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Speedy deletion nomination of William Henry Gorman

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Aircraft articles

Thanks for your new aircraft articles, can I just ask if you create any more then please add them to Wikipedia:New articles (Aircraft). This allows members of the aircraft project to review and assess new articles and help if needed. Thank you. MilborneOne (talk) 20:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder if you list your new articles at Wikipedia:New articles (Aircraft) it helps other aircraft article editors to review and assess new articles and help if needed. MilborneOne (talk) 20:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Convair Model 118

BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gee Bee Model Z

Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Velocity, Inc.

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Your DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of Zyzzyva at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

If you're able to further expand the article to 1500 characters of prose, please update your DYK submission. See WP:DYK#Selection criteria for more details. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorrell Hiperbipe

Thank you for adding the image to this article! That helps bring the subject to life a lot! - Ahunt (talk) 10:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wag-Aero CUBy

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:03, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Autogiro Company of America AC-35

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Berliner Helicopter

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Smithsonian aircraft

Hi there, I thought you might want to take a look here before adding more aircraft articles to Category: Aircraft in the collection of the Smithsonian Institution. - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 20:37, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Culver Aircraft Company

Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject United States

Hello, FlugKerl! WikiProject United States, an outreach effort supporting development of United States related articles in Wikipedia, has recently been restarted after a long period of inactivity. As a user who has shown an interest in United States related topics we wanted to invite you to join us in developing content relating to the United States. If you are interested please add your Username and area of interest to the members page here. Thank you!!!

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Barnstar

		The Citation Barnstar
		For finding a whole bunch of useful refs for ERCO Ercoupe - Ahunt (talk) 17:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Curtiss Lark

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Revolution Mini-500

Thanks so much for finding a photo of this helicopter, that really helps bring the article to life! - Ahunt (talk) 13:08, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Franklin PS-2

Thanks for finding the PS-2 photo as well! - Ahunt (talk) 14:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Curtiss Bleeker SX-5-1 Helicopter

Interesting article subject! I removed the aviastar.org article as a ref for this. We aren't using that website as a source as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft/Aviastar. I just thought you'd like to know about this guideline, incase you missed hearing about it when it was added. - Ahunt (talk) 21:44, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

ID

Evening FlugKerl: Am I right to think that FlugKerl2 is someone completely different? I'm trying to get info on a photo (of a Twin Navion) by him or her! TSRL (talk) 21:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I've been dabbling in Temco aircraft lately, so when I saw the photo I wondered which Twin Navion it was, the Camair or the Temco/Riley. After staring at some images in Jane's AWA 1956/7 I convinced myself it shows the Temco, largely because of the curved fin leading edge, but also the twin nose-lights. Both types could have tip tanks. Its windscreen is different from those in the 1956 shots of both types, having no central pillar, but I guess these things get renewed. Do you agree with this identification? Maybe there is a serial or Oshkosh record as a cross check. If it can be definitely typed it would be helpful to annotate the photo info. Cheers, TSRL (talk) 08:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info on TTN39/N108N and also for revising the caption and photo info. If you are going to do the TEMCO Riley, then JAWA56/7 has an article on it, plus another on the Camair for comparison, both quite detailed.TSRL (talk) 19:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Agusta GA-series engines

FlugKerl, I've noticed you've been working on engines made by Agusta, such as the Agusta GA.40 and Agusta GA.70. I've added a section for their engines at Agusta#Aircraft engines. Do you know if there are many more original engines made by Agusta? If there aren't too many, say under 8 or so, we can add these engines to Template:AgustaWestland aircraft. If there are more than 8-10, we could create a separate infobox for the engines. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 09:30, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Date format

Nice article on the Chester Swee'Pea, if a little short.I had to edit your dates to the standard Wikipedia format of dd mm yyyy - e.g. 20 July 1947. Not a big problem, but bear it in mind for your future articles as dates not in this format will be changed by someone eventually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petebutt (talk • contribs)

Abrial A-260 et al

Thanks for contributing to the Aviation Project. Your Abrial A-260 article is a little short even for a stub,and might be confused with a place-holder posted just to turn a red-link blue. Carry on writing articles, but can you ensure that they have more flesh before posting. A second source with spec.s and more info would be nice too. The idea of the red-link is to indicate where an article is required to be written. Posting sub-stubs just to remove red-links is counter-productive and against WP:REDDEAL. I am not posting this to be antagonistic;if you wish to discuss it further, append to this entry or at my ser page or better yet on Talk:List of aircraft. Keep up the good work, just a lot more before posting please.Petebutt (talk) 04:45, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate articles

Hi, you appear to have created a duplicate of Velie Monocoupe with Monocoupe Model 22. Your article is referenced, the other (which I believe ids the more common name) has a photo. I notice that the manufacturers are different in each article. It has been suggested that the referenced material from the new article is merged into Velie Monocoupe leaving a redirect behind. Cheers. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 19:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Bit confused FlugKerl you have edited the Velie Monocoupe article to show it appears between the Model 22 and Model 90 but the Model 22 article doesnt clarify the relationship. Are they the same aircraft? can they be merged? MilborneOne (talk) 11:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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Wikiwings

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		For taking a ton of great photos at AirVenture 2011 and then organizing them, labelling them and taking the time to put them into the applicable aircraft type articles. Pictures really help make aircraft articles come to life! - Ahunt (talk) 12:11, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Awesome Stearman C3B photo

Awesome photo!

This is a great photo! I didn't think you would mind, but I have moved it up to the info box at Stearman C3. Your trip to OSH this year is proving to be a gold mine for Wikipedia! - Ahunt (talk) 23:01, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion for WikiProject United States to support WikiProject Maryland

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DC-area Meetup, Saturday, October 8

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Your edit of Independence Municipal Airport (Kansas) article

Thank you for your edit of the Independence Municipal Airport (Kansas) article. Could you please provide the page number from the February 2008 Flying Magazine and add it to the article citation that you recently edited? I am unable to locate the information that you cited in the IDP article in the magazine. Cuprum17 (talk) 18:09, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

It's page 24. Thought that it was interesting that they noted the first plane handled FlugKerl (talk) 18:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt reply. It would have been a Cessna aircraft because Cessna operates the tower at IDP. As a part of the agreement with the City of Independence, Cessna has to supply the tower operations with personnel during parts of the day. I would guess that 90% of the traffic at the airport is generated by Cessna through their testing and certification operations at the local Cessna plant. Independence is the single-engine facility and the Cessna Citation Mustang line is located here. Cessna has been good for the city, but I can't help but wish that they had a larger backlog of aircraft to build these days. The economy has been rough on the general aviation industry and lay-offs at Cessna has not helped the local economy. Montgomery County where Independence, Kansas is located has the worse un-employment rate in Kansas lately. I hope things get better. Cheers. Cuprum17 (talk) 13:08, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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Merge discussion for [[Church Marathon J-3 Engine]]

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Season's tidings!

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Speedy deletion nomination of San Francisco and Oakland Helicopter Airlines

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A barnstar for you!

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	Thanks for creating Aspen Avionics, and for this improvement to Wikipedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

New aircraft articles

Don't forget that you can announce new aircraft articles at Wikipedia:New articles (Aircraft)Petebutt (talk) 15:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello FlugKerl. Congratulations on creating Richard VanGrunsven. It is a great article and well-sourced. I have just done a little copy-editing. The opening paragraph includes the following sentence: The number of VanGrunsven-designed homebuilt aircraft produced each year in North America exceeds the combined production of all commercial general aviation companies. Could you check the source cited for this sentence because I think the sentence contains an error? It states that the number of Vans' aircraft "produced each year in North America exceeds ... " and compares it with "all commercial general aviation companies." Vans' aircraft are manufactured in large numbers by amateur builders all around the world, not just in the USA and Canada, so the large number of such aircraft produced annually shouldn't be confined to North America. Secondly, if you are talking about "all commercial general aviation companies" you are including such companies world-wide. The number of aircraft produced by the world's general aviation companies is unlikely to be known with any accuracy because, outside North America, Europe and other English-speaking countries, aircraft manufacturers don't report their production statistices to anyone, and are not obliged to do so. I suggest the sentence should say:

• The number of VanGrunsven-designed homebuilt aircraft produced each year exceeds the combined production of all commercial general aviation companies in North America.

Dolphin (t) 03:01, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

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Oshkosh

I see that you are adding a ton of photos from OSH! Hey those are great additions! I was just wondering if you manged to snap a photo of the prototype Van's Aircraft RV-14 that was there? The article could use a photo! - Ahunt (talk) 21:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC) Van's had a prototype there. To many people around it to get a unobstructed photo... This one will have to do for now. FlugKerl (talk) 21:47, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Those will do just fine. Thanks for adding them! - Ahunt (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Knoll Aircraft Company

Hey FlugKerl, I just thought I'd let you know that I saw your article Knoll Aircraft Company in the New Articles list-- There is a good number of citations and references.However, I think the article seems to contain a few errors: the article is confusing. I do not understand what you are trying to say.It would be great if you could also add references to the related article Heinrich Hertel.

It's nice to see you editing! Amy Z (talk) 02:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

It is choppy.. The whole article started as a small citation about the beechcraft factory from a flying magazine article. Which had a mention of the yellow air cab company that I remembered in an old article on a Stout airplane I made a year ago, which led to the Knoll aircraft company, that was based at the same site, which led to half a dozen more airplane articles left to create. My articles are pretty choppy, as I gather every citation and ref I can, place them in the standard template, then build from there. In this case, Knoll has a half decent website to build from, but personal websites are not the best primary sources. I hope others with good sources can help fill in the prose in the middle. In this case, I could probably email a few people in the Wichita area and get some good stories to add... but one of Wikipedia's challenges is that if you really like a subject, you can't just add original research, even if you know the guy who built the aircraft. I doubt there is much out there on Knoll aircraft, but every once in a while I find a detailed article or newspaper story to build off of. I'll try to clean up the associated pages right after I get all my summer airshow photos imported into relevant pagesFlugKerl (talk) 04:05, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Livingston Gilson Irving for deletion

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Request for an Interview

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