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Anyone may play in my sandboxes, in the archive list to the right, IF you promise to behave. This means:

• No kicking sand
• No hitting other people over the head with toys
• No pooping, even if you are a cat and neatly cover it up!
• It's my sandbox, so I can throw you out if you misbehave!  :-)

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Awww, gee! That was really super nice! Thank you! Montanabw^(talk) 04:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

'tis the season

Louisa Venable Kyle wrote a children's book on The Witch of Pungo --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:50, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Precious translates to the PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

This is cool

Parking the link: https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/TED_conferences/TED_speakers_challenge/Participants#Prizes

Nation building

Pls see Talk:Iron Confederacy#Infobox....note the same change at Blackfoot Confederacy. Any sources for this kind of assertion? --Moxy (talk) 18:07, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Ah, the usual POV-pushing by people with their own agenda. Same editor. Also, that infobox is being merged with {{Infobox country}}. I have to admit that {{Infobox organization}} isn't ideal either... is there a template for "ethnic groups that formed political and military alliances"? (pinging RexxS and Pigsonthewing for infobox advice. Montanabw^(talk) 21:50, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Thomas Laspeyre

I think Thomas Laspeyre may have become a Democratic city attorney in Butte, Montana after the war, but I am not sure it is the same person. He would have died in 1883. Are you able to find a full obituary please?Zigzig20s (talk) 10:41, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Zigzig20s[1] SusunW (talk) 17:46, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

User:SusunW: This is hard to read. Would you be able to transcribe it for me please? "For a while he engaged in ??".Zigzig20s (talk) 17:52, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

I can't read which year he arrived in California either.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:05, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Zigzig20s "Although Col. LaSpeyre had been a resident of Butte less than two years his sterling character and many qualities had gained him an enviable position in the estimation of the community, and the sudden death of but few men could have caused so great a shock. While on a professional visit to Anaconda last Monday he contracted a heavy cold which resulted in an attack of acute pneumonia which prostrated him on Wednesday. From that day the ravages of the disease did their work with remarkable rapidity and on Sunday morning at 9:30 he breathed his last. The deceased was a pioneer on the Pacific coast emigrating from North Carolina, his native state to California in 1853. For a time he engaged in placer mining in the Golden state but afterwards located in San Joaquin county in the practice of his profession. At the outbreak of the war he represented his county in the California legislature, where he gained considerable note as the author and advocate of a resolution providing for the secession from the Union of the State of California. Subsequently he removed to Eureka, Nevada, where he practiced law for several years and in 1881 he became a citizen of Butte. At the lasterly election he was elected city attorney which office he held at the time of his death. He was unmarried and had no immediate relatives in Montana, but a sister resides in Florida, and another sister in Georgia, and numerous relatives in North Carolina.His age is believed to have been49 years. The remains will be buried from the Episcopal church at 10 o’clock this morning under the auspices of the Bar Association and the order of Odd Fellows, of which he was a member." SusunW (talk) 18:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

SusunW: Thank you, I've added more. Did he become a colonel in the Confederate States Army?Zigzig20s (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Zigzig20s I have no idea. Didn't look at the article, was simply responding to your request for an obit and a transcript. I've never heard of this guy before. SusunW (talk) 18:39, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Strange that he went by "Colonel" but they don't explain why.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:44, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Probably not if he was in California by the time the war broke out. Titles with no meaning happens often enough -- someone in a minor local militia might have such a title, or it could even be honorary. ( Colonel Sanders?). Montanabw^(talk) 19:45, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Well, Lansford Hastings became a Major in the CSA even though he was living in California. It's a very under-researched area.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:53, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Definitely interesting. Montana was settled by veterans of both sides. History of Butte is a life's work itself. I will see if KingJeff1970 has any info also. Montanabw^(talk) 20:02, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

No reply. I guess nobody knows.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:30, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Notable?

Should we create an article about Horsey McHorseface? [2] Montanabw^(talk) 23:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC) (grinning, ducking and running...)

Help, please...

Ok, I tried to create a Meadows Foundation (disambiguation) because we have Meadows Foundation and The Meadows Foundation (Dallas), so I'm thinking there should be a redirect for Meadows Foundation to the disambig page I just created (unless the disambig & redirect all happens on the same page). Another option could be to rename Meadows Foundation to Meadows Foundation (New Jersey) but if we do that, do we still need the disambig page? Anyway...HELP??!!! ^{Atsme📞📧} 15:11, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) I think I can help here ... I have page mover rights. What you want is WP:ROUNDROBIN to move the disambig page to Meadows Foundation, and rename the other page to maybe Meadows Foundation (New Jersey)? - Bri (talk) 15:14, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Bri - I'm not quite sure what to do. I was working on the Wilson Block and wikilinked the Meadows Foundation, but I linked the wrong one. Didn't realize it until The Meadows Foundation (Dallas) was tagged as an orphan. Just need to do whatever is easiest for editors and readers to get to the right page. If you think RoundRobin will do it, please do. ^{Atsme📞📧} 16:55, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I did the swap. If there are more Meadows Foundations, they can be added to the dabpage, Meadows Foundation. - Bri (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!! ^{Atsme📞📧} 02:58, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

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Could you please...?

Add the links to the USEF PDFs on Welsh Pony and Cob to the article's refs to replace the dead webpage links? I can download PDFs, but can't copy the url before it vanishes. (Maddening! 😬) I've asked on the Help Desk to see if they have advice for mobile phones, but no replies yet. Has to be done as part of the review, which started yesterday. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:39, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Will do. Stay tuned. Montanabw^(talk) 21:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

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I don't know if you've seen her but I thought you might enjoy this article on Starresha, registered as a bay. Might be a good source for updating the breed characteristics in the thoroughbred article talking about colors.

Oh, and do you think anyone has the energy to work on our next good article? Of the articles I've worked on lately, Man o' War is pretty decent and might be closest, Dan Patch could use a review but is decent, and I've just finished an upgrade on Dr. Fager (though I still have a bunch of sources to flip through - Steve Haskin loves to write about him!) And I'd love to get Northern Dancer upgraded as part of the Canada 10,000 project. Jlvsclrk (talk) 04:12, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Charmayne James image

As per our previous discussion regarding this image file of the statue of Charmayne James and her horse, Scamper: [3] we were discussing the possibility of using this image in Charmayne's article as a fair use image - special case. In Charmayne's case, we thought it might pass fair use even though she is still alive, as the horse is deceased and it shows her at the peak of her career.

But more importantly, we thought it might fly as a special exception for a fair use image given that it conveys a historic moment - her bridleless win. Does it qualify as replicating a unique moment? I am pinging Wehwalt as you suggested, as he is an expert of these type of cases. Thnaks! dawnleelynn^(talk) 20:11, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

You'd have better luck finding an actual image of her that was published in a few other articles. WPRA or NFR images are more apt to pass fair use. The problem with statues/sculptures/art is that it requires permission from the artist as well as the owner of the statue, and getting a fair use application accepted at WP is worse than a root canal. ^{Atsme📞📧} 20:38, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm dubious. It's not a historic image in so many words but an artist's impression of that historic moment. Assuming it's historic, that is, which I'm far from certain of.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:16, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Wehwalt Fair enough. I appreciate you taking the time to look at it. I'm sure montanabw will chime in when she can. As she stated earlier on in a post, she is terribly busy in real life right now. Thanks again and happy trails! dawnleelynn^(talk) 21:23, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

I know I have seen an actual photo of the bridleless win, I think in 2011 or '12 Barrel Horse News from November or December. For any non-horse stalkers, it was like somebody winning the Indianapolis 500 without an adequate steering wheel. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Nice analogy WAF. And rodeo never seems to be historic to many people outside of its fans (not wanting to make a blanket statement of course). Just like the reviewer of my recently created article on Mossy Oak Mudslinger thought we couldn't possibly have an SNG on bucking bulls when faced with one of the most historic and baddest of them of all time and tagged it for notability. LOL. dawnleelynn^(talk) 22:27, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Montana earthquake

Yes, the 5.8 magnitude earthquake was fairly close to where I live. Yes, I noticed it. Yes, I am fine. Yes, the horses are fine. No, we don't appear to have any significant damage to buildings in the community, but a lot of ketchup fell off the shelves at Wal-Mart and that photo is going viral. Thanks everyone who emailed for your kind expressions of concern. Hugs to all! (Historic note: My mother remembers the 1935 Helena earthquake). Montanabw^(talk) 21:39, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

So glad to know you are safe M! Thanks for letting us know. MarnetteD|Talk 21:42, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

This is The Far Side cartoon that's going around facebook about it: [4] Montanabw^(talk) 21:53, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

The only earthquake I've been in, I never noticed it as I was driving from Montreal to Trois-Rivieres in 1988 I think and I stopped at a gas station and there was no power.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:07, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Happy to know that you are safe. Will publish an article you wrote, translated to German, tomorrow, because it's the birthday of someone mentioned in it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

My social media is lacking as I haven't heard about it until you posted here. Weird. But definitely glad all is well there with you and yours. The cartoon is funny. dawnleelynn^(talk) 22:19, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

FA review

There is a FAC that you might be interested in. Now stay away as you have a penchant for harassment. Where the domestic things are (talk) 14:55, 7 July 2017 (UTC)