:Hi. Do you mean with respect to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Copyright Cleanup]]? Right now, the project's major goal is cleaning up the Mollusc articles. We're cooperating with [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Gastropods]] on that one, and it's being organized at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gastropods/Subpage for organizing CopyVio Cleanup]]. There are detailed instructions there for pitching in. If you don't have familiarity with Gastropods and don't want to work on that cleanup, there's bound to be something coming up soon. Meanwhile, if you're looking for something a little simpler, there's always [[:Category:Wikipedia files with unknown source]]. If you can find the sources for these, you might be able to figure out if they are free or blatant copyright violations. See [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Copyright_Cleanup#Category:Wikipedia_files_that_may_violate_copyright]]. And welcome. :) --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 19:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
:Hi. Do you mean with respect to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Copyright Cleanup]]? Right now, the project's major goal is cleaning up the Mollusc articles. We're cooperating with [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Gastropods]] on that one, and it's being organized at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gastropods/Subpage for organizing CopyVio Cleanup]]. There are detailed instructions there for pitching in. If you don't have familiarity with Gastropods and don't want to work on that cleanup, there's bound to be something coming up soon. Meanwhile, if you're looking for something a little simpler, there's always [[:Category:Wikipedia files with unknown source]]. If you can find the sources for these, you might be able to figure out if they are free or blatant copyright violations. See [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Copyright_Cleanup#Category:Wikipedia_files_that_may_violate_copyright]]. And welcome. :) --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 19:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
==GB==
Hello Moonriddengirl, I checked FishBase before I used it & it says "You are welcome to include text, numbers and maps from FishBase in your own web sites for non-commercial use, given that such inserts are clearly identified as coming from FishBase, with a backward link to the respective source page." It comes as a shock to me to find that this is not OK for Wikipedia. I apologise for all the trouble. I think the best thing is to block me permanently. [[User:GrahamBould|GrahamBould]] ([[User talk:GrahamBould|talk]]) 00:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
If you are here with questions about an article I have deleted or a copyright concern, please consider first reading my personal policies with regards to deletion and copyright, as these may provide your answer.
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I will not consider it wheel-warring if you reverse my admin actions as long as you leave me a civil note telling me what you've done and why and as long as you're open to discussion with me should I disagree.
There are a few articles that I know that needs tweaking? Do you know of any wiki writers that can write articles, that is compliant and article won't be deleted? If so, what will be the costs involved. Let me know and I can contact that person or if it is yourself.
I don't know any writers for hire on Wikipedia, I'm afraid. As far as I'm concerned, I'm already pretty fully committed to working on copyright concerns on the article; I'm afraid that doesn't always leave me much spare time. But there are a few potential sources of assistance for you. If you'd like to learn to work on these yourself with mentorship from an experienced Wikipedia, we have an "adoption" program at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User. There, you might find an editor who can work closely with you as you learn the ropes. Less formally, you might also look at Wikipedia:Editor assistance. There, you'll find editors who have expressed a willingness to help out. You do want to be careful, though, who you approach. :) Not every Wikipedian removes his or her name from that list when no longer available. In the "toolbox" on the side of every contributor's user page is a link called "user contributions." If you click on this, you can see when the contributor last edited and get an idea of how active an editor is. There is also a forum there where you can post specific requests: Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests. --Moonriddengirl(talk)17:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Newdesignnow - one possibility you may consider is either Wikipedia:Reward board, where you can offer other editors money to complete tasks, or Wikipedia:Bounty board, where you can offer Wikipedia donations as incentives to complete certain tasks. However, you should be warned that if consensus holds that your topic is not considered notable, even the best efforts of an editor can do nothing to prevent its deletion, and it would be unfair to not reward them for this work in this case. Dcoetzee21:44, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again! I rewrote the portions that were in concern. Would you please check it and let me know for the case I have overseen something. Thanks. CeeGee (talk) 16:41, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I will take a look; thank you. For some reason, I didn't get the "you have new messages" bar, so I was unaware there was anything waiting on my talk page until now. Sorry! (Now, like everyone else, I'm caught up in whatever bizarre bug has disabled editing Wikipedia. Recent changes looks very odd, with no new material added for nearly 15 minutes!) --Moonriddengirl(talk)20:40, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for your review and your detailed comments. As I can see the "point" is more complicated than I assumed some days age. Wow. OK. I will try to reword the paragraph in concern. However, I need a little more time to do it, and as I have only limited freetime during the weekdays, I would do it on the weekend. I hope this will be not too late to prevent the article being deleted totally. Besides, I appreciate your tutorship really much. :-) Cheers.CeeGee (talk) 19:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Thank you for your comments regarding the copyright problems. However, as I am the Curator/Administrator of Canada's Aviation Hall of Fame, I do hold the copyright for this material. How then do I grant permission for Wikipedia to allow the use of this information on the Hall of Fame's Wiki site? As for the book 'They Led the Way' by Mary Oswald, the Hall also holds the copyright of this material as well. How then do I need to prove this to Wikipedia?
You helped me out last week with a copyright problem; I was astonished, looking further, at how much you do on this front. For being so prompt, thorough, courteous, and awesome :) Gonzonoir (talk) 20:08, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! That's very kind. :) I was happy to lend a hand. As I said then, it's one of the advantages of a big Wiki, that you have people working in all kinds of areas. And I'm often asking for assistance from others. :D --Moonriddengirl(talk)21:49, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding your note, I tagged them as redundant, not identical. The three images are not in use (and have not been since upload in August), are not likely to be used, and are redundant of each other. Much like calling someone of one gender a girl, woman, or female, which are not identical, but we don't need to use all three, as that would be redundant. I take CSD #1 for files at its word, which is redundant. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry I mistakenly rolled back your edits on WP:AN, I THOUGHT I had click the link to the page itself, but when I looked up, I had clicked rollback by mistake. Either my browser, my mouse or my fingers aren't behaving this morning. Anyway, whoops and sorry!! Wildthing61476 (talk) 12:51, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for the quick response. I have looked through the Copyright Permission document on here and I am not sure that the Hall of Fame would be willing at this point to grant unrestricted copyright over to Wikipedia. Perhaps it is then best to remove the articles posted that you feel might be an infringement. I would appreciate knowing which ones before you proceed to remove them are.
Hi there. I noticed you are one of the most active admins at WP:CP. I for myself have little to no knowledge in that area and one user contacted me for a page where I used {{copyvio}} because I was not sure it was a G12 CSD. Could you maybe head to User talk:SoWhy#Samma Dynasty Copyvio Notices and offer your insight on how to handle that issue? Thanks in advance! Regards SoWhy17:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, FYI, the ContributionSurveyor report on GrahamBould is available. Per your request I excluded all articles listed in the Molluscs of New Zealand category hierarchy. Unfortunately it's looking like there are quite a few left over articles with substantial prose contribution from him. :-/ See what you think. Dcoetzee09:56, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Discouraging! I'll make a note at the project page. They seem to be fairly pessimistic about the whole process over there. The contributor who first disclosed the problem seems to think it might take a year or more to clean these up. --Moonriddengirl(talk)02:29, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much Moonriddengirl for helping us along with this so much. I guess we already have one convenient list by using the subcategories of Category:Molluscs of New Zealand. I thought as a start we could commence with the subcategory gastropods, and simply assign an alphabetical section to each of the taskforce members. This would be an experiment to see how well it goes (or not). Then if it is not really very workable or ceases to be workable after a month or two then we could go with the bot idea.
Yesterday evening I went through nearly a quarter of the list that Dcoetzee created (very useful). it made me realize that the whole Category:Molluscs of Australia also is almost certainly just as much of a CopyVio problem with about 400 more articles. I am also thinking that many other of GB's articles may be problematic too, but I don't have the time to check any on other subjects.
I was wondering if we could put cleaned-up articles into a new (temporary) invented category such as maybe: "Category:Gastropods of NZ" so that all of us could find them all in one place? What do you think of that idea?
I'm happy to help as much as I can, although this is out of my field. :) The temporary category may be a good idea, although there's always a chance somebody will object and nominate the category for deletion. At that point, a list might serve just as well. I would explain the purpose of the category, and that it is intended to be temporary, at the category page itself. --Moonriddengirl(talk)14:26, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Hawaii concerns
Hi. I've been closely following the discussion on AN/I about "A very large and widespread CopyVio problem", and for some time now, I have been concerned with the majority of articles and subcats containing articles in Category:Royal Family of Hawaii. I'm not here to point fingers at the particular user, but they have been warned several times and they understand the problem. Obviously, you will discover who they are if you investigate the issue, but I would like to know how to proceed. Whenever you have time, please contact me, or if you feel the need to ask someone else to look at this, that's perfectly fine, I just want to get it resolved. Some of the sources the particular editor has used may or may not be in the public domain, but I haven't investigated that angle and it may be doubtful as most of these books are still in print. But if they are, would this be a plagiarism issue rather than a copyvio? I'm not entirely sure what to do, so I look forward to hearing from you-or someone! :) Viriditas (talk) 10:30, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can you supply me, please, a couple of examples of articles that are a concern? It would make it much easier for me to investigate. I've popped in on a few articles at random, but I haven't been able to identify specifically a problem. --Moonriddengirl(talk)02:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. I should have provided them in the first place. And your response time is very quick! I'll get back to you later tonight. Viriditas (talk) 02:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ack, I'm nowhere ready to address this as I'm working on a GAC, and you've got your hands full anyway. Hopefully, I can return to this soon. Thanks for putting up with me. :) Viriditas (talk) 10:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! You're welcome. I noticed your article on the DYK yesterday and wanted to fix some Turkish spellings. It is nice to have a Turkey-related article in Wikipedia written by a non-Turkish person. Thanks so much for your work. Now, I've got to maintain my home work on Raymond Charles Père as promised. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 14:09, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Problem with blocked user?
Hi there. It appears that after OSUHEY stopped editing, RollingRock2009 has started with a similar behavior. All of the articles they've created are copyvios of the links they use as references. I was wondering if the user should be blocked due to the amount of violations they've uploaded and if you would delete them. Or would it be best if I brought this to AN and tagged each article by hand? Thanks, §hepTalk21:09, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like I'm late to this party. Seems like you've already tagged them all, and they've all already been deleted, and somebody else has already launched a sockcheck (as I discovered after I labeled him). I'm watchlisting his talk page and will try to help out if he persists. :/ --Moonriddengirl(talk)22:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have found the diff. As near as I can tell, I have quoted you and attributed you correctly. I'm not sure why my quoting your statement is a problem, but I am willing to consider striking it through if it is for some reason offensive. --Moonriddengirl(talk)02:24, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why is it necessary to give attribution, to draw attention to and link my user name, to point out who said it rather than what was said? Are you unfamiliar with "discuss the edit, not the editor"? cygnis insignis02:33, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I always give attribution; it's precise, and it's good scholarship. I'm sorry if you feel my quoting your question is in some way uncivil. Since you originally asked the question, I had no reason to imagine you would not wish to take credit for it. I'm still unsure why this should represent a problem, given that the question was asked publicly on Wikipedia and remains a part of the "public record" as it were. I'm afraid I can't see anything horrible about either the question or the response. Meanwhile, please remember not to alter talk pages except in accord with WP:TALK. --Moonriddengirl(talk)02:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have not, nor could I, object to you quoting me. I am here to make improvements, not draw attention to myself. Please answer the questions above. cygnis insignis02:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I did answer your question, but I'll repeat it: "I always give attribution; it's precise, and it's good scholarship." (Unless you mean your second question, in which case, "No, hence the link to the policy from which its drawn." But quoting somebody is not discussing them.) --Moonriddengirl(talk)02:58, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My version was less distracting, it focuses on the content. I'll repeat that the quote itself was not the problem, it is misleading to keep suggesting that it was. Please take some time to consider how unnecessarily naming editors may be counterproductive. cygnis insignis 03:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC) P.S. You might also consider this recent example of naming names when serious accusations are being made. That is l[a]ying on the "public record", as you have it. cygnis insignis03:55, 15 March 2009 (UTC) [typo or not][reply]
Cygnis, no offense, but it seems like you are being oversensitive here. I looked at the diffs and I don't see anything wrong with how Moonriddengirl quoted you. Attribution is best practice. However, I do understand your position; Recently, another editor referred to me in a talk page section where there was only supposed to be a discussion of the topic in a neutral manner and turned it into a discussion of editors instead. But seriously, if she had not named you, I wouldn't have known who to thank for asking such a great question! Viriditas (talk) 09:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I must admit I remain completely confused about the core issue here. I didn't accuse you of anything; I answered your question in what I hoped would be a friendly and useful fashion; you several times requested an answer at ANI, and I attempted to give you one. Naming you was not unnecessary. I quoted you. Attribution is required under GFDL. I don't quote anyone on Wikipedia without naming them and/or providing a direct diff. If you simply feel that my talk page comment lacked focus, then I'm sorry, but while improving articles is encouraged, altering others' talk page comments is not. The comment that I wrote, though typically wordy, is also public record, even if you could have said it better. Nevertheless, for whatever reason my linking your name with your words may concern you, I have already withdrawn it on your request in the manner recommended by WP:TALK.
That said, please be careful about accusations against others. You accuse Celestra of "lying" in this edit, but offer no details to substantiate this accusation. Celestra expressed an opinion (preceded with the words "I think") that your handling of a situation constituted a continued copyright problem. Whether Celestra was right or wrong in that opinion, I don't see how that can constitute a "lie", unless you can s/how that s/he falsified information. An error in opinion, if s/he made one, is not a lie.
Firstly: I made a correction to my previous post. And what s/he insinuated on ANI was that I did something worse than copyvio, that is an unsubstantiated accusation that has not been refactored. Secondly:You have put forward further misinterpretations of my statements, I did not say your post was unfocused - I replaced my name with three words. The idea behind my statement is not mine, a concept that seems alien to you, but a diff would have sufficed if you insist on closely adhering to something that is largely ignored. And lastly: This 'case' and 'determination', has already produced drastic consequences in our community. I have seen newer good faith contributors scurrying off to fix things that are very probably unproblematic and certainly not copyvio. I wont be supplying the diffs, lest some thug or juvenile decide to make an example of them in that quasilegal arena AN/I, then see them crucified on scant or non-existent evidence at a TOL wikiproject. I have had little success in communicating with the legally-minded editors, and suppose I will just have to grit my teeth until this storm blows over. And wait for some mindless zealot to show up and suggest that 10 words in one of my stubs constitute a copyvio of three sources, or worse, 'concealing' that by 'rephrasing'. You may gain something by rereading my posts, and assume they are the product of good faith and much thought; I've done my best to explain them and understand your views. Regards, cygnis insignis16:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If I have misinterpreted your statement that "My version was less distracting, it focuses on the content" as indicating that my version was more distracting and did not focus on content, then I apologize. I'm not sure how else to interpret it, but evidently I am missing some nuance. I do adhere to GFDL and plan to continue at least until and unless Wikipedia follows through with its conversion to CC-By-SA this summer, at which point I'll adhere to it. It's possible that you might gain something by doing similarly (that is, in rereading with a similar assumption). --Moonriddengirl(talk)16:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to bother
I think we have another Surabayan copyright issue (sigh, etc etc) - if you could please see if I have been unfair on the IP number that ignored my warnings at Institut Teknologi Sepuluh Nopember please feel free to rap my knuckles if I have been unduely whatever - but this one was intransigent - unless IP's cannot see warnings maybe? SatuSuro12:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is very embarrassing but it looks like some appropriating from the website has been done by changing text slightly - to catch out those like me who look for straight copies :( - what bothered me was when i was adding comments to the 222 ip talk page was the even more flagrant WP:NOT items were being added SatuSuro13:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's often the way it goes; sometimes people don't understand how much they have to change, and other times they don't want to be bothered. :/ (The WP:NOT items, of course, have to be handled separately. With those, I'd recommend neutrally requesting feedback possibly at a Project page to see what others think should go into the article. In that case, I would explain what I object to and why on the article's talk page so consensus can be built there.) I'm looking at the material, and there's certainly a huge chunk of it. I have not yet been able to determine how much of a copyright issue the current text represents. I see some duplication under the "vision" section that will need to be removed. (Once I figure out if other material is a problem, I'll take care of that.) The list of prize winners is not copyrightable as long as there's only names and what they won for, so from a copyright standpoint that's okay. I have not yet located a source for the "Academic Facilities", which is the main section of concern. Can you by any chance identify where that was drawn from so that I can compare? --Moonriddengirl(talk)13:08, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My big problem is that I consider sections 10 and 11 not really valid text - not on copyright but on my reading of WP NOT - but will try for a bit to see if I can ascertain what is going on with the Academic Facilities - it doesnt seem to fit - so in the end maybe its less of a copyright issue than I thought and my tags that I placed are in the end the issues - insufficient citing - so maybe its a deadend issue as far as copyright after all - (it maybe that the 222 person is in fact a native english speaker with the capacity to precis the web material to get around things) :( - even more embarassing SatuSuro13:15, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
They may not be appropriate for the article, but they just have to be addressed separately. :) WP:C is a foundation policy, and I try to keep it very distinct from anything else I do. There are issues with the "vision" section, though. I'll address that. If you find a source for the facilities to which we can compare, please let me know. My search of the website didn't show up anything, but it's possible that I missed it. --Moonriddengirl(talk)13:17, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Big problem is the editor has created the 'ethics' thing - it comes from neither the English or Indonesian section - and being uncited and no sign of it on the website - maybe it is an WP:OR issue? A problem is assuming the individual might be writing from a written source and not from something on the web, :( SatuSuro13:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's possible. In your position, I would explain my problems at the article's talk page and then ask for feedback (you should make your question neutral) at Wikipedia:WikiProject Indonesia--just say, "There is a question about the development of this article; feedback at the talk page would be appropriate." Then I'd leave a note for the IP editor pointing out the section on the talk page and asking him to participate. That way, you can develop consensus as to whether or not that material belongs. Alternatively, you can request a reliable source, and if none is provided within a few days, restore to verifiable text. If it is a legal matter--if somebody is saying something bad about a living person, for example--unverified text must be removed immediately. If it is not, we can sometimes allow time for verification to be provided. --Moonriddengirl(talk)13:24, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - thats a good start - the land of Cygnis,the late Moondyne no Djanga, Gnangarra, Hesperian, SatuSuro, et al is truly in the land of nod time - thank you for your patience with me and the damned Indonesian project (dont let me start) - appreciate your hearing it out - I will return at some point - and see what the tags get (the indonesian project has many tags from me - the articles stay the same for years after the tags :) - cheers and thanks SatuSuro13:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hope you have a good night. :) It's my pleasure to help in any way I can. And, believe me, I know your frustration. I, too, have asked for feedback and waited to no avail. :/ --Moonriddengirl(talk)13:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that - on the Tasmanian project I once waited 2 years for a response on one article - but hey There are no deadlines - my user page has very few userboxes - but it has I like the sound of deadlines rushing pastSatuSuro13:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Should have got off by now - I waited for 3 years to get permission to research in Java in the 90's - etc etc - sabar is what my javanese friends offered as advice, and some editors on this place are gila(crazy) - so maybe instead of almost changing my user name to sttrider or striderr (user change name - I reverted my request this PM minutes after putting up strrider ) I should change from 'new years day' (satusuro) to Sabardangila - (hey that sounds good... hmmm..) Patient and crazy - im off before I rant further - cheers SatuSuro13:55, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Or simply "crazy patient." :) My patience tends to wear thin after a week or so. I have no real idea how either your current username or your potential one are pronounced, but I've always thought that SatuSuro must be very pretty in sound, if it is spelled at all phonetically. I like either that or Sabardangila better than the sttrider variants. :) They're striking, at least to me. --Moonriddengirl(talk)14:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I used my rollback - the material is straight from the web page - clearly thinks no one to answer to - boring - probably never get a word out of them - SatuSuro14:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As I am getting to or at WP3RR even if he she or it (it is a surabaya IP) is the issue - I am off to find a nice drink and book - I am out - cheers SatuSuro14:08, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck to you - with a talk page section like this i think i should find my copy of raymond chandlers the long goodbye - thanks for your patience with all this SatuSuro14:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, now I start to understand the "herding cats" analogy. It would be nice to have the luxury of waiting until everyone is in agreement as to how to go about fixing this, but that could take months, (or forever) and in the meantime nothing would actually have been done. I feel I am right to urge people to start on a simple system right away? I feel that time is of the essence here. Whatever system we use, I figure it can perhaps become more sophisticated as we go along if necessary.
Personally I like your suggestions and I very much respect your experience in this field. If you have any suggestions as to how I might handle the getting people to work together on this better I would be glad to hear them.
And to you. :) I have just addressed a personal note to User:KP Botany, as I hate to see anyone frustrated with the direction this is taking. Like you, I think that something needs to be done swiftly. I'll note that it is just as workable to me to completely replace these articles with stubs, if your project would prefer. We don't have to keep older versions in history, as long as they have completely new language. --Moonriddengirl(talk)17:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Erroneously accused of edit warring
On Ultraviolet Sound, User:Roux has accused me of edit warring, however, I wasn't. I was attempting to get my point across that I was not edit warring. So Roux decided to be closed-minded and revert my edits as vandalism. I posted a question about it at User talk:J.delanoy, however, I stopped receiving replies, and decided to go to another talkpage (here) where I am more likely to get a reply. If you believe that I was edit warring, then please tell me what edit I made that constituted edit warring. In addition, as you can see from Roux's block log, that he or she has been blocked in the past for exactly what he/she accused me of doing, but if you look at my block log, you will notice that it is empty. If I was actually edit warring, then my block log would not be empty. Because Roux's block log is not empty, I would not doubt that he or she made a bad faith edit. -- IRP☎22:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I'm actually cooking supper at the moment, but I wanted to let you know that I should be available to try to help you make sense of this within a few hours. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk)22:10, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for cleaning up my edit notice. :) I didn't even know that was possible!
First, let me point that edit warring can happen to anybody at any time, really. Even after I became an admin, I was cautioned once about edit warring by another admin when I believed I was removing a clear-cut BLP violation. He did not agree that it was a BLP issue. I bit my tongue, and after things settled realized that he was probably right. I say that before even looking at the issue, so I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm just saying that a clean record doesn't mean it can't happen. :)
Okay. Now I'm looking at what actually happened. And detailing what happened. User:Roux nominated the article for speedy deletion under WP:CSD#G4. You challenged the speedy. Then you nominated it for AfD. Both well within process. Roux reverted you. You did not revert him, but re-added the AfD tag, which he removed out of process. Looking flatly at the face of the article, I don't see any edit warring there. When an AfD is open, the article should be tagged. That was entirely appropriate.
The question, really, is what you want to do about it. I understand that it is offensive to you, but I'm not sure what remedies are available, short of seeking mediation at WP:WQA. Do you have any reason to believe that he would be open to approach from a neutral mediator from that forum? --Moonriddengirl(talk)22:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help, at least that should allow others to know that I was not edit warring. The final thing that I would like to address is that when I tried to remove the post from Roux's talk page that made it look like I was edit warring, the user then decided to revert me like a vandal. I am requesting that the post be removed by someone else or at least, please post a comment at that talk page to make it clear that I was not edit warring (since the user seemingly personally dislikes me and does not want me to edit his/her talk page. The user doesn't even bother to read my comments. The user just sees I edited the page and reverts it). As a last resort, I will post a notice at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts. -- IRP☎23:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I fear unless something is "resolved" in this discussion by an admin the some editors, specificly the ones that advocated and nominated AfD's on this subject will continue to harass the other editors attempting to add value to the articles. Is there going to come something out of it, or what was the point of the discussion? — raeky(talk | edits)23:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the point of all discussion is to find consensus. :) If consensus finds that the names belong, then the names stay. If consensus finds that they don't, they leave. I don't believe that it's really my place to judge consensus in the discussion, since I closed the matter at ANI. ANI was an inappropriate forum for it. Since it was not a BLP emergency, it was not an admin matter. BLPN is the place where such things should be decided, since not only admins have a role in determining how that policy applies. --Moonriddengirl(talk)23:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(That said, I think you should be careful about accusing people of "harassment". Please remember to WP:AGF and trust that others are as interested in adding value to the encyclopedia as you are. --Moonriddengirl(talk)23:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC))[reply]
Personally I'd prefer the background color a light blue, I had it that way, you can see it here, but it seems every barnstar template has the beige background, so I stuck with that. Feel free to change it if you want yours to be more original! And, if you don't like this, tell me, let me know what you were thinking of and I can re-do it. ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold17:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It has come to my attention that you have been policing the Wikipedia articles of the Members of the Ohio Senate, including Joe Schiavoni. I work for the Ohio Senate and request that you do not delete any information or photos that are added to his page. If you come across any other information from outside sources, the majority of it has been sourced from us.
I thank you for your efforts to protect us from plagiarism but ensure that any information that is added by this user is indeed valid information that should not be tampered with. Our main focus is to use Wikipedia in an effort to better educate the citizens of Ohio on their elected officials, and any information that we add is indeed doing this.
I'm giving you permission. This is copyrighted material written by Josephy Schiavoni. How else can I go about ensuring that this does not come up as plagiarism? This is uneccessary and should not be a problem, but please let me know what needs to be done. For my information, what is you actual title and your relationship with Wikipedia?
Hello Moonriddengirl, I checked FishBase before I used it & it says "You are welcome to include text, numbers and maps from FishBase in your own web sites for non-commercial use, given that such inserts are clearly identified as coming from FishBase, with a backward link to the respective source page." It comes as a shock to me to find that this is not OK for Wikipedia. I apologise for all the trouble. I think the best thing is to block me permanently. GrahamBould (talk) 00:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
