User talk:Serouj

To Add

• Coordinates of (active) Armenian Monastery in Bikfaya, Lebanon: 33°54′58.57″N 35°39′46.42″E
• Coordinates of Armenian Genocide Memorial in Bikfaya, Lebanon: 33°54′56.76″N 35°39′46.36″E

Media of the Armenian Diaspora

Newspapers

• The Armenian Weekly, Boston, MA (1899).
• Horizon Weekly, Montreal, Canada (1979).
• Aztag, Beirut, Lebanon.
• Alik, Tehran, Iran.
• Asbarez, Los Angeles, CA.
• Agos, Istanbul, Turkey.

Radio

• Voice of Van, Beirut, Lebanon.

Television

• Horizon Television, Glendale, CA.

Picture upload request

Hi there. I found this picture, Image:Bourj Hammoud01.jpg, and I learnt that you posted it for Wikipedia. I am yet to create Arabic and Simple English articles for Bourj Hammoud, so I wish to urgently ask if you could make the picture "common" - or available at all time. You can do that by uploading it to this website:

• http://commons.wikimedia.org

But, of course, you'd need to obtain a Wikimedia.org account. Thanks a lot. - Omar 180 12:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

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CfD nomination of Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes

I have nominated Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. mitrebox (talk) 06:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Good to see you've survived the mess in Yerevan.

When you get the chance, could you check out Sargis Baghdasaryan, and ensure that I didn't make any mistakes or omit anything important? Thanks. DS (talk) 03:08, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Translation

Hi, this is not for any purpose but my own, could I ask you to tell me what this means?

Քո Մայր Լեզուն Չմոռանաս

Thanks. ALTON .ıl 08:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Awesome. It was in a newspaper I picked up. ALTON .ıl 06:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Zvartnots Cathedral

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Yerevan article

Dear Serouj

Skzbiz petqe asel vor shat Uraxanali e tenal dzer nman Hayer Wikipediyayum... Dzer Yerevan_in_mid-May.jpg nkar@ shat hin nkare u vat tpavorutyune toxum mer gexeziq mayreniqi masin. Inch verabervume Yerevan-night22.jpg nkarin ays nkar@ chuni vochmi licansayin problemayin drutyun u mot 1 tariye ays nkarner arachutyun haytnum Yerevan teamayum.

Dzezaniz shat nerexutyun haytnelov noriz poxoadrutyunem anum Yerevan_in_mid-May.jpg nkar@ AOnline (talk) 09:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes for sure we have got a difference opinions about Yerevan Article. I think you didin't check carefully other articles. Republic Squre is symbol of Yerevan so there is no problem for put Squre picture to Settlement Infobox. And also your skyline picture is very old. ArmeniaOnline (talk) 08:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Բարեւ

Check your email (the one given on Նայիրի). Hakob (talk) 02:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion discussion

A category that you created (Armenian political prisoners) was suggested to be deleted (please see end of this discussion).Biophys (talk) 22:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes

You had participated back in February in this CfD regarding the Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes, which ended in no consensus. A new proposal has been made to eliminate this category and merge its contents to Category:War documentaries which is now going on at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 September 24#Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes. You are encouraged to reconsider the original CfD, revisit your opinion in that discussion and participate again in this latest CfD. Alansohn (talk) 20:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Your last edit in Serzh Sargsyan article

Hi Serouj,

Could you explain your last edit in Serzh Sargsyan article?

Talk:Serzh_Sargsyan

-Սահակ/Sahak (talk) 12:31, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

RE: Energy in Armenia

Բարեւ Serouj, thanks for the links. It's a great model for Armenia to follow so long as we learn from their problems.

Too bad the Renewable Energy in Armenia site is down, would've been very useful and interesting to see what other steps Armenia is taking to become less dependent on outdated energy sources like gas and oil. I hope the Danes will release the information soon. In the meantime, I found this. I was actually pleasantly surprised myself to see that Armenia's got a wind farm, albeit a small one... the one which you snapped a picture of. And the geothermal plant is just great news as well. Hopefully, the sources are accurate. - Fedayee (talk) 18:55, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Social issues in Armenia

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removed references

Serouj,

The references that I removed were either not relevant or very remotely relevant to the sentence that they were referencing, and were placed there primarily for promotional reasons. In each case I provided a more relevant link. -Սահակ/Sahak (talk) 14:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

You are doing a "Sneaky vandalism"

Modification of the original source based on what you think is injection of POV. We go with what the source says. Removing the Kurdish Genocide, though listed in the original source, is a "Sneaky vandalism." --Ahmetsaatalti (talk) 01:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

What "original source" are you talking about with your proposed "Kurdish Genocide" that you claim occurred contemporaneously with the Armenian Genocide? I have yet to come across a reputable academic source which claims a Kurdish Genocide at the same time of the Armenian, Pontic Greek, and Assyrian genocides. If anything, there is evidence of Kurdish involvement in the massacres of the above peoples during the genocide. Your intra-wiki link to Kurdish Genocide on the Armenian Genocide page will be removed. Thanks. Serouj (talk) 03:00, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

The last sentence of the first paragraph cites the article: Schaller, Dominik J. and Zimmerer, Jürgen (2008) 'Late Ottoman genocides: the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire and Young Turkish population and extermination policies – introduction', Journal of Genocide Research, 10:1, 7–14. This article references the first three genocides that is stated in the article which I guess you have not problem with. But the original text do not stop with the first three and continues with the one you reject. You are selecting what to include and what to reject from the article. This is "Sneaky vandalism." The evidence you are asking is in the article. --Ahmetsaatalti (talk) 03:08, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (File:The Armenian Genocide (2006 film poster).jpg)

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CfD nomination of Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes

I have nominated Category:Documentaries alleging war crimes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:Documentary films about alleged war crimes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:07, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Please consider joining the CFD, as the possible deletion of this category is also under discussion. Cgingold (talk) 15:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Arshile Gorky

It is my understanding that the photo was taken in Van. What source do you have that says it was taken in Yerevan? Meowy 17:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Kurdish genocide (WWI)

An Article for Deletion request has been created for this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kurdish_genocide_(WWI) Meowy 17:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

RE: Mil Inst

Բարեւ Սէրուժ, ինչպե՞ս ես։ Դրի վայրը նկարին։ Այս վէրջինը իմ քոյրս նկարած է անցեալ ամառ երբ Հայաստան այցելեց, առիթը ունեցաւ այս ռազմական դպրոցը երդալ եւ ուրիշ շատ հետաքրքրական տեղեր։ Յուսամ օգտակար եղայ, նորեն կը խօսինք։ - Fedayee (talk) 22:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

պ, տ, կ in Armenian

Hi. I noticed you changed the pronunciation of these consonants in Eastern Armenian to ejectives. However, those are not ejectives but plain voiceless consonants, like Russian п, т, к. Hear this ejective here. I'm sure you've never heard an Armenian making that sound. At least not the ones speaking literary Eastern Armenian or Ararat valley dialect. Anyway, I'm going to change the pronunciations in Eastern Armenian and Armenian alphabet when I have time, just wanted to let you know. --Vahagn Petrosyan (talk) 20:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation of ռ in Western Armenian

Hey, another question. How do you pronounce ռ in Western Armenian? Is it really an alveolar tap? Then don't you distinguish between ր and ռ? Because in Eastern Armenian ր is an alveolar tap and ռ is an alveolar trill. --Vahagn Petrosyan (talk) 22:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Bana Cathedral

Hi Serouj! That's an interesting subject. I think I will create it soon on wk:fr. Moreover, I will use Donabédian, who commented on the building. Sardur (talk) 23:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Donabédian has Banak has well. Sardur (talk) 07:06, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello Serouj. I noticed your clash with an ip over the Bana cathedral article. While the anon was incorrect when eliminating the Armenian origin of the church, Bana’s Georgian renovators should also be mentioned. I don’t know whether your sources speak of its Georgian connections, but I can provide you with the sources, including those by Armenian authors, about how Bana was restored by the Georgian Bagratids from Arab devastation in the 9th century and then was a venue for coronation of a couple of Georgian monarchs. I think we can cooperate and improve the article. I’m also suggesting renaming the article back to Bana, for its being the most frequently used name in both Armenian and Georgian sources. Best, Kober^Talk 18:53, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Serouj! Actually, Donabédian, while recognising the Armenian type of the cathedral, disagrees on its dating:

"Rangée par quelques auteurs parmi les constructions du VIIe siècle, elle est en réalité précisément datée par un témoignage historique (chronique géorgienne du XIe siècle) du règne du prince Adrnérsé II (881-923) et rien n'autorise à mettre en doute cette datation."

Patrick Donabédian, L'âge d'or de l'architecture arménienne, Parenthèses, Marseille, 2008, ISBN 978-2-86364-172-9, p. 199.

Sardur (talk) 05:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Your thoughts are offensive, If I wanted something to change, I'd do so, without being anonymous! The only change I made to "Banak Cathedral" is the move to Bana Cathedral over redirect. That's all! I don't understand who gave you right to name the article “Banak”?! If you agree with Kober about restoration of the Cathedral, after which Armenians are unrelated to it, then it must be named Bana!--Rastrelli F (talk) 05:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

elazig

who are you to ban anyway i removed unsourced unrelated excess info ok if you want to type about armenians type it in the history section of elazig —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mystery.sin (talk • contribs) 16:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Narekavank

Hi Serouj! There's always a risk with these old pictures. It must have been published before 1923 and in the US (which seems to be the case for this one). I would advise some research before uploading any other. Sardur (talk) 08:21, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, by the way, I saw you had some problems with uploading a picture of Dzordzor. I tried to fix it: File:Dzor Dzor church.jpg. Sardur (talk) 08:24, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Propaganda map

They are putting the propaganda map 'again' in the Democratic Republic of Azerbaijan page. Please revert it. 76.250.9.176 (talk) 17:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I wont be able to activate it by the time May 28. Atleast put the other map they had, it is less corrupt. 76.238.247.227 (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

About template

I just feel it would better to combine the two, because the 'History of the Armenian Language' can only go as far as literally describing the history of the Armenian language. By combining the two, people can not only find the history of the language, but also links to other articles describing grammar, orthography, etc. Consider it, and just a personal note, I think a template like the one I created is larger and more eye-catching. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Montyofarabia (talk • contribs) 06:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Historical Armenian churches template

Don't you think it's getting too big? The Armenian Church, Singapore (which is older than the Saint Gregory the Illuminator church of Baku) might well be added and the template will take up even more space. TA-ME (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Goshavank

Hi Serouj I think I will soon try to nominate Gochavank article on wk:fr for consideration as a GA. I however don't have a lot of information on the very last renovation (the famous glass roofs). Given that you're quite active on Armenian churches and monasteries, I wonder if you would have such information. Sardur (talk) 08:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Okido, and thanks Sardur (talk) 15:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Gagik Tsarukyan

Հարգելի Սերուժ, Ձեր կատարած փոփոխությունների մեջ պարունակվում է վիրավորական գրառումներ Գագիկ Ծառուկյանի վերաբերյալ: Դա շատ տգեղ է և խախտում է Վիքիպեդիայի կանոնները: Խնդրում եմ չխանգարել և թողնել պատրաստելու և ամբողջական տեսքի բերելու Գ.Ծառուկյանի էջը:

Հարցերի դեպքում թողեք Ձեր հեռախոսահամար կզանգահարեմLenagroup (talk) 10:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

To Seruj

As you can check, radio station Radio Free Europe has already taken out the offending words addressed to Gagik Tsarukyan. Even more, newspaper “Haykakan Zhamanak”(from which Radio Free Europe radio station took the source and translated the information into English) also has taken out these offending words from its archive text(You can check it easily, the text is in Armenian). So after this I think you should delete the nickname addressed to Gagik Tsarukyan. (Otherwise I can do it myself) Thank You for attention.

Hey there. I've provided an alternative link as well as the quote from the article. I don't see what your problem with the nickname is, as it is a widely used nickname and it is reasonable to have it in this article. Serouj (talk) 16:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey, So you should distinguish that one thing is nickname, another thing is the OFFENDING nickname. According to Wikipedia rules, you cant use offending, and also non-formal words. The nickname you mantioned is not only Non-formal word, but also an offending one.Lenagroup (talk) 06:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Let's understand the situation dear Serouj. One thing is nickname(Margaret Thetcher-iron lady) BUT another thing is offending nickname with slang words. Even more, ArmeniaNow media(the one to that Serouj posted the link) already edited the article. What I want to tell, is that I think all self-respectful Armenian medias would edit this horrible slang addressed to Gagik Tsarukyan if they know that it will serve as link to Wikipedia. Right now, dear Serouj, please understand that no matter what kind of political views you have. No one has the right to harm other person. Lenagroup (talk) 10:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.103.30.132 (talk)

All of the mafia / crime family / brotherhood bosses in Armenia have nicknames. Tsarukyan is no exception. Serouj (talk)

Armenian churches

Please comment on talkpage before reverting anything. Assume good faith. Keep in mind that being rigid and uncompromising on Wikipedia does not help at all in discussing controversial topics. Parishan (talk) 02:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Reverts

Hi. Please refrain from repeatedly reverting the article, like you did in Church of Kish. Please be aware that the article in question is subject to the general restrictions of the arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 2. Thanks. Grandmaster 04:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Could I ask you how you found these coordinates? I searched for them certainly for half an hour... Sardur (talk) 21:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, if needed, I can always try to translate. And also in case, I can send you info from Hovannisian's Armenian Baghesh/Bitlis and Taron/Mush and Armenian Van/Vaspourakan.

Thierry and Donabédian is a wonderful book (though old, 1989). But now I have to update several articles I wrote, though.

Good work for the coordinates! Sardur (talk) 21:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Pics RAA

An excellent news, indeed! I don't have time to have a look at it right now (busy with the fr FA), but do they have something on Gndevank? Sardur (talk) 21:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Samvel Karapetian

Hi Serouj Just in case you didn't see this. Sardur (talk) 21:59, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

"That Brandt is a funny guy..." I completely agree

"Especially since he has no case for the Church of Kish article" it seems you're not aware that he has been topic-banned from all pages related to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran, and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area (all broadly construed) for 6 months. You also may be interested by this post of mine. Sardur (talk) 23:06, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah! something completely different: did you notice this? Sardur (talk) 23:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Then I suggest you look at my contributions on Commons, as I'm trying to organise all those files. A difficult task, any help welcome Sardur (talk) 00:04, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Church of the Holy Cross

Is the Church of the Holy Cross here[1], the same church mentioned and pictured here[2]?? The book Lonely Planet Georgia Armenia & Azerbaijan mentions an Armenian Norasheni Church, but makes no mention of the Church of the Holy Cross. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Population of Armenia

Hello, could you perhaps take a look at my question at the Population of Armenian discussion, see here. Neftchi (talk) 23:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello, you have this whole population caculation WRONG!!!! You keep stopping me from correcting the numbers. Get rid of continent's population and keep Ukraine and Belarus population separate. By User:Hovhannesk My source is Wikipedia, Look in the following:Population of Armenia, type in Armenians in Russia, Armenians in Ukraine,Armenians in Belarus,Argentina, Brazil,Iran, and many other countries. They are in Wikipedia. Come on, I know those sources are correct. Let me correct them, but I guess I need your permission to allow me.

Your templates

Can you please stop doing this? Just use copy-paste. --dab (𒁳) 09:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Dab, that template is used by multiple other articles. By using the template, a change in the template results in a change in all articles using it. Otherwise, we end up with inconsistent citations. Please understand its utility and let me know if you need helping using it. Serouj (talk) 09:25, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Gagik Tsarukyan

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Gagik Tsarukyan. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 06:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Armenians population

These were not there before, please do not put Balkans up on "top", its not needed to be there even, every country is not there by its own, this is "combined" to make it seem there is more Armenains there, its misleading please do not put it there. 76.246.24.118 (talk) 19:31, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, please take a look a the other peoples like Greeks, Italians, anyone, you see there is no "combined" countries population listed. This is misleading and should not be there. It was not that way here before. 76.246.24.118 (talk) 19:55, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Cathedral of Saint Gregory of the Illuminator in Yerevan.jpg

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Cathedral of Saint Gregory of the Illuminator in Yerevan.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --J Milburn (talk) 19:48, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Mount Ararat

The name Ararat is not only explained on the internet. Armenians have books and on Armenian TV channels, they explain the root "AR-AR" , with our other words AR-AR-ICH, AR-AR-ATZ, AR-AR-OGH, AR-AR-EL , etc etc. You do know Armenian correct? Its in our daily language, we dont notice we say "ayd banen "ARAR", yes "ARAM", ed banen "ARA" you see? Monlonet (talk) 20:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Church templates

The Armenian church templates are getting too big. There are so many Armenian churches and structures in the countries listed that they could each receive a template (with both historical/contemporary included). Or perhaps they can be divided by region (ex. historical Armenian churches in Europe). TA-ME (talk) 08:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, we need to think of something. See the templates talk page. We can first divide into three categories: Middle Ages, Early Modern, and Modern. We might be able to do even better: Antiquity (upto 500 AD), Early Middle Ages (500 to 1000), High Middle Ages (1000 to 1300), Late Middle Ages (1300 to 1500), Early modern (1500 to 1800), and Modern (1800 to present). This should significantly reduce the list in each (although if a church was renovated later on, it should appear in the corresponding template again...) Serouj (talk) 08:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

File:Armenia location map.svg...

...is available now. Regards, NNW (talk) 15:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Duduk page changes

Certain people have changed [3] the duduk page and put Turkish origins, and even removed other visual examples of Gasparyan's links above. Also, the right side where it said "Traditional Armenian Instrument" is removed and added Turkish info. Is there anyway you can help out? They have locked the page. 76.232.252.185 (talk) 17:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you help out on the Duduk page? They keep reverting Eupator and my edits back to what it was before. They remove the Armenian info and put Turkish. Please help out here. Everybody knows, even non-Armenians that Duduk is Armenian. Specially from the 2000 movie Gladiator by Gasparyan. Monlonet (talk) 18:26, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Why arent you helping with the Duduk page? Putting Turkish origins isnt vandalism? They are even removing the template of Armenian Duduk. Monlonet (talk) 16:26, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Amaras

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Amaras Monastery[4], you will be blocked from editing. --Interfase (talk) 07:37, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

You are the one vandalizing that article! Stop copy-pasting my warnings to you on your talk page! Serouj (talk) 07:39, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Interfase is the one vandalizing the Wiki webpages. Please stop. Aptak (talk) 21:38, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Stop vandalizing! --Quzeyli 20:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quzeyli (talk • contribs)

Alban xaç daşları

http://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alban_xa%C3%A7_da%C5%9Flar%C4%B1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.100.42.44 (talk) 09:00, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Old Yerevan

Hello Serouj, can you help me and add some info, if you can. Thnak you --Hovik95 (talk) 13:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

iPhone հայերէնով

Բարեւ Սէրուժ, ինչպէ՞ս ես։ Մէկ հատ հարցում մը ունիմ քեզի համար։ iPhone-ին վրայ ինչպէ՞ս կրմաս հայերէն գիրերով գրել։ Հիմակուայ համար, կրնամ տեսնել հայերէն ֆոնթը բայց չեմ գիտեր ինչպես կրնամ օգտագործել այս ֆոնթը գրելու համար։ Շնորհակալութիւն ընկեր։ - Fedayee (talk) 23:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Բարեւ ֆետայի, դժբախտանար այս չկայ iphoneի համար։ Կրնաս նամակ գրել Appleին պահանջելով որ iphone OSի մէջ հայերէնի ստեղնաշար զետեղեն։ Եթէ պահանջ չտեսնան, չեն աւելցներ։ Անպայման գրէ... http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html Serouj (talk) 00:23, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Շնորհակալ եմ Սէրուժ պատասխանիդ համար։ Գրեցի իրենց եւ կայքը ուղղարկեցի բոլոր ընկերներուս որ Apple-ի փոստարկը լեցնեն նամակներով։ Յուսանք որ ասիկա հարցը կը լուծէ։ - Fedayee (talk) 03:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Ապրի՛ս։ Լաւ բան կ՚ընես... Պէտք է այս հարցը լուծել։ Serouj (talk) 03:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Set01-church1.svg...

...is available to replace the png version (File:Gfi-set01-church1.png). However I can't seem to get it to work in the template.

Thanks,

Kevin j morse (talk) 07:37, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Khachkar article

I have started a RfC about the issues involved in the locking of the Khachkar article. Meowy 22:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Ողջույն

Ողջույն, հարգելի Fedayee, ես ռուսական և հայկական վիքիփեդիայի մասնակից եմ: Գրում եմ քեզ, որովհետև դու լավ ես տիրապետում անգելերենին: Հարցը նրանում է, որ ես անգլերեն այն մակարդակի չեմ տիրապետում, որ կարողանամ պայքարել այս քարտեզի դեմ քոմմոնսում: Սա ֆալսիֆիկացիոն է, և եթե քեզ ժամանակ ու ցանկություն ունես, խնդրում եմ, բարձրացրու սրա ջնջման հարցը քոմմոնսից:--Elegant's (talk) 19:02, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Where is mosque in Armenia?

Where is mosque in Armenia?--85.100.42.44 (talk) 16:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC) List of mosques in Armenia?--85.100.42.44 (talk) 16:10, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mosques_in_Armenia only one?--85.100.42.44 (talk) 16:11, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

There aren't many in Armenia proper, since Armenia proper didn't have a large Muslim population since at least 100 years. There aren't any ancient mosques in Armenia, either, although you can find some preserved funerary monuments. Furthermore, just like urban Armenian churches were destroyed during Soviet times, so, too, probably were some mosques destroyed by the Soviets. Many of the Armenian churches in both Turkey and in Armenia date from the 4th-8th centuries, long before any Muslims invaded the Armenian plateau. The large number of Armenian churches in Istanbul is the evidence of a thriving Western Armenian community (Constantinople was the cultural center of the Western Armenian world; you can similarly find over 32 Armenian churches in Tbilisi, Georgia, which was the cultural center of the Eastern Armenian community). In contrast, Yerevan has always been a small town until the 1920s when it became the capital city of Armenia. Therefore, it's no surprise that there are both few Armenian churches and few mosques in the city. Many of the churches in Yerevan were built after the fall of the Soviet Union. Hope that clarifies things a bit. Serouj (talk) 18:26, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Khanate of Erevan islamic art?--85.100.42.44 (talk) 23:27, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Armenian Apostolic Orthodox Churches in Turkey

Besides the Surp Asdvadzadzin ("Holy Mother-of-God") Patriarchal Church in Kumkapi, Istanbul, there are tens of Armenian Apostolic churches. Many of them might be inactive because of lack of a congregation or lack of clergy.

In Istanbul:

• Christ The King Armenian Church (Kadıköy, Istanbul)
• Church of the Apparition of the Holy Cross (Kuruçeşme, Istanbul)
• Holy Archangels Armenian Church (Balat, Istanbul)
• Holy Cross Armenian Church (Kartal, Istanbul)
• Holy Cross Armenian Church (Selamsız, Üsküdar, Istanbul)
• Holy Hripsimiants Virgins Armenian Church (Büyükdere, Istanbul)
• Holy Mother-of-God Armenian Apostolic Church (Bakırköy, Istanbul)
• Holy Mother-of-God Armenian Church (Beşiktaş, Istanbul)
• Holy Mother-of-God Armenian Church (Eyüp, Istanbul)
• Holy Mother-of-God Armenian Church (Ortaköy, Istanbul)
• Holy Mother-of-God Armenian Church (Yeniköy, Istanbul)
• Holy Nativity of the Mother-of-God Armenian Church (Bakırköy, Istanbul)
• Holy Resurrection Armenian Church (Kumkapı, Istanbul)
• Holy Resurrection Armenian Chapel (Taksim, Istanbul)
• Holy Three Youths Armenian Church (Boyacıköy, Istanbul)
• Holy Trinity Armenian Church (Galatasaray, Istanbul)
• Narlikapi Armenian Apostolic Church (Narlıkapı, Istanbul)
• St. Elijah The Prophet Armenian Church (Eyüp, Istanbul)
• St. John the Baptist Armenian Church (Üsküdar)
• St. John The Evangelist Armenian Church (Gedikpaşa, Istanbul)
• St. John The Evangelist Armenian Church (Narlıkapı, Istanbul)
• St. John The Forerunner Armenian Church (Bağlarbaşı, Uskudar, Istanbul)
• St. George (Sourp Kevork) Armenian Church (Samatya, Istanbul)
• St. Gregory The Enlightener (Sourp Krikor Lousavoritch) (Ghalatya, Istanbul)
• St. Gregory The Enlightener (Sourp Krikor Lousavoritch) Armenian Church (Kuzguncuk, Istanbul)
• St. Gregory The Enlightener (Sourp Krikor Lousavoritch) Armenian Church (Karaköy, Istanbul)
• St. Gregory The Enlightener (Sourp Krikor Lousavoritch) (Kınalıada, Istanbul)
• St. James Armenian Church (Altımermer, Istanbul)
• St. Nicholas Armenian Church (Beykoz, Istanbul)
• St. Nicholas Armenian Church (Topkapiı, Istanbul)
• St. Santoukht Armenian Church (Hisar, Istanbul)
• St. Saviour (Sourp Pergitch) Armenian Chapel (Yedikule, Istanbul)
• St. Sergius Armenian Chapel (Balıklı, Istanbul)
• St. Stephen Armenian Church (Karaköy, Istanbul)
• St. Stephen Armenian Church (Yesilköy, Istanbul)
• St. Takavor Armenian Apostolic Church (Kadekoy, Istanbul)
• Saints Thaddeus and Barholomew Armenian Church (Yenikapı, Istanbul)
• St. Trinity (Sourp Yerrortutyoun) Church (Pera, Istanbul)
• St. Vartanants Armenian Church (Ferikoy, Istanbul)
• The Twelve Holy Apostles Armenian Church (Kandilli, Istanbul)

Other areas:

• Holy Forty Martyrs of Sebastea Armenian Church (Iskenderun, Hatay)
• Holy Mother-of-God Armenian Church (Vakıflıköy, Samandag, Hatay)
• St. George (Sourp Kevork) Armenian Church (Derik, Mardin)
• St. Gregory The Enlightener Armenian Church (Kayseri)
• St. Gregory The Enligtener Armenian Church (Kırıkhan)
• St. Giragos Armenian Church (Diyarbakır)
• St. Vartanants (Ferikoy)

Historical Armenia

Ok Serouj, I agree with the proposed definition, but what I meant with the word "ancient", is that Ararat has been part of the Armenian Highland since the very old ages Kevorkmail (talk) 17 December 2009.

Սերուժ ջան, կարող ես ինձ գտնես Սկայպում կամ Գուգլ Տոկում, հարց ունեմ մի հատ: Գուգլում ինձ կարող ես գտնես իմ նիկը շնիկ գմեյլ.քոմ, իսկ սկայպում անգլերեն տառերով սեդրակ.մկրտչյան517design (talk) 07:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Serouj, you didn't reply to my message and my email. One question: if the church was built after 1700 but later ruin, for instance ruined by Beria order in 30s, can it be considered Contemporary? 517design (talk) 09:57, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think if it was in use after 1700, it's contemporary, no matter that it was destroyed later. Serouj (talk) 19:26, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Sari Gelin

Barev, Serouj. Please help me in some little question. I heared, that song Sari Gelin have a deal to Hrant Dink. Unfortunaly my language skills in English poor and I don't know Armenian. Can you add information about Sari Gelin and Hrant Dink to these articles with reliable sources (not forums) ? Thanks in advance. --Movses (talk) 21:16, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Church in Arapgir

Hello, Serouj. I want to make an article about one church in Arapgir. I can't find the name. I found about it here, but it says "Arapkir Ana Kilisesi" (means "the main church of Arapgir"). I can't find the name of this church. Can you help me? Thank you.--Hovik95 (talk) 20:39, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Here. I found the name of the church is St. Asdvadzadzin. I created an article Cathedral of Arapgir. Please help me to improve it. This church really was one of the biggest Armenian churches in the Western Armenia. --Hovik95 (talk) 23:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Church of the Holy Mother of God of the Mens Monastery

Hi Serouj. I want to discuss the name of this church. In Russian sources this church is called "Ванкский собор" (Vank Cathedral), in Armenian sources its called "Թիֆլիսի հայոց վանք" (The Armenian Catherdal of Tiflis). But I never founded something like Church of the Holy Mother of God of the Mens Monastery. --Hovik95 (talk) 14:08, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

See my reference: Thierry, Jean-Michel (1989) Armenian Art. New York: Harry N. Abrams. p. 586 ISBN 0-8109-0625-2 Serouj (talk) 18:03, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok Serouj. I will, but I have one question "Church of the Holy Mother of God of the Mens Monastery". How come the name have both a church and a monastery. Maybe it's just a "Monastery of Holy Mother of God of the Mens" --Hovik95 (talk) 20:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Because it's the church of the monastery (i.e. the monastery's church). Again, see the reference. It's a popular reference book of Armenian art. Serouj (talk) 00:08, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

AA2

Hi. Please refrain from repeatedly reverting the articles without consensus at talk, like you do in Khojaly Massacre. Please be aware that the article in question is a subject to the general restrictions of the arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 2. Thanks. Grandmaster 10:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we need to reach consensus on the most basic facts of the Khojaly events that are mentioned in full by the HRW report: namely that there were upwards of 40-200 Azerbaijani militia interspersed among the civilians. See the talk page. Serouj (talk) 19:39, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Eastern Anatolia region

Ok, there is no problem for me about new version of the article. Peace! Filibeli (talk) 08:26, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Berdavan, Azerbaijan

Hello Serouj, I found the article Berdavan, Azerbaijan and wanted you to also check it out. I think it should be moved back to an Armenian article or deleted. It is misinformation about a town in Armenia. --Liveon001 (talk) 04:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Armenian churches

Please refrain from using the word 'vandalism' where it does not belong, just because it is a nice word to discredit someone's edits. My edits are based on facts and are good-faith, so they do not qualify as vandalism. It is also nice to respond to any questions and comments users raise while editing something, as opposed to obstinately reverting everything. In any case, please comment on the issue here. Parishan (talk) 05:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Awde Losi 2001

Template:Awde Losi 2001 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Ricky81682 (talk) 06:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Important note at Wiki project Armenia

Hello. Have you looked into Islam in Armenia? It'll be a good idea to see it before some changes I made to it recently. Regards