Jump to content

Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment: Difference between revisions

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
Lilyfan87 (talk | contribs)
Line 104: Line 104:
:::Also check out [[End of the Line (Traveling Wilburys song)|End of the Line]] by the [[The Traveling Wilburys]]...[[Bob Dylan]] was actually in the band <s>and sang on that track.</s> cheers, [[User:10draftsdeep|10draftsdeep]] ([[User talk:10draftsdeep|talk]]) 19:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Also check out [[End of the Line (Traveling Wilburys song)|End of the Line]] by the [[The Traveling Wilburys]]...[[Bob Dylan]] was actually in the band <s>and sang on that track.</s> cheers, [[User:10draftsdeep|10draftsdeep]] ([[User talk:10draftsdeep|talk]]) 19:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::oops, I guess according to our article he didn't actually sing on this one! cheers, [[User:10draftsdeep|10draftsdeep]] ([[User talk:10draftsdeep|talk]]) 20:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::oops, I guess according to our article he didn't actually sing on this one! cheers, [[User:10draftsdeep|10draftsdeep]] ([[User talk:10draftsdeep|talk]]) 20:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== desprate houswives ==

so now I'm watchin [[despreate housewifes]] and the one who got cancer and wore a wig, she had 3 suns but now she only has 2, so I'm wondring what hapenned to the other one? [[User:Lilyfan87|Lilyfan87]] ([[User talk:Lilyfan87|talk]]) 21:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Revision as of 21:22, 24 September 2008

Welcome to the entertainment section
of the Wikipedia reference desk.
Select a section:
Want a faster answer?

Main page: Help searching Wikipedia

   

How can I get my question answered?

  • Select the section of the desk that best fits the general topic of your question (see the navigation column to the right).
  • Post your question to only one section, providing a short header that gives the topic of your question.
  • Type '~~~~' (that is, four tilde characters) at the end – this signs and dates your contribution so we know who wrote what and when.
  • Don't post personal contact information – it will be removed. Any answers will be provided here.
  • Please be as specific as possible, and include all relevant context – the usefulness of answers may depend on the context.
  • Note:
    • We don't answer (and may remove) questions that require medical diagnosis or legal advice.
    • We don't answer requests for opinions, predictions or debate.
    • We don't do your homework for you, though we'll help you past the stuck point.
    • We don't conduct original research or provide a free source of ideas, but we'll help you find information you need.



How do I answer a question?

Main page: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Guidelines

  • The best answers address the question directly, and back up facts with wikilinks and links to sources. Do not edit others' comments and do not give any medical or legal advice.
See also:


September 18

What are the origins of these visual shorthands?

Look at the bottom panel of [1]. Several pieces of visual shorthand are used - for example, the bubbles represent that the character is poisoned, while the crossed eyes show that the various guards are dead. But these certainly do not look like obvious symbols to use.

What is the origin of these agreed on representations? How universal are they? How come everyone knows them?--Fangz (talk) 00:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clicking that link gives me a 403 Forbidden. Algebraist 00:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This link works for me. Algebraist 00:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, gotta love Order of the Stick. The crossed eyes I have no idea about but believe they probably originated in old cartoons or comics. As for the bubbles, they've been seen in RPGs for a few years now and are pretty much a staple, along with green glowing. Avnas Ishtaroth drop me a line 01:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article on The Lexicon of Comicana might be interesting. As to the origins of the symbols, I think it's pretty clear that in each case some cartoonist invented the thing and others decided it was a good idea and copied it. --Anonymous, 03:50 UTC, September 18, 2008.
When I see bubbles, I think of them being drunk, not poisoned. --70.167.58.6 (talk) 21:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, y'know, alcohol is a poison. To me the bubbles mean she's woozy, whether from poison, concussion or some other cause. —Tamfang (talk) 07:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(Soccer?) football quote

I remember a football quote from somewhere, something like "Good strikeforces win games, but good defences win titles". Anyone know the exact quote and who said it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.13.1 (talk) 07:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a section title. Since you used the spelling "defences" and the term "striker" is used in soccer, I'm guessing that by "football" you meant soccer rather than American football. See football (word). --Anonymous, 09:12 UTC, September 12, 2008.
I'll note that football also has "offenses win games, defenses win championships", so it's likely a shared sentiment. — Lomn 15:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

comparing quotes

At the beginning of The Fog, Mr. Machen is telling a ghost story to some children, including Andy Wayne. Towards the end of the film, Stevie Wayne is describing the horrific night. In The Fog (2005 film), does Mr. Machen tell a different story? And how does Stevie Wayne describe the horrific night before? Are the quotes different? Can they be compared?72.229.139.13 (talk) 08:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Song in a bunch of commercials

There is a song that is used in a bunch of commercials lately, which has no lyrics, just music. In Canada, at least, it was used in advertisements for the Sarah Silverman Show, and lately it is also being used in the Nestea commercial where the guy is walking around and water shoots up everywhere he steps. I have also heard it in some other American commercial but I can't remember which one at the moment. I want to say it sounds like "Jewish music", whatever that might mean (possibly because I am associating it with Sarah Silverman?). Is that enough to work with? Does anyone know what that song is? Adam Bishop (talk) 13:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know the ads in question, but you might want to check adtunes.com or whatsthatcalled.com --LarryMac | Talk 13:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I checked those already. Adam Bishop (talk) 13:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is a very much random guess but Sigur Ros and Hoppipola was - for a period - used in a million and one adverts/tv trailers/documentary trailers in the Uk. It's not (as an actual song) entirely instrumental but the instrumental part was used in the adverts. I guess it could sound jewish-esque, though they're Icelandic if I remember correctly. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 14:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it would be them...I'm not great at identifying instruments but it sounds like there is a clarinet playing the melody, and a tuba in the background, if that helps. Adam Bishop (talk) 01:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If this is the Nestea ad you mean, I don't know what the song is, but maybe it will help someone else identify it. (Youtube link to Nestea: Fountain ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylNb-oUVvlQ) Crypticfirefly (talk) 01:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

cars used in "the saint" films

Hi, Could any one please help me. I'm trying to find out what make and model of car George Sanders drove in the Saint films he starred in. All I can find listed is from the Volvo P1800 that Roger Moore used and onwards from there. Many Thanks Popebenny (talk) 14:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be one of these: [2] Fribbler (talk) 14:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flying boat movie

Can anybody please remind me of the name of a black & white film in which there is a flying boat which contains a corridor and several side cabins - as in an old railway carriage. It might have had two decks and I think it had a common area like a drawing room. It might also have had an exterior walkway. Kittybrewster 14:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Such flying boats did exist: in fact were quite common at one time (though I don't think there was an exterior walk way in any real ones - the air is pretty cold at high altitude). See flying boat and Short Empire as an example. There might well have been many movies featuring them. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One is reminded of W. C. Fields's Never Give a Sucker an Even Break, in which the plane has sleeping berths like a train and an open-air observation deck, from which Fields's bottle of hooch falls. No exterior walkway, though. Deor (talk) 20:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One of the IMDb comments for Non-Stop New York (1937) mentions a "double-decker airplane with an outside deck(!)". Another states that it is a flying boat. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:35, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That is the one. Many thanks. Kittybrewster 14:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kidds TV Show

As a kid I used to watch a show, the basic premis was that a few people floated around in a hot air baloon type contraption. they often used the suffix -undo as in, is the sky blue? Corectomundo. they were not people but rather michelin tyre guy looking pink things. it was a cartoon, animated, but had a continuous storyline. any quesses?

Thn there was one more, about a boy in maybe Holland that travelled around with a St. Bernard dog that he had rescued from animal cruelty, the dog pulled a wagon of sorts. At one point the boy was mute, but it turned out that this was phsycosymatic, and he subsequintly regained his speach. He was blond. I watched both of these around the same time in South Africa. I think this one was dubbed from its native language into either english or Afrikaans. Any ideas? Thanks People. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.115.175.247 (talk) 15:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This calls for a link to dog cart and its featured image. I've always associated those with Belgium though. See also A Dog of Flanders story. Rmhermen (talk) 23:54, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


September 19

Model

So... anyone know who this is? (Possibly NSFW warning)

http://storage.canalblog.com/11/56/27891/7690841.jpg

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.176.35.163 (talk) 05:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, thanks for that. I may have to go and have a lie
Could it be Jessica Alba? --Richardrj talk email 10:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's definitely not Alba, but I don't recognise her. It's posted on this blog (note: link definitely NSFW) in an entry named Eduardo Cote Lamus, and the google translation makes the text read like it's poetry with no clue as to who it is. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 11:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, well that's interesting, doesn't appear to tell us much. Though that's an interesting link as well lol. 75.176.35.163 (talk) 13:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reminds me of Jolene Blalock or T'pol in Star Trek Enterprise. In her modeling pictures she has longer hair than in S.T. much like this shot. Might not be her, but hell, both are pretty fine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.115.175.247 (talk) 15:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Face kind of looks like Ana_Beatriz_Barros? --Haptic (talk) 23:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Look what I found... it's her --Haptic (talk) 02:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good spot. And listen to that guy with his "her arms are too thin" – pah! --Richardrj talk email 09:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ryder Cup scores

I'm looking for an online Ryder Cup scoreboard where I can view the status of all four matches being played at one time...on the Ryder Cup site, you seem only to be able to goto one match at a time to see the current score. I've tried other sites...I want to have a one-page view of the current matches...can anybody send me to such a link/scoreboard. Thanks if you can help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.134.43 (talk) 12:36, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this any good (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/live_scores/default.stm)? 194.221.133.226 (talk) 13:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Exactly. Thanks. Good on the BBC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.134.43 (talk) 13:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Title?

Hi, does anybody know the title of this song? (First one?)

http://www.downloads.nl/results/mp3/1/serpentine

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atacamadesert12 (talkcontribs) 17:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The file name implies it is "Be It Not For The Serpentine Rain Dodger" by The Takeovers. Booglamay (talk) - 19:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Do you maybe know where can I listen to the whole song? It's not on Youtube...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atacamadesert12 (talkcontribs) 19:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply] 

When will Pineapple Express be released on DVD? --Endlessdan and his problem 20:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the exact date is apparently TBA. But VideoETA.com estimates it to be sometime in January 2009. Cliff smith talk 22:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. --Endlessdan and his problem 13:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Black outline pics

What's the name of those black outline/border pictures with funny captions that you see on the internet, and where do I find a lot of them? 80.123.210.172 (talk) 22:36, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Motivational posters? Corvus cornixtalk 22:48, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, thanks. 80.123.210.172 (talk) 22:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The funny ones are often referred to as demotivational posters. -- kainaw 02:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And many can be found at despair.com Dismas|(talk) 10:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

battlestar gallactica

when are new episodes going to be coming back on again? its been forever, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haptic (talkcontribs) 23:40, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Frak, yeah. This says January. Arrrr! Clarityfiend (talk) 00:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Man, that's forever away still :-( --Haptic (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 02:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]


September 20

Cartoon movie with a snake and his adventures through the world...

Last night I was at the First Avenue in Minneapolis (Ratatat concert) and before each concert they play random movies on the screens as people wait. There was this movie that seemed oddly familiar... this green snake eats some apples and offers this forbidden fruit to adam and eve and eventually he's watching a bunch of TVs and they offer him sex and drugs and whatever and he gets all dizzy and overwhelmed... it was quite trippy. Dunno where I've seen it either. Also completely unrelated, what's that album where the cover art is a black & white photo taken underwater of a girl in a dress who is mostly submerged except for her face? Thanks a lot, media wizards! NIRVANA2764 (talk) 19:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns about Loony Tunes cartoons as food?

Did anyone, at the time they were made, find it a little gross that characters like Bugs Bunny could be chased down to become food on occasion, while exhibiting human characteristics of talking, walking, etc.? I'll admit, maybe it's me, but I always found it rather grotesque to have Bugs in a pot cracking jokes with Wile E. Coyote ("I'd stay for lunch, but I'm kind of tied up right now.") I mean, he's still...hmmm, anthropomorphic I guess. I know I wouldn't dream of cooking and eating something that was talking to me! (And it never seems to bother people trying to get Daffy Duck.) Or, didn't anyone ever have probmes with the concept? Maybe most people who are neurotypical can see the cartoons and never bat an eye; I guess it's the talking and walking like people aspect that makes me turn away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.187.155 (talk) 23:40, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure numerous people had or have a problem with it -- you can pick just about anything and be fairly certain that someone is going to have a problem with it -- but beyond that, I doubt you're going to get meaningful answers to a question like this. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 23:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, there were people who found the concept of Pokemon evolution grossly offensive at the time. Go figure... --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Um...it was a cartoon with comical situations. None of the characters actually get eaten. --mboverload@ 00:05, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CarnivoreConfusion Avnas Ishtaroth drop me a line 05:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A particularly odd bit is in Paying the Piper (1949): the Pied Piper (Porky Pig) is taunted by a cat with "Your sister smokes corn silks!" to which he replies, "No, she works in a butcher shop and smokes hams." She's presumably a pig .... —Tamfang (talk) 07:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 21

Whats this song?

I heard this song on the radio today and one of the lyrics I remember was something like "can we be crazy for a few more years". It was a male voice and didn't sound like an old song. What is it? --124.254.77.148 (talk) 05:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A Google search for that exact phrase suggests it was Thank You (For Loving Me at My Worst), by The Whitlams. Zagalejo^^^ 07:53, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yup thats it. Thanks. I dunno why google was failing me before. --124.254.77.148 (talk) 08:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 22

"Rooks" by Shearwater

Anyone understands what the song is about? I don't get it... --Dr Dima (talk) 03:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BTW I found a couple of versions of the song on YouTube, here. Thanks in advance. --Dr Dima (talk) 07:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By 'rook' they're talking about the bird, not the chess piece. I didn't work to untangle every metaphor, but it pretty much seems like it's about how mankind is encroaching on the birds, and this is probably a synecdoche meant to extend to all of nature. The birds (nature) are waiting for mankind to fall (become extinct or at least much less of a burden) so that things can be back to how they used to be in the good ol' days before they got killed by flying into our laundry or buildings or just because we want to eat them. - Lambajan 21:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your interpretation makes sense. Thanks! Now that I have read your reply, I see that there is actually a really nice conflation or double allusion in the song: "the falconer awakes to the sound of the bells. Overhead and southbound they are leaving his life" - southbound as migration and southbound as death (see Guardian of the South). Very nice. Thanks again! --Dr Dima (talk) 06:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Playing PS1/PS2 games on PS3

I am considering getting a PS3 soon. But when I read the PS3 article, it says here that the newer models in production can only play old games with emulation software. What does that mean? Do I have to use a boot disc? Does it come with this software? Also, are the older out-of-production systems that play PS1/PS2 games without the required emulation software rare? As in, can I find them used easily from places like Game Stop or EBay without having to pay a premium? --Endlessdan and his problem 13:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone will certainly clarify for you but the emulation software should be available through Sony's online interface (Sony Home?). There won't be a boot-disc, it'll be entirely hard-drive based emulation with your PS1/PS2 game in the disc-drive. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 13:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just so I'm straight, with the newer model PS3s, I just put in the PS1/PS2 game and the appropriate emulator will be downloaded? --Endlessdan and his problem 14:15, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The emulator is in the PS3 when you purchase it. You just put in your old game and hope that the programmers didn't do anything outside of Sony's rules of proper programming. If they did, the game may not work properly. Of course, everyone will blame Sony for the game's failure, not the programmers who failed to write their program correctly. A problem you may have is that the PS3 does not have any of those memory card ports. If you want to load saved games off your PS2 memory cards, you have to buy a USB adapter for them. -- kainaw 12:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have one of the PS3's with software emulation. You just pop in the disk and it goes. The only game I own that doesn't work with it is "Gitaroo Man".
Be sure to check the Ps3#Retail_configurations chart before you buy. Some PS3s don't have any backwards computability at all.
(As an aside, most add-on hardware like the PS2 Guitar Hero controller will not work with the PS3.) APL (talk) 13:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't there a Spanish language version of Achy Breaky Heart? Ericthebrainiac (talk) 14:09, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, by Caballo Dorado. An MP3 can be purchased from Amazon.com. Google would have given you an answer more quickly. --LarryMac | Talk 14:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't heard the version mentioned by LarryMac. I do have, however, a version by Coyote Dax, on disco Estrella vol. 4. It's listed as "No rompas mi corazon (dance remix)". The lyrics go "No rompas más mi pobre corazón. Estas pegando justo entiéndelo. Si quiebras poco más mi pobre corazón, me harás mil pedazos quiérelo." (Over and over again). After hearing it a zillion times a summer some years ago, I think I prefer this version by "Weird Al" Yankovic. --NorwegianBlue talk 21:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MINOR COUNTIES CRICKET CHAMPIONSHIP STATISTICS

Whowever writes about the Minor Counties of English Cricket for Wikipedia clearly has access to the final tables for each Minor Counties Championship season, 1895 onwards.

I have been trying to get hold of these for years. I have been told that the only way to find them is to go through every copy of Wisden from then till now, but I am overseas and therefore cannot visit a county club to do this.

Does anyone have these tables? If so can they make them available to me or the public?

Rumwold Leigh Tbilisi, Georgia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.232.49.207 (talk) 21:48, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CricketArchive has a record of all of them, I think. If you search (in your browser, hit ctrl + f or your equivalent) on this page for "Minor counties championship" (without the "s, obviously) it has the results of every single season (with gaps for the two world wars) back to 1895. Not all of them have points tables or statistics, but these pages are present from the 1910 season onwards, which I hope should be good enough. Hope this helps! :) Regards, AllynJ (talk | contribs) 22:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 23

Golf club rental in Bangkok

Hi. I'll be golfing around Bangkok for 4 days. Rather than hire a different set of clubs each day at a different course, I'd like to find one set that I can hire from a shop in Central Bkk, and play them all 4 days. I know there are many golf retail outlets in Thaniya Plaza, but haven't been able to find a website or shop name that indicates golf rentals. Can anyone guide me to some clubs? Thanks if you can help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.134.43 (talk) 10:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1980s water wave machines?

Does anyone remember those late 70s/early 80s wave machines? It was blue oil and clear water in a long (12"?) narrow (2"?) rectangular lucite box which sat on a slowly rocking mechanism. Some models had a light built-in. It simulated ocean waves -- like a different take on lava lamps. What were those called? Is there a Wiki entry on them? --70.167.58.6 (talk) 17:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to our article Lava lamp, they (at least the ones manufactured by the company that made Lava Lites) were sold as the Wave Machine—redlinked, so I assume we have no article on them. You can see a rather oddball fluorescent model in action here. Deor (talk) 18:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can still buy them. They aren't gone. Every time I go into a Spencer's Gifts in a mall, they have one. This is in the US, your milage may vary. Dismas|(talk) 21:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Album with b&w cover art of a girl in a white dress mostly submerged underwater

What's that album where the cover art is a black & white photo taken underwater of a girl in a white dress who is mostly submerged except for her face? I recall seeing it in a few "best cover art" lists and things. Can't recall what it is now. Thanks NIRVANA2764 (talk) 20:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possibly 'Where the Wild Roses Grow' By Nick Cave & Kylie Minogue: [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.202.144.223 (talk) 22:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is frustrating. I know a lot of famous album covers, but I don't recognise this one from the description. If it's taken underwater, and the girl's face is not submerged, then presumably that means her face is not shown? It doesn't sound like the Cave/Kylie, anyway. --Richardrj talk email 15:04, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right, her face is not being shown. All of her body except for her face is underwater, so you can't see her face in the pic. Just most of her body underwater. It's a pretty eerie image. Almost as eerie as the thought of Nick Cave collaborating With Kylie Minogue (which sadly is not the album I'm thinking of) NIRVANA2764 (talk) 16:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like you're referring to this image, which is used in at least two album covers.-Tomdobb (talk) 16:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NCAAF rule loophole

I vaguely remember watching a college football game last year that went to overtime (alternating possession). The offense threw an interception, and the defense (prior to INT) was running back the ball for a game-ending touchdown, but the player was brought down by his facemask. The referee threw the flag, but if I remember correctly, the penalty could not be assessed. All that happened was the drive was over and the (once) defense gained possession of the ball at the 25th yard line. Is this a rule loophole? I imagine it's not a big deal with the NCAA rules committee because it's such an uncommon circumstance, but is it true that after an INT in overtime, the (once) offense can commit any foul to bring down the player who made the INT without a penalty? Thanks!--El aprendelenguas (talk) 22:04, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to NCAA rules "Distance penalties against either team are declined by rule in extra periods (Exceptions: Penalties for flagrant personal fouls, dead-ball fouls and live-ball fouls treated as dead-ball fouls are enforced on the succeeding play)" (source, page 66). The question remains whether facemask penalties are live-ball fouls that are treated as dead-ball fouls. I cannot find a good source for that issue in that document but surely it is there. Assuming they aren't treated as dead-ball fouls then that is an interesting loophole.--droptone (talk) 11:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That was last year's Tennessee-Kentucky game, and as a UT fan, I was incensed -- and as somebody who gripes about bad rules anyway, only slightly less incensed. In this case it went above and beyond the rules loophole laid out above, though -- the foul occured at the end of the second possession of an OT period. Note that the rulebook fails to even address such a situation in their Examples, all of which are concerned with the first OT possession. Because the foul ended an entire overtime period, the whole thing was wiped. What really irks me is that the correct solution is arbitrarily closed by the very rule that ought to fix it (Rule 3, Section 2, Article 3 on p. 67): "A period shall be extended until a down (other than a try), free from live-ball fouls not penalized as dead-ball fouls, has been played." 3-2-3's normal provision is that the game can't end on a defensive penalty (as was the case here); rather, the offense is awarded an untimed down -- which, with the 15 yards from the penalty, would have put Tennessee in field goal range. However, the above rule notes that such a penalty is "declined" (rather than "not enforced") and 3-2-3 requires that the triggering penalty be "accepted" (rather than "called" or some other neutral language). The requirements between the two rules are written sufficiently that droptone's question of how live-ball fouls are treated is irrelevant: if treated live, they must be declined (and so do not trigger the provisions of 3-2-3) and if treated dead, they don't apply to 3-2-3 to begin with. — Lomn 13:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LF articles concerning Amphimbians in the artic circle

Do any amphimbians live in the artic circle? have not found any so far. Thank you for help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.188.121 (talk) 23:52, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might do better to ask this on the science desk, but (to my surprise) yes, “Wood frogs can freeze solid, and they’ve been seen as far north as the south slope of the Brooks Range,” according to this.--Shantavira|feed me 11:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 24

"It's alright"

Does anyone know the name of a song which has the hook "it's alright" ? The last syllable has an upward inflection . The singer sounds a bit like Bob Dylan , a quite rough voice . Cheers . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.198.130 (talk) 19:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Think Twice, It's All Right-Tomdobb (talk) 19:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also check out End of the Line by the The Traveling Wilburys...Bob Dylan was actually in the band and sang on that track. cheers, 10draftsdeep (talk) 19:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
oops, I guess according to our article he didn't actually sing on this one! cheers, 10draftsdeep (talk) 20:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

desprate houswives

so now I'm watchin despreate housewifes and the one who got cancer and wore a wig, she had 3 suns but now she only has 2, so I'm wondring what hapenned to the other one? Lilyfan87 (talk) 21:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]