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Please review the discussion at [[Talk:Lodge_Committee#Merge_proposal|here]] and [[Talk:United_States_Senate_Committee_on_the_Philippines#Merge_Lodge_Committee_into_this_article|here]]. I'm leaving Lodge Committee up for now instead of redirecting it, because there's a lot of good information there. However, it is currently a chronological transcript of the hearing and its witnesses, and the narrative is not up to Wikipedia's standards. I've condensed and rewritten several sections, and copied others as is. Please take a look at the new version at [[United States Senate Committee on the Philippines|Committee on the Philippines]] and make any edits you see fit.[[User:Dcmacnut|DCmacnut]][[User talk:Dcmacnut|<font color="blue">&lt;</font><font color="red">&gt;</font>]] 21:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Please review the discussion at [[Talk:Lodge_Committee#Merge_proposal|here]] and [[Talk:United_States_Senate_Committee_on_the_Philippines#Merge_Lodge_Committee_into_this_article|here]]. I'm leaving Lodge Committee up for now instead of redirecting it, because there's a lot of good information there. However, it is currently a chronological transcript of the hearing and its witnesses, and the narrative is not up to Wikipedia's standards. I've condensed and rewritten several sections, and copied others as is. Please take a look at the new version at [[United States Senate Committee on the Philippines|Committee on the Philippines]] and make any edits you see fit.[[User:Dcmacnut|DCmacnut]][[User talk:Dcmacnut|<font color="blue">&lt;</font><font color="red">&gt;</font>]] 21:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:cool, as you wish, thanks for consulting me. I trust my hours and hours of work is in good hands. God bless. [[User:Ikip|Ikip]] ([[User talk:Ikip|talk]]) 22:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:cool, as you wish, thanks for consulting me. I trust my hours and hours of work is in good hands. God bless. [[User:Ikip|Ikip]] ([[User talk:Ikip|talk]]) 22:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

==RFC for [[User:Collect]]==

Hello, see my response here: [[User_talk:Mattnad#RfC.3F]] [[User:Phoenix of9|Phoenix of9]] ([[User talk:Phoenix of9|talk]]) 02:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

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This user is on wikivacation for a bit, while he catches up on his real life, which he has been neglecting for wikipedia. You can email me if you like.


"Disagreeable and closed to new ideas - that's the picture that emerges of contributors to...Wikipedia from a survey of their psychological attributes." Aldhous, Peter (January 03, 2009). "Psychologist finds Wikipedians grumpy and closed-minded". NewScientist. Retrieved 2009-05-08. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help) Source: "Personality Characteristics of Wikipedia Members" CyberPsychology & Behavior (DOI: 10.1089/cpb.2007.0225)

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Why delete your userpage? What's up? From an email a friend sent me: "I am a Nobody. Nobody is Perfect. Therefore I am Perfect." Best, --A NobodyMy talk 18:54, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I hope this has nothing to do with the deletion of some of your pages. Please don't be discouraged by this; your work is still appreciated. :) —Anonymous DissidentTalk 14:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dude, we appreciate your work. Make sure the Wiki vay-cay isn't too long. SMSpivey (talk) 00:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thirded/fourthed. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And fifthed! :) Pastor Theo (talk) 03:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
sixtheded! --Buster7 (talk) 05:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

*blush* Thank you fellow editors for your warm and kind support. I would never had stayed on wikipedia as long as I have without so much wonderful support. The fierce oppostion and piety attacks would have chased me away, as they have chased away so many other fine editors who don't have the support network that I am now so blessed to have.

Adopt and mentor these new editors, e-mail them, step between them and the many bullies on wikipedia, counsel them on and off wikipedia.

I am around. Just not editing. I will be back in a few weeks to two months. Ikip (talk) 12:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:Pastor Theo, you don't have your e-mail activated. Ikip (talk) 12:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There is life outside of Wikipedia? Enjoy your break. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I still love your "If you spend to much time on wikipedia, you will go insane, like me." I should have the embroidered and mailed to you. Ikip (talk) 18:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for YouTube cat abuse incident

An editor has asked for a deletion review of YouTube cat abuse incident. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. AfD hero (talk) 04:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have email activated, I was hoping to e-mail you. You are an editor who deperatetly deserves a barnstar AfDhero for your hard work in saving articles. Ikip (talk) 13:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really think that would be appropriate. I don't try to "save" articles in the classic sense of improving them (unless it's trivial to find the sources or whatever). I used to do that, but then they would get deleted anyways, so whats the point.
With the new culture of admins being above concensus, I'm thinking about closing this account and just going back to anonymously improving mathematics and hard science articles like I've done since the beginning. Basically give up on the rest of wikipedia until the general beureacratic, deletion heavy mindset changes. These projects are one of the few areas that are effectively untouchable by bureaucrats and policywonks, and the culture of editors there is much nicer. AfD hero (talk) 01:15, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry to hear that, you are not the first editor to say that you are fed up with wikipedia and will probably leave. We need more editors like you. Ikip (talk) 01:17, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the invite to article rescue squadron.--Libertyguy (talk) 16:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

your welcome, thank you for contributing your time and talents to wikipedia. Wikipedia needs more editors like you. I hope you stay. :) Ikip (talk) 18:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm writing to let you know that I have modified this proposal in hopes of trying to build a consensus in favor of something relating to citing IMDb. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:26, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ARS invite

I've used your version and created Template:Article Rescue Squadron invite so we have an "official" template. If you want to include comments regarding inclusion and per someone's user page perhaps that could be bonus comments instead? -- Banjeboi 16:25, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nice job. I had myself booted voluntarily for two weeks, so I can't make any improvements. The inclusion idea in the template was a bad attempt at comprimise.
this is my latest version:
Hello, Article Rescue Squadron. You may be interested in participating in the Article Rescue Squadron. Rescue members are focused on rescuing articles in jeopardy of deletion. If this interests you, you may seek more information on the Project Page.
You can join >> here <<. ~~~~
This is yours (thanks for taking the initiative on creating this)
You have been invited to join the Article Rescue Squadron, a collaborative effort to rescue articles from deletion when they can be improved through regular editing. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join and help rescue articles tagged for deletion and rescue. ~~~~
Newer version:
Hello, {{SUBST:BASEPAGENAME}} you have been invited to join the Article Rescue Squadron, where members are focused on rescuing articles in jeopardy of deletion by improving the article. For more information, please visit the project page, where you can join >> here << and help rescue articles tagged for deletion and rescue. ~~~~
What do you think about the last one?
Ikip (talk) 19:09, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes to adding the name parameter, I wasn't able to get it to work. Yes to the >>join here<< function. I'd rather keep the rest very neutral as this project has a history of being accused of inclusionism which we should work to avoid. Part of that is all our project templates and content need to avoid emotional appeals and remain as neutral as possible. I'm using the new welcome template which I'll post below. Sorry I didn't see this discussion sooner. -- Banjeboi 17:25, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I got blocked voluntarily because so many editors were worried about me. So no problem about not seeing this earlier. Here is a newer version:
Hello, {{SUBST:BASEPAGENAME}} you have been invited to join the Article Rescue Squadron, where members rescue articles from deletion by improving the article. For more information, please visit the project page, where you can join >> here << and help rescue articles tagged for deletion and rescue. ~~~~
The sentence a collaborative effort to rescue articles from deletion when they can be improved through regular editing. needed a slight rewrite.
I want to use an approved template, so that accuations of canvassing by editors who delete are nulfied even further. Ikip (talk) 20:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not bothered by the allegation if the wording is still neutral. "rescue articles from deletion when they can be improved through regular editing" is the key phrase as it is AfD policy whereas "rescue articles from deletion by improving the article" implies that all tagged ones are rescuable and the only way we rescue is by improving them. Neither of those is true, often we rescue articles simply by pointing to notability and sourcing on the AfD. -- Banjeboi 21:43, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"rescue articles from deletion when they can be improved through regular editing" needs to be written clearer. I am not sure how at this point. Maybe:
"rescue articles from deletion if they could have been improved through regular editing"
Ikip (talk) 01:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The wording though conveys an "out" for all involved, we rescue articles when they can be improved through regular editing because we are referring to those articles in process not that someone should have improved them before AfD. -- Banjeboi 13:22, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted to GA

In case you were thinking of making that into a list, I just got Dragon kill points (A famously deleted article) up to GA after recreating it last month. Protonk (talk) 18:02, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

THAT is awesome! i will put you in the ars hall of fame when I get unblocked from my voluntary block. Congrats Protonk. I would mention it here too: Wikipedia_talk:Article_Rescue_Squadron#Fifth_formerly_deleted_article_recreated_and_advanced_to_GA-Class Ikip (talk) 21:59, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to ARS!

It's meant to cover a lot of ground for users who read nothing else. -- Banjeboi 20:04, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good points, I will make suggestions later. Thanks for visiting my page! Ikip (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Ikip, welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron!

We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to rescuing articles that have been tagged for deletion. Many articles are deleted which are notable subjects but are poorly written, which can be fixable and should not be deleted.

  • Many times we are asked to help rescue articles by people new to wikipedia. If the article is not fixable we can help explain why and offer alternatives. Encourage civility and maybe even {{welcome}} them if they have only been templated with deletion messages.

Template:ARS/Tagged

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again - Welcome! ~~~~

Need a new perspective

Please review actions of Admin User:Avi on Carlos Latuff, Talk:Carlos Latuff, antisemitism, and User_talk:65.246.126.130#March_2009 and render an opinion. -74.162.148.196 (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I had myself blocked, so I can't intercede. Ikip (talk) 20:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Email me the issues with your real account, keeping in mind that I have no idea what the issue is. It is hard for me to understand everything from what little you said. Ikip (talk) 22:55, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above is one of the IP socks of User:Mbhiii, who has been edit warring on various articles for a long time now. -- Avi (talk) 23:24, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the information Avraham. I wonder why he comes to me for help? Maybe he sees that I help new editors sometimes? He obviously is someone who is desperate, and who doesn't have many friends here. I would be willing to hear what is going on. Ikip (talk) 23:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps. On the other hand, the edits that get near universally reverted due to their obvious improper POV and deliberate ignoring of consensus, coupled with spamming various editors talk pages may have something to do with the dearth of people who are willing to help him. /sigh Wikipedia:The Truth is a many-splendored thing, and those in possession of it wish to spread it, but that is not the purpose of wikipedia; as unfortunate as that may be. -- Avi (talk) 23:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, thank you for taking the time to explain the situation. I am honored that you feel my opinion is important enough to explain everything. I will have to take your word for everything you say. The anon probably will not respond anyway, and I am really not interested in the subject of antisemitism. Best wishes and happy editing. Ikip (talk) 00:49, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merging Lodge Committee and U.S. Senate Committee on the Philippines

You appear to be a main editor at Lodge Committee, so I wanted to let you know I'm performing a merge of that article into United States Senate Committee on the Philippines. The Lodge Committee is how people referenced the Philippines Committee when Henry Cabot Lodge was chairman. I'm working on standardizing and cleaning up defunct committee articles. Since there was no separate committee overseeing the war crimes investigation, and all hearings were conducted by the Philippines committee, it's more appropriate to discuss the war crimes hearings in the main committee article.

Please review the discussion at here and here. I'm leaving Lodge Committee up for now instead of redirecting it, because there's a lot of good information there. However, it is currently a chronological transcript of the hearing and its witnesses, and the narrative is not up to Wikipedia's standards. I've condensed and rewritten several sections, and copied others as is. Please take a look at the new version at Committee on the Philippines and make any edits you see fit.DCmacnut<> 21:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

cool, as you wish, thanks for consulting me. I trust my hours and hours of work is in good hands. God bless. Ikip (talk) 22:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RFC for User:Collect

Hello, see my response here: User_talk:Mattnad#RfC.3F Phoenix of9 (talk) 02:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]