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A fact from List of national flowers appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 April 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Foxglove was chosen as the county flower for four different U.K. counties in a competition run by the plant conservation charity Plantlife in 2002?

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On 14 September 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Floral emblem to List of national flowers. The result of the discussion was moved.

Merge (I)

This page and plants chosen to represent geographical areas cover the same topic. I feel they should be merged. Any views? SP-KP 13:22, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support Merge. --Melburnian 14:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support Merge. --Mais oui! 15:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge (II)

"It has been suggested that National emblem#Plants (National flora) be merged into this article or section. (Discuss)"

Support merge There's a duplication of content and potentially a large amount of information which needs its own aticle as presented here --Melburnian (talk) 09:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Canada

Re-organized Canadian provinces and territories in order from western-most to eastern-most, and added Alberta. --Asnider (talk) 02:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

China

China has no official floral emblem

it has been discussed in the People Congress for years, but so far no resolution has been passed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.89.156.38 (talk) 07:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ROC

The Republic of China government, which overthrew the Qing empire in 1911, named the plum blossom (also known as ume) the national floral emblem for its fortitude and courage (plum blossoms bloom in the dead of winter) and continues to recognize it as such to this day. However, having lost the Chinese civil war to the current communist government, this official recognition of the plum blossom as a national floral symbol is now limited to Taiwan, where the Republic of China government resides in exile from Mainland China.

This is totally wrong and misleading, ROC adopted ume as national floral emblem in 1964.--刻意(Kèyì) 01:51, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spain and the Carnation

This article is a mix of fantasy and romantic embellishment, as well as giving facts that are more likely from Washington Irvine or a bad Francoist propaganda movie. The "seedy side"? "Gypsy's lapels"? "thrown into bullrings"? "Caprice"? Not really neutral, information-centred terms, as well as far removed from reality and bordering on offensive. I suggest it be reduced to the bare minimum.Will (talk) 11:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Error

In the first box, it is labeled "Africa" but contains non-African divisions like Sikkim and Afghanistan. This needs to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.228.200.232 (talk) 22:18, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Palestine

"Palestine's national flower would be 'Palestinian Poppy'."
Palestine has no official floral emblem.
In addition, there is no flower called "Palestinian Poppy",
The link actually redirects to "Anemone coronaria" and there is no reference to the alleged flower in any source I could find other than this section.
"Palestinian flowers reflect the country itself"
It's a matter of debate, but Palestine isn't actually a country.
"its ancientness/antiquity, its gentleness,"
The term "Palestinian People" is less than 50 years old, so I cant really understand this "ancientness" part.
"and the fact that it is at the same time part of the Mediterranean basin to the west and part of the vast desert to the east."
how does THAT has anything to do with flowers?

This whole section is just a bunch of bogus claims.

What qualifies Nasser Abufarha to choose the national flower of Palestine? --ארינמל (talk) 21:37, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Floral emblem of Belgium

Dear,

Being Belgian,I've never heard of a national flower for my country so I was asking myself from where was coming the red poppy referenced on this article (unsourced) ?

I agree that the red poppy is a common flower here in Belgium but I'm not aware of anything official about it (or even unofficial).

The only flowers "recognized" are the swamp iris present on the flag of the Brussel-Capital region https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapeau_de_la_R%C3%A9gion_de_Bruxelles-Capitale, traditionally recognized as the floral emblem of this region, and the Gaillardia, official floral emblem of Wallonia region since the 12/03/2016 source.

If nobody comes with a source or an explanation I suggest to delete this flower from this list.

I guess it's coming from the[Remembrance poppy] and to[the poem In Flanders Fields], but not to the country itself.

Benzebuth198 (talk) 13:19, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds a reasonable assumption. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:01, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced entries

This talkpage is full of complaints of readers who find their own countries getting ascribed "national flowers" they've never heard of. The entire article is a nightmare of unsourced claims. It gives the impression as if the huge majority of countries worldwide had national flowers or floral "emblems". Why would they? As this problem has apparently been festering for years, I'm going to take the radical step to eliminate each and every entry in the list that isn't reliably sourced. Which might well amount to more than 90% of the page; I don't know yet. Please reinclude only properly sourced entries (and note that websites such as https://www.theflowerexpert.com/content/aboutflowers/national-flowers do not count). Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:54, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My edit was reverted [1] by DarkDancer06 (talk · contribs), without participation here on talk, with the argument that "not every entry is unsourced; the one I found for the floral emblem of Spain is backed up by others". This revert is unacceptable on three levels: first, if "not every" entry was unsourced, the proper reaction would have been to reinstate only the sourced ones; instead, DarkDancer06 reinstated the entire section on European countries, including all the patently unsourced ones. Second, the Spanish entry in fact is unsourced, if I'm not quite mistaken. It has a single footnote, to a Blogspot page, but that page (unless I'm missing something) supports only the story about how the carnation was introduced to Spain by Charles I, but not the crucial claim that this gives it the status of a national emblem today. Third, a Blogspot page is of course not a reliable source in the first place.

As a temporary compromise, I'm going to reinstate my removal with the exception of the Spanish entry, but I'm tagging that one with {citation needed} and {unreliable source}; I will remove it again in a few days if the sourcing doesn't get improved by then. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:28, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There are other sources that back up the information about Charles I introducing the first carnation to Spain, but they're all in Spanish. Another source is a Spanish TV series, but I can't include that. I'll look through the other sources and try and decide which one is more reliable. Thank you. User:DarkDancer06 User talk:DarkDancer06 22:32, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just to make sure there's no misunderstanding: sourcing for the information "about Charles I introducing the first carnation" isn't really the main issue here. What we need, first and foremost, is sourcing for the contention that the carnation is a national emblem. That is quite orthogonal to the truth of the Charles I story (which, incidentally, I have no particular reason to doubt). Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:45, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh right okay, I understand now. Yes I can't find any "reliable sources" that state the red carnation is the national flower of Spain, though I know it is. Thank you! User:DarkDancer06 User talk:DarkDancer06 13:55, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hong Kong and Bauhinia

Why is Hong Kong not in the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.40.211.133 (talk) 04:23, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Belarus

The (unofficial) national flower of Belarus is wild blue flax,^[1] Centaurea.

Flax is known only as a cultivated plant.
Centaurea = cornflower etc.

^ James Minahan. The complete guide to national symbols and emblems, Vol. 1. Greenwood Press. 2009.

What is it? Creuzbourg (talk) 12:56, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Would this read better as a table?

The current layout feels extremely messy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by An anonymous username, not my real name (talk • contribs) 13:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 September 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ❯❯❯ Raydann ^(Talk) 00:40, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Floral emblem → List of national flowers – The present name is very confusing, and suggests floral emblems of any kind, but this is the list of national flowers, a redirect which already goes here. The rename would be WP:CONSISTENT with most of the rest of what is listed at Lists of national symbols. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:23, 14 September 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – Material Works 16:58, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The article includes subnational floral emblems as well. Will that be an issue? SigPig2 (talk) 03:34, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment². The legislation that the US Senate passed and Pres Reagan signed used the term "floral emblem". It also seems to be used on *some* US websites, like Merriam-Webster, Collins, Rose.org, https://www.sos.mo.gov/symbol/floral (obviously, someone showed them)... so I don't think USAns find it confusing.

My own preference would be to have this article just be about Floral emblems in general, and then List of floral emblems -- again, national only or subnational as well?:). SigPig2 (talk) 04:01, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. This page is a list of national flowers, not an explanation of what a floral emblem is.

--MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:58, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose, per my above. SigPig2 (talk) 04:03, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

support per nom. 'National flower' and 'Floral emblem' mean the same thing—blindlynx 14:12, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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[Minahan-1] James Minahan. The complete guide to national symbols and emblems, Vol. 1. Greenwood Press. 2009.

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