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Welcome to Wikipedia, Worldbruce! Thank you for your contributions. I am Sminthopsis84 and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}}
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I see that you haven't done a lot of editing over the years, so a warm welcome seems appropriate at last. It's very gratifying to see you working on the Bangladesh upazila articles, which could use all the help they can get! I look forward to seeing you around. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:03, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
SM Sultan
It was done automatically by the software, rather than being a change that I intentionally applied. Looking over what happened, though, I believe the problem was that you were using the <ref name=german><!-- Gloss by itself --></ref> format in the article body. That doesn't work as intended, unfortunately — a gloss can't be split off from the reference content in that manner so that it's standing alone as the only content nested inside a particular invocation of the ref tags, but rather has to be directly next to the actual content of the reference it's glossing.
So in this particular case, if the gloss is necessary for one particular invocation of the reference but not applicable to others, it might be necessary to create a separate ref=german2 citation for the content that needs to be specifically glossed as "supports solo", citing the specific page number in the source that "supports solo" instead of the entire page range of ref=german, so that the gloss can be left in the references list alongside the content of that particular citation.
Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
SICPA submission
Hi Worldbruce. First let me thank you for taking the time to read and comment on my SICPA article. I am very aware of the conflict of interest issues and extremely keen not to fall foul of the rules. I'd just like to ask two favours from you.
The first is just a bit of clarification. You say that links to organisations that SICPA has a relationship with are not so good but I thought that close connections with organisations like the World Bank and Interpol - given the industry that SICPA is in - would be relevant. The problem is finding independnet references that aren't directly from those organisation's websites. Is it still best to simply remove this?
Secondly, would you be happy to review my next draft? And, if so, what is the best process to go about this?
Again, many thanks for your help. IainIainplunkett (talk) 09:31, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- @Iainplunkett: Wikipedia doesn't prohibit the use of non-independent sources like the press releases from the World Bank and Interpol, but the bulk of any article has to come from independent sources. To get the draft into article space it must clear the hurdles of notability and neutrality. Press releases don't help because they can't prove notability and don't present an unbiased view. In practice, they can hurt; one reference a reviewer doesn't like can sour their view and result in a declined submission. I would keep such sources only if they support unique information vital to an understanding of the range of the company's operations.
- The best references are books or journal articles written by academics and published by academic presses, for example [1]. Next best are journalistic sources from reputable newspapers or magazines, such as [2]. The latter is not an in-depth source, but contains some choice nuggets, like "The ink for more than 80 percent of the world's currency, including the dollar, comes from Sicpa S.A."
- Take your time improving the draft. When it's as good as you can make it, resubmit it using the blue button in the big pink box on the draft. Odds are another volunteer will review it. They may give you different feedback, which can be frustrating, but they may have different strengths than I do. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Daisygrinders Page
Hi Worldbruce. I hope I am in the right forum to ask you a brief question. You reviewed my article on The Daisygrinders and advised that it did not meet the terms of notoriety. I amended that article and included web and text references as per the Wikipedia guidelines for citing notoriety. I thought that i had resubmitted the article for further consideration, but I am yet to receive any advice about whether it now meets the stringent requirements for inclusion in Wikipedia. Could you possibly spare me a moment to let me know whether I can resubmit my article based on the new information I have provided? Will it meet the criteria or is there something else I am missing to publish my article. Many thanks. Drew Drewzab (talk) 10:31, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Drewzab: I won't review Draft:The Daisygrinders now for a couple reasons. First, there's a six-week backlog of drafts awaiting review at Articles for Creation, and asking at a reviewer's talk page isn't a shortcut around that. The only way to know for sure whether your revisions are sufficient is to resubmit it using the blue button in the big pink box at the top of it, and wait for a reviewer to get to it. Second, when I've declined a draft, I don't review it again in AfC if it's resubmitted. This policy gives authors the benefit of a fresh look by a reviewer who may have different strengths.
- At a glance, I can see that the draft doesn't cite sources that are obviously reliable. Obviously reliable sources would be things like a book from Oxford University Press, or features in The New York Times and Rolling Stone. There are also some red flags. Discogs is user-generated, so it is not a reliable source. Blogs are usually self-published, so are not reliable sources. YouTube is often problematic either because the material does not constitute a reliable source or because it's a copyright violation of a reliable source.
- Reviewers also will be vexed by the draft's formatting problems. They aren't supposed to turn a draft down for that reason alone, but why risk it? Dalton and one other reference are more-or-less correctly formatted within ref tags. One, http://www.stanleyrecords.com.au/adam-young/, is a bare URL in the text. Eight more are partly formatted, and within ref tags, but instead of being placed immediately after the text they support, they're all down at the bottom of the editor. There are also bare Wikipedia URLs scattered throughout the text that need to be turned into internal links. The formatting of sections and of the discography list are incorrect.
- What to do? I've left a belated welcome note on your talk page that contains many links you'll find useful if you want to edit Wikipedia. Some highly relevant to this specific draft are:
- WP:BAND - Study this carefully. If the band meets one of the criterion, then in the first sentence or two of the draft make it crystal clear which one, and support the claim by citing a reliable source. If they meet none of the criteria, there isn't much hope for the draft.
- Help:Referencing for beginners
- Wikipedia:Writing better articles
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style - formatting rules galore
- Wikipedia:Linking - the correct way to do internal links
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section
- WP:Featured articles - Browse Wikipedia's best articles for examples of how to do things, like formatting.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Music - Various WikiProjects may contain additional useful resources.
- Anyone can edit Wikipedia, but it isn't necessarily easy. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:58, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Worldbruce: Many thanks for the advice. Obviously I have a bit more homework to do. I will review your suggestions and then resubmit. Thanks again.
Drewzab (talk) 05:24, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Dead link on the VidAmerica page
Hi. This link on VidAmerica is dead for some reason. Can you re-upload it please? 110.34.81.71 (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
- I can't re-upload it, because I no longer have access to newspaperarchive.com. It may, as the error message says, be a temporary condition. If not, you could get an account with them so that you could clip the article yourself. Or you could do nothing. It's only a convenience link to a resource that is also available on paper. It doesn't matter if the link is dead, there's no requirement that the source be available online. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
- So, can you re-upload it on Scribd.com pr something? 1.227.241.243 (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
- No. As I said, I don't have access to newspaperarchive.com. Even if I did, uploading material copied from it would be a violation of copyright and of their terms of service. If you want access to newspaperarchive.com, get your own access. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- So, can you re-upload it on Scribd.com pr something? 1.227.241.243 (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Dhaka
Hello, again. Thought I'd continue this on your page. After further research, I was able to find some maps showing the defined municipal limits of the north and south Dhaka city corporations:
These probably don't include the recent incorporation of more land and suburbs into the city corporations, but they at least show the thanas and upazilas. I guess my final question is how the Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area (seen in the second map) is defined? Are the building blocks for this upazilas/thanas or something else? If it's upazilas/thans, exactly which ones outside the city corporation are included in this statistical metropolitan area? It seems that the Greater Dhaka page includes this Dhaka Metropolitan Area and then many, many other upazilas/thanas and municipal corporations. I know see that the term "Dhaka City" actually refers to the "Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area" as opposed to the incorporated city, which is how we'd define "city" here in the United States. I'd like us to nail down the area and most recent census population numbers for: Dhaka City Corporation (north and south) and Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area, and then on the city's page to be clear throughout the article what we're talking about when we mention "Dhaka" or "city." I might even look into "Greater Dhaka," but that doesn't seem to be an officially defined area, and we'd have to figure out which upazilas (and which parts when the it's only part of them) are included. For that, we'd have to delve down into a level even below upazilas, which I guess are union parishads.
Thanks! --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:54, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- A noble quest, Criticalthinker. I have more than a gigabyte of 2011 census data from the Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. Give me a few days to poke through their reports and see what answers I can come up with. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:58, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for this. I have one additional question that I thought you might have the answer to. In the city and municipal corporations, are wards a subdivision of the upazilas/thanas whithin those corporations, or of the city corporations, themselves? I guess what I'm wondering is if, as optional divisions, if wards cross upazila/thana borders in cities, or if they are fully contained within their upazilas/thanas? This is just a personal curiosity, not much relating to my interest in redoing the civic administration on Dhaka's page, as I imagine it'd be hard enough to find a total list of thana/upazilas in Dhaka, let alone exactly how many wards it has. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:11, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Wards follow city/municipal corporation boundaries, but don't always align with thana boundaries. I'm not aware of any that cross three thana borders, but plenty include portions of two thanas. In contrast, union parishads, the administrative unit below upazilas, are always wholly contained within their upazila. Dhaka's councillors are elected by ward, so when there are municipal elections someone knows exactly how many wards there are, what their boundaries are, what their populations are, who ran for election, and who won. They don't necessarily share the details though, or keep any information that is publicly accessible up to date. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:10, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. This is what I figured and wanted to be sure of, and it's pretty similar to most other countries. Wards are an electoral division of cities/municipalities as opposed to being in the system of administrative divisions. Since I got that out of the way, this gives me another question: When cities or municipalities want to expand into surrounding areas and they don't annex entire upazilas/thanas, are they required to annex entire union parishads/municipalities/cities (administrative divisions) or can they simply annex specific wards (electoral divisons) of those union parishads/municipalities/cities. To put it more simply, do you know of any cities/municipalities which have jurisdiction over only parts of territory adjacent union parishads or other cities/municipalities? --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Criticalthinker: I've never before had occasion to dig into these questions in depth. What I found upends some of my assumptions. Read on. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. This is what I figured and wanted to be sure of, and it's pretty similar to most other countries. Wards are an electoral division of cities/municipalities as opposed to being in the system of administrative divisions. Since I got that out of the way, this gives me another question: When cities or municipalities want to expand into surrounding areas and they don't annex entire upazilas/thanas, are they required to annex entire union parishads/municipalities/cities (administrative divisions) or can they simply annex specific wards (electoral divisons) of those union parishads/municipalities/cities. To put it more simply, do you know of any cities/municipalities which have jurisdiction over only parts of territory adjacent union parishads or other cities/municipalities? --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Wards follow city/municipal corporation boundaries, but don't always align with thana boundaries. I'm not aware of any that cross three thana borders, but plenty include portions of two thanas. In contrast, union parishads, the administrative unit below upazilas, are always wholly contained within their upazila. Dhaka's councillors are elected by ward, so when there are municipal elections someone knows exactly how many wards there are, what their boundaries are, what their populations are, who ran for election, and who won. They don't necessarily share the details though, or keep any information that is publicly accessible up to date. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:10, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for this. I have one additional question that I thought you might have the answer to. In the city and municipal corporations, are wards a subdivision of the upazilas/thanas whithin those corporations, or of the city corporations, themselves? I guess what I'm wondering is if, as optional divisions, if wards cross upazila/thana borders in cities, or if they are fully contained within their upazilas/thanas? This is just a personal curiosity, not much relating to my interest in redoing the civic administration on Dhaka's page, as I imagine it'd be hard enough to find a total list of thana/upazilas in Dhaka, let alone exactly how many wards it has. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:11, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
2011 Census
The key source for Dhaka census data is: "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. It gives the following historical background:
The Dhaka Municipality was established in 1864 ... The municipal committee was reconstituted as paurashava in 1972 ... In 1983 it was replaced as Dhaka Municipal Corporation and finally in 1991 it got the status of a city corporation.[1]
When the report refers to the city (usually as Dhaka City, but also Dhaka Metropotitan [sic] City or Dhaka Metropolitan Area) it means an area larger than that covered by Dhaka City Corporation (DCC). A third entity, Dhaka Mega City, larger than Dhaka City, is mentioned briefly.
Dhaka City
The report describes the city as follows:
[The city] consists of 42 thanas including Dhaka City Corporation with 92 wards, 2 restricted areas, and 837 mahallas and its adjoining 17 unions as other urban area. The thanas are Adabar, Badda, Bangshal, Bimanbandar, Cantonment, Chakbazar, Darusalam, Demra, Dakshin Khan, Dhanmondi, Gendaria, Ghulshan, Hazaribagh, Jatrabari, Kadamtali, Kafrul, Kalabagan, Kamrangir Char, Khilgaon, Khilkhet, Kotwali, Lalbagh, Mirpur, Mohammadpur, Motijheel, Newmarket, Palton, Pallabi, Ramna, Rampura, Sabujbagh, Shah Ali, Shahbagh, Sher-e-Bangla Nagar, Shyampur, Sutrapur, Tejgaon, Tejgaon Industrial area, Tongi, Uttara, Uttar Khan and Wari.[1]
Their phrasing is difficult to parse without studying their tables, and I hope you can come up with a clearer explanation. Breaking it down, Dhaka City consists of the 42 listed thanas. Another way to put it is that Dhaka City consists of DCC plus 2 restricted areas and 17 union parishads. Those 17 unions are parts of 12 of the thanas, specifically the portions of those thanas that extend outside DCC. (Four of those unions are split among thanas, something I didn't know could happen).
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Badda | Beraid | Bhatara | Dakshingaon | Dakshinkhan | Demra | Dhania | Dumni | Harirampur | Manda | Matuail | Nasirabad | Saralia | Satarkul | Shyampur | Sultanganj | Uttar Khan | ||
Thana | Badda | • | • | • | • | |||||||||||||
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Dakshinkhan | part | |||||||||||||||||
Demra | • | part | • | |||||||||||||||
Jatrabari | part | part | ||||||||||||||||
Kadamtali | part | part | • | |||||||||||||||
Kamrangirchar | • | |||||||||||||||||
Khilgaon | part | • | ||||||||||||||||
Khilkhet | part | • | ||||||||||||||||
Sabujbag | part | • | ||||||||||||||||
Turag | • | |||||||||||||||||
Uttarkhan | • |
The city is divided into 92 wards, but one doesn't need to know that to understand the census area and population. The number of mahallas is also a red herring.
According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, Dhaka City had an area of 315.98 sq km, and a population of 8,906,039.[2] According to the 2001 census, it had an area of 1371 sq km, and a population of 9,672,763.[3] There is a discussion, that I will leave to you to read, of how the census bureau abandoned the concept of Statistical Metropolitan Areas (SMAs) after the 2001 census and how that makes comparisons between the censuses difficult.[4]
DCC
Year | Pop. (000) | ±% |
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1981 | 2,476 | — |
1991 | 3,613 | +45.9% |
2001 | 5,327 | +47.4% |
2011 | 6,970 | +30.8% |
2011 population excludes the restricted areas of Biman Bandar and Cantonment Source: Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics[5] |
According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, DCC had an area of 126.34 sq km, and a population of 6,970,105.[2] The 2011 census excluded from DCC the two restricted areas, Biman Bandar and Cantonment, which previously had been included in the DCC line item. I believe this accounts for the decrease in the area of DCC from 153.84 sq km in 2001. The exclusion of the restricted areas also decreased population somewhat, but that was more than offset by population growth.
Dhaka Mega City
The report doesn't say much about Dhaka Mega City, but it is evident that they define it as Dhaka City plus five paruashavas (municipal corporations), and six upazilas. The paruashavas are: Gazipur, Tongi, Savar, Narayanganj, and Kadam Rasul. The upazilas are: Keraniganj, Bandar, Narayanganj Sadar, Gazipur Sadar, and Savar Upazila. According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, Dhaka Mega City had a population of 14,171,567.[6]
Subsequent events
After the 2011 census, DCC was split into DNCC and DSCC.
In May 2016, DNCC was expanded from 82.63 sq km to 114.58 square kilometres (44.24 sq mi), and DSCC was expanded from 45 sq km to 64.17 square kilometres (24.78 sq mi).[7][8]
Basic arithmetic is not original research, so we should be able to compute the population, as of 2011, of the area now within the bounds of DNCC and DSCC. This post is getting long, so I'll leave that for another day. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 55. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
- ^ a b "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 58. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
- ^ "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 24. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
- ^ "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 9. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
- ^ "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 102. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
- ^ "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 11. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
- ^ Partha Pratim Bhattacharjee; Mahbubur Rahman Khan (7 May 2016). "Govt to double size of Dhaka city area". The Daily Star.
- ^ "Dhaka City expands by more than double after inclusion of 16 union councils". bdnews24.com. 9 May 2016.
Thanks. This is a lot to take in but it answer basically all of my questions. To sum everything up:
- Like in most places I've studied, municipal and administrative divisions are two different layers. As an example, we've learned that city/municipal/union councils can exist in multiple thanas/upazilas. These municipalities are overlaid atop the administrative divisions.
- Apparently, when Dhaka's two city corporations annex land from surrounding municipalities, they annex entire council areas and not just parts of the council areas.
- Dhaka City Corporation (now split between DNCC and DSCC) is what we'd call a "city proper" and this is what the page should be centered around as it relates to the population and area listed in the infobox and throughout. So, at the most recent census (2011) we had a city proper with a population of 6,970,105 at 127.63 sq km in size. While we won't have an official population until the next census (though, there are certainly estimates), what we do know is that the city proper with the addition of 16 union councils has now added an additional 178.75 sq km to the existing 127.63 square miles for a total area of 306.38 sq km.
- Dhaka "City" is a statistical area/definition that adds in close-by suburbs. To better differentiate it from the city proper, I'd most likely almost always refer to it by it's official name to avoid confusion: Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area. What I'm far less clear of is the whole 42 thanas thing, so it'd need to be specified which of these thanas are totally within the two city corporations, which whole thanas exist outside of the two city corporations, and then finally which parts (union councils) of the remaining thanas are included. I'm not sure if the 42 number is just the thanas in the city corporations or if the 42 number is whole thanas and parts of others.
Anyway, thanks, again. If you ever need me for any advice if you ever try to clarify the page, always feel free to ask. --Criticalthinker (talk) 12:37, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, the more I think about this the more I want a list so we know which complete thanas/upazilas and which parts of others (the unions) make up the two municipal corporations. I want to be able to clearly define this. Also, do you happen to know the translation of the texts on this map in the map's key? Because that might help with this. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:10, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry to bug you Worldbruce, but were you ever able to compile a list of all of the thanas completely under the jurisdiction of the two Dhaka city corporations, and then those union councils under the city coporations in the adjacent thanas/upazilas?
- Hello? --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:22, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Criticalthinker. Your question is not forgotten. I was on the road, and consequently not editing, for a couple months earlier this year, and have never caught up from that. As near as I recall, all the necessary information is in the above references, it's just a matter of digging it out. Anyone can do that, you don't have to wait for me. I don't think the map on the Dhaka District page contains enough detail to be useful for your purpose. The legend reads, from top to bottom: District borders, Thana, Union, Thana headquarters, and District headquarters. What it calls thanas have, since 1984, been called upazilas, it doesn't show any subdivisions within the city, and it doesn't show all the unions. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:12, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- I only ask you, because I have tried researching this myself. You've layed out many of the problems I find: the maps don't show the thana/upazilas, or the ones that do don't show the unions. It becomes even more difficult given that I don't speak or read the language. Curiously, there seems to be many maps showing the wards, but those aren't administrative divisions of the state. We've nailed down that the two municipal corporations includes both thanas in their entirety (though, we still don't have a comprehensive list of even these), but also that they include only parts of thanas (unions), too, but nailing down which of those unions belong to the two city corporations has proven very difficult. --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:44, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Criticalthinker. Your question is not forgotten. I was on the road, and consequently not editing, for a couple months earlier this year, and have never caught up from that. As near as I recall, all the necessary information is in the above references, it's just a matter of digging it out. Anyone can do that, you don't have to wait for me. I don't think the map on the Dhaka District page contains enough detail to be useful for your purpose. The legend reads, from top to bottom: District borders, Thana, Union, Thana headquarters, and District headquarters. What it calls thanas have, since 1984, been called upazilas, it doesn't show any subdivisions within the city, and it doesn't show all the unions. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:12, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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Please let me know below if you have any general feedback about our recommendations. Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 05:19, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Worldbruce, Just wonder if you had any chance to look at the recommendations I sent? Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 22:44, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Worldbruce, I update the recommendation list sent to you earlier. I fixed some bugs in the previous version (as you might have seen that some editors on the previous list were not quite active). Very sorry about it, but now, everything should be good! Please take a look, and let me know what you think! Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 16:55, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Worldbruce, please take a look at those recommendations if you have a chance, and let me know what do you think. Thank you! I would also help invite some new members, but they are not the ones on this list. Bobo.03 (talk) 20:16, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Recommending new editors to WikiProject Bangladesh
Hi Worldbruce,
I am continuing to send you recommendations for WikiProject Bangladesh. Please take a look when you get a chance. Thank you!
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Khadijashafiq (talk · contribs) | Khadijashafiq's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Arts and Society, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! | 2018-1-4 | 25 | Newcomer: made less than 100 edits. | invite | survey |
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Bobo.03 (talk) 04:53, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
Fareast International University
File:FIU Logo.png | Fareast International University |
Hi Worldbruce, I'm from the information & publication wing of Fareast International University, Banani, Dhaka, Bangladesh. Thanks for your appreciation. Our Hon'ble Chairman, BoT, Mr. Sheikh Kabir Hossain do not want to display this information "It was founded by Sheikh Kabir Hossain, relative of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina." It was inserted in Wiki by someone else not from FIU. So that's why it has been removed. Thanks again for your understanding. Mshm24 (talk) 09:37, 23 March 2018 (UTC) |
traded_as issue
Dear Worldbruce, you gave me a task about adding traded_as perameter in infobox. I have looked at this list and added the perameter in some articles from the list. Most of the companies, in that list, are not notable. So, I found only 12 articles in wikipedia. However, let me know about my progress and give me suggestion if I do any wrong. If you have any tast/project/cleaning up work like this, please give me a chance to do the work. I will be very happy to do that.- Rafi (talk) 16:46, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Worldbruce. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, Draft:National City Depot.
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Kaschkasch
Dear Worldbruce,
thank you for your help. Can you tell me how long it will take until my article kaschkasch is online? Or can you tell me what to do to speed it up?
Best, Laura — Preceding unsigned comment added by LauKri (talk • contribs) 14:50, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- @LauKri: Draft:Kaschkasch has been in the pool of drafts to be reviewed for 7 weeks. The current backlog is just over 16 weeks. There is nothing you can do to make that happen sooner. Nor is it certain (or even likely) that the draft will ever be published as an article.
- When it is reviewed, one of three things will happen. It will be accepted (only about 20% of all drafts are), it will be declined but you will be allowed to make improvements and resubmit (this is what happens to most drafts), or it will be rejected and you will not be allowed to resubmit. It the draft is declined and you resubmit it, you will have to wait another 16 weeks for the second review. So you can speed up the total process by making the draft as good as possible now, thereby maximizing its chances of being accepted at the first review.
- External links like this → Blomus, are not allowed in the text, and should be removed. If there is a Wikipedia article about the company, you may use an internal link instead, like this → Habitat. Also note that there is a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Deviating from this style disturbs uniformity among articles and may cause readability or accessibility problems. Pay particular attention to the guidelines for capitalization of trademarks, section headings, list formatting, and the layout order of standard sections. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:21, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello Worldbruce, I changed external links to internal links. Since my first publishing of the article it has been over 8 weeks and still its on draft. Is there nothng I can do? Best, Laura
- @LauKri: Remember to WP:SIGN your posts. There are many things you can do. We have nearly 6 million articles, almost all of which could be improved. Closer to "home", you could make the draft conform to Wikipedia's Manual of Style. But there's nothing you can do to get the draft reviewed earlier. Since the start of this thread, the backlog has grown to 19 weeks. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:31, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
Interesting
I see that Eugene Maynard Freedman has been speedied by the author shortly after I added its controversies section. I'd actually have said this was an illegitimate speedy, but it's a fairly clear warning that readdition would come in a non-balanced state, so I'll leave it be. I'll keep an eye out for its recreation and check it again then. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi! Well, I can't work that one out – I expect your "common source" explanation is the right one. I just didn't feel I could reasonably delete it as a copyvio of a source that's six years more recent. Not that I have much hope that listing it at WP:CP will lead to any clarification either. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:38, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Justlettersandnumbers: How did you arrive at "a source that's six years more recent"? I tried to date the londoni.co page, but it has no obvious date, and wasn't archived until I raised the issue yesterday. There is strong circumstantial evidence, however, that londoni predated the first version of the Wikipedia page (29 March 2013).
- The londoni site says it was launched a year earlier, on 26 March 2012.[3] And of the sources the londoni page cites, the most recent that can be dated is from 30 July 2012, all the others being 2011 or earlier.[4] The source londoni cites for their Nurul Absar Mohammad Jahangir section, an article in The Independent (Bangladesh), is unfortunately permanently dead. The URL gives no clue to its date, but given the other sources it's hard to believe that it would be after 29 March 2013. Alas, The Independent (Bangladesh) is not indexed online, and is extremely scarce in print or on microfilm, so finding the original article without a date is impractical.
- The hypothesis that the copying went the other way - that Wikipedia had the text first and it ended up on londoni - strains credulity. I specialize in Bangladesh-related articles on Wikipedia, so I frequently encounter The Independent (Bangladesh), and have never caught them copying from Wikipedia. In other cases where londoni cites a source, such as The Daily Star above, it copies it almost word-for-word. It would be strange if londoni cited The Independent but copied from Wikipedia. Furthermore, if either The Independent or londoni copied from Wikipedia, they would have had a relatively narrow window in which to do so, since flowery text like "Under the hypnotic call of this leader" and "The fateful day came as a nightmare" (alas all too common in the Bangladeshi press) was stripped out of the Wikipedia article after less than two months, on 20 May 2013.
- In my experience, SPAs on Bangladeshi topics frequently either don't understand copyright or choose to ignore it. The cavalier attitude toward copyright extends beyond text to the photo, which the author claims as their "own work". From its dimensions, the photo drop background, and the Defence Service rubber stamp, it appears to be a passport-size photograph from an identity document. In 1960s East Pakistan, such a photograph would have been taken by a professional photographer, perhaps a military one. The idea that editor Sangita2008 was the photographer and ended up with the stamped photograph isn't plausible. Far more likely is that they don't hold the copyright, but inherited the photo as a family member, and wish to memorialise him. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:11, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- Worldbruce, indeed I should have written above "... a source archived only six years later". I agree with every word you say, particularly the "strains credulity" bit. Even so, I'm uncomfortable with the idea of speedily deleting a page as copyvio unless the evidence is solid and verifiable – G12 is specifically reserved for "unambiguous" cases. Unless someone comes forward with a rewrite, the page will probably disappear in a week or so. I've marked the file on Commons as "no permission", so that will probably fade away too. Thank you for all you do! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:37, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Draft:Ian Foote
I added the videos from the French Wikipedia page, why you delete it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.218.229.158 (talk) 15:09, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- The videos are under copyright by TF1. They have been uploaded to Dailymotion in violation of that copyright. As explained at WP:VIDEOLINK, en.wikipedia.org may not link to them. They are, in any case, primary sources, so they do nothing to establish the notability of the topic, one of the main aspects of the discussion about deleting the draft.
- Some language versions of Wikipedia have adopted policies regarding copyright that are more stringent than US law, but generally, other language versions of Wikipedia are subject to US copyright law because their content is hosted on servers in the US. If any non-English language versions of the article link to the videos, those links almost certainly should be removed.
- For that matter, if any non-English language versions of the article exist, they probably should be deleted. That's less clear cut than copyright, since each language version operates according to its own policies and guidelines, set by the community of editors who contribute there. So an article may satisfy the rules for the French Wikipedia but not the English one, or vice versa. But it's more likely that a non-English version only exists because no one has gotten around to applying the local policies and guidelines to it yet. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:01, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
If the vidéos are in copyright, how can I source the Bulgaria - France catégory ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.219.181.200 (talk) 10:26, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- Books are a good source for historical events. Magazines and newspapers can also be useful, but instead of primary sources like match reports, use secondary sources that reflect on and analyse past events. Past events might be discussed this way at the end of a season or when two teams met next. The draft has been deleted and salted to prevent recreation, so let it go and edit a different topic. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:59, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Draft:STEMUp Educational Foundation
Hi Worldbruce, I edited the draft as per your guidance. Appreciate your support for new editors.
Pending AfC submissions
The drafts that I've submitted Draft:Michael de Courcy (artist), Draft:Susan Aaron-Taylor, and Draft:Walthamstow International Film Festival appear to be stuck again on the # of days pending. Does this pending date affect in any way when the might be looked at by a potential reviewer. If not I will stop being concerned about it. They update when you took a look at them but then seem to be stuck on that day (I think). Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) 17:32, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- @LorriBrown: I've left a note for the bot operator. The age of all drafts is "stuck" at the moment. When the problem is fixed they'll all jump to their correct ages. It shouldn't affect the timing of any draft's review, which I'm afraid you can't assume will happen in less than about 4 months. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:29, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Draft:Ian Foote
Can you remove the protection of Ian Foote page ? I am able to put a table about his matches who refereed Ian Foote during his career but you have put the protection when I am able to do this. I have references and books.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12071216.ian-foote/
https://worldreferee.com/referee/ian_foote/
- No, I can't. If I could, I wouldn't. You are beating a dead horse; drop the stick. Editors who will not accept consensus may be blocked from editing for tendentious editing. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:17, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Draft: Nin Brudermann
Hello, thank you for your edits on the draft page for Nin Brudermann. In your opinion is the article ready to be sent into the article space? You are the second person to make edits through the review process. Thank you! Emily Glascott (talk) 19:34, 4 August 2019 (UTC)Emily Glascott
- @Emily Glascott: I didn't formulate an opinion on the draft. About 90 drafts have been awaiting review longer than this one, so I'm afraid it's likely to be at least another month before someone reviews it. You can monitor its status by cheeking how close to the top of this page it is. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Waston-Marlow Fluid Technology Group page
Hi - thank you for your comments re:Draft Watson-Marlow Fluid Technology Group page
I would argue that the decision to not even offer an opportunity to revisit the page is very harsh. Watson-Marlow is cited across many pages across Wikipedia. It is a company that turns over nearly a quarter of a billion in sales worldwide. It is a significant, global player in pumping technology and fluid management engineering
Examples where Watson-Marlow are cited as manufactures/ a world leader:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peristaltic_pump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinusoidal_pump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metering_pump
This is an example of competitor who have been in operation for less time and is not a world-leader in a single technology like Watson-Marlow, its sales are based on a diverse pump range.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prominent_(Unternehmen)
An example of a large pump group but whose references are their own website and a very weak article that mentions them indirectly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grundfos References[edit source] ^ "Our company". Grundfos.com. Retrieved 2018-02-23. ^ http://www.gea.com/global/en/news/corporate-news/2015/gea-acquirers-leading-supplier-of-hygienic-pumps.jsp
The decision to not allow for an edit seems to comes with the oversight of these pages and I would ask that it is reconsidered so I am able to shape content with reliable sources as the subject is without doubt notable when considered in relation to the above.
- Replied at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#12:18:12, 2 August 2019 review of submission by Benjamindavidharvey. Keep discussions in one place, don't fragment them. See Help:TALK. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:19, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
CDEK Wiki article
Dear Worldbruce! I represent the international development department in logistics company CDEK. We are now expanding our business worldwide and my colleague began to translate our article in Wikipedia from Russian into English. But for some reason the English version was declined for publishment. As for the article, its contains useful information for those, who are interested in develoment of the Russian international logistics segment, and also in the history of our company, CDEK, which is one of the major express-courier delivery companies in Russia. Besides, our article in Russian and Arabic are already available in Wikipedia. So if you could provide us additional information or maybe help us with publishment of our article in Wikipedia, we would be very grateful.
Yours sincerely, CDEK international development team — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergeiamarkov (talk • contribs) 10:14, 12 August 2019 (UTC) Sergeiamarkov (talk) 10:24, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
CDEK Wiki article
Dear Worldbruce!
Concerning your letter - I do not seek any financial compensation for my edits and so on.
Actually, what matters to me the most, is the awareness of my company, CDEK. Next february we are celebrating our 20th anniversary, we are well-known all accross Russia and the CIS countries, and all I want is to present the information about the achievements of the company, its history, so that people who speak English get to know about the development of logistics business in Russia! And I repeat - I do NOT seek any interest from publishing information about CDEK! I'm a newbie in Wikipedia and people publishing in Russian and Arabic segments of Wiki helped me correct the articles so that they could be published. So what I'm trying to find here is some help and advice.
Looking forward for further contact. Sergeiamarkov (talk) 08:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Hlw
Hlw, @Worldbruce: I noticed more than 3-4 months that Peya Bipasha most of the sections is unsourced except Television (some have links). And in tv Commercial section there have one personal blog/site link which is misinterpreted. So I want to remove all unsourced conten from her page. I didn’t remove,because it will say later as vandalism (if I have good faith to remove). so I think let first tell any admin. I amzed that when I added any content and didn’t add link then my edit was reverted as unsourced. I want to remove this or will you remove those unsourced contents please.And bd admin didn’t look at this contents but they all interested to remove if one sentence is unsourced. -Rasi56 (talk) 15:32, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Rasi56: I suggest you start with the prose in the body of the article, in other words with the "Early life and study" and "Career" sections.
- Instead of simply removing unsourced material, first try to find a source for it and add inline citations. Except for the blog cited in the "TV commercials" section, all the sources already cited by the article are reliable. Other reliable sources may exist.
- After finding sources for as much as you can, decide whether remaining unsourced content is contentious material or not. If the material is innocuous, such as where she went to high school or what she performed in, add a {{citation needed}} template. If the unsourced material is likely to be challenged, such as age, height, family, or why something happened, remove it. If it is not neutral, which may be signalled by adjectives like leading, strong, talented, terrific, top, wonderful, and other peacock words, remove it.
- Different considerations apply to the works sections (Television, Short films, Music videos, and TV commercials), to the infobox, and to the lead. I can give you advice for those sections, but wait a few days after changing the body to see if anyone objects to your modifications. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:26, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
@Worldbruce: what will start? I didn’t understand your first line. It's unsourced (above mention sections) from the beginning of the article, which I found! when I saw the edit history. And there have no news for his unsourced section, so if you do not remove now it will be unsourced in future. And please see tv commercial link it’s just misinterpreted, there have no news about him.and his television work have links but tv commercial its not verified. it should be also to remove. I think from the top of the article "peya came it from media limelight" to before the television it should be remove, then music video,tv commercial also unsourced. Please remove it,if needed then anyone can add info with news link later.don't need any unsourced and self writing things. Waiting means it will stay so many years. And about {{citation needed}}, there have thousands of articles Where have unsourced content just because of this tag.when admin saw this tag they don't remove content just hope for someone will add citatio. This tag is best if very few sentences are unsourced. Please take an action or give me permission to remove.Doesn't need to keep unsourced content and passages , unsourced info misleading the readers. It is not good to keep unsourced content per wiki guidelines, you know better than me. -Rasi56 (talk) 18:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Rasi56: Deleting unsourced statements that are not newly-added without first trying to find a source for them is lazy and unhelpful. The majority of such statements are true. The absence of a citation does not mean that a source does not exist for them. When faced with unreferenced information, an editor should make an effort to find sources before deleting material. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
বাংলা উইকিতে অবদান রাখান অনুরোধ
শুভেচ্ছা নিন। যদি পারেন বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ায় যে কোন বিষয়ে অবদান রেখে বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়াকে সাহায্য করুন। ইংরেজি উইকিতে তুলনায় বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়া অনেক অনেক পিছনে পড়ে আছে (৫৯ লক্ষ বনাম মাত্র ৭২ হাজার নিবন্ধ বাংলা উইকিতে) । আমাদের মাতৃভাষার উইকিকে এগিয়ে নিতে সাহায্য করুন। ----Muhammad Nabil (☎talk) 18:23, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi You mentioned me in a revert and mentioned if the sub category is present, parent category need not be there but i guess when you reverted my edits you did the opposite ! Now we have both the parent and child category in the article The page that i am mentioning is Sher Shah Suri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kami2018 (talk • contribs) 15:57, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Draft deletion
Can you remove this draft please ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Canal%2B_(Poland)
I already modified the NC+ Wikipedia page.
I've created this draft but I don't need it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.92.44.235 (talk) 18:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Redirect
- @Worldbruce: I understand what you said. From the view of yours when the city information grows much larger than district, and starts to overwhelm the district information, then it can be spun off into its own article. But how? The city page is already redirected to district page. Then if I want to create a city page i have to redirect the district page and then undoing this redirect so that i can get the city page to write it's article. Then you will say redirecting and then undoing that redirect is not acceptable. Then how city article can be created?
Please answer.Great Hero32 (talk) 06:09, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Weekly Television Digest
Thanks again for the documents! As for the remaining articles: to me the most important one is
https://books.google.de/books?hl=de&id=FXQfAQAAIAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22channel+f%22
because there is no other source that states Milton Berle was doing promotion stuff for Fairchild. Any help is highly appreciated, Schnurrikowski (talk) 09:04, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
All I can say is WOW! Many thanks, Schnurrikowski (talk) 08:29, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Please
Please update national Parliament of Bangladesh articles, election 2018
Election information source : http://www.ecs.gov.bd/bec/public/files/1/11th%20nation_result_1_100.xlsx
37.111.232.170 (talk) 18:00, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello
Your comment on my draft:Plastiq was really helpful Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources helped me find better sources, I've cleaned up the article and I think is better than it was. Would you review it? please. JamesRodir (talk) 15:27, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- No. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:31, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, have a nice day JamesRodir (talk) 15:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
A cup of coffee for you!
Thank you for your help with formatting my article about Linda Williamson (Headlee)! You guessed right! Ellencooper (talk) 17:59, 23 September 2019 (UTC) |
Talk:2019 Test Valley District Council election: Revision history
Should Talk:2019 Test Valley District Council election be class=start or class=draft?--21:08, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
EvoShare page
Hi @Worldbruce:, thank you for adding tags to Draft:EvoShare linking it to various projects. Could you possibly review it for approval? --TDuVal (talk) 19:55, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hello again, @Worldbruce:. I haven't heard back from you yet and wanted to see if there was any chance you could review our article. I understand you are probably busy. please let me know if there's a more suitable avenue to pursue for requesting review. Thanks!
TDuVal (talk) 21:19, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 35, July – August 2019
Books & Bytes
Issue 35, July – August 2019
- Wikimania
- We're building something great, but..
- Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
- A Wikibrarian's story
- Bytes in brief
On behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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This is for your hard works in reviewing submissions in Articles for creation. I appreciate your efforts. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 05:17, 7 October 2019 (UTC) |
Need to
access this NYBooks review for Yellapragada Sudershan Rao. Posting here, since you seem to be the only one at RX, with access to NYBooks archives. Any help will be appreciated :-) ∯WBGconverse 06:05, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Winged Blades of Godric: I can probably get that for you, but it will be between 10 days and a month before I visit a library that provides it. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:42, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Winged Blades of Godric: I will not be able to supply this after all. It turns out that on 1 November I lost my free access to the library where I was planning to get it. So you'll be better off requesting it at WP:RX. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:01, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
AY-3-8500
I am currently working on an article about the 6-in-1 video game chip AY-3-8500 by General Instrument from the 70s. After extensive research it turned out that there still are some gaps: 1) How many chips were produced and 2) When was end of production. I am stuck. The main source left to be checked is the journal Weekly Television Digest. You helped me out with that magazine when I was looking for info about Fairchild's Channel F video game console some time ago. So, I would like to ask, if you can help me again? Unfortunately there are no entries for the the term 'AY-3-8500' but for 'General Instrument' and their 'chip' (16 entries for 1975 https://books.google.de/books?hl=de&id=7B8qAQAAIAAJ&dq=general+instrument+television+digest+1976&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=general+instrument ; 13 entries for 1976, pls. cf. https://books.google.de/books?hl=de&id=gSEqAQAAIAAJ&dq=general+instrument+television+digest+1976&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=general+instrument). So, everything has to be be checked manually (1975 - 1982/3). I know this is a difficult task, but I don't know who I should ask as Weekly Television Digest is not widespread where I live (Germany). Please let me know, Schnurrikowski (talk) 12:26, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Untitled post
Hi Worldbruce. Thank you for the educational information on what qualifies as an official webpage. I was wondering why people such as the musician Prince still have official web pages linked to their accounts when he is no longer with us. If it is because the owners of his licensing run it and that qualifies then my question is why would Steve Kaufman's official website not qualify when the owners of his rights and licensing run that current webpage for him after his death? Thank you so much for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrTazz (talk • contribs) 04:02, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- @DrTazz: Thank you for your question, which has been moved to the bottom of the page. New talk page topics should always be added to the bottom. In the future you can use the "New section" link in the top right to place discussions correctly. For more details see the talk page guidelines. Also, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:
- Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or
- With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window.
- This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.
- Fuzzik15 requested on 27 May 2017 that an official website be added to Prince (musician). Their request was correctly rejected. An IP editor added one on 10 November 2017. It appears that no one noticed until you mentioned it. The website has been removed from his biography. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:41, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
What do you think?
Do you think the two recent votes on the A. Sims AFD are socks or meatpuppets? I'm wondering if it is worth an SPI.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:03, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- FYI, they were socks, as is Dr Tazz in the above thread. Blocked quickly by ST47.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- @ThatMontrealIP: Thanks, I'm not surprised. DrTazz's limited contributions also included edits to another artist represented by American Pop Art, Inc. (Steve Kaufman), so it may have been undeclared paid editing as well. So tiresome. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:10, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- FYI, they were socks, as is Dr Tazz in the above thread. Blocked quickly by ST47.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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Books & Bytes – Issue 36
Books & Bytes
Issue 36, September – October 2019
- #1Lib1Ref January 2020
- #1Lib1Ref 2019 stories and learnings
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Thank you for the help and suggestions on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Isaac_Adeola_Odeyemi
have added more citations and revised sources. Thanks for your input, really appreciate the feedback. CraigMc1979 (talk) 07:30, 28 November 2019 (UTC) |