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February 8

Hollywood Research

Greetings,

I am trying to find the name of the show that Barbara Stanwyck and Sterling Hayden starred in on either Playhouse 90 or the Climax show in 1955, 56, or 57 at CBS Television City Hollywood, Calif. John Frankenheimer was the director.

Also, I am trying to learn the name of the lounge that Clint Eastwood played piano at next to the famous Schwab's Drug Store located at Sunset Boulevard and Laurel Canyon Boulevard in Hollywood in 1956 or 57.

I'm in the process of writing a book and I desperately need this information. Anyway you can be of help will be deeply appreciated. Thank you.

John Castle — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.70.137.213 (talk) 04:06, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

The only one that IMDb shows that is close is "A Sound of Different Drummers" (1957) on Playhouse 90, which has Hayden and Frankenheimer, but no Stanwyck. They also worked together on "The Last Man", but that aired on January 9, 1958. IMDb doesn't show any Stanwyck credits for Playhouse 90, and none for either actor on Climax!. The closest connection I can find for Stanwyck is that she was in the 1952 film Clash by Night, based on the Odets play. The same play was adapted for Playhouse 90 by Frankenheimer and broadcast live on June 13, 1957. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Turkish actor

Whats the religion of the Turkish actor his name is Engin Altan Düzyatan? I would like know if he is Muslim or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.31.54.218 (talk) 14:50, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Header amended to something more meaningful. Everyone who comes here needs to know something. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 18:43, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

...such as how to come up with a useful title. :-) StuRat (talk) 19:22, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

We have an article about him, although it doesn't say. Still, considering approximately 100% of people in Turkey are Muslim, I would imagine he probably is too. (Not that that necessarily means he is a practising Muslim, but Muslim by heritage at least.) Adam Bishop (talk) 08:13, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

pulling rank

It's understood Robert Fuller served in the U.S. Army during the Korean War. What rank was he when he got out?24.90.204.234 (talk) 19:46, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

The linked Robert Fuller was born during the war. Perhaps you mean a different one? 75.41.110.200 (talk) 20:24, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

There's also the television actor Robert Fuller. According to a fan site "he served Korea as a sergeant First Class with the 24th Infantry". --Antiquary (talk) 21:00, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

That's the one. Thank you so much.24.90.204.234 (talk) 23:56, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

February 9

Detroit Red Wings and Pistons

What is up with Detroit Red Wings and Pistons having two separate arenas instead of sharing one? Like most other cities with basketball and hockey franchises. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mybodymyself (talk • contribs) 00:21, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Apparently the owners of the two teams have different views on suburbs vs. downtown. The Pistons owner in the 70s didn't like having games downtown, so he moved them to the Silverdome, then built the Palace of Auburn Hills himself. The new owner bought the building with the team and is from Flint anyway. The owner of the Red Wings apparently is really into revitalizing the city of Detroit. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:49, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

There are more Red Wings fans in Windsor than Pistons fans (Hockey being more popular in Canada than Basketball) so it makes good business sense to have the Red Wings downtown. --Jayron32 04:26, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer to my question here. Found all of this to be interesting. As for me I would prefer to see Pistons be in the same arena as Red Wings like most others in basketball and hockey.--Jessica A Bruno 17:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

This happens elsewhere sometimes. The Minnesota Timberwolves play in Minneapolis, and the Minnesota Wild play in St. Paul. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

From 2007-2010, the New Jersey Nets and New Jersey Devils played in different arenas; the Nets played in the Izod Center while the Devils played in the Prudential Center, though both arenas are capable of hosting both sports. They currently are both hosted at the Prudential Center until the Nets complete their move to Brooklyn. The Miami Heat and the Florida Panthers both call the Miami area home, but the Heat play at American Airlines Arena and the Panthers play at the BankAtlantic Center. The Phoenix Suns play in US Airways Center while the Phoenix Coyotes currently play in the Jobing.com Arena; the formerly both shared the US Airways Center, and the newer Jobing.com Arena is convertable for basketball (Indoor Lacross is played there), though the Suns still play at the US Airways center. So, it isn't unique to Detroit that the two sports will have different arenas. In some cities with both sports they share an arena, and in other cities they don't. There are no grand, overriding principles one can learn from the differences; every situation is unique. --Jayron32 23:31, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Humongous Entertainment: PC Vs. iOS

Hi All Wikipedians,

What happened to all the PC versions of all the distributed versions of the Humongous Entertainment games on the Atari website? I checked the kids section and there are only two iOS versions: Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo and Freddi Fish 3.

The following questions are:

1. Were they in attempt to push them out the door?
2. Did they lose their rights?
3. Did they discontinue game support for ALL of them?

I checked the kids section again and the PC versions of all of them (including Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo, Freddi Fish 1, Putt-Putt Travels Through Time, Putt-Putt: Pep's Birthday Surprise, Pajama Sam 2, Pajama Sam 4, etc) are STILL not available anymore. I looked around Fry's Electronics yesterday, but STILL nothing. I looked at Target today, but STILL no Atari re-released games there.

Lastly, I have to address Atari directly... If you plan to follow through with this decision, then I ask that you bring ALL the marketed HE games and your own versions of some of your HE-releated games back. Surely, you can have no objection now that you still no longer care about the games, their users, and Atari customers. And yes, if that sounds a little far fetched, then consider that all the Humongous Entertainment games are the last hold outs for many of us to continue using Atari products at all. Without Humongous Entertainment, and without the PC versions of all of those games, there is no excitement, and there is nothing to hold us here. So, yes, consider your decision carefully. When you discontinue game support for all of the Humongous Entertainment games (including your own HE-releated ones), you do much more than to teach kids of being prevented from buying another HE game. By discontinuing support for Humongous Entertainment games (including your own HE-releated ones), you force us to seek out alternate pursuits, and believe me, it's not likely that people and children will invest years of time and money in a company and product that will pull the rug out from under us with not so much as a thought to what they do.

So please, try to tell me why. What happened to them?

Please Explain,

68.224.119.202 (talk) 03:25, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I think you might get a faster answer if you ask them directly. They appear to have forums where you can post the question and someone should get back to you quickly.

--McDoobAU93 16:30, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I sent Atari a complaint. I will have to see when I get a reply from them. Don't forget about this: HELP TO GET ALL THE HUMONGOUS ENTERTAINMENT GAMES BACK ON TRACK!!! 68.224.119.202 (talk) 18:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I have waited for HOURS for a reply from Atari and they weren't paying attention to me. The message "Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response confirming the receipt of your ticket. One of our agents will get back to you as soon as possible. For your records, the details of the ticket are listed below. When replying, please make sure that the ticket ID is kept in the subject line to ensure that your replies are tracked appropriately.

  :::Ticket ID: QDL-685-88717
  :::Subject: Humongous Entertainment PC Games No Longer Available
  :::Department: Community Forums
  :::Type: Question
  :::Status: Open

Kind regards,

Atari."

So, I can't get a faster answer from them. What I am continuing to ask is that I wanted to know what happened to all of those PC games. Now, I came to back to what your haven't answered: "How come Atari would take those games away, even when they're trying to force us to use that crappy iOS stuff?" It's like hell. Please tell me NOW (and immediately); I've got nothing. 68.224.119.202 (talk) 22:33, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

It seems that you did get a faster answer from them then you will ever get from this Reference Desk. If nobody here knows the answer to your question, then demanding an immediate answer isn't going to change that fact. --LarryMac | Talk 18:33, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I didn't get a faster answer yet. I guess they no longer have support for those games. Holy sh*t, what am I gonna do? 68.224.119.202 (talk) 22:58, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Read a book? Go skydiving? Visit the library? Go to Starbucks? Hang out in an unfamiliar bar? Compliment a member of the opposite sex? Learn to whittle? Practice juggling? Comet Tuttle (talk) 00:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks To Cucumber Mike

Cucumber Mike, Thanks for your help ref to Bo Katzman. Daddytreefrog — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daddytreefrog (talk • contribs) 03:55, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

You are most welcome. For future reference, you can translate any website in the same way, using Google Translate. Just go to translate.google.com and enter the URL of the foreign website. It works best for major European languages (e.g. French, Spanish), and less well for other languages, but it's often useful enough to be able to give a sense of what the website is about. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 07:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Why? (television interview delay)

Why is it that—during a televised interview—there is a significant pause—usually a good four or five seconds—before the other person begins talking? 71.146.12.197 (talk) 05:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Because people need to think about their answer to the question? --Jayron32 05:13, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

They would usually think for more than a few seconds, though—no? 71.146.12.197 (talk) 06:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Most people say "Ummmmmmmm..." or "Welllll..." as they formulate a response, which lets others know they heard the question and will respond shortly. Some do not, however. StuRat (talk) 07:08, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I changed your title to be useful. The reason is often satellite delay, which is doubled, since the person at the far end must wait to hear the question, then we must also wait for his answer to arrive. It seems we lack an article on that delay, but it's caused both by the speed of light over the long distances the signal must travel (especially for geosynchronous satellites, which are much further up) and by computer processing steps. 4-5 seconds seems rather extreme, though, I've only seen delays around 1 second. StuRat (talk) 06:02, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean by “useful”? 71.146.12.197 (talk) 06:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

He means that "Why?" is not a useful title for the questions here. If all the questions were titled "Who?" or "What?" or "Question" then it would be both impossible to tell what the question was going to be about and it would be hard to find the question that you were looking for, if searching, by the title. Think of it like this, in the newspaper the articles don't have headlines that simply read "Story" or "Headline". They make an attempt to let you know what you're going to be reading about. Dismas|^(talk) 06:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I make the same point to my clients, most of whose resumés are headed with the word "Resumé" in big bold letters. I remind them that a book doesn't start with the word "Book" or "Novel", or a film with the word "Film" or "Movie" (although they do admittedly often end with "The End"), so why tell the readers of resumés that what they're reading is in fact a resumé? They surely wouldn't mistake it for War and Peace. No, the very first thing they should be seeing is the name of the person. That is what the document is all about. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 07:53, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Good advice. When I send my resume to someone as a Word document, I make sure the file name begins with my name and includes the title of the vacancy too. HiLo48 (talk) 08:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I've often seen resumes that will have the person's name as title, followed underneath by curriculum vitae or some such. I also heard some interesting advice from a Linked-In expert the other day - that the often-seen line of one's "objective" is often useless, since the "objective" of a resume is to find a job. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:17, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more. It's a summary of your skills, qualifications, experience - what you have to offer. Having short-term and long-term goals is a fine thing, but they shouldn't be appearing on a resume. Telling them your ultimate goal is to run your own business and to have a fulfilling life or whatever is irrelevant if you're applying for a shelf stacking position. Telling them you're hardworking, flexible, reliable and trustworthy is also a complete waste of space; those qualities would be taken for granted in anyone worth employing, plus you'd hardly be fessing up if you believed you were not those things. Equally, people who advertise for staff who "must be reliable and trustworthy" might as well be asking for people who breathe only air. I can understand they get frustrated when they hire people who let them down, and they want their replacement not to be like that; but spelling it out is not going to achieve that goal. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 18:55, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

The delay can also be observed in interviews where satellites are not involved. I presume this is because the transmission is done digitally, and the encoding and decoding of the signal takes some time (when we still had analogue TV signals where I live, it was noticeable that the digital version of a channel was a few seconds behind the analogue version). AndrewWTaylor (talk) 12:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Did two questions get mixed up here? Anyway, I think there is another reason for the perceived delays. When you're looking at someone next to you talking, it's easier to see when they want to stop than it is when you're far away. Sometimes, people being interviewed remotely can't even see the person who's asking them questions. The last thing you want to do is get into a situation where both people talk at the same time and get into exchanging comments like, "Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were done talking." So you want to stop and wait and make sure the other person is done. It's certainly possible for people in remote locations to talk without perceived delays if they're not worried about talking at the same time as someone else, as in Around the Horn. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I was perplexed there until I realised you didn't mean Round the Horne! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.66.161 (talk) 00:36, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

February 10

Modern Don Quixote movie

Few months ago, I saw a movie, where was a crazy old man who thought that he is the brave knight Don Quixote. The things at movie happened at present day and that man fought with wind turbines at wind park. He befriended with young boy, whose mother was dead. I think that this movie was done at Germany. Does anyone know what movie this is? I don't know the name of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.113.124.145 (talk) 03:34, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Is the film adaptation of Monsignor Quixote what you are looking for? The plot summary in that article is more helpful than the one on the IMDB page (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089616/), it seems similar to what you are asking about anyhow. Lhcii (talk) 15:26, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

February 11

Voice of Pres. Ronald Regan in "Big Miracle" movie?

Who does the voice of President Ronald Regan when he phones Russian Premier Gorbachov in movie, Big Miracle? The actor is Quinn K. Redeker. movie credits list Ronald Regan archives for TELEVISION BROADCAST, but the personal phone call to Russia is acted by Redeker. Can he do voices? Nothing about him in this movie in Wikipedia and nothing about his appearing in this movie on his website and filmography. I would guess it was Rich Little, the comedian, but nothing listed on his sites either. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.17.58.36 (talk) 19:29, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the official web site of Big Miracle only lists the primary actors. However, IMDB.com does list Quinn Redeker on both the movie's cast list[1] and his bio page there.[2] Of course, the official cast list will always be posted on the film's end credits.

Furthermore, a number of actors like to downplay and not publicize their brief, small cameo roles like that one, and try to focus most of their publicity on their more notable work. Redeker may be one of them, and would probably prefer people talk about him co-writing The Deer Hunter or his Rex Sterling character on The Young and the Restless, not his small voice-only roles. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

February 12

Is there anyone know www.Poplart.com Oil painting company? Are they real and how about them?

I want to buy painting for my new house, i know www.Poplart.com from google, is there anyone know them? How about them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bordercollier (talk • contribs) 03:25, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't know them, and I have no experience of them. However, some web searching can sometimes help. So... Firstly I did a whois search, which shows that their domain was registered through Tucows on 17th July 2011 and is set to expire on 17th July 2012. No information is given about the company itself. This is not necessarily a problem, but internet scammers will often register a domain in this way, with a 1-year expiry. Secondly, I searched on their postal address, 1605 Glynn Oaks Drive, Arlington, TX 76010 USA. Google maps shows that this is a residential address, and a Google search tells us that this is also the registered address of a company called Thomas Appliance Service. So there's no big company headquarters, at least at their contact address. All these things point to the company being quite small, possibly a new start up. One other thing I found is that they appear to have a blog, at salepoplart.blogspot.com. It's not entirely clear if this is the same company, but if it is, they say 'Poplart Art Industy co., Ltd is specializing in the contemperory oil painting business which located in shenzhen China [...] we develop our own design team and have branch in USA, Franch, Germany'. So it's possible that this is the American branch of a Chinese company.

All in all, whilst I haven't found any hard evidence of this company being malicious in any way, their lack of web prescence (outside their own website and posts made by them on forums) and their use of a residential address, makes me a little wary of recommending them. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 13:51, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

All Canadian NHL Hockey teams win

How many times in the history of the NHL has every Canadian NHL hockey team won their game on the same date? For this to occur, all teams would need to be playing American city teams (i.e TOR vs BOS, MON vs Det, EDM vs LA etc) and of course win their game.24.89.210.71 (talk) 14:04, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Probably fairly often as until 1970, there were only two Canadian teams and unless they were playing each other, on any given night that both were playing, there was a chance of this happening, and both teams were good in the 1960s. I kinda suspect it happened fairly often on Saturday night.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:20, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Niggly point since I agree with you in principle, but there were more than two pre-1970 Canadian teams (Montreal Maroons, Ottawa Senators, Hamilton Tigers to give three others) and post-1970 but pre-1979 (Vancouver Canucks). But still, you are right, probably too many times to easily count. Mingmingla (talk) 02:38, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Quebec Bulldogs too. But from 1938 to 1970 there were only Toronto and the Canadiens, so it should be (relatively) easy to figure out for those 32 seasons. Adam Bishop (talk) 11:29, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Since 1980, there has been at least six Canadian based teams and as many as eight (1992-94). Perhaps the question could be best worded as what date saw the most number of Canadian NHL teams winning their games? In this way, you would include the maximum of two between 1938 and 1970 and potentially increase that number to eight when including seasons in the post NHL expansion.24.89.210.71 (talk) 12:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Sports markets

How do sports teams manage to survive and thrive as well, in small markets? Also, this applies to large markets as well. Where other teams failed to manage to survive and didn't thrive. Mean that all of this applies to the teams can be an expansion or been around for awhile (when the association/league formed/merged or from the start of expansion to the present). Not just in US or America, but the rest of the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mybodymyself (talk • contribs) 20:51, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

A lot depends on the arrangements made by the league, especially regarding TV. The league may be willing to effectively subsidize smaller teams, by letting them have a larger share of TV revenues from league games than they would get if divided strictly based on number of home game attendees. Some leagues also allow the weakest teams to get the first draft picks, to even things out. Why do this ? If not, you can end up with one powerful team which completely dominates the rest, causing fans to lose interest. Of course, this is to help a new team get started, with the idea that they will eventually pull their own weight. If not, then they might soon lose their franchise. StuRat (talk) 21:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

There's the NFL and then there's everything else. The NFL has no local TV contracts, except for the preseason, and splits its national TV revenue equally. That allows the Green Bay Packers to compete with the Chicago Bears. In baseball, small-market teams are clearly at a disadvantage. The biggest spenders in baseball are all big-market teams (Yankees, Phillies, Red Sox, Angels, White Sox, Cubs, Mets, Giants), while the clubs with the smallest payrolls (Royals, Rays, Pirates, Padres, Indians) are from smaller markets. It's possible for a team like the Rays to compete if they find the right young talent and develop them through their minor league systems. It's a lot easier for the Yankees, who can cherry-pick the best veterans by offering them monster contracts. The NBA, like the NFL, has a salary cap to reduce the advantage of the large-market teams. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

In the UK, at least, markets aren't divided up as they seem to be in the US. Teams draw their fans from as far afield as they can, and media will feature whichever teams are popular in their area. A successful team from a smaller town can hope to attract fans from further afield, while a big city may have several competing teams, and is more likely to have other sports represented, thereby reducing their potential fanbases. Finally, some sports are simply more popular in certain areas of the country, so while West Yorkshire can support several successful rugby league teams based in fairly small towns, most large cities in the south of England can't sustain one playing at a high level. Warofdreams talk 13:50, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but you have relegation so a team which won't or can't spend enough money to compete will eventually find its own level.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm unclear what relevance relegation has to this. Having money to spend often correlates with having a large fanbase, and not so much with being based in a large city (although a wealthy owner can make an even bigger impact). Conversely, relegation doesn't always mean a smaller fanbase. And teams sometimes go bankrupt before finding their own level. Warofdreams talk 14:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Without relegation, in the US, some team have chronic poor records. Pittsburgh Pirates, for example.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I am not an expert on the economics of European soccer teams -- I don't know if they have an equivalent to American local TV contracts that allow the Yankees and Red Sox to outspend their competition. But it certainly appears that there is less of a concern about "competitive balance" in European soccer than there is in American sports. Teams from London or Manchester have won every Premier League title since 1995. Real Madrid and Barcelona dominate La Liga. Teams from Milan and Rome tend to own Serie A. The Sheffield Wednesdays of the world have to be content with a promotion to the next division up, a run in the FA Cup and a victory over a cross-down rival. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 15:31, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Football broadcast rights in the UK are collectively negotiated by the respective Leagues, and the Cup competitions are negotiated by the respective Football Associations. As this means individual clubs don't have the means to negotiate their own settlements (and during the last lot of negotiations, Liverpool FC did threaten to do their own thing), they create their own TV channels instead. I'm not sure whether these channels are subject to the Premier League restrictions though. This is all subject to EU rulings however, as it has been deemed to be restrictive trading to only allow commercial outlets the choice of one broadcast provider for their football programmes. --TammyMoet (talk) 17:45, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

February 13

Movie: An artist who consumes pills himself in order to write a book

Does anybody know the name of a movie about a writer who suffers a writer's block and starts consuming pills in order to be able to write again? I think that after writing a book in one day or something like that, he also enters the stock market. The film is relatively recent (last year or so?). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.31.177.239 (talk) 00:51, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Limitless? Limitless—"After finishing his book he focuses on trading stocks..." Bus stop (talk) 00:57, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I think that's the one. Thanks!! --190.31.177.239 (talk) 03:24, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

famous rnb song about a dead dude

I'm trying to remember the name of an R&B song. I'm fairly certain it was about a dead guy. It was a single, and the music video involved a bunch of people walking up a mountain or something. I think at the top there was an angel. I'm pretty sure it was a big hit or something in the '90s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.216.54.208 (talk) 02:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - Tha Crossroads? --Onorem♠Dil 02:04, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes! Thank you. --130.216.54.208 (talk) 03:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

E1 Music / Entertainment One confusion

On 1 December 2011, while trying to research a classical CD issued on the "Koch" label, I ran across two separate articles dealing with Koch:

• E1 Music, and
• Entertainment One.

Confused as to the distinction, I left a nearly identical message on the talkpages for both articles,

• Talk:E1 Music#Merger proposal, and
• Talk:Entertainment One#Merger proposal,

asking "What is the difference between E1 Music and Entertainment One? Why are there two separate articles that don't even acknowledge each other? E1 Music doesn't even have a disambiguation at E1." Neither of these posts has yet been addressed by any editor.

(Edit: That is, E1 does disambiguate to Entertainment One, not to E1 Music.)

Eventually on 21 December I posted a merger proposal tag at the top of each article, suggesting that E1 Music be merged into Entertainment One, since the latter appeared to be the more-developed article. In the meantime no substantive edits have been made to E1 Music, while several have been to Entertainment One. And most recently (as of this post), an IP with a red talkpage has deleted the merger proposal tag from Entertainment One.

I'm in no position to edit either article, since I have no information to provide. I don't want to revert the deletion of the tag, but have no way to contact this anonymous editor. What's really needed here is someone who understands the content of the two articles, and is able to make an informed decision as to whether merger - or at least some acknowledgement of the distinction - would be appropriate. Thanks for any help. (I earlier posted this identical request at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Status of a merger proposal, but was advised to come here instead.) Milkunderwood (talk) 05:15, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Entertainment One is the holding company, E1 Music is the record label subsidiary. Where a holding company's only purpose is (or effectively is) to hold a single trading company, we often make the holding companies name a redirect to the trading company. In this case the holding company holds a bunch of trading companies, and both articles deserve independent existence. The articles should refer to each other and that has been fixed. I also added the dab entry. Rich Farmbrough, 14:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC).

OK, that will solve the problem then. Thanks very much for your help. I've deleted the merge tag at E1 Music. Milkunderwood (talk) 20:33, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

plot of a movie

What was the plot of the indian bollywood movie named 'Nau Do Gyarah' starring Dev Anand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.205.184 (talk) 11:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Our article has a link to the film's entry at IMDB, which has a plot summary. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 12:01, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Converting a song to 8 bit chiptune

Yes, I know you have to do it yourself, but how? What program should I use (what programs do exist for making it)? (I got windows 7). When I search on Google, it always redirect me to forums where people ask for a 8 bit converter.. with really bad answers on it. I don't know why with this types of topics Google _sucks a lot searching for useful things, anyway, What can I use for start "converting" music to 8-bit chiptune? Thanks! --190.60.93.218 (talk) 13:21, 13 February 2012 (UTC) _{found some useful information here [3] but there are any other tutorials like these? 190.60.93.218 (talk) 14:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC)}

• There are trackers that could emulate the 8bit sound, such as what is now OpenMPT. As far as I can remember you have to import your own samples, and most trackers are a bit on the shady side as far as ethics are concerned. This may not be what you are asking for, as I am not aware of any "converters" for chiptune. Tarheel95 (Sprechen) 14:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Yup i already have OpenMPT but it seems to be meant for MIDI anyway I'm going to investigate it. lol --190.60.93.218 (talk) 18:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

ä== character personalities? ==

I've noticed that a lot of stories (it seems) have cheerful/relaxed people as protagonists, with a quieter/more serious people as (the) antagonists (eg. Naruto, The Three Musketeers, Lord of the Flies). Are there any well known examples of the opposite(with the protagonist being a more quite/serious type and the antagonist as a cheerful/relaxed type)? 99.43.78.36 (talk) 17:48, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I think there are many examples in the movies, as the serious character of the protagonist indicates his determination. Die Hard is the first one that comes to mind. Comet Tuttle (talk) 18:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Batman is much quieter and more serious than the Joker. Meelar (talk) 18:27, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Ender's Game. Comet Tuttle (talk) 18:38, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Who are you counting as the antagonist there? Peter? Meelar (talk) 19:19, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

One often used trope is the person or people (often kids) who know about a threat but can't convince anyone to believe them. I'm not sure if you would consider the authorities who ignore them to be the antagonists, though. The Blob is one of many examples. StuRat (talk) 22:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Robocop? old bean. Robocop is well, rather robotic and Clarence Boddicker and his gang while very nasty pieces of work do seem to enjoy their criminal activities. Quintessential British Gentleman (talk) 00:44, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

You can find some relevant examples by browsing "Affably Evil" and related pages at TV Tropes. Deor (talk) 11:50, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

A surprising omission from the TV Tropes listings (unless I overlooked her/it) is Captain Bangladesh Dupree of the Girl Genius webcomic. Mind you, several other characters are not half-bad examples, including Lucrezia Mongfish, several other Sparks, and arguably most if not all of the Jägermonsters. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.66.161 (talk) 06:31, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers financial reports

Can anyone point me to the Green Bay Packers financial reports? Googling things like packers financial report seems to yield dozens of news stories and a few press releases and reports, but I want the actual reports, and none of the stories I've read actually links to the report. An EDGAR search at sec.gov yields nothing. (For those interested, alone among all NFL teams, the Packers are a publicly traded organization, and as such are required to issue an annual financial report.) Comet Tuttle (talk) 18:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure it's publically traded? The website [4] says this:

Can I buy Packers stock?

No. The Packers have had four stock sales over team history: 1923, 1935, 1950 and most recently in 1997. A total of 4,748,910 shares are owned by 111,507 stockholders (no one person can own more than 200,000 shares to prevent an individual from attempting to take control of the team). Not only are the Packers no longer selling shares, but existing shares may not be resold or otherwise redistributed. Click here to learn more.

If the shares can't be bought or sold, I would think that would mean it is not publically traded. RudolfRed (talk) 19:01, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

See History of the Green Bay Packers#Public company. I take your point that perhaps shares are not supposed to be exchanged for money, or "traded", but by "publicly traded" I meant that it was a public company. Regardless, they issue annual reports, and I want 'em. Thank you - Comet Tuttle (talk) 20:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

The Packers are currently in the midst of a stock sale right now, so yes, you can buy some. The sale began Dec. 6, 2011, and runs through Feb. 29, 2012. Details are here.    → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 02:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

One thing that the OP may want to note about the Packers "stock" is that it is pretty much worthless as an investment vehicle: it carries almost no rights, pays no dividends, and cannot be sold, transferred, or exchanged (though I think it can be passed to an heir on the death of the stockholder, or given as a gift to a family member). A shareholder does have the right to vote in elections for the Green Bay Packers Board of Directors, but that is about it. The Packers stock is basically a fund-raising gimmick and a tool to keep the Packers in a small city like Green Bay; having a distributed ownership makes it impossible to move the team. That's why the NFL actually specifically forbids corporate ownership; the Packers are the sole exemption to the rule. --Jayron32 05:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

First advert for dogs

Hopefully this is one our Australian readers can solve. There's an ad for Bakers dog food airing in the UK this evening which is the first commercial aimed specifically at dogs to go out here (see Daily Telegraph article for further details). The telegraph article claims Nestle Purina showed a similar ad in Australia last year, and although there's an article from The Guardian from October 2011 announcing plans to show the ad there, I can find no evidence that it was actually aired. Can anyone tell me if it has gone out in Australia? Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:32, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

The article says it was screen in Austria (alps, Mozart and schnitzel) not in Australia (sharks, spiders, snakes and speak Straylan). Explains why I never saw the ad. Might be more successful if you try searching in German. The-Pope (talk) 14:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Gosh, how embarrassing to make that mistake. It does indeed say Austria. I thought it was a bit odd that I couldn't find anything about it, and I imagine there would be something. Explains why now. I'll take a look and get back to you. Paul MacDermott (talk) 00:22, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Here's an article from the Daily Mail from October 2011. So I wonder if it has aired in Austria yet. Paul MacDermott (talk) 00:26, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Charlton Athletic F.C. 7-6 Huddersfield Town F.C.

This article states that this game is the only time in the history of professional football that a team has scored 6 goals and lost. I find this hard to believe. Is this accurate? In over a century of professional play no team in any country, at any level has scored 6 goals and lost? Joefromrandb (talk) 20:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I find that hard to believe on the face of it. Certainly, some team has scored more than 6 goals and lost at some time in history, given the thousands of fully professional teams playing around the world for the past century or so. --Jayron32 22:17, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

That's exactly what I was thinking. I tried googling "most goals by a losing soccer team" and all I got was the Wikipedia article. But as you say, it seems extremely unlikely that it has never happened. Anyone have any ideas of how I can search for an answer? Joefromrandb (talk) 22:45, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps somewhere in the archives of here, or you could enquire.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

The Top 10 of Football lists the highest-scoring matches in various leagues, but doesn't have anything matching that result (Atletico Bilbao 9-5 Racing Santander is a good one, though). It's far from exhaustive, but it makes it appear plausible. This article (not a reliable source) claims that 6-6 is the highest-scoring draw in any country's top league, which would be a comparable record. Warofdreams talk 23:19, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Now, if one were to restrict the criteria to top-flight or first class leagues, or further restrict it to include league or regular season play, then it becomes a lot more plausible. For example, the above game is listed (without a citation, I might add) at Football records in England. Now, England is a much smaller subset of the soccer playing world and it makes it more plausible if we only consider that. --Jayron32 23:37, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

If you count indoor soccer, six goals for a losing team would not be remarkable. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 00:05, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Austria v Switzerland (1954) was 7–5 in a World Cup quarterfinal. There have only been 19 World Cups. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

If a team should score more than 6 goals and still lose, the minimum possible result is 8–7. Googling those numbers together with some basic keywords will usually yield publications about the 8–7 penalty shoot-out score of Zambia's win over Côte d'Ivoire just a couple of days ago in this year's African Championship, but I did manage to find a page listing some match results from the premier league of Madagascar. It lists a score as large as 11–12, as well as an 8–7 score and two 7–6 scores. However, double-checking the Madagascar section of Soccerway, those seem to actually be penalty shoot-out scores too. I hadn't encountered the footballscores.com website before, but it's odd that a match results database shouldn't be explicitly indicating it when a score is a score after penalties. --Theurgist (talk) 01:54, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

February 14

Filmed before a live studio audience

Are there any American sitcoms still filmed "before a live studio audience", like All in the Family and The Jeffersons were? Y'know, so the audience reactions are genuine rather than coming from a laugh track. Angr (talk) 00:02, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

At least some sitcoms still are. I saw a feature recently about a guy who's a professional "warm-up" guy, whose job is to put the studio audience in the right mood. Unfortunately, I don't recall which show it was. But in both past and present, the genuine laughter has been "enhanced" when necessary. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:07, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I was just reading about "sweetening" in the article laugh track. And I know there are plenty of shows (Malcolm in the Middle, for instance) that have neither a laugh track nor a studio audience. But I'm just wondering if there are any current (or at least relatively recent, as in post-2000) shows where you do hear audience laughter, but it's coming from people who have actually heard the very joke it's in response to (even if the reaction has been sweetened or desweetened). Angr (talk) 00:13, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

It would appear several shows still tape in front of live audiences. I took a peek at ABC's website and under a link for "TV Tickets" it mentioned a company called Audiences Unlimited, whose website can be found here, which provides ticketing for many of their sitcoms, as well as others. Some of the shows listed as offering tickets include Hot in Cleveland, Last Man Standing, Mike & Molly and The Big Bang Theory, among others. --McDoobAU93 00:22, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

British Hip hop ethnic groups

Like French hip hop scene, are hip-hip artists of U.K. are of minority ethnic groups who came from former colonies of Great Britain like Nigeria, Arab World, Malaysia, South Asia, Sierra Leone, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Ghana, Gambia, Zimbabwe, Zambia, South Africa, Seychelles, Mauritius, and etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.35.219 (talk) 16:10, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia has an article titled British hip hop and a category titled Category:British hip hop musicians. You can read through those on your own time, including bluelinks and subcategories of them, and arrive at your own conclusions. --Jayron32 18:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

You left out of your list the British West Indies, which is, in my opinion, the predominant ethnic background of British hip-hop artists - see British African-Caribbean community#African-Caribbean culture in the United Kingdom which says "By the mid-1980s British African-Caribbeans were also incorporating American hip hop and House styles, becoming leading figures in Britain's developing dance music culture." But there are lots of exceptions; Professor Green is white English and Dappy is of Greek Cypriot descent. The British hip hop article says; "Unlike in the US, it should be noted that the British hip hop scene was cross-racial from the beginning. This is due to the fact that various ethnic groups in Britain tend to not live in segregated areas, even in areas with a high percentage of non-white individuals. These places allow youth to share a cultural interchange with one another including musical genres such as hip hop." It's not really my thing though - someone with more expert knowledge might like to comment. Alansplodge (talk) 18:49, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

They also left off Sri Lanka, the ancestry of M.I.A., whose middle finger became all the rage at this year's Super Bowl halftime show. But I doubt that anyone here is going to feel the need to collate the entire list of all known British hip-hop artists and make a detailed study of their ancestry. The OP, if interested, can do that on their own by looking at the links I provided above. Naming a few hip hop artists isn't going to produce meaningful conclusions. --Jayron32 19:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Besame mucho

Dear Sir / Mam,

I would like to know , whether Besame mucho is the song that has been sung by maximum number of singers and is it the most " listened" number. Religious songs not to be considered. How many languages has it been rendered in ?

Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.173.53.28 (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

At one point in history "Yesterday" was the most recorded song ever; the Wikipedia article quotes an outdated Guinness Book of World Records entry that notes that by 1986 (within 20 years of the song's first appearance), it had been recorded over 1600 different times. Seeing as 25 years have passed since that statistic, it may or may not have been surpassed in that regard. --Jayron32 18:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I've only ever heard "Besame mucho" sung in Spanish, whether in Cuba, Mexico, Canada, the U.K. or the U.S. Are songs usually translated for recording? Bielle (talk) 18:23, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

February 15

Sports events similar to the Ryder Cup.

Are there any sports events similar to the Ryder Cup besides the IAAF Continental Cup, the Mosconi Cup, the Solheim Cup and other such championships stated in the article, in which a team (or several) represents a continent? Thanks in advance. --190.19.86.162 (talk) 01:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Tennis has a weak example in Hong Kong Tennis Classic. It's a non-prestigious exhibition tournament with teams of 3. Players are invited which probably in practice means the best or most popular players the organizers can convince/pay to show up (often not the top players). The 2012 edition was "postponed" (apparently cancelled) due to a lack of sponsorship. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:21, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Very interesting! --190.19.86.162 (talk) 04:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I would think that tennis' Davis Cup for men and Fed Cup for women would be in the same vein as what the OP is suggesting, wouldn't they? Or are they not because they're national and not continental in scope? --McDoobAU93 02:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I think the poster is only interested in teams representing a continent or similar. Lots of sports have big events for national teams. Davis Cup and Fed Cup are the main team events in tennis but they are only for national teams. Hong Kong Tennis Classic is insignificant in comparison but some teams represent one or two continents - at least to a certain degree. There are probably other sports with more significant events but I know tennis better. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:23, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

That is correct; I am looking for tournaments that feature one or more continental teams, e.g. Team Europe, Team North America, etc. --190.19.86.162 (talk) 04:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

See National Hockey League All-Star Game, years 1998-2002, where the two teams were "North America" and "The World". --Jayron32 04:55, 15 February 2012 (UTC)