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Morocco

Gosh, you're impressionable! If you want to create articles on Moroccan communes you're going to have to be very careful with the province and commune vs municipality names and categories and ensuring there are not errors. But please hold off on starting any more provinces until the provincial templates are made. You will also need to do dabbing for some and also ensure you add the template and new categories to each article and create.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:21, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mwhahahaha. I'm only doing Al Haouz Province for now, Doc! Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

An ideal stub would look like Ouirgane of course but if you are keen on creating them that's at least a start. Please hold off on the creation until the templates are made because I don't want to have to cleanup existing articles and route out the ones which haven't got the new cats and template/ Before you start each province please ensure you add two categories and the provincial template to the footer of existing articles before staritng and you may have to dab links which point to other articles with xxx, Morocco etc. Meanwhile I have some PD material you can start if you desire.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:45, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Link and I'll mass create anything. Also, see this. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. If you see this you'll find 8000 articles needing creation. I started this. See how to link to wiki source in the reference. Basically you visit an entry there click edit and where it says wikipedia= you add the wikipedia article link then create. However some things you need to do:

a] Ensure there is no existing wikipedia article of that name. If so you will need to dab and add the correct link and also add the name in a hat note at the top of page of the same name or dab page on wikipedia. For this very reason I would avoid the entries which appear to have multiple entries of the same name.
b] Try to add a profession category, 15th-century English people or whatever and the date of birth and death if the article can it.
c] You will need to wikify the text a bit, wiki link a few important towns or people and ensure it is formatted like Robert de Bereford rather than an exact copy. But it shouldn't take long to clean and start and once you get into the swing of things. But be careful, some may be Scottish, even Irish so you'll need to get the categories right. Also most of the text in brackets mentioning document source or whatever can be removed.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:14, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've done John de Berewyk. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:28, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See my additions to it. Also you will need to visit here click edit and enter the wikipedia article name where it says wikipedia=. This will then remove it from the category you initially looked at. OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These sound a fair bit more complicated, so, even once you get going, they will need doing quite slowly. There's no point doing 8000 of them and then discovering that approx 5% of the nationality categories are wrong and no-one knows which they are so no-one can correct them without re-examing all 8000 individually. That's potentially getting into "better off not doing them at all" territory. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not really, if Thine wants to become a great new article contributor I'm sure he'll have no difficulty merely copying text from wikisource and add a few [[]] and categories. The vast majority are English anyway.. The text is essentially there to copy. I suspect though he's more interested in the ones he can factory create at a higher rate but its nice to create a few every now and then.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:45, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion declined: User talk:Tomtomn00

Hello Thine Antique Pen, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User talk:Tomtomn00, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Usertalk pages may not be deleted. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, everything on there is just archived and it redirects here. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:31, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for not deleting it is that even if empty, the edit history can be consulted to tell the history of that talk page. Once it's deleted that history is lost and can't be consulted. So unless there are extremely good reasons, talk pages are preserved for the sake of the records they allow access to. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 09:49, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, okay! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:50, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgaria

OK. If you could create articles the rest of the Bulgarian villages for Ardino like Ahryansko. All of the data is available in here and if you look down the side you'll see the villages under each municipality and just the reference link changes by the name of the village on the end. If you take the time to study it, how the coordinates are entered and the data you should be able to come up with a template which produce some useful stubs on these. When you finish the municipality i'll update your template to start another and so on. OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah start Bashevo and I'll review it to check for errors and then give you the go ahead for the others!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:37, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I ditched the template as I was getting expression errors. See Bashevo. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:42, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah OK. Almost but you need to add the Bulgarian title in the bg: link and ensure the area matches. see the diff. You should be able to do em failry quickly like that.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:46, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, okay. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:48, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I made Bistrogled from User:Thine Antique Pen/sandbox17 somehow... Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:51, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Change the date to 8 June, just spotted it. Also you need to change the name in the title of the sources. A subst:PAGENAME ought to do it. I'll fix your template. But if the titles are dabbed they'll have to be fixed afterwards as the link won't be correct.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:57, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

subst:PAGENAME seems to not work in the reference. :/ Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:11, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah you'll just have to quickly correct then like you did with the last two which look perfectly fine I think. You'll get into a stride I'm sure.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:14, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, okay. Mwhahahaha Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In a way your template functions partly as a bot as it minimizes the chances of errors in tapping in the Bulgarian name and data twice and forgetting to update one of them by just tapping the digit in once when you create. Very evil indeed!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:19, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mwhahahaha! Also known as {{subst:User:Thine Antique Pen/sandbox17|{{subst:PAGENAME}}|AREA|POP|LAT|LONG|LANG-BG|FROMSOFIA}}. Heh. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. One thing though, if the articles don't have coordinates or map don't remove the paramteters from the infobox. Such remove the coordinates and the Bulgaria from the pushpin_map OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:25, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Darn. OK! I found the most notable one: Doyrantsi. A population of 2! Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You know for Turna, Kardzhali Province you could've removed subst:PAGENAME and replaced it with "Turna"? --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:34, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was aware the whole thing needed fixing, yes..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:43, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The "whole thing" never needs to be fixed. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:44, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to say: thumb up on these new stubs! Very informative. Keep it up! Ruigeroeland (talk) 14:20, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 14:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Foxley Wood

Hello! Your submission of Foxley Wood at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 17:22, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A quick reminder: the new paragraph needs a footnote. (I'm trying to get this restarted, but Drmies will be the one revisiting the review, so I thought I'd save time by mentioning it before the review is resumed.) BlueMoonset (talk) 18:16, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 18:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Machine translations

Please don't do that, if you're not able to translate something properly leave it for someone else, adding a bad machine translation doesn't help anyone--Jac16888 ^Talk 21:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was a machine translation, however it made sense in a way, and I would class it acceptable for the time being. I was writing up a new one in Notepad at the time. ⇒T A P 22:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Mwhahaha, it took a while. :) ⇒T A P 17:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Re:GA

Of course you can! I would be honored if you would. And sorry for the long delay, I just wasn't around much these past days. Dahn (talk) 12:54, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Gastropod Project

Welcome!

A very big WELCOME to WikiProject Gastropods for you, Thine Antigue Pen, a new member! We are delighted that you decided to join the Project! Thank you for your interest and your contributions. Are you mostly just interested in gastropods, or do bivalves interest you too? I ask because we also have a Bivalve Project. If you need any help understanding any aspect of Wikipedia, or the gastropod project, etc, please feel free to drop me a line. Invertzoo (talk) 19:54, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, thanks! ⇒T A P 19:55, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgaria

Updated your template 17. Next municipality is good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll start around 16:00 tomorrow, as it's a bit late for stubbing (+research) now (22:10). Regards, ⇒T A P 21:10, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Replied there. Regards, ⇒T A P 21:30, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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upon asking the attacker how he got my e-mail he responds with "Are you that disabled you forget you put the e-mail on your user page." (all the more reasons I don't like e-mailing him) and can I just mention I have no major disablities!--Deathlaser (talk) 15:33, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Bul and Moroc

Next municipality ready in your User talk:Thine Antique Pen/sandbox17, just move it into the main page once you've done the current municipality. With Morocco, if you want to work on them you're going to have to be responsible for creating new categories by province for the settlements and removing the old regional categories, adding either Municipalities of Morocco or Rural communes of Morocco to the existing articles,adding the provincial nav box ensuring that each blue link points to the correct article before starting and if not dabbing them accordingly. Like this for altering existing articles] rural communes category though for rural communes. Once you've done that then you can start the missing ones.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I started Sidi Kacem Province (Mwhahaha)! I'll allow you to make a new subpage every time. Moving talk to sandbox22. ⇒T A P 13:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Before you start please do this to the blue linked ones and create new provincial categories with three categories, 1]Parent region 2]By Moroccan province 3]Province category like this. Otherwise you'll be creating a mess as they won't all be sorted and I won't know which need fixing. I'd rather though you work down through the Calliopjen list systematically though rather than picking provinces at random as I'll lose track of things and what's been done..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nono. Stop LOL. Sidi Ahmed Benaissa is a rural commune. not a municipality, the category is wrong. You'll need to do the munipcalities first then adjust your sandbox and do rural communes. Please listen to what I said about sorting out the existing articles first otherwise you'll be creating a mess for me to have to sort out.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did mine. (Sidi Ahmed Benaissa, Oulad Nouel, Moulay Abdelkader, Lamrabih, Bni Oual and Ain Dfali). Regards, ⇒T A P 13:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"I did mine" is not good enough. The existing articles need to be sorted first. Ouezzane points to the wrong article. It needs to be filled with one for that province and a hat note at the top to the other article. C'mon take some responsibility on this, otherwise its more destructive than constructive as half of them will be wrong categories and missing the modifications. Never start creating on a new province until the modifications have been made to all of the existing articles first, see what I've said above. I'm having to chase you on this when I was busy elsewhere.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:19, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doing. ⇒T A P 13:22, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All you have to do when you start each province is click each blue link and add this and then if one or two point to a wrong article just dab them. One you've cleared em you can then just drill them any munciipalities first, then adjust your sandbox to drill the rural communes, no worries, but it has to be done first before you start..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tekna wrong article link too.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tekna, Morocco, = (Masmouda) also dab the link on the Province article. Once you get the hang of sorting out the existing articles or faulty links you should get the hang of it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:30, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that I'm done! ⇒T A P 13:37, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Free to drill the remaining now. But you see how it gets messy if you don't systematically fix them first.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:40, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aye, okay! ⇒T A P 13:41, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can start another province afterwards and I want to see how you handle the category sorting and creation/ template adding to the existing articles/dabbing before starting. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:40, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, OKay! ⇒T A P 13:42, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Kénitra Province, same region, difference province. Watching you to see how it goes. I wouldn't advise creating zillions of sandboxes. Only keep one for Bulgaria and one for Morocco as all you need to do is just update the province/region and for Bulgaria also the guide bulgaria link.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done fixes. I even had to move Haddada, a page you created to Haddada, Algeria. ⇒T A P 14:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You forgot to change the region populated places category to a provincial one.. Create one like this for Kenitra and ensure the articles also have the municipal or rural communes categories. OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When you add the templates at the bottom just fix the categories too like this.Its more efficient if you do the template adding a category fixes together like this. Anyway, good job on the dabbing I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OKay, done. ⇒T A P 14:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. Look good to go. The next province will be sorted perfectly of course!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:21, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ⇒T A P 14:31, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great, now the next I want to see you do the lot correctly, create a template add the right region in your sandbox, right region in the category you will create etc.. A barnstar will be given for an entirely correctly done province without my assistance!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:39, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ⇒T A P 14:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	Geography Barnstar
	For your efforts to address systematic bias by widening wikipedia's coverage of towns in non-anglo countries and being wily enough to outsmart the good doctor by picking a very short province to win this LOL!! You deserve this though for your efforts to date!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I won't be fully convinced though until you can do a biggy which needs quite a few fixes and that first. If so you can do the lot, so long as you follow exactly what I've said here.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mwhahaha! I'll pick a very big one. ⇒T A P 15:01, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and learn to say thankyou, it goes a long way LOL.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Doc! ⇒T A P 15:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aoulouz is a rural commune..♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aye, I'm getting there, however slow. :) ⇒T A P 15:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done, made all articles. ⇒T A P 16:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so long as you take the responsibility to do the prior sorting and reorganizing correctly when you start each province, you can do the rest if you want. Good job!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'll have a go soon! ⇒T A P 16:33, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done, Tan-Tan Province! ⇒T A P 16:45, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, seems a lot like Essex to me.. ⇒T A P 19:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Small town please or village for rural communes, they are almost always large villages or small towns.. Some may even be smallish village so to strictly call them "town" is a little exaggerrated.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Sockpuppetry

you started a case vs. me at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Deathlaser/Archive and didn't even tell me!--Deathlasersonline (talk) 13:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not required to. ⇒T A P 14:51, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's true, but it would have been polite to mention that the sockpuppet investigation was a mistake, because no inappropriate use of an additional account occurred. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:29, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DL had retired though. Sorry for late reply, I'm using public Internet on BlackBerry... ⇒T A P 16:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is correct that DL had retired. But it would have been polite to mention that the sockpuppet investigation was a mistake, because no inappropriate use of an additional account occurred. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:00, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA

Mechanical pest control lead and all Cn tags taken care of!--Deathlasersonline (talk) 15:27, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Expand history and Methods. Regards, ⇒T A P 18:20, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done--Deathlasersonline (talk) 12:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see no large visible difference (or I might just have poor eyesight). ⇒T A P 12:13, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

YES_TOC

The table of contents is very helpful to your colleagues. Consider restoring it. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ⇒T A P 18:21, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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YGM :-) --Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 12:10, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I sent you some.. ⇒T A P 12:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 12:42, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deathlasersonline (talk) 12:39, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Deathlasersonline (talk) 12:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I finished the pointers you gave me.--Deathlasersonline (talk) 14:31, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Give me time, I have to do things other than edit WP. ⇒T A P 14:33, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now?--Deathlasersonline (talk) 15:48, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deathlaser, I said "give me time" — I'll do it sometime. ⇒T A P 15:49, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CANVASS applies to you

Thank you to everyone for your advice, I have read it all and I will make sure to follow it. ⇒T A P 20:06, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TAP, while I understand that you felt attacked by Bwilkins, the email you sent to me and six other people asking us to "help" against him earlier today was absolutely unacceptable. WP:CANVASS directly prohibits "stealth canvassing" via email, canvassing in which you ask for a particular action (i.e. wanting us to "help" you"), and canvassing an inordinate number of people who aren't involved with the dispute your message is about. Your email, asking us to "help" you in the conversation on Bwilkins's talk page was very much against our rules, and I'm extremely disappointed to see that (if my time-zone calculations are correct) in the time since your canvassing, at least one and possibly more of those people have joined in the discussion to support you with no mention of having been canvassed.

Your behavior here was unacceptable. If you have an issue with the way someone is treating you or your Editor Review on Wikipedia, you have WP:WQA available to you. If it's more serious than that, you have WP:ANI or even WP:RfC/U available to you. What you do NOT have available to you is the right to email six or seven people you think might support you, and tell them to go help you win a dispute with some who says your behavior isn't perfect. Because guess what? It's not. As a case in point, people have been blocked before for what you did this morning. I'm not going to block you right now, because I'm assuming that you somehow managed to miss learning about WP:CANVASS in completing your multiple adoption courses with multiple people. What I expect you to do now, to demonstrate that you understand what you did wrong and will know to avoid it in the future, is this: I expect you to update that thread on Bwilkins's talk to indicate which of the users supporting you there are there because you requested them to help you via email, whether it was the email I received or another. I expect that, if you feel Bwilkins's behavior toward you is an issue, you will open a request at WP:WQA. I expect to never receive or hear about anyone else receiving a canvassing email from you again, because if I do, I will block you without hesitation, as this incident is just the culmination of the many ways in which you don't seem to "get" how we work here. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:01, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am very sorry for this, it was my initial reaction. I almost instantly thought "what have I done". I believe that my actions were wrong and very sorry for it. I have never used WP:WQA and do not currently think of that as an option. I was notified by Demiurge1000 and Dr. Blofeld about my actions then and must regret them. My initial idea would have been a noticeboard, but often I get suggestions from my mentors that they are not the way forward. The only users who commented there who received an email were Demiurge1000 and ItsZippy, my mentors. I did not ask Worm That Turned to go to User talk:Bwilkins as the section begun before the emails were sent. I sent them as I thought of it as a personal attack initially, and seeked help from established users. Once again, I am very sorry. ⇒T A P 17:18, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, your FIRST requirement is to talk to me directly if we have a communication issue. Period. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:21, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was told not to get dragged in and not to comment on places like this that much by one of my mentors. ⇒T A P 17:23, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Advice which I stand by. BWilkins, your behaviour has been a disgrace. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I won't comment on either of their behaviour, (save to say I wasn't canvassed) only the validity of the comment, but I did notice that BWilkins did remove your comments twice, telling you to "Go. Away." and "F.O. already" instead of responding .--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 17:36, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, you have been here for over a year!I wonder if wp:IDHT applies here. in which the editor fails to "get the point". But then again, look at all the positive things he has done :)--Deathlasersonline (talk) 17:43, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say so. I've been active since February. ⇒T A P 17:45, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Deathlasersonline, how are you? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Fluffernutter, you're out of line here - inexperienced editors may seek advice from whoever they damn well choose when confronted with the sort of repeated baiting and personal attacks that BWilkins has engaged in. I would expect an administrator to know better than to engage in behaviour like that. (I would also expect an administrator to have the courage and the coherency to explain their behaviour when questioned about it on their own talkpage, which he's signally failed to do in this instance.)

Although, I do think emailing seven different "trusted people" was more than a little over the top, and said so by email to TAP at the time. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with Demiurge on this, I also received an email and did say that, while I thought BWilkins was being a bit heavy-handed, TAP shouldn't have emailed 7 different people - one or two people to ask for advice would have been sufficient. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 17:51, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Demiurge, inexperienced editors (which TAP may or may not be, depending on who's describing him and what he's done that day - generally users who create as many articles as he has and edit for as many hours as he has and have as many mentors as he has are considered to have some amount of clue) are free to ask advice. They are not free to spam out an email consisting only of the words "help needed" and a link to a thread where someone is criticizing them. That's not "I would like your advice, here are my feelings, how do I deal?" That's "go here and help!" Bwilkins's behavior has nothing to do with the fact that TAP is prohibited from canvassing, the same as every other editor. The trouble with the way TAP handled this, via email canvassing, is that TAP has now poisoned the well as far as discussion of Bwilkins's behavior in that thread - even if it was horrible, the fact that the people telling Bwilkins so may or may not be people who are acting on TAP's request to speak for him means that the discussion is is not the work of - or not completely the work of - unbiased editors. A report to WQA, on the other hand, would presumably have been handled by those who came across it or those who monitored WQA, not by those whom TAP had hand-picked, and there would be some hope that Bwilkins would feel that conversation about his interactions with TAP would be handled by neutral users. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but the behaviour of the party engaging in baiting is very relevant to how TAP (wrongly) reacted to it. See recent arbcom rulings on baiting. Yes TAP has made a great many edits and spent a great many hours on Wikipedia, but he's clearly not spent most of them reading policy.

That's why this very talk page has, in a separate thread, some more whining (or baiting?) from BWilkins about TAP using the wrong wiki-term for something or other - was it "promoting" instead of "granting", "supporting" instead of "agreeing", does it really matter? If it's the case that prolific content contributors can spend enough time reading policies to answer several dozen questions, in detail, adequately - in fact, TAP only gets tripped up on the exact same question as the most recent successful RfA candidate, oddly enough - but still haven't quite mastered every single last acronym and policy and "you may not email more than X people if you feel harrassed by only Y people", then, guess what, the editor numbers are going to continue declining.

Become part of the solution, not part of the problem - go explain this to BWilkins, rather than assuming that the newbie is the easier one to pick on. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:35, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(unindent) TAP emailed me regarding the Bwilkins situation; I know I'm not his mentor, but I figured I could help contribute here. As I told him via email, Bwilkins was expressing in a frank manner the same advice I and others have given him over the past few months. TAP means well, but I believe he is naive and immature with regard to complex social settings. This has shown itself to me in our discussions regarding his userrights restriction when he seems to fail in grasping the idea that each subsequent interaction is built on prior interactions. For example, I think in this case, Bwilkins responded to him in a manner that treated him as an established user with the level of knowledge and experience typical of someone who seeks an editor review or participates in community processes as much as TAP does. See, e.g., Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Deathlaser/Archive.

TAP though doesn't seem to realize or appreciate that he has built up a reputation of sorts that associates him strongly with WP:IDHT. As with any experienced user who keeps repeating the same sorts of behaviors, people responding to them try to be more clear, blunt, and direct to ensure the point is understood. TAP though, not responding in a manner that shows he recognizes they are including their perceptions of his past behaviors in their current interactions, doesn't gauge his response as well as the community might like. Again, for example, I sanctioned him for abuse of requesting userrights and I believe Fluffernutter has also been vocal in expressing their concerns with his behavior. To think either of us would be an appropriate party to approach privately to intervene on his behalf with Bwilkins expressing concerns over his behavior seems to completely overlook the negative opinions we have expressed on his behavior in the past.

As to TAP's mentors and other helpers. I greatly respect them for their efforts. ItsZippy has been a great new admin and Keilana was one of my original mentors back in the dark ages; I have no doubt Demiurge and WTT are similarly qualified. However, I do believe that, in their desire to WP:AGF towards TAP, they may shift their perceptions so that when others criticize TAP, his mentors defend him as being inexperienced, but when TAP seeks out new positions or tasks, they defend his lengthy record of contributions. This contradictory means of characterizing his contributions makes the mentorship appear less genuine and more of an exercise in reinforcing groupthink. Sorry for being so wordy, but I wanted to be as complete as possible. MBisanz ^talk 19:50, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you got the "odd-one-out" email, where I just stated that I found it threatening, nothing else, other than a diff on the WP:ER page. ⇒T A P 19:56, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Matt, I will certainly take your views on complex social settings into account here. It is indeed possible for someone to have substantial contributions to Wikipedia but still not have mastered the labyrinthine rules and terms and acronyms and all the rest of it - hence my comment above about this being a problem that drives away new editors.

I do see an apology from TAP above. I have yet to see any apology or retraction from BWilkins. This leaves me puzzled as to why you are here, and not there. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think its unnecessary to spend so much time discussing it. Thine has an "editor review" which I told him a week or two ago I think it pretty pointless and its better to learn the ropes as you go along. BWilks had every right to comment there, even if he was a little harsh and Thine should have know he'd be open to criticism. The most concerning things about TAP from my perspective is the fact he is very easily side tracked and pursues certain things too excessively. And he doesn't seem to realise that by continously emailing people asking for support he's more likely to turn people against him. TAP you show a lot of potential as an editor but I wish you'd just drop certain things and try to focus solely on improving wikipedia.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:10, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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You seem uncertain what to do with User talk:Tomtomn00. I offer to: move it to User talk:Tomtomn00/Archive/18 without leaving a redirect and protect User talk:Tomtomn00 from creation. It is an unusual action but I cannot see any grounds for objection (TPSs will no doubt now give several!). Let me know if you want that. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:39, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please do so! Thanks for that! ⇒T A P 20:59, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The page notice is still there; would you like that deleted as well? ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 12:50, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If possible. ⇒T A P 15:25, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK

Is it possible to make Dark radiation into a DYK?--Deathlasersonline (talk) 17:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Quadruple it in text length, then come back to me. ⇒T A P 17:16, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK requires a lower standard then GA.--Deathlasersonline (talk) 17:17, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It requires 1500 characters in raw text length. Currently around 400 chars in text, 1200 chars in overall. Only text counts. ⇒T A P 17:18, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Why

Why did you nominate that GA review for deletion.--Deathlasersonline (talk) 15:39, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't really start it and I don't have much time at the moment. ⇒T A P 15:42, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Foxley Wood

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Congrats on the lead DYK!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:35, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Third one out of eight! ⇒T A P 17:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AFT5 release coming up - help us design a banner!

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Films

You could create articles on missing films. List of Argentine films of 2008 for instance. I could provide an example for you, but you'd have to retrieve the correct urls for imdb/cinenacional to source/external link them.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My internet is currently going quite slow and often dies on me. I will once it speeds up a bit. ⇒T A P 16:34, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Everything alright? You seem, a little deflated?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not really! There has been a few threats off-wiki coming towards me.. ⇒T A P 17:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're forgetting to add Category:Municipalities of Morocco to the municipalities when you change the category and add template.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:12, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A3

Hi there, TAP. Please remember that the A3 criterion at CSD is for articles with no content whatsoever. I declined the tag on The secret Annexe because there is content there, however minimal. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 17:04, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have been told that A3 is for lack of content. ⇒T A P 17:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The common practice seems to be to not capitalize ordinary nouns in infobox templates; whether it be village, city, bowler, wicketkeeper, etc, but there are numerous counter-examples. Since "village" is not a title per se, but a rough translation of the Iranian equivalent, it seems to be an ordinary noun and hence not capitalized. There seems no exception in Wikipedia:MOS_(capitalization). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:38, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I would have to disagree with that Carlos. I think it looks strange not to capitalize and looks odd in lower casing. I've started a few ten thousand place articles with capital letters see Mali, Algeria etc. As far as I know its only you and the editor changing the Indian infoboxes using lower casing.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:14, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there, I found User:Thine Antique Pen/welcomebot. This would not pass because of this. I would advise you not to open it as it would be denied quickly. Rcsprinter (talk) 15:13, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I think this was found, advised against, and abandoned, pretty soon after it was created. I'm not sure why it was still in the open requests category, though, so thanks for fixing that. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:18, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, abandoned. ⇒T A P 15:29, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Wedding dance

Hi TAP, I left a few more comments on the painting. Meeting the "brilliant prose" standards is very difficult, and usually requires help from several experienced writers. I suggested someone you could ask for advice on the review. I hope you're not discouraged if this nomination is unsuccessful, it usually takes a while to get the hang of FAC. The best advice I can give you is to get help from copyeditors and peer reviewers as much as you can. Regards, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:18, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've outlined all issues listed there now. Thanks! ⇒T A P 16:33, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. I'll try to revisit the FAC, I've got another couple articles I'm trying to get around to reviewing first though. FAC can be a really rewarding place, even though it is often frustrating. Good luck! Mark Arsten (talk) 16:50, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK! I sharpened the lower right-hand detail image. From this to this. Thanks! ⇒T A P 16:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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2nd opinion requested

Please see [1]. Thank you. 71.212.226.91 (talk) 19:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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+Please see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Centralized_discussion#Wikipedia:RfA_reform_2012]. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/71.212.226.91|71.212.226.91]] ([[User talk:71.212.226.91|talk]]) 19:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)