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Caitlyn Jenner

Change the name of Bruce Jenner to Caitlyn Jenner because that's her name. 96.28.104.1 (talk) 02:30, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not name used at the time of marriage to Kris. This article is about Kris Jenner, not her ex. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:38, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reason why this guy has been permitted to essentially make himself the lord of this post without any oversight?

People have expressed genuine concerns surrounding the repeated misnaming of Caitlyn Jenner - concerns that (as several people have pointed out) ARE SUPPORTED BY WIKIPEDIA POLICY on how trans people's identity's should be dealt with - and Geraldo here has basically taken it up on himself to just say "no" to all of those concerns and shout down any discussion that disagrees with his take. 2600:1004:B215:14B9:DD5C:4A72:5435:8D2A (talk) 19:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Read the archives and how the consensus for the current version of the article was formed including the RfC that was held to support it. Nothing has changed since then. Also, to reiterate, this article is about Kris Jenner, not her ex-husband. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:15, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kendall and Kylie's articles both refer to her as "Caitlyn" though. We should at least add a note about it. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 21:54, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is appropriately and well covered in the article at the "Marriages, relationships, and family" section and mentioned in the lead section. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:09, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I meant in the infobox, like on another article (I don't remember which one). Both Kendall and Kylie's articles refer to her as "Caitlyn". Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 21:48, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In those articles that is the current name of the person who is their father. In this article in the infobox we have the name of the person Kris was married to for the full duration of their marriage. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:03, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this logic holds up. Caitlyn Jenner is still the same person who was married to Kris, regardless of what name she has/had. The guidelines on gender identity say "In articles on works or other activity by a living trans or non-binary person before transition, use their current name as the primary name (in prose, tables, lists, infoboxes, etc.), unless they prefer their former name be used for past events." Unless you have reason to believe she prefers her old name to be used for past events, I think it would be perfectly reasonable to change the name in the infobox. Gravelove (talk) 02:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change Age

She is now 67 years old. Please change her age. Thank you very much. 2603:7000:7700:67D:E118:D61D:B385:8DD9 (talk) 05:58, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Calculated by Wiki software and automatically updated. May be a slight delay until the system gets around to it. Purging page cache forced the update. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:03, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Change “Jenner has ten grandchildren.” to “Jenner has twelve grandchildren.” DNAnerd30 (talk) 02:45, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Actualcpscm (talk) 18:00, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

grandchildren

it says Kris has 10 grandchildren, but she actually has 12. Kourtney has 3, Kim has 4, Khloe has 2, Rob has 1, and Kylie has 2 for a total of 12. 2603:8081:150C:5C00:2455:BA0B:D946:7AF5 (talk) 04:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Kris’ mother remarried, giving her a step brother Steven, not a half brother as they do not share one parent. He is her step brother. 2607:FEA8:7CDD:AF00:F92C:29F0:10E4:C27C (talk) 03:12, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 05:00, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::::::I meant in the infobox, like on another article (I don't remember which one). Both Kendall and Kylie's articles refer to her as "Caitlyn". [[User:Blubabluba9990|Blubabluba9990]] ([[User talk:Blubabluba9990|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Blubabluba9990|contribs]]) 21:48, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 :::::::In those articles that is the current name of the person who ''is'' their father. In this article in the infobox we have the name of the person Kris ''was'' married to for the full duration of their marriage. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 23:03, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
+::::::::I don't think this logic holds up. Caitlyn Jenner is still the same person who was married to Kris, regardless of what name she has/had. The [[guidelines on gender identity]] say "In articles on works or other activity by a living trans or non-binary person before transition, use their current name as the primary name (in prose, tables, lists, infoboxes, etc.), unless they prefer their former name be used for past events." Unless you have reason to believe she prefers her old name to be used for past events, I think it would be perfectly reasonable to change the name in the infobox. [[User:Gravelove|Gravelove]] ([[User talk:Gravelove|talk]]) 02:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 == Change Age ==