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Anon. in Violation of 3RR - Help?

User User talk:76.204.89.112 Has violated the 3RR policy, two times over [Here]. Barring the fact that thise editor has also Personal Attacked me here Talk:Manhood (Law & Order) which I'm personally not too happy about...All because I have repeatedly asked for Consensus for a statement that has no reliable internt source, which has yet to be provided, since May 15. Can you please help me out here, Melburnian? Thank You -- MelbourneStar☆ ^{(talk to me)} 13:48, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Best to take it to the WP:3RRN or WP:ANI, I would but I'm about to head off since I have an early start. Bidgee (talk) 13:50, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You Bidgee :) Another Administrator, temp. blocked the Anon. for the Violation. It's the same anon, that wasn't assuming good faith to you here. What is Wikipedia coming down to? :( -- MelbourneStar☆ ^{(talk to me)} 13:56, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank You for your assistance with the Temporary Block, hopefully the IP now understands where I am coming from. I'll do my very best, if he/her tries to, to fix the issue, or find a resolution that both editors agree on. I guess it's the only way. So thank You Melburnian and also Bidgee for the assistance, greatly appreciated. :) -- MelbourneStar☆ ^{(talk to me)} 09:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Look like parts of the south east coast are over-loaded with dumb tags and under-worked on considering what is in the goldmine of trove Satu Suro 13:56, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Full marks to P. Whitehead who was prepared to destroy his car on the flying four mile "so as not to disappoint the big crowd of visitors". --Melburnian (talk) 02:04, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flora of Australia Online links.

You are welcome, but I'm just starting with the list going from the top to the bottom. I am in "Adenanthos". If you want, you may help, for instance, going from the bottom to the top ;) --Canyq (talk) 18:38, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to update some of these a while back, but was having limited success as the web site seemed to have a lot of dead links for a while there, though looking right now it seems to be working fine. I'll have a go from the bottom up on the weekend. Melburnian (talk) 00:07, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stub-class rating

Apropos the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants#One_article_per_species, it seems to me that we should reserve the "stub" rating for articles which are of very limited value as they stand. By that criterion, I don't rate Persoonia arborea as a stub; it's at least Start-class, surely? If it had been written and rated by someone else, someone I didn't know was an very experienced editor, I would change the rating. Peter coxhead (talk) 22:31, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I find the borderline between stubs and start class to be a bit of a grey area. When doing an assessment at this level, I normally just go with a gut feeling but the thing that I have uppermost in my mind is whether the article would qualify as a DYK per WP:WIADYK which requires a "minimum of 1,500 characters of prose (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables etc.)". At least at this level, we can be quite sure that the article has achieved start class. The article as it stands now has 881 characters so is well short of DYK length. On the other hand , the simplest metric for a stub at WP:Stub is "A stub is an article containing only a few sentences of text ". The article has 10 sentences, so by this standard it is beyond a stub. Another thing worth considering is the WP:CL-RULE essay. One problem with this is that we cannot be sure how long the ultimate length of this article might be without a full literature search, and this is something that is not normally undertaken until the article is approaching good article or featured article status. Finally my personal interpretation of "meaningful content" for species articles includes a photo, so the presence of a photo will influence my assessment of borderline cases. Regarding my class assessments in general, where I have not justified them in an edit summary or on the talk page, I am quite happy for other editors to make a considered reassessment.Melburnian (talk) 02:26, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that my "gut" assessment criteria are very close to yours, so I've changed the WP Plants assessment of Persoonia arborea to Start-class. I haven't altered the WP Australia assessment, which is perhaps a mistake but I'm reluctant to meddle in projects I don't belong to. I actually think the borderline between stub and start is less of a grey area than between start and C, but this is probably because I think of a stub as what I now know used to be called a "substub". Given that once put into the stub class, plant articles are very slow to leave, I think it's better to reserve "stub" for articles such as those with <5 sentences and no photo which really do need fairly urgent expansion. The present stub class is so huge that there seems no point in working on it. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:07, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cultivar names and trade designations

The discussion at WT:PLANTS#Cultivar names and trade designations ended with you and I agreeing that this needed to be sorted out into a WP:PLANTS policy. However, as no-one else responded, I didn't get back to it. I happened to stumble on the article Rosa 'Anne_Harkness', which reminded me of this unfinished business. My understanding of the sources is that when the article says "'Anne Harkness' (syn. 'HARkaramel')" this is an incorrect use of "syn(onym)". The cultivar name is 'HARkaramel'; Anne Harkness is a trade designation, not a synonymous cultivar name. I won't have much time for Wikipedia for the next 2-3 weeks, but don't want this topic to be lost. What's the best way forward? Peter coxhead (talk) 19:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't forgotten about this Peter, but have been too busy working recently to have had time to edit. But I think rejuvenating the discussion at the WP:Plants talk page is probably the most logical way forward (and please excuse me for pushing in before Melburnian has even answered!). PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 20:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think it would be best to start a new thread there such as "Cultivar names and trade designations (part 2)" with a link to the previous one.Melburnian (talk) 01:55, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, good idea; I have done this at WT:PLANTS#Cultivar names and trade designations (part 2). I hope my summary is right. Please add your comments. Peter coxhead (talk) 12:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image Request

Hello Melburnian,

My name is Heidi and put together a bimonthly property magazine for Landmark Operations. Landmark is a national organisation that provides farming and agricultural products, via our local community branch for all rural and regional towns. We also sell real estate and we put together a magazine to promote the farms for sale. Each edition, we feature a general interest article and we have chosen a topic of "Mutating Wildflowers" for our October edition. I was hoping you could please send through some high resolution images to accompany the article of the Eremophila glabra (hybrid plum. I have browsed your webpage and see that you have a couple of fantastic images of this magnificent flora. Ideally, I need high resolution images (approximately 1MB) for publishing. I would certainly credit your image to yourself and ensure you receive a copy of the magazine too. If you need any further information, please feel free to email me or call me, otherwise, I would be grateful to receive any photos you could provide.

Kind regards, Heidi Email: [redacted] Phone: [redacted] 203.15.249.33 (talk) 06:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Draft template

Hi Melburnian, FYI, if you add the template {{Userspace draft}} to your draft pages, they won't show up on Google. Cheers, Melchoir (talk) 00:33, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks for the advice. Melburnian (talk) 00:44, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ptilotus nobilis

On 28 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ptilotus nobilis, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the horticultural varieties of Ptilotus nobilis include 'Passion', 'Poise' and 'Purity'? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ptilotus nobilis.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:38, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Persoonia myrtilloides

On 28 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Persoonia myrtilloides, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the myrtle geebung is a food item for native bees, currawongs and possibly kangaroos and possums? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Persoonia myrtilloides.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 23:52, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Prostanthera stenophylla

On 9 October 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Prostanthera stenophylla, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the mintbush Prostanthera stenophylla grows in sandstone pagodas? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Prostanthera stenophylla.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

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Photo source

Hi I just spent a few hours with User:Raygday he owns http://www.gdaywa.com/ and is willing to share some of his many photographs with us under the necessary free license. checkout some his stylidium animations. He already has a commons account drop him a note if there are any images of interest. Gnan garra 16:19, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hu Gnang, good to hear from you. There are indeed some excellent photos on his site. I'll have a look through and see what may inspire some new articles. Thanks, Melburnian (talk) 23:12, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Wiki Conference India

Hello, Can you please review this, I have removed all the plagiarism. Only the Tag need to be removed. I am suggesting a hook here, please consider. ALT...that the three day wiki conference is running from 18th to 20th of November in Mumbai University, Mumbai, India. If you are online please make a decision ASAP. We don't have much time. Thank you. -- aηsuмaη :)^༽Ϟ 07:31, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Grevillea baileyana

On 22 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Grevillea baileyana, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that foliage from the Australian rainforest tree Grevillea baileyana was used in the floral arrangements handed to medal winners at the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Grevillea baileyana.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 08:02, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dampiera purpurea

On 29 November 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dampiera purpurea, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that skippers, lycaenids and honeybees visit the flowers of Dampiera purpurea? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dampiera purpurea.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 20:10, 28 November 2011 (UTC) 16:03, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Androcalva/Rulingia

The abstract says that 4, not 2, species have been "tranferred" from Rulingia to Androcalva. Lavateraguy (talk) 12:33, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed, I have now made the corrections, thanks for letting me know. Melburnian (talk) 04:44, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added sauce award

is awarded to Melburnian for hunting down and adding a d.o.b. reference to the Molly Meldrum article, as all our dishes are better with added sources (sauces). It is particularly piquant that I was looking for such a source for years! I'm impressed.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 19:20, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it shows what a great resource Trove is. Thanks for your work on improving and referencing the article. Melburnian (talk) 21:49, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Xmas

	Merry Christmas
	From me, a happy NSW Xmas bush Xmas from us all down here in Oz (damn, should have 5x expanded that for this Xmas...is there still time I wonder....) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:50, 25 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Australia Day! Thank you for contributing to Australian content!

	Australian Wikimedian Recognition (AWR)
	Thank you for your contributions on English Wikipedia that have helped improve Australian related content. :D It is very much appreciated. :D Enjoy your Australia Day and please continue your good work! LauraHale (talk) 01:54, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

new species

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/charlies-gold-rare-plant-discovered-in-goldfields-20120225-1tuuc.html Gnan garra 03:20, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it's cool to know that there are still new species out there waiting to be discovered. When it lands here I'll make an article for it. Melburnian (talk) 06:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now if only Southern Cross was a wee bit closer Gnan garra 14:34, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Horticulture and Gardening invitation

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If you would like to participate or join, please visit the project page for more information. Thanks! Northamerica1000^(talk) 04:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much

Thank you very much by your unselfish cooperation in the Article "Biodiversity of New Caledonia". Muchas gracias por tu colaboración desinteresada en el articulo "Biodiversidad de Nueva Caledonia". Curritocurrito (talk) 13:41, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Science lovers wanted!

Hi! I'm serving as the wikipedian-in-residence at the Smithsonian Institution Archives until June! One of my goals as resident, is to work with Wikipedians and staff to improve content on Wikipedia about people who have collections held in the Archives - most of these are scientists who held roles within the Smithsonian and/or federal government. I thought you might like to participate since you are interested in the sciences! Sign up to participate here and dive into articles needing expansion and creation on our to-do list. Feel free to make a request for images or materials at the request page, and of course, if you share your successes at the outcomes page you will receive the SIA barnstar! Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to your participation! Sarah (talk) 01:11, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Hi Melburnian, thank you for your kind thoughts on my talk page. I have likewise enjoyed our interactions. Remember the "What looks like peas?" discussion from January 2011? That was priceless. Best wishes. Nadiatalent (talk) 20:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC) (P.S.: You might occasionally see a few edits from someone who sounds a bit like me, for old-time's sake).[reply]

Ha, "What looks like peas?" had a lot of people (including me) scratching their heads. See you (or someone like you) 'round.--Melburnian (talk) 01:22, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Albert de Lestang

Are you (or some one?) planning to nominate Albert de Lestang for DYK? If not, I would be happy to. --LauraHale (talk) 11:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes your welcome to go for it. I didn't know about this guy before I came across this, an interesting subject. I'm going to do a bit more tweaking in the meantime. Melburnian (talk) 11:58, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Albert de Lestang

On 20 June 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Albert de Lestang, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that in 1946, French-Australian botanist Albert de Lestang provided the botany world with some rare seeds they had been looking for since 1852? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Albert de Lestang. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Disphyma crassifolium subsp. clavellatum

Hello,

Would you be interested in having your photo included in my book that I am self-publishing, which is going to be called Alternative Crops for Drylands?

Here is the photo I would like to use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Disphyma_crassifolium_subsp._clavellatum.jpg

What is your full name that you would like me to include in the credits? Also, where was this picture taken?

Please respond to me at my email address: acfdrylands@hushmail.com

Thanks, Scott O’Bar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.187.182.2 (talk) 03:17, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

help needed

my user page - I am stuffed that I can pin it down... any clues would be appreciated (note p;attern of leaf) - cheers - Satu Suro 12:37, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I had a look at it when you put it up (not that I'm stalking you or anything ;-), but those Fabaceae can be tricky. Whereabouts was it taken? --Melburnian (talk) 12:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

please - I have so many people watching my user page (god knows who or why - ....) your watching it is no problem and in fact

welcomed.... some where in darling range - but what bothers me is the leaf shape - i suspect it is a daviesii that i havent closely enough checked through on florabase - also the fairly solid front brown thingo... the donkey orchid down the street almsot looks like the flower - at the moment.. Satu Suro 13:12, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll put it here for future reference.--Melburnian (talk) 13:32, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have a horrible suspicion that my commons account has over 20 unidentified items from 4? or 5? years ago when gnangarra and i went up into a reserve or two in the wheatbelt... it was when i discovered a fascination with lichen... anyways I will try to keep you in mind if and when i get a +ve id on it... or if you do, please let me know... fabaceae we agree, its not horrida.. its the damned leaf profile that is the main clue... Satu Suro 13:47, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In C.A. Gardner's Wildflowers of Western Australia it looks like the picture of Bossiaea aquifolium on page 55. It occurs in the Darling Range too.--Melburnian (talk) 00:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

beard plant life identifies northern jarrah forest - which it is as well - The WA flora descrip cat - has 3 subsp - its off to florabase i go! yup looks very like it http://florabase.dec.wa.gov.au/browse/photo/3704 - just a bit picky about the descrip cat's subspecies - will need to double check - after all these years - thanks your help and encouragement is always appreciated Satu Suro 01:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting Burns in his little book about my old home area [ Burns, Cliff; Burns, Sharron; Taylor, Anne; Day, Peter; Burns, Cliff; Burns, Sharron (2011), Local flora and bushlands : Darlington and surrounds : 404 local species photographed (1st ed ed.), Cliff and Sharron Burns, ISBN 978-0-9806454-1-5 {{citation}}: |edition= has extra text (help) ] doesnt include it... Satu Suro 01:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Check out this map (pan and zoom in) for location of records.--Melburnian (talk) 01:25, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

wow what an amazing resource!! the northern most north easternish dot is it... thanks for the link - intriguing!! Satu Suro 01:29, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Enchylaena tomentosa

Hello,

Would you be interested in having your photo included in my book that I am self-publishing, which is going to be called Alternative Crops for Drylands?

Here is the photo I would like to use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enchylaena_tomentosa.jpg Do you have a higher quality version?

What is your full name that you would like me to include in the credits? Also, where was this picture taken?

Please respond to me at my email address: acfdrylands@hushmail.com

Thanks, Scott O’Bar

184.187.182.2 (talk) 21:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]