scored by Naved Parvez

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Thorough discussion; unlikely a WP:RELIST will help. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Naved Parvez was deleted in 2020. This category was created in 2024 and has 9 articles. I'm not sure if this category is needed as Parvez doesn't have an article. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Further back

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See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Previous 22 to 42 days and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Previous 43 to 63 days.
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